Why does the left hate St Jude?

[JoeB131]

the point is you didnt have the imagination to realize the reality

as evidenced by your attempt be smart with your retarded question

I'm sure we'll have a point where we can screen for everything.. which again, why is this a bad thing again.

We might even have a future of no congential defects because babies will be screened before they are conceived.

Again, this would be wonderful to a thinking person, and to a sky-fairy worshiper, not so much.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, it's not that people hate St. Jude's hospital, I doubt very many people do.

However..................selling access by saying you're raising money for charity is wrong.

Matter of fact, I doubt that it would be legal for a U.S. Navy Captain who served in a major conflict to auction off a dinner with him in full uniform on his ship. Why? Because according to the rules that the military has to comply with, they can't do things like that because it could be considered an official endorsement from the Navy for that particular charity, and the Navy cannot be seen as being partial towards one group over another.

In this case, Ms. Trump has definite access to the White House, and because of that, having a private one on one dinner, coffee, etc. could be considered as the winner of the raffle getting unfair access to the White House because of the influence she has on Donald Trump.

 

[sakinago]

Yes, the illegal invasion of Iraq was treason and a war crime.

And Obama invading Libya and Syria was.......

He didn't invade them.

He decided to arm one side in ongoing civil wars. Now, yes, you can argue that was a bad idea, but those civil wars were happening whether we got involved or not.

There's a difference between a civil war, and then the arming AND setting up a no fly zone for one side that quite frankly really wasn't much better than the side in power. Then the original power was knocked out, and a power vacuum formed, surprise surprise.

So your argument is, it's ok for Obama to do what bush did, because he did so through proxys?

 

[NYcarbineer]

I would rather have a country where the government protects the health needs of a poor child by providing him necessary healthcare regardless of his or her family's ability to pay than to have a country where the health of a poor child is wholly dependent on the whims of the Rich.

 

[sakinago]

I would rather have a country where the government protects the health needs of a poor child by providing him necessary healthcare regardless of his or her family's ability to pay than to have a country where the health of a poor child is wholly dependent on the whims of the Rich.

That is this country, that's always been this country. Are hospitals weren't letting sick kids die left and right because their parents couldn't pay. Get off of your straw man.

Socialized medicine does exactly what socialism does, just on medical level. Creates a utilitarian environment where one does/should not exist. It's very convenient for the everyday joe making up the majority with a cold, broken arm, etc. but when it comes to elective surgeries needed, and sometimes even urgent surgeries needed...it's the few who need these and the few who get the short end of the stick. Waiting list for chemo treatments, a cane instead of a new knee, pain pills instead of spinal fusion etc. My work is 4 hours from the Canadian boarder, yet we get patients from Canada for chemo infusions who direly need them...so why aren't accusing the Canadian system of letting people die?

 

[NYcarbineer]

I would rather have a country where the government protects the health needs of a poor child by providing him necessary healthcare regardless of his or her family's ability to pay than to have a country where the health of a poor child is wholly dependent on the whims of the Rich.

That is this country, that's always been this country. Are hospitals weren't letting sick kids die left and right because their parents couldn't pay. Get off of your straw man.

Socialized medicine does exactly what socialism does, just on medical level. Creates a utilitarian environment where one does/should not exist. It's very convenient for the everyday joe making up the majority with a cold, broken arm, etc. but when it comes to elective surgeries needed, and sometimes even urgent surgeries needed...it's the few who need these and the few who get the short end of the stick. Waiting list for chemo treatments, a cane instead of a new knee, pain pills instead of spinal fusion etc. My work is 4 hours from the Canadian boarder, yet we get patients from Canada for chemo infusions who direly need them...so why aren't accusing the Canadian system of letting people die?

Okay, so why does St. Judes even exist if no poor kids in America need charity to get the healthcare they need?

 

[Syriusly]

St. Jude's is a wonderful place......but I'm a Leftie and I guess my post will be ignored because it doesn't fit in your RW box.

Yep- "Leftie's' regularly appear on St. Judes commercials and are among the celebrity donors to St. Judes.

