Why does the Bible have authority?

[norwegen]

Founders of this country ran from religion and based our Constitution on classical Greek and Roman societies during a time when we were struggling and had a war with Great Britain, a country same as all other states in Europe that was based and run by the church and religious teachings. We ran from that shit like a monkey on fire.

You must be a liberal. Your historical perception is skewed. You may want to correct your liberal friends who say that our government was patterned after the Iriquois model.

Classical antiquity was present at Independence Hall both in 1776 and in 1787, to be sure, but then so were Puritanism and the Congregationalist Church. In their tracts and sermons, a generation of enlightened preachers in the eighteenth century inspired in British America the realization that colonization in the New World was an event designed by the hand of God.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

And yet their were still prophets in the new testament church after Christs assension. And you are still ignoring pauls statements that we are to have apostles and prophets until we come to a unity of faith.

if you haven't noticed, we don't have unity.

even John prophesied of two prophets defending Jerusalem in the last days right before Christ returns. To say that prophets have ceased is to ignore the new testament.

ill share a secret with you. The Lord is calling us all to be prophets. Moses wanted all of Israel to be prophets. In fact, we are all expected to seek out the spirit of prophecy. We are to learn to receive revelation for ourselves in our own lives.

the age of prophets hasn't ended. It's just about to become a golden age for prophets.

This doesn't actually help your argument because you haven't refuted the point that the age of prophets is fulfilled in Christ as clearly indicated in the first two verses of Hebrews. You just did a word search on prophets without any real understanding of the role they play, or as the case may be, don't play in the New Covenant.

The only point you come close on is the Lord calling us all to be prophets if it's understood that it's a gift for everyone. A prophet of the Old Testament represented God to the people, but today we are all part of a "royal priesthood" as stated in the epistle of St. Peter. Moses expressed a desire that all the people be prophets, something I alluded to but you seemed to miss. God wanted to interact directly with his people, but his people rejected his offer, preferring instead that Moses represent him.

In the case of the LDS church founder Joseph Smith, he called himself a prophet in exactly the sense that we're discussing here, a special representative of God, which doesn't exist in the New Covenant. "Call no man on earth your father" is something you seem to ignore, that in Christ all are equal and nobody's special except in the sense we all are "called out of darkness and into his marvelous light."

I do suspect you are Mormon. They are unique in insisting that the age of prophets still endures to this day.

That's because we believe the new testament and don't conveniently ignore it to try to explain away why God isn't communicating with our church. Precisely because He still is.

So you think that only Mormons believe that God still speaks to his church today?

No. They just don't know which Church is His.

Many of them have deluded themselves into thinking God no longer speaks at all. That the Bible is all there is and can be.

Many have convinced themselves there are no apostles or prophets, that they have been done away with despite the promises contrary. They ignore the scriptures and the Holy Spirit when they testify otherwise

But the beauty of all that is God still speaks to man. He calls apostles prophets and other offices of the church to minister to and perfect the saints. And you don't have to take my word for Tim listen for yourself. They are speaking today and tomorrow at conference that is broadcast throughout the world. You can hear a prophets voice yourself in less than an hour.

Let me guess. The LDS church is the one that's his?

Wow! I guess God must have been asleep at the helm to so neglect divine revelation until the 19th century. All those centuries of faithful Christians and God was aloof, waiting for Joseph Smith (PBUH) to be born so that Christians would be liberated by the revelation that it's ok to marry 8 women as young as 14.

Hebrews 1:1,2. Read it. God speaks to us through Christ in these last days, not prophets. Welcome to the New Covenant where Joseph Smith, or anyone like him, is not needed.

 

[norwegen]

Founders of this country ran from religion and based our Constitution on classical Greek and Roman societies during a time when we were struggling and had a war with Great Britain, a country same as all other states in Europe that was based and run by the church and religious teachings. We ran from that shit like a monkey on fire.

