Zone1 Why Does God Even Hate Homosexuality?

[Blues Man]

Oh, you're a Bible scholar? Cool. How long have you been studying Scripture?

I have actually read the bible cover to cover more than once where most Christians haven't even read it at all

I've also read the Koran

 

[Blues Man]

First of all is the expression "you religious people" a 'racist' expression: You know nothing about me and your not-knowledge do you try to compensate with your learned prejudices. But I am a stranger - so your prejudices fail. Second: Your use of the word "religious" is absurde. Third: "all hypocrite" see what I said "first". And now comes the only interesting thing of your "argument": What do I say what's in your way to see the world a contradiction to this what you think what god said/says/will say?

Religion is not a race.

And I am criticizing the behavior of religious people.

 

[Frankenstein]

I am. And so are pretty much all the gay people I know. Well there is one agnostic and one Buddhist.

Are they engaging in homosexual sex, because if so they are not Christian at all.

 

[80zephyr]

I know these people very well. And I believe all who are in relationships are in loving monogamous relationships at least as much as my heterosexual friends.

Statistics say otherwise. Believe what you must...

 

[Blues Man]

Are they engaging in homosexual sex, because if so they are not Christian at all.

I think it's up to your god to decide that not you.

Why is it you people always forget the judge not stuff?

 

[BS Filter]

I have actually read the bible cover to cover more than once where most Christians haven't even read it at all

I've also read the Koran

When did you receive the Holy Spirit?

 

[zaangalewa]

Religion is not a race.

And it exists not any human race any longer. We are all homo sapiens sapiens.

And I am criticizing the behavior of religious people.

What's a racist statement - over-generalization - with the open variables "criticizing" and "religious". Do you "criticize" also the behavior of "religious" atheists? Reason why I ask: Atheism is not knowledge but also "only" a belief like all other spiritual (=religious) beliefs. And atheism is in general not known as tolerant in religious (=spiritual) questions. Or is this sentence now not "critics" in your view to the world?

 

[Blues Man]

When did you receive the Holy Spirit?

No such thing.

 

[Blues Man]

And it exists not any human race at all.



What's a racist statement with the open variables "criticizing" and "religious". Do you "criticize" also the behavior of "religious" atheists? Reason why I ask: Atheism is not knowledge but also "only" a belief like all other spirtual (=religious) beliefs. And atheism is in general not known as tolerant in religious (=spiritual) questions. Or is this sentence now not "critics" in your view to the world?

Again religion is not a race so the criticizing of the behavior of religious people cannot be racist.

I don't see atheists judging people for being homosexual as much as the religious do even though the god they worship has told them not to judge others.

In my experience, religious people are the most unkind and judgmental people I have ever met.

 

[zaangalewa]

I think it's up to your god to decide that not you.

Why is it you people always forget the judge not stuff?

Perhaps because we are more then 2 billion idiots while only a few dozen million atheists are intelligent? ... damn ... did you notice the joke with "AI" here?` ... Good grief - I said "damn" - what a wrong behavior ... ¿or not? ...

 

[Blues Man]

Perhaps because we are more then 2 billion idiots while only a few dozen million atheists are intelligent?

So then you admit you don't think for yourself and merely follow the crowd even if they are actually disobeying the god you say you believe in

 

[BS Filter]

No such thing.

LOL. Go read your Bible again.

 

[zaangalewa]

Again religion is not a race so the criticizing of the behavior of religious people cannot be racist. ...

Aha. ... Short answer again: You are wrong because it exist no races at all - but it exists a racist behavior. Your behavior. Reason: Over-generalization.

More concrete: Every Christian is another person with an individual behavior. What you say has the same quality as to say "I hate all Christians because all Christians have a yellow marker on the clothing what means 'this people think wrong and behave wrong. They are criminals'". Or did you never notice what form of racism the Nazis did use to split Germans into Germans (Aryans) and Germans (Jews)?

 

[Blues Man]

LOL. Go read your Bible again.

I did more than once as I have told you and I found nothing in it that invoked any "spirits" holy or otherwise.

 

[Blues Man]

Aha. ... Short answer again: You are wrong because it exist no races at al - but it exists a racist behavior. Your behavior. Reason: Over-generalization. Every Christrinas is another person with an individual behavior. What you say has the same quality as to say "I hate all Christians because all Christians have a yellow marker on the clothing what means 'this people thihnk wrong and behavre wrong. They are criminals".