It is almost like the OP doesn't really care about St. Judes- but is just using the sick kids at St. Judes as a tool to attack the "Left".

Oh wait- that is exactly what he is doing.

 

[owebo]

St. Jude's is a wonderful place......but I'm a Leftie and I guess my post will be ignored because it doesn't fit in your RW box.

Yep- "Leftie's' regularly appear on St. Judes commercials and are among the celebrity donors to St. Judes.

It is almost like the OP doesn't really care about St. Judes- but is just using the sick kids at St. Judes as a tool to attack the "Left".

Oh wait- that is exactly what he is doing.

Money is all green to the conservative St. Jude's charity.......

 

[Syriusly]

My family has supported St. Jude- and Planned Parenthood for years.

Good kill kids but if they avoid the chopping block, help them out

Too bad if people knew they would be this bad off, planned parenthood would recommend termination.

If you know anyone killing kids, report them to the police.

Meanwhile- Planned Parenthood supports women's health, and St. Judes is a great institution that supports sick kids.

And just a tool for you to attack 'the left'

My family has supported St. Jude- and Planned Parenthood for years.

Good kill kids but if they avoid the chopping block, help them out

Too bad if people knew they would be this bad off, planned parenthood would recommend termination.

If you know anyone killing kids, report them to the police.

Meanwhile- Planned Parenthood supports women's health, and St. Judes is a great institution that supports sick kids.

And just a tool for you to attack 'the left'

I would, but your side let's them go.


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Wow- a judge made a sentence you don't approve of 20 years ago- so all of the Left are bad.

God you are such an right wing idiot.

Now if I had said that 'your side" was busy murdering doctors and bombing clinics- I would be just as much of an idiot as you are.

Meanwhile- Planned Parenthood supports women's health, and St. Judes is a great institution that supports sick kids.

And just a tool for you to attack 'the left'

Wow you are so casual with stuff.,.

What am I 'casual' about specifically?

Look at my posting record here at USMB and I will applaud the conviction and lengthy sentences given to rapists and child molesters.

Not sure why you want to try to derail your own thread from your using the sick kids of St. Jude to attack liberals.

Liberals who regularly support St. Judes

 

[Syriusly]

St. Jude's is a wonderful place......but I'm a Leftie and I guess my post will be ignored because it doesn't fit in your RW box.

Yep- "Leftie's' regularly appear on St. Judes commercials and are among the celebrity donors to St. Judes.

It is almost like the OP doesn't really care about St. Judes- but is just using the sick kids at St. Judes as a tool to attack the "Left".

Oh wait- that is exactly what he is doing.

Money is all green to the conservative St. Jude's charity.......

So conservative that they welcome the dozen's of Holiday liberals who give their time and money to St. Judes.

So 'conservative' that they invited Hillary Clinton to open a new wing of St. Judes

Hillary Clinton helps dedicate new St. Jude facility to Marlo Thomas (Video)

 

[owebo]

St. Jude's is a wonderful place......but I'm a Leftie and I guess my post will be ignored because it doesn't fit in your RW box.

Yep- "Leftie's' regularly appear on St. Judes commercials and are among the celebrity donors to St. Judes.

It is almost like the OP doesn't really care about St. Judes- but is just using the sick kids at St. Judes as a tool to attack the "Left".

Oh wait- that is exactly what he is doing.

Money is all green to the conservative St. Jude's charity.......

So conservative that they welcome the dozen's of Holiday liberals who give their time and money to St. Judes.

So 'conservative' that they invited Hillary Clinton to open a new wing of St. Judes

Hillary Clinton helps dedicate new St. Jude facility to Marlo Thomas (Video)

Money is always green to St. Jude's....even of the photo-op democrat whores.....

 

[Syriusly]

St. Jude's is a wonderful place......but I'm a Leftie and I guess my post will be ignored because it doesn't fit in your RW box.

Yep- "Leftie's' regularly appear on St. Judes commercials and are among the celebrity donors to St. Judes.

It is almost like the OP doesn't really care about St. Judes- but is just using the sick kids at St. Judes as a tool to attack the "Left".

