Why is Africa and the Middle East so poor?

[Monoculturalist]

Why is Africa and the Middle East so poor?

Why did they not develop industries and factories?

I hear that Colonialism may be big factor had under Colonialism is the direct occupation and control of a region to extract resources and undermine its stability and growth.

Both regions have extremely long histories of this practice fracturing, breaking, and dismantling any mobility and upward growth. And have long history of Colonialism.

Colonialism certainly had negative effects in terms of resource extraction and remnants of that persist, however....

Colonialism had the effect of advancing a lot of cultures in the same way that Roman conquest did for Europe. Like it or not, a lot of civilization and technological advancement is based on conquest and colonialism.

For some strange reason, Westerners often think that European colonialism is somehow uniquely evil. It really isn't. It was simply one of the most widespread and successful forms of conquest. A logical assessment of history's various conquests would tend to paint a much dimmer view of the Mongols, since they really didn't offer much to their conquered in terms of advancement.

If Europe had never conquered parts of Africa, much of that continent would have advanced much slower than it has so far. Similar things could be said for the Roman conquests, European colonialism in the Americas, and even the Muslim conquests in parts of Africa and Asia.

The root of why Africa has advanced slower than a lot of the rest of the world would seem to be a combination of genetics, culture, and natural environment. As Charles Murray explained a few decades ago, IQs do tend to be lower in much of sub-Saharan Africa. This is probably related to nutrition as well, since intelligence and brain development are highly affected by nutrient uptake (particularly protein) and caloric consumption. If a child suffers from hunger in the formative years, it can have lifelong consequences for IQ.

Culture plays a part in mate selection. A culture that emphasizes education and intelligence in a mate will produce more intelligent offspring in general. A culture that prioritizes other things won't produce as much of that.

Finally, Africans in many areas face a lot of biological threats that aren't as common in other parts of the world. There are an exceptionally high amount of parasites and vermin in certain parts of Africa that can stifle societal development. While the climate of Africa has historically been more hospitable for humans for a longer period of time, when the Last Glacial Period ended, Europe gradually became a relatively temperate area to live in. The last several millennia of Europe provided a climate that was relatively hospitable to humans and had fewer biological threats than Africa.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Colonialism certainly had negative effects in terms of resource extraction and remnants of that persist, however....

Colonialism had the effect of advancing a lot of cultures in the same way that Roman conquest did for Europe. Like it or not, a lot of civilization and technological advancement is based on conquest and colonialism.

For some strange reason, Westerners often think that European colonialism is somehow uniquely evil. It really isn't. It was simply one of the most widespread and successful forms of conquest. A logical assessment of history's various conquests would tend to paint a much dimmer view of the Mongols, since they really didn't offer much to their conquered in terms of advancement.

If Europe had never conquered parts of Africa, much of that continent would have advanced much slower than it has so far. Similar things could be said for the Roman conquests, European colonialism in the Americas, and even the Muslim conquests in parts of Africa and Asia.

The root of why Africa has advanced slower than a lot of the rest of the world would seem to be a combination of genetics, culture, and natural environment. As Charles Murray explained a few decades ago, IQs do tend to be lower in much of sub-Saharan Africa. This is probably related to nutrition as well, since intelligence and brain development are highly affected by nutrient uptake (particularly protein) and caloric consumption. If a child suffers from hunger in the formative years, it can have lifelong consequences for IQ.

Culture plays a part in mate selection. A culture that emphasizes education and intelligence in a mate will produce more intelligent offspring in general. A culture that prioritizes other things won't produce as much of that.

Finally, Africans in many areas face a lot of biological threats that aren't as common in other parts of the world. There are an exceptionally high amount of parasites and vermin in certain parts of Africa that can stifle societal development. While the climate of Africa has historically been more hospitable for humans for a longer period of time, when the Last Glacial Period ended, Europe gradually became a relatively temperate area to live in. The last several millennia of Europe provided a climate that was relatively hospitable to humans and had fewer biological threats than Africa.

I once read a great study on why Africa lagged behind all of the other parts of the world in development of civilization throughout history. They had no horses! Africa had zebras but they cannot be domesticated.

The same could be said of the aboriginal tribes in Australia and the Native Americans before the Europeans brought in horses.