Incorrect. They did not run away from religion. They ran away from religious tyranny. You do appreciate the difference, right?

Of course they didn't run away from it. They embraced it. Americans shed the accidental inheritances of the Church of England with deliberation and vision. Colonial America was in many ways a critical juncture in human history, and the parochial concerns of the Americans were a significant joint therein.

 

[Derideo_Te]

You may want to correct your liberal friends who say that our government was patterned after the Iriquois model.

The Constitution wasn't patterned after any religious model that I have ever encountered. Which religion gives people the right to vote for the laws that will govern them?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

. We ran from that shit like a monkey on fire.

100% ignorant of course. America was founded as religious colonies. Before Christ people went to the Colosseum to be entertained by people being eaten alive.

 

[norwegen]

You may want to correct your liberal friends who say that our government was patterned after the Iriquois model.

The Constitution wasn't patterned after any religious model that I have ever encountered.

Cool beans.

Which religion gives people the right to vote for the laws that will govern them?

I give up. Which one?

 

[Gadawg73]

Founders of this country ran from religion and based our Constitution on classical Greek and Roman societies during a time when we were struggling and had a war with Great Britain, a country same as all other states in Europe that was based and run by the church and religious teachings. We ran from that shit like a monkey on fire.

You must be a liberal. Your historical perception is skewed. You may want to correct your liberal friends who say that our government was patterned after the Iriquois model.

Classical antiquity was present at Independence Hall both in 1776 and in 1787, to be sure, but then so were Puritanism and the Congregationalist Church. In their tracts and sermons, a generation of enlightened preachers in the eighteenth century inspired in British America the realization that colonization in the New World was an event designed by the hand of God.

Been voting Republican since 1972 and own 3 corporations. At the time of the revolution against the British most of the large churches in inner cities in the colonies were full of Torries that still supported the crown monarchy. In the south the support for the revolution was very weak because of the churches dependency on British currency buying cotton. Southern plantations supplied 75% of the world's cotton. Our independence was as much freedom FROM religion, divine rights of the monarchy and the impact that centuries old mandate had on the colonies as it was anything else.
Our Constitution gave freedom OF religion, ANY religion with NO religious test for public office here. At that time in England that was punishable by DEATH to not abide by the mandate of divine right of the monarchy.
Our Founders ran from religious mandates on society.
We always know when folks have no argument when they parrot "You must be a liberal".

 

[Gadawg73]

. We ran from that shit like a monkey on fire.

100% ignorant of course. America was founded as religious colonies. Before Christ people went to the Colosseum to be entertained by people being eaten alive.

Ignorance is not understanding divine right of the monarchies and The United States Constitution which does not mention God, has NO religious test to hold public office and the defeat at Continental Congress of any and all motions and proposed bills for funding of religious schools, God in the Constitution and Christianity as the national religion.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Founders of this country ran from religion and based our Constitution on classical Greek and Roman societies during a time when we were struggling and had a war with Great Britain, a country same as all other states in Europe that was based and run by the church and religious teachings. We ran from that shit like a monkey on fire.

You must be a liberal. Your historical perception is skewed. You may want to correct your liberal friends who say that our government was patterned after the Iriquois model.

Classical antiquity was present at Independence Hall both in 1776 and in 1787, to be sure, but then so were Puritanism and the Congregationalist Church. In their tracts and sermons, a generation of enlightened preachers in the eighteenth century inspired in British America the realization that colonization in the New World was an event designed by the hand of God.

Been voting Republican since 1972 and own 3 corporations. At the time of the revolution against the British most of the large churches in inner cities in the colonies were full of Torries that still supported the crown monarchy. In the south the support for the revolution was very weak because of the churches dependency on British currency buying cotton. Southern plantations supplied 75% of the world's cotton. Our independence was as much freedom FROM religion, divine rights of the monarchy and the impact that centuries old mandate had on the colonies as it was anything else.
Our Constitution gave freedom OF religion, ANY religion with NO religious test for public office here. At that time in England that was punishable by DEATH to not abide by the mandate of divine right of the monarchy.
Our Founders ran from religious mandates on society.
We always know when folks have no argument when they parrot "You must be a liberal".

