JimBowie1958
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Not long ago I came to the realization that Identity Politics runs the political discourse and machinery of Western Civilization, if one can say it still exists in a Post-modern intellectual environment and exemplified by the Kate Steinle murder. So it would seem that white people should organize and represent themselves as have Hispanics, blacks, homosexuals, radicalized women, etc, or else we would be left with no place at the political table, not represented.
Seems to be a rational choice given the tribalism that runs our culture, but only if you are an 'oppressed minority', and that oppression might be at any time and any place. The primary consideration for tolerance of a group organizing is how well such a group fits into a Post-Modern, pseudo-Marxist agenda and narrative.
I have never been overly concerned with being viewed as a misfit or social reject as our society is run by people who are trying to destroy us as a culture and civilization by remaking it all into some monstrosity of Consumer driven Hedonism guided only by Narcissism. But I wanted to understand White Nationalism more deeply before I formally tossed my hat into that ring of ideological madness.
1) The first thing I learned is that White Nationalism stems from an adoption of Identity Politics as a world view, that ones group identity determines ones character and potential, which I cannot accept. Racialism of the WEB Du Bois sort is misleading in that there are other categorizations of the human species such as phenotype and somatotype that more accurately describe the health and mentality of an individual than racialism does, though Somatotype theory is rightly dismissed as an over-generalization of the human being even so.
Categorizing people by race makes as much sense as buying a new car based solely on the color of the paint job which is irrational to say the least.
2) But that Identity Politics and its attendant racialism is irrational should surprise no one since it is part of the broader Post-Modern movement which rejects rationality altogether.
This rejection of objectivity, morality, truth, reason and social progress is what is killing our civilization which makes anything associated with Post-modern thought a form of cultural suicide for any culture. So, in essence, an acceptance of White Nationalism is an indirect adoption of moral relativism, subjectivism, and irrationality as well as the fraud of racial thinking in general.
3) When I consider what is best for our culture, our nation and our progeny, things that are evolutionally valid considerations, I cannot accept the notion that we cannot improve our society and culture. I cannot accept the insanity of a subjective world view that creates only intellectual/moral chaos and mistrust. I cannot accept a world view that inevitably leads to cultural extinction and moral decay.
White Nationalism is just one more form of the Decadence that is the only true existential threat to our nation, our civilization and Humanity itself.
4) White Nationalism, as a part of the Identity Politics rubric of ideas, weakens the organized impact of the working class as a whole.
There is no redeeming feature to White Nationalism and it represents a step backwards for working class people of all races, genders and faiths.
I urge fellow patriots and civic Americans to fight Identity Politics in all its forms as much as they would fight Marxism or fascism.
This threat is very real and poses an existential threat far worse than any other of our time to include terrorism and environmental change. We can handle those problems if we remain rational and objective, but Identity Politics, White Nationalism, and Post-Modernism reject these tools to survive and would doom us all to eventual extinction.
Seems to be a rational choice given the tribalism that runs our culture, but only if you are an 'oppressed minority', and that oppression might be at any time and any place. The primary consideration for tolerance of a group organizing is how well such a group fits into a Post-Modern, pseudo-Marxist agenda and narrative.
I have never been overly concerned with being viewed as a misfit or social reject as our society is run by people who are trying to destroy us as a culture and civilization by remaking it all into some monstrosity of Consumer driven Hedonism guided only by Narcissism. But I wanted to understand White Nationalism more deeply before I formally tossed my hat into that ring of ideological madness.
1) The first thing I learned is that White Nationalism stems from an adoption of Identity Politics as a world view, that ones group identity determines ones character and potential, which I cannot accept. Racialism of the WEB Du Bois sort is misleading in that there are other categorizations of the human species such as phenotype and somatotype that more accurately describe the health and mentality of an individual than racialism does, though Somatotype theory is rightly dismissed as an over-generalization of the human being even so.
Categorizing people by race makes as much sense as buying a new car based solely on the color of the paint job which is irrational to say the least.