Oh wait- that is exactly what he is doing.

Money is all green to the conservative St. Jude's charity.......

So conservative that they welcome the dozen's of Holiday liberals who give their time and money to St. Judes.

So 'conservative' that they invited Hillary Clinton to open a new wing of St. Judes

Hillary Clinton helps dedicate new St. Jude facility to Marlo Thomas (Video)

Money is always green to St. Jude's....even of the photo-op democrat whores.....

So why are you calling Marlo Thomas a whore?

Oh right- because she works to help sick children, and is a feminist, and a liberal.

Typical Right wing nut job- women are all just whores to you.

 

[owebo]

St. Jude's is a wonderful place......but I'm a Leftie and I guess my post will be ignored because it doesn't fit in your RW box.

Yep- "Leftie's' regularly appear on St. Judes commercials and are among the celebrity donors to St. Judes.

It is almost like the OP doesn't really care about St. Judes- but is just using the sick kids at St. Judes as a tool to attack the "Left".

Oh wait- that is exactly what he is doing.

Money is all green to the conservative St. Jude's charity.......

So conservative that they welcome the dozen's of Holiday liberals who give their time and money to St. Judes.

So 'conservative' that they invited Hillary Clinton to open a new wing of St. Judes

Hillary Clinton helps dedicate new St. Jude facility to Marlo Thomas (Video)

Money is always green to St. Jude's....even of the photo-op democrat whores.....

So why are you calling Marlo Thomas a whore?

Oh right- because she works to help sick children, and is a feminist, and a liberal.

Typical Right wing nut job- women are all just whores to you.

What office is she running for?

 

[sakinago]

I would rather have a country where the government protects the health needs of a poor child by providing him necessary healthcare regardless of his or her family's ability to pay than to have a country where the health of a poor child is wholly dependent on the whims of the Rich.

That is this country, that's always been this country. Are hospitals weren't letting sick kids die left and right because their parents couldn't pay. Get off of your straw man.

Socialized medicine does exactly what socialism does, just on medical level. Creates a utilitarian environment where one does/should not exist. It's very convenient for the everyday joe making up the majority with a cold, broken arm, etc. but when it comes to elective surgeries needed, and sometimes even urgent surgeries needed...it's the few who need these and the few who get the short end of the stick. Waiting list for chemo treatments, a cane instead of a new knee, pain pills instead of spinal fusion etc. My work is 4 hours from the Canadian boarder, yet we get patients from Canada for chemo infusions who direly need them...so why aren't accusing the Canadian system of letting people die?

Okay, so why does St. Judes even exist if no poor kids in America need charity to get the healthcare they need?

You really don't know the answer to that question?

 

[jon_berzerk]

the point is you didnt have the imagination to realize the reality

as evidenced by your attempt be smart with your retarded question

I'm sure we'll have a point where we can screen for everything.. which again, why is this a bad thing again.

We might even have a future of no congential defects because babies will be screened before they are conceived.

Again, this would be wonderful to a thinking person, and to a sky-fairy worshiper, not so much.

maybe but your still made a dumb ass post

 

[Syriusly]

Yep- "Leftie's' regularly appear on St. Judes commercials and are among the celebrity donors to St. Judes.

It is almost like the OP doesn't really care about St. Judes- but is just using the sick kids at St. Judes as a tool to attack the "Left".

Oh wait- that is exactly what he is doing.

Money is all green to the conservative St. Jude's charity.......

So conservative that they welcome the dozen's of Holiday liberals who give their time and money to St. Judes.

So 'conservative' that they invited Hillary Clinton to open a new wing of St. Judes

Hillary Clinton helps dedicate new St. Jude facility to Marlo Thomas (Video)

Money is always green to St. Jude's....even of the photo-op democrat whores.....

So why are you calling Marlo Thomas a whore?

Oh right- because she works to help sick children, and is a feminist, and a liberal.

Typical Right wing nut job- women are all just whores to you.

What office is she running for?

Why do you care what office women you call whores are running for?

 

[owebo]

Money is all green to the conservative St. Jude's charity.......