They fled from religious persecution, not religion, you ass. Or are you going to argue that they weren't religious in spite of mountains of evidence to the contrary? You Leftist athiest twats love to insinuate yourselves into history no matter how absurd and tortured your claims are. And the party you vote for has nothing to do with it.

 

[Gadawg73]

Founders of this country ran from religion and based our Constitution on classical Greek and Roman societies during a time when we were struggling and had a war with Great Britain, a country same as all other states in Europe that was based and run by the church and religious teachings. We ran from that shit like a monkey on fire.

You must be a liberal. Your historical perception is skewed. You may want to correct your liberal friends who say that our government was patterned after the Iriquois model.

Classical antiquity was present at Independence Hall both in 1776 and in 1787, to be sure, but then so were Puritanism and the Congregationalist Church. In their tracts and sermons, a generation of enlightened preachers in the eighteenth century inspired in British America the realization that colonization in the New World was an event designed by the hand of God.

Been voting Republican since 1972 and own 3 corporations. At the time of the revolution against the British most of the large churches in inner cities in the colonies were full of Torries that still supported the crown monarchy. In the south the support for the revolution was very weak because of the churches dependency on British currency buying cotton. Southern plantations supplied 75% of the world's cotton. Our independence was as much freedom FROM religion, divine rights of the monarchy and the impact that centuries old mandate had on the colonies as it was anything else.
Our Constitution gave freedom OF religion, ANY religion with NO religious test for public office here. At that time in England that was punishable by DEATH to not abide by the mandate of divine right of the monarchy.
Our Founders ran from religious mandates on society.
We always know when folks have no argument when they parrot "You must be a liberal".

They fled from religious persecution, not religion, you ass. Or are you going to argue that they weren't religious in spite of mountains of evidence to the contrary? You Leftist athiest twats love to insinuate yourselves into history no matter how absurd and tortured your claims are. And the party you vote for has nothing to do with it.

You are speaking of the Pilgrims you fool in early 1600s. We were GOVERNED here in the COLONIES for almost 200 years BY KINGS OF ENGLAND, that mandated everyone OBEY their orders under the policy, which was what was in EVERY European state at that time and 1000+ years, of DIVINE RIGHT which was God gave power to KINGS, the monarchy, to rule over man. Common man must obey the laws of the church which mandated divine right of the monarcy.
History for 3rd graders.
The KINGS OF ENGLAND, under religious beliefs only as THE CHURCH, not man, ran all of Europe and the colonies.
Uh, hate to bust your religious bubble of ignorance there Moe, but we were English SUBJECTS, subject to crown rule, before the revolutionary war.
We gained our independence from what and who?
SAY IT, SAY IT!
The mandates of 1000 years in all European states that GOD gave the power to KINGS and we as subjects of Kings MUST obey God and submit to the monarchies.
Incredible you have no clue about the history of this great nation.
Dumb ass that you are.

 

[Mr.Right]

Founders of this country ran from religion and based our Constitution on classical Greek and Roman societies during a time when we were struggling and had a war with Great Britain, a country same as all other states in Europe that was based and run by the church and religious teachings. We ran from that shit like a monkey on fire.

You must be a liberal. Your historical perception is skewed. You may want to correct your liberal friends who say that our government was patterned after the Iriquois model.

Classical antiquity was present at Independence Hall both in 1776 and in 1787, to be sure, but then so were Puritanism and the Congregationalist Church. In their tracts and sermons, a generation of enlightened preachers in the eighteenth century inspired in British America the realization that colonization in the New World was an event designed by the hand of God.