 

[Roudy]

Why is Africa and the Middle East so poor?

Why did they not develop industries and factories?

I hear that Colonialism may be big factor had under Colonialism is the direct occupation and control of a region to extract resources and undermine its stability and growth.

Both regions have extremely long histories of this practice fracturing, breaking, and dismantling any mobility and upward growth. And have long history of Colonialism.

Middle East isn’t poor.

 

[drudge X]

IQ is the leading cause. We can say because of nutrition and environment as factors but realistically, as we have been witnessing since Apartheid ended, blacks are regressing and turning S. Africa into a Third World country. Rhodesia was another example. Whites turned two empty countries without mechanical devices or complex structures into developed nations. What did blacks do when they had control? Tear everything down. Look at the Japanese. After interacting with the outside world, they send their people oversea to learn. When they returned to Japan, they made a better version. The Japanese automobile industry speaks volume. Nutrition and environment are only used to lessen the blow from blaming the problem on IQ but realistically, the culprit is IQ. We need to stop pretending that every living man, woman, and child are born with equal IQ. There is no scientific proof of this claim by leftists whatsoever. We many see some very smart blacks but they are rare. It's the same as saying there are 6'10" tall women. Yes there are but they are rare. Saying that everyone has equal IQ, then why the need for DEI. That assertion only harms those who are falling behind rather than doing them a favor. Lower performance people may feel elated hearing that their IQ is equally as good as Einstein's IQ but reality doesn't discriminate nor give a damn about feelings.

 

[drudge X]

Middle East isn’t poor.

Middle East would be poor without oil.

 

[Monoculturalist]

Middle East isn’t poor.

Parts of it are, but yes, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE, and a few others definitely aren't.

 

[Monoculturalist]

IQ is the leading cause. We can say because of nutrition and environment as factors but realistically, as we have been witnessing since Apartheid ended, blacks are regressing and turning S. Africa into a Third World country. Rhodesia was another example. Whites turned two empty countries without mechanical devices or complex structures into developed nations. What did blacks do when they had control? Tear everything down. Look at the Japanese. After interacting with the outside world, they send their people oversea to learn. When they returned to Japan, they made a better version. The Japanese automobile industry speaks volume. Nutrition and environment are only used to lessen the blow from blaming the problem on IQ but realistically, the culprit is IQ. We need to stop pretending that every living man, woman, and child are born with equal IQ. There is no scientific proof of this claim by leftists whatsoever. We many see some very smart blacks but they are rare. It's the same as saying there are 6'10" tall women. Yes there are but they are rare. Saying that everyone has equal IQ, then why the need for DEI. That assertion only harms those who are falling behind rather than doing them a favor. Lower performance people may feel elated hearing that their IQ is equally as good as Einstein's IQ but reality doesn't discriminate nor give a damn about feelings.

Agreed for the most part, although I would make a distinction between the places you mentioned and other areas of sub-Saharan Africa. For example, Ghana is doing relatively well. Since Africa has a wide range of cultures, there are cases where nations are advancing. Not surprisingly, these tend to be the nations that embraced European influence rather than rejecting it. Ghana is very British in certain respects.

 

[drudge X]

Agreed for the most part, although I would make a distinction between the places you mentioned and other areas of sub-Saharan Africa. For example, Ghana is doing relatively well. Since Africa has a wide range of cultures, there are cases where nations are advancing. Not surprisingly, these tend to be the nations that embraced European influence rather than rejecting it. Ghana is very British in certain respects.

I agree. Nations that embraced European culture after colonialism tends to do well or at least progressing. Although not a country, Hong Kong and Macau are doing extremely well. Singapore today is a world class country. As for India, Laos, and Cambodia, I believe IQ is a factor albeit lesser than in Africa. Vietnam was crap after the war but the country has made immense progress.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Why is Africa and the Middle East so poor?

Why did they not develop industries and factories?

I hear that Colonialism may be big factor had under Colonialism is the direct occupation and control of a region to extract resources and undermine its stability and growth.

Both regions have extremely long histories of this practice fracturing, breaking, and dismantling any mobility and upward growth. And have long history of Colonialism.

The biggest thing is food. If you have more than enough food, you can have people doing other things.

