Why Harris lost

[Lesh]

Or perhaps they didn't like the democrat bait and switch to get the loser Kamala in or they were tired of democrats running on "You must hate Trump!! He's Hitler!!".

Does that occur to you?

Not really

I know that’s your talking point but that’s all it is

 

[SmokeALib]

Exactly. Dems lost over the price of eggs and stuff. Now everyone howling that the Dems gotta move to the right.

And the border crisis and stuff.
And naked men in women's locker rooms and stuff.
And incompetent candidates and stuff.
And trying to buy votes with 25k checks and stuff.
Americans seen right through this bullshit.

 

[Lesh]

Trumpers… enjoy you’re moment

Spike the football if it makes you feel good

But remember this

Every Presidency faces a crisis. Trump has shown he is not up to it and he certainly isn’t putting competent people in critical positions

You’ll see

 

[Lesh]

And the border crisis and stuff.
And naked men in women's locker rooms and stuff.
And incompetent candidates and stuff.
And trying to buy votes with 25k checks and stuff.
Americans seen right through this bullshit.

Those were motivating factors for TRUMPERS

They are not why a Dems stayed home

Dems get complacent.

They did this in 2000 as well

 

[Marener]

So show me how.

You can clearly see credit card debt increased under Trump to a peak in March 2020.

 

[buckeye]

The growth of CC debt decreased during Covid.

Trump's peak 2019 Q4 was 927 billion which went down to 770 billion Q1 2021.

Biden started at the 770 billion and its up to almost 1.2 trillion now. Inflation under Biden is third highest in history which common sense will tell you that will cause record high cc debt.

U.S. Inflation Rate by President: From Truman to Biden

Here are the average year-over-year inflation rates by president, and the events and economic conditions that contributed to them.

www.investopedia.com

 

[Lesh]

Record numbers of people voting early and showing up on election day were staying home?

Voting early means nothing in terms of total votes

The vote tallies show that Dems stayed home

Trumpers didn’t

 

[X.Onasis]

There were not record numbers showing up on Election Day.

No? Why were election workers, mayors, and reporters at the polls saying so? Fake news?

When even the buffoon said they'd never seen anything like it, he was lying?

 

[Marener]

The growth of CC debt decreased during Covid.

only because consumser spending decreased and the government sent people a lot of free money.

 

[Lesh]

No? Why were election workers, mayors, and reporters at the polls saying so? Fake news?

When even the buffoon said they'd never seen anything like it, he was lying?

Poll workers can not see the overall picture obviously

Vote totals were lower

Fact

 

[SmokeALib]

Those were motivating factors for TRUMPERS

They are not why a Dems stayed home

Dems get complacent.

They did this in 2000 as well

Nothing new here. Dems are normally complacent, aka lazy.

 

[Arlette]

Those were motivating factors for TRUMPERS

They are not why a Dems stayed home

Dems get complacent.

They did this in 2000 as well

Ultimately it boiled down to economic hardship. People voted their pocketbook. Stuff is too expensive for ordinary people to maintain their life style. And more people trusted Trump to take care of it. It's ridiculous to me but that's what the numbers say. I'm going with the numbers

 

[buckeye]

Not really

I know that’s your talking point but that’s all it is

You side got clobbered.

Don't introspect on the lawfare, the Hitler comparisons, the constant screaming about Trump, Trump, Trump, the poor quality of your candidate who had NO past policies to run on and instead only talked about future give aways and Trump.

Got it.

 

[X.Onasis]

Poll workers can not see the overall picture obviously

Vote totals were lower

Fact

You spelled tallies wrong.

 

[buckeye]

Those were motivating factors for TRUMPERS

Those were motivating factors for AMERICANS. Calling them Trumpers shows how little you get it.

 

[buckeye]

You can clearly see credit card debt increased under Trump to a peak in March 2020.

No, it doesn't. The peak was Q4 2019. You're wrong again.

 

[Lesh]

Those were motivating factors for AMERICANS. Calling them Trumpers shows how little you get it.

Your problem is that you think only Trumpers are Americans

 

[Lesh]

No, it doesn't. The peak was Q4 2019. You're wrong again.

Did credit card debt decrease between Dec31 2019 and March 2020?

 

[Marener]

No, it doesn't. The peak was Q4 2019. You're wrong again.

You need more granular detail.

Consumer Loans: Credit Cards and Other Revolving Plans, All Commercial Banks

Graph and download economic data for Consumer Loans: Credit Cards and Other Revolving Plans, All Commercial Banks (CCLACBW027SBOG) from 2000-06-28 to 2025-03-12 about revolving, credit cards, loans, consumer, banks, depository institutions, and USA.

fred.stlouisfed.org

The Fed has data going down to weekly. The peak was mid March 2020.

Even if you were right about when the peak occurred, it clearly rose during his presidency.

 

[buckeye]

Why were election workers, mayors, and reporters at the polls saying so?

I have no idea. What does what someone says have to do with facts shown by vote counts?

Some areas the vote tallies were up, some areas the vote tallies were down. Where I live you didn't stand in line at all which is not true of prior elections. It's a very blue area, btw.