Been voting Republican since 1972 and own 3 corporations. At the time of the revolution against the British most of the large churches in inner cities in the colonies were full of Torries that still supported the crown monarchy. In the south the support for the revolution was very weak because of the churches dependency on British currency buying cotton. Southern plantations supplied 75% of the world's cotton. Our independence was as much freedom FROM religion, divine rights of the monarchy and the impact that centuries old mandate had on the colonies as it was anything else.
Our Constitution gave freedom OF religion, ANY religion with NO religious test for public office here. At that time in England that was punishable by DEATH to not abide by the mandate of divine right of the monarchy.
Our Founders ran from religious mandates on society.
We always know when folks have no argument when they parrot "You must be a liberal".

They fled from religious persecution, not religion, you ass. Or are you going to argue that they weren't religious in spite of mountains of evidence to the contrary? You Leftist athiest twats love to insinuate yourselves into history no matter how absurd and tortured your claims are. And the party you vote for has nothing to do with it.

You are speaking of the Pilgrims you fool in early 1600s. We were GOVERNED here in the COLONIES for almost 200 years BY KINGS OF ENGLAND, that mandated everyone OBEY their orders under the policy, which was what was in EVERY European state at that time and 1000+ years, of DIVINE RIGHT which was God gave power to KINGS, the monarchy, to rule over man. Common man must obey the laws of the church which mandated divine right of the monarcy.
History for 3rd graders.
The KINGS OF ENGLAND, under religious beliefs only as THE CHURCH, not man, ran all of Europe and the colonies.
Uh, hate to bust your religious bubble of ignorance there Moe, but we were English SUBJECTS, subject to crown rule, before the revolutionary war.
We gained our independence from what and who?
SAY IT, SAY IT!
The mandates of 1000 years in all European states that GOD gave the power to KINGS and we as subjects of Kings MUST obey God and submit to the monarchies.
Incredible you have no clue about the history of this great nation.
Dumb ass that you are.

What they wanted was freedom. Freedom to worship, or not worship, as they saw fit. They were not running from religion. They were running from a corrupt church that had assumed political authority.

 

[norwegen]

Founders of this country ran from religion and based our Constitution on classical Greek and Roman societies during a time when we were struggling and had a war with Great Britain, a country same as all other states in Europe that was based and run by the church and religious teachings. We ran from that shit like a monkey on fire.

You must be a liberal. Your historical perception is skewed. You may want to correct your liberal friends who say that our government was patterned after the Iriquois model.

Classical antiquity was present at Independence Hall both in 1776 and in 1787, to be sure, but then so were Puritanism and the Congregationalist Church. In their tracts and sermons, a generation of enlightened preachers in the eighteenth century inspired in British America the realization that colonization in the New World was an event designed by the hand of God.

Been voting Republican since 1972 and own 3 corporations. At the time of the revolution against the British most of the large churches in inner cities in the colonies were full of Torries that still supported the crown monarchy. In the south the support for the revolution was very weak because of the churches dependency on British currency buying cotton. Southern plantations supplied 75% of the world's cotton. Our independence was as much freedom FROM religion, divine rights of the monarchy and the impact that centuries old mandate had on the colonies as it was anything else.
Our Constitution gave freedom OF religion, ANY religion with NO religious test for public office here. At that time in England that was punishable by DEATH to not abide by the mandate of divine right of the monarchy.
Our Founders ran from religious mandates on society.
We always know when folks have no argument when they parrot "You must be a liberal".

Cotton? What?



"Our founders ran from religious mandates." You don't say.

 

[norwegen]

Founders of this country ran from religion and based our Constitution on classical Greek and Roman societies during a time when we were struggling and had a war with Great Britain, a country same as all other states in Europe that was based and run by the church and religious teachings. We ran from that shit like a monkey on fire.

You must be a liberal. Your historical perception is skewed. You may want to correct your liberal friends who say that our government was patterned after the Iriquois model.