In Africa a lot of people are struggling with the poor soil to grow much. In the Middle East a lot of it is just desert.

 

[Roudy]

Parts of it are, but yes, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE, and a few others definitely aren't.

With their empty slogans and lies, Democrats want to do to this country what the leaders of those countries have done to theirs.

 

[Monoculturalist]

I agree. Nations that embraced European culture after colonialism tends to do well or at least progressing. Although not a country, Hong Kong and Macau are doing extremely well. Singapore today is a world class country. As for India, Laos, and Cambodia, I believe IQ is a factor albeit lesser than in Africa. Vietnam was crap after the war but the country has made immense progress.

India is a strange case in general. On the one hand, the British greatly advanced their cultures, but on the other hand, they still lag in a lot of areas, particularly hygiene and waste disposal.

 

[Monoculturalist]

With their empty slogans and lies, Democrats want to do to this country what the leaders of those countries have done to theirs.

Honestly, I would argue the Emiratis do a better job of governance than our officials. Granted, it does help when you have a mostly homogeneous culture with a small population and an incredible amount of wealth.

What America could do with those traits would be amazing, but it would require the same strict controls on citizenship, immigration, and culture. The UAE also doesn't have a democratic system.

 

[struth]

Because he was talking about the Persian Gulf you moron!

And you know that cause I asked him

 

[Parker99]

But the US, UK and Europe must have had middle class before they built factories and industrialized.

Where as those countries are really poor so they probably not going to build factories because people are way too poor to buy any thing. So they can’t industrialized?

What is point of having factories making things and the product is just sitting in warehouse because people way too poor to buy any thing.

 

[Meathead]

But the US, UK and Europe must have had middle class before they built factories and industrialized.

Where as those countries are really poor so they probably not going to build factories because people are way too poor to buy any thing. So they can’t industrialized?

What is point of having factories making things and the product is just sitting in warehouse because people way too poor to buy any thing.

You do get the idea of trade, right?

 

[Parker99]

You do get the idea of trade, right?

So you are saying the US, UK and Europe traded and got rich and made strong middle class because of trade and later on built factories and industrialized.

But those countries are not trading?

 

[Meathead]

So you are saying the US, UK and Europe traded and got rich and made strong middle class because of trade and later on built factories and industrialized.

But those countries are not trading?

They produced more than they needed and exported. You really don't get the concept of trade, do you?

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Africa is poor because blacks are so mentally inferior. The evidence is overwhelming. We see it in america too with sewers like detroit and baltimore and east st louis etc. Few blacks can even read.

1. Black-americans come in last in all standardized tests. Asian-americans do fine on all the tests so it’s not due to cultural bias in the tests.

2. Africa is by far the poorest and most backward continent on the planet. All of black africa is now controlled by blacks and has been for decades so it’s not due to racism.

3. No black has ever won a Science Nobel Prize unless you count one in 1979 for the semi-science of economics. They have won many nobels in non-brain fields like Peace and also in Literature so it is not due to racism.

4. Out of 1725 chess grandmasters in the world, only THREE are black.

5. 50 years of affirmative action special treatment and blacks have fallen even further behind. What does that tell you?

6. If there is a GIANT WHITE CONSPIRACY holding down blacks, why doesn’t it apply in pro sports.?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

That is a chicken and egg question if factories need a strong middle class to manufacture and sale to than how do you get strong middle class? Why build factories if people are way too poor and cannot buy your product.

If you look at the US and UK when they build factories and industrialize did they have strong middle class before they build factories and industrialize?

Where did that wealth cone from? Why does Africa not have that wealth?

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Low wages should lead to low prices, which lead to local sales in the Third World basket cases and nowhere else. The building of factories there will also be done with low-wage construction workers.

This should be the only case in which we should allow outsourcing. Let those who deport jobs, which the American people created for them, instead build foreign factories where the local low wages will lead to low prices that are necessary to create a market there that cannot exist here.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The entire western hemisphere had zero before European settlers arrived on the scene.

Intelligence, resources, and knowing how to use those resources built modern industrial western societies.

If the average IQ of your population doesn't break into triple digits, you're going to have a society of tribal dirt farmers and goat herders.

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