So conservative that they welcome the dozen's of Holiday liberals who give their time and money to St. Judes.

So 'conservative' that they invited Hillary Clinton to open a new wing of St. Judes

Hillary Clinton helps dedicate new St. Jude facility to Marlo Thomas (Video)

Money is always green to St. Jude's....even of the photo-op democrat whores.....

So why are you calling Marlo Thomas a whore?

Oh right- because she works to help sick children, and is a feminist, and a liberal.

Typical Right wing nut job- women are all just whores to you.

What office is she running for?

Why do you care what office women you call whores are running for?

Just the democrat ones....

 

[Syriusly]

So conservative that they welcome the dozen's of Holiday liberals who give their time and money to St. Judes.

So 'conservative' that they invited Hillary Clinton to open a new wing of St. Judes

Hillary Clinton helps dedicate new St. Jude facility to Marlo Thomas (Video)

Money is always green to St. Jude's....even of the photo-op democrat whores.....

So why are you calling Marlo Thomas a whore?

Oh right- because she works to help sick children, and is a feminist, and a liberal.

Typical Right wing nut job- women are all just whores to you.

What office is she running for?

Why do you care what office women you call whores are running for?

Just the democrat ones....

So you are calling Marlo Thomas- the spokesperson for St. Judes- the celebrity face of St. Judes- the daughter of the man who founded St. Judes- a whore.

Because she is a Democrat.

Now those are Trump values in action!

 

[JoeB131]

There's a difference between a civil war, and then the arming AND setting up a no fly zone for one side that quite frankly really wasn't much better than the side in power. Then the original power was knocked out, and a power vacuum formed, surprise surprise.

So your argument is, it's ok for Obama to do what bush did, because he did so through proxys?

I'm not saying it was okay. In fact, I think it was actually bad policy.

but here's the thing.

1) Obama didn't lie about what we were doing or why we were doing it.
2) Obama got international support for the action from the UN, the Arab League and NATO, while Bush ignored all attempts to resolve the matter diplomatically.
3) Obama helped people get rid of a dictator they didnt' want. No one in Iraq really wanted to get rid of Saddam except for the Kurds. If they did, then we could have armed Proxies. But that was our policy from 1991 to 2002, and it didn't work.

Khadafy was gone in a few months after the fighting started.

 

[JoeB131]

Socialized medicine does exactly what socialism does, just on medical level. Creates a utilitarian environment where one does/should not exist. It's very convenient for the everyday joe making up the majority with a cold, broken arm, etc. but when it comes to elective surgeries needed, and sometimes even urgent surgeries needed...it's the few who need these and the few who get the short end of the stick. Waiting list for chemo treatments, a cane instead of a new knee, pain pills instead of spinal fusion etc. My work is 4 hours from the Canadian boarder, yet we get patients from Canada for chemo infusions who direly need them...so why aren't accusing the Canadian system of letting people die?

Mostly because Canadian Medical Tourism is a myth.

Phantoms In The Snow: Canadians’ Use Of Health Care Services In The United States

To examine the extent to which Canadian residents seek medical care across the border, we collected data about Canadians’ use of services from ambulatory care facilities and hospitals located in Michigan, New York State, and Washington State during 1994–1998. We also collected information from several Canadian sources, including the 1996 National Population Health Survey, the provincial Ministries of Health, and the Canadian Life and Health Insurance Association. Results from these sources do not support the widespread perception that Canadian residents seek care extensively in the United States. Indeed, the numbers found are so small as to be barely detectible relative to the use of care by Canadians at home.

Almost 40 percent of the facilities we surveyed reported treating no Canadians, while an additional 40 percent had seen fewer than ten patients (Exhibit 1⇓). Fifteen percent of respondent sites reported treating 10–25 Canadian patients, and only about 5 percent reported seeing more than 25 during the previous year (generally 25–75 patients; none reported more than 100). These findings were fairly consistent across the service categories. The overall response rate was 67 percent, and it varied across type of clinical facility from 56 percent for ambulatory surgery centers to 80 percent for cancer centers.