Classical antiquity was present at Independence Hall both in 1776 and in 1787, to be sure, but then so were Puritanism and the Congregationalist Church. In their tracts and sermons, a generation of enlightened preachers in the eighteenth century inspired in British America the realization that colonization in the New World was an event designed by the hand of God.

Been voting Republican since 1972 and own 3 corporations. At the time of the revolution against the British most of the large churches in inner cities in the colonies were full of Torries that still supported the crown monarchy. In the south the support for the revolution was very weak because of the churches dependency on British currency buying cotton. Southern plantations supplied 75% of the world's cotton. Our independence was as much freedom FROM religion, divine rights of the monarchy and the impact that centuries old mandate had on the colonies as it was anything else.
Our Constitution gave freedom OF religion, ANY religion with NO religious test for public office here. At that time in England that was punishable by DEATH to not abide by the mandate of divine right of the monarchy.
Our Founders ran from religious mandates on society.
We always know when folks have no argument when they parrot "You must be a liberal".

They fled from religious persecution, not religion, you ass. Or are you going to argue that they weren't religious in spite of mountains of evidence to the contrary? You Leftist athiest twats love to insinuate yourselves into history no matter how absurd and tortured your claims are. And the party you vote for has nothing to do with it.

You are speaking of the Pilgrims you fool in early 1600s. We were GOVERNED here in the COLONIES for almost 200 years BY KINGS OF ENGLAND, that mandated everyone OBEY their orders under the policy, which was what was in EVERY European state at that time and 1000+ years, of DIVINE RIGHT which was God gave power to KINGS, the monarchy, to rule over man. Common man must obey the laws of the church which mandated divine right of the monarcy.
History for 3rd graders.
The KINGS OF ENGLAND, under religious beliefs only as THE CHURCH, not man, ran all of Europe and the colonies.
Uh, hate to bust your religious bubble of ignorance there Moe, but we were English SUBJECTS, subject to crown rule, before the revolutionary war.
We gained our independence from what and who?
SAY IT, SAY IT!
The mandates of 1000 years in all European states that GOD gave the power to KINGS and we as subjects of Kings MUST obey God and submit to the monarchies.
Incredible you have no clue about the history of this great nation.
Dumb ass that you are.

Actually, when the Massachusetts Bay Company relocated to New England with their capital and records, they converted their commercial charter into a self-governing colony, establishing their own republic free of kings and bishops.

The local common law courts of the British Americans in general were the sources of rules of conduct for them. The Americans administered their own law and order and drafted their own rules concerning production, personal conduct, the worship of God, taxation, etc.

After the Seven Years War, when England actually did attempt to impose prerogative rule on the Americans with their Coercive Acts, the Americans defended the freedoms they were already enjoying. Or did you suppose the Americans just passively endured 150 years of oppression before they thought of doing something about it?


History for adults.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The United States Constitution which does not mention God,.

dear, it did not mention God but it did not object to the fact that the 13 colonies were based on God and that Americans did not go to the Colosseum to be entertained by people being eaten alive.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Our Founders ran from religious mandates on society.

totally stupid and liberal. they embraced and assumed the religious behavior that made the Colosseum impossoble in America.
Did you think the 10 Commandments came from the Romans??

 

[Gadawg73]

Founders of this country ran from religion and based our Constitution on classical Greek and Roman societies during a time when we were struggling and had a war with Great Britain, a country same as all other states in Europe that was based and run by the church and religious teachings. We ran from that shit like a monkey on fire.

You must be a liberal. Your historical perception is skewed. You may want to correct your liberal friends who say that our government was patterned after the Iriquois model.

Classical antiquity was present at Independence Hall both in 1776 and in 1787, to be sure, but then so were Puritanism and the Congregationalist Church. In their tracts and sermons, a generation of enlightened preachers in the eighteenth century inspired in British America the realization that colonization in the New World was an event designed by the hand of God.