OK if no races exist than nothing can be racist yet you have called my remarks racist anyway.

 

[zaangalewa]

So then you admit you don't think for yourself and merely follow the crowd even if they are actually disobeying the god you say you believe in

I will think about what you said here ... or not ... By the way. Can it be you suffer prejudices? ... No ... that's not possible, isn't it? ... Or may it be you suffer what I call "abstrahotism"? Or do you have a real concrete example - for what? For "obedience"? Also obedience to the king of the Jews? In this case the Romans will crucify us together with him - but this was - as far as I know - not in the interest of Jesus the Christ, although he was not crucified alone.

 

[Frankenstein]

I think it's up to your god to decide that not you.

Why is it you people always forget the judge not stuff?

Does the Bible Tell Christians to Judge Not?

Many people conclude that making judgments on anyone (especially coming from Christians) is wrong because the Bible says ”judge not” (Matthew 7:1).

answersingenesis.org

He already did decide that.
We live in a world that increasingly strives to (supposedly) promote the idea of tolerance, but actually becomes intolerant of Christian absolutes as it does so. Whether it involves religion, behavior, or human sexuality, there is a growing anti-Christian sentiment in America and other Western nations. Ultimately, built into this “tolerance” is the concept that truth is determined by each individual, not by God. This has led many people to conclude that making judgments on anyone (especially coming from Christians) is wrong because the Bible says ”judge not” (Matthew 7:1). Interestingly enough, those who reject the notion of God or the credibility of the Bible often attempt to use God’s Word (e.g., by quoting verses out of context) to excuse their actions when they are presented with the gospel and the plight of sinners for rejecting it.
When a Christian lovingly and graciously presents the gospel to unbelievers, a judgment is made regarding their standing with God. The Bible clearly declares that all men are sinners, have fallen short of the glory of God, and are in need of redemption from their sins (Romans 3:23). This judgment is not made from the opinion of the Christian who is presenting the gospel but rather by what the Bible clearly declares.


The claim that Christians are not to judge is often made when dealing with issues such as abortion, adultery, homosexual behavior, and same-sex marriage. When a Christian says, for example, that homosexual behavior is a sin and that same-sex marriage is wrong, he or she is often met with objections like the following:

• “Who are you to judge two people who love each other?”
• “Who do you think you are, telling someone who they can and cannot love? You’re a sinner, too!”
• “Someone’s private life is none of your business. Don’t judge them.”

Some people will even quote Matthew 7:1, where Christ said during the Sermon on the Mount, “Judge not, that you be not judged.” Of course, when they quote this verse in regard to such situations, they take it out of context to support their fallacious claims. When we consider the concept of judging, especially as it relates to the Sermon on the Mount, Christ tells us to be discerning, not condemning.


There are significant logical problems with the claim that believers should not make judgments. The first becomes evident when we read the context of Matthew 7:1.

Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, “Let me remove the speck from your eye”; and look, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. (Matthew 7:1–5)

Here, Christ is warning believers against making judgments in a hypocritical or condemning manner. That type of judging is a characteristic often associated with the Pharisees during the ministry of Jesus. Many people who quote “judge not” from Matthew 7:1 fail to notice the command to judge in Matthew 7:5, when it says, “Then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.” The point Jesus emphasizes here is to judge yourself first before you make judgments about others. (Also, notice the discernment and judgment required in Matthew 7:15–16, 20.) In the broader context, Jesus is telling believers to be discerning when it comes to false teaching and false prophets because they “look” Christian, but their goal is to lead the flock astray (Matthew 7:15–20; Luke 6:43–45).

 

[Frankenstein]

Again religion is not a race so the criticizing of the behavior of religious people cannot be racist.

I don't see atheists judging people for being homosexual as much as the religious do even though the god they worship has told them not to judge others.

In my experience, religious people are the most unkind and judgmental people I have ever met.

Ok you are bigoted then!

 

[zaangalewa]

OK if no races exist than nothing can be racist yet you have called my remarks racist anyway.

Could you do yourselve the favor to try to read and to try to understand what I said to you?

 

[Frankenstein]

I did more than once as I have told you and I found nothing in it that invoked any "spirits" holy or otherwise.

Reading doesn't change you, confessing and repenting do.