2) But that Identity Politics and its attendant racialism is irrational should surprise no one since it is part of the broader Post-Modern movement which rejects rationality altogether.
While encompassing a wide variety of approaches, postmodernism is generally defined by an attitude of skepticism, irony, or rejection toward the meta-narratives and ideologies of modernism, often calling into question various assumptions of Enlightenment rationality.[5] Consequently, common targets of postmodern critique include universalist notions of objective reality, morality, truth, human nature, reason, language, and social progress.[5] Postmodern thinkers frequently call attention to the contingent or socially-conditioned nature of knowledge claims and value systems, situating them as products of particular political, historical, or cultural discourses and hierarchies.[5] Accordingly, postmodern thought is broadly characterized by tendencies to self-referentiality, epistemological and moral relativism, pluralism, subjectivism, and irreverence. - Postmodernism - Wikipedia
The Disuniting of America: Reflections on a Multicultural Society is a 1991 book written by American historian Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., a former advisor to the Kennedy and other US administrations and a winner of the Pulitzer Prize.
Schlesinger states that a new attitude, one that celebrates difference and abandons assimilation, may replace the classic image of the melting pot in which differences are submerged in democracy. He argues that ethnic awareness has had many positive consequences to unite a nation with a "history of prejudice." However, the "cult of ethnicity," if pushed too far, may endanger the unity of society.
According to Schlesinger, multiculturalists are "very often ethnocentric separatists who see little in the Western heritage other than Western crimes." Their "mood is one of divesting Americans of their sinful European inheritance and seeking redemptive infusions from non-Western cultures."[1] - The Disuniting of America - Wikipedia
Schlesinger states that a new attitude, one that celebrates difference and abandons assimilation, may replace the classic image of the melting pot in which differences are submerged in democracy. He argues that ethnic awareness has had many positive consequences to unite a nation with a "history of prejudice." However, the "cult of ethnicity," if pushed too far, may endanger the unity of society.
According to Schlesinger, multiculturalists are "very often ethnocentric separatists who see little in the Western heritage other than Western crimes." Their "mood is one of divesting Americans of their sinful European inheritance and seeking redemptive infusions from non-Western cultures."[1] - The Disuniting of America - Wikipedia
Linguist Noam Chomsky has argued that postmodernism is meaningless because it adds nothing to analytical or empirical knowledge. He asks why postmodernist intellectuals won't respond like people in other fields when asked:
In a similar vein, Richard Dawkins writes in a favorable review of Alan Sokal and Jean Bricmont's Intellectual Impostures:[4]
Seriously, what are the principles of their theories, on what evidence are they based, what do they explain that wasn't already obvious, etc? These are fair requests for anyone to make. If they can't be met, then I'd suggest recourse to Hume's advice in similar circumstances: to the flames.[1]
Christopher Hitchens in his book, Why Orwell Matters, writes, in advocating for simple, clear and direct expression of ideas, "The Postmodernists' tyranny wears people down by boredom and semi-literate prose."[2] Hitchens also criticized a postmodernist volume, "The Johns Hopkins Guide to Literary Theory and Criticism":[3] "The French, as it happens, once evolved an expression for this sort of prose: la langue de bois, the wooden tongue, in which nothing useful or enlightening can be said, but in which various excuses for the arbitrary and the dishonest can be offered. (This book) is a pointer to the abysmal state of mind that prevails in so many of our universities."In a similar vein, Richard Dawkins writes in a favorable review of Alan Sokal and Jean Bricmont's Intellectual Impostures:[4]
Suppose you are an intellectual impostor with nothing to say, but with strong ambitions to succeed in academic life, collect a coterie of reverent disciples and have students around the world anoint your pages with respectful yellow highlighter. What kind of literary style would you cultivate? Not a lucid one, surely, for clarity would expose your lack of content.
Dawkins then uses a quotation from Félix Guattari as an example of this "lack of content". - Criticism of postmodernism - WikipediaThis rejection of objectivity, morality, truth, reason and social progress is what is killing our civilization which makes anything associated with Post-modern thought a form of cultural suicide for any culture. So, in essence, an acceptance of White Nationalism is an indirect adoption of moral relativism, subjectivism, and irrationality as well as the fraud of racial thinking in general.