Been voting Republican since 1972 and own 3 corporations. At the time of the revolution against the British most of the large churches in inner cities in the colonies were full of Torries that still supported the crown monarchy. In the south the support for the revolution was very weak because of the churches dependency on British currency buying cotton. Southern plantations supplied 75% of the world's cotton. Our independence was as much freedom FROM religion, divine rights of the monarchy and the impact that centuries old mandate had on the colonies as it was anything else.
Our Constitution gave freedom OF religion, ANY religion with NO religious test for public office here. At that time in England that was punishable by DEATH to not abide by the mandate of divine right of the monarchy.
Our Founders ran from religious mandates on society.
We always know when folks have no argument when they parrot "You must be a liberal".

They fled from religious persecution, not religion, you ass. Or are you going to argue that they weren't religious in spite of mountains of evidence to the contrary? You Leftist athiest twats love to insinuate yourselves into history no matter how absurd and tortured your claims are. And the party you vote for has nothing to do with it.

You are speaking of the Pilgrims you fool in early 1600s. We were GOVERNED here in the COLONIES for almost 200 years BY KINGS OF ENGLAND, that mandated everyone OBEY their orders under the policy, which was what was in EVERY European state at that time and 1000+ years, of DIVINE RIGHT which was God gave power to KINGS, the monarchy, to rule over man. Common man must obey the laws of the church which mandated divine right of the monarcy.
History for 3rd graders.
The KINGS OF ENGLAND, under religious beliefs only as THE CHURCH, not man, ran all of Europe and the colonies.
Uh, hate to bust your religious bubble of ignorance there Moe, but we were English SUBJECTS, subject to crown rule, before the revolutionary war.
We gained our independence from what and who?
SAY IT, SAY IT!
The mandates of 1000 years in all European states that GOD gave the power to KINGS and we as subjects of Kings MUST obey God and submit to the monarchies.
Incredible you have no clue about the history of this great nation.
Dumb ass that you are.

Actually, when the Massachusetts Bay Company relocated to New England with their capital and records, they converted their commercial charter into a self-governing colony, establishing their own republic free of kings and bishops.

The local common law courts of the British Americans in general were the sources of rules of conduct for them. The Americans administered their own law and order and drafted their own rules concerning production, personal conduct, the worship of God, taxation, etc.

After the Seven Years War, when England actually did attempt to impose prerogative rule on the Americans with their Coercive Acts, the Americans defended the freedoms they were already enjoying. Or did you suppose the Americans just passively endured 150 years of oppression before they thought of doing something about it?


History for adults.

HAHAHAHA, "self governing colony"

Founders of this country ran from religion and based our Constitution on classical Greek and Roman societies during a time when we were struggling and had a war with Great Britain, a country same as all other states in Europe that was based and run by the church and religious teachings. We ran from that shit like a monkey on fire.

You must be a liberal. Your historical perception is skewed. You may want to correct your liberal friends who say that our government was patterned after the Iriquois model.

Classical antiquity was present at Independence Hall both in 1776 and in 1787, to be sure, but then so were Puritanism and the Congregationalist Church. In their tracts and sermons, a generation of enlightened preachers in the eighteenth century inspired in British America the realization that colonization in the New World was an event designed by the hand of God.

Been voting Republican since 1972 and own 3 corporations. At the time of the revolution against the British most of the large churches in inner cities in the colonies were full of Torries that still supported the crown monarchy. In the south the support for the revolution was very weak because of the churches dependency on British currency buying cotton. Southern plantations supplied 75% of the world's cotton. Our independence was as much freedom FROM religion, divine rights of the monarchy and the impact that centuries old mandate had on the colonies as it was anything else.
Our Constitution gave freedom OF religion, ANY religion with NO religious test for public office here. At that time in England that was punishable by DEATH to not abide by the mandate of divine right of the monarchy.
Our Founders ran from religious mandates on society.
We always know when folks have no argument when they parrot "You must be a liberal".

They fled from religious persecution, not religion, you ass. Or are you going to argue that they weren't religious in spite of mountains of evidence to the contrary? You Leftist athiest twats love to insinuate yourselves into history no matter how absurd and tortured your claims are. And the party you vote for has nothing to do with it.

You are speaking of the Pilgrims you fool in early 1600s. We were GOVERNED here in the COLONIES for almost 200 years BY KINGS OF ENGLAND, that mandated everyone OBEY their orders under the policy, which was what was in EVERY European state at that time and 1000+ years, of DIVINE RIGHT which was God gave power to KINGS, the monarchy, to rule over man. Common man must obey the laws of the church which mandated divine right of the monarcy.
History for 3rd graders.
The KINGS OF ENGLAND, under religious beliefs only as THE CHURCH, not man, ran all of Europe and the colonies.
Uh, hate to bust your religious bubble of ignorance there Moe, but we were English SUBJECTS, subject to crown rule, before the revolutionary war.
We gained our independence from what and who?
SAY IT, SAY IT!
The mandates of 1000 years in all European states that GOD gave the power to KINGS and we as subjects of Kings MUST obey God and submit to the monarchies.
Incredible you have no clue about the history of this great nation.
Dumb ass that you are.

Actually, when the Massachusetts Bay Company relocated to New England with their capital and records, they converted their commercial charter into a self-governing colony, establishing their own republic free of kings and bishops.

The local common law courts of the British Americans in general were the sources of rules of conduct for them. The Americans administered their own law and order and drafted their own rules concerning production, personal conduct, the worship of God, taxation, etc.

After the Seven Years War, when England actually did attempt to impose prerogative rule on the Americans with their Coercive Acts, the Americans defended the freedoms they were already enjoying. Or did you suppose the Americans just passively endured 150 years of oppression before they thought of doing something about it?


History for adults.

ALL of the colonies were under the rule of divine rights of the monarchy. That is what a COLONY is, a colony, NOT a sovereign nation. "The Americans", LOL!, no one called themselves "Americans" when the Massachusetts Bay Company existed in the early 1600s. ALL of them called themselves colonists or British. It was only after the passing of the Constitution or even the War of 1812 when "Americans" became standard over colonists or Georgians or Pennsylvanians or whatever colony. The first mention of of this country's "citizens" that referred to itself as "American" was in the draft of the Constitution and first mention of "The United States of America" was in the Declaration of Independence in 1776.
Speaking of history.

 

[Gadawg73]

Our Founders ran from religious mandates on society.

totally stupid and liberal. they embraced and assumed the religious behavior that made the Colosseum impossoble in America.
Did you think the 10 Commandments came from the Romans??

"liberal" hahaha,
A liberal is one that supports free spending. Liberal has nothing whatsoever to do with stating historical facts. I own 3 corporations and vote Republican. Your childish name calling is juvenile.
You have no facts Eddie so you go with "liberal" When I was young it was "you are a communist".
10 Commandments? What does that have to do with all of Europe being run by religion in 1776?
Edward my boy, what exactly did we declare our independence from?
Religion in government. Our Constitution was the 1st to ban divine right of kings in British colonies.
The law here before that as colonies was the King had a GOD given right to rule.
ALL rebellion against the divine right of monarchs was SIN punishable by death.
Your blind denials of the rule of divine right by the monarchy of England over all the colonies is incredible.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

I'm just going to ignore the athiest. They have no business on religious forums.

 

[Gadawg73]

The United States Constitution which does not mention God,.

dear, it did not mention God but it did not object to the fact that the 13 colonies were based on God and that Americans did not go to the Colosseum to be entertained by people being eaten alive.

"did not object that the 13 colonies were based on God"
HAHAHAHA, "based on God"
Shooting fish in a barrel. This is easier than at Vandy '76.

 

[Gadawg73]

I'm just going to ignore the athiest. They have no business on religious forums.

Not an atheist. Baptist.