3) When I consider what is best for our culture, our nation and our progeny, things that are evolutionally valid considerations, I cannot accept the notion that we cannot improve our society and culture. I cannot accept the insanity of a subjective world view that creates only intellectual/moral chaos and mistrust. I cannot accept a world view that inevitably leads to cultural extinction and moral decay.
White Nationalism is just one more form of the Decadence that is the only true existential threat to our nation, our civilization and Humanity itself.
4) White Nationalism, as a part of the Identity Politics rubric of ideas, weakens the organized impact of the working class as a whole.
Historian Arthur Schlesinger Jr. discussed identity politics extensively in his 1991 book The Disuniting of America. Schlesinger, a strong supporter of liberal conceptions of civil rights, argues that a liberal democracy requires a common basis for culture and society to function. In his view, basing politics on group marginalization fractures the civil polity, and therefore works against creating real opportunities for ending marginalization. Schlesinger believes that "movements for civil rights should aim toward full acceptance and integration of marginalized groups into the mainstream culture, rather than...perpetuating that marginalization through affirmations of difference".[17]
Brendan O'Neill has contrasted the politics of gay liberation and identity politics by saying "... [Peter] Tatchell also had, back in the day, ... a commitment to the politics of liberation, which encouraged gays to come out and live and engage. Now, we have the politics of identity, which invites people to stay in, to look inward, to obsess over the body and the self, to surround themselves with a moral forcefield to protect their worldview—which has nothing to do with the world—from any questioning."[18]
Author Owen Jones argues that identity politics often marginalize the working class, saying that:
In the 1950s and 1960s, left-wing intellectuals who were both inspired and informed by a powerful labour movement wrote hundreds of books and articles on working-class issues. Such work would help shape the views of politicians at the very top of the Labour Party. Today, progressive intellectuals are far more interested in issues of identity. ... Of course, the struggles for the emancipation of women, gays, and ethnic minorities are exceptionally important causes. New Labour has co-opted them, passing genuinely progressive legislation on gay equality and women's rights, for example. But it is an agenda that has happily co-existed with the sidelining of the working class in politics, allowing New Labour to protect its radical flank while pressing ahead with Thatcherite policies.
— Owen Jones, Chavs: The Demonization of the Working Class[19]
Brendan O'Neill has contrasted the politics of gay liberation and identity politics by saying "... [Peter] Tatchell also had, back in the day, ... a commitment to the politics of liberation, which encouraged gays to come out and live and engage. Now, we have the politics of identity, which invites people to stay in, to look inward, to obsess over the body and the self, to surround themselves with a moral forcefield to protect their worldview—which has nothing to do with the world—from any questioning."[18]
Author Owen Jones argues that identity politics often marginalize the working class, saying that:
In the 1950s and 1960s, left-wing intellectuals who were both inspired and informed by a powerful labour movement wrote hundreds of books and articles on working-class issues. Such work would help shape the views of politicians at the very top of the Labour Party. Today, progressive intellectuals are far more interested in issues of identity. ... Of course, the struggles for the emancipation of women, gays, and ethnic minorities are exceptionally important causes. New Labour has co-opted them, passing genuinely progressive legislation on gay equality and women's rights, for example. But it is an agenda that has happily co-existed with the sidelining of the working class in politics, allowing New Labour to protect its radical flank while pressing ahead with Thatcherite policies.
— Owen Jones, Chavs: The Demonization of the Working Class[19]
There is no redeeming feature to White Nationalism and it represents a step backwards for working class people of all races, genders and faiths.
I urge fellow patriots and civic Americans to fight Identity Politics in all its forms as much as they would fight Marxism or fascism.
This threat is very real and poses an existential threat far worse than any other of our time to include terrorism and environmental change. We can handle those problems if we remain rational and objective, but Identity Politics, White Nationalism, and Post-Modernism reject these tools to survive and would doom us all to eventual extinction.
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