Why do we die?

[Vikrant]

We die so we could either go to heaven or hell depending on how well you are connected

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We die because our cells die. During the span of our life, billions of cells die everyday and billions of cell are created everyday. The old cell undergoes division and yields new cells. There is a thing called telomere which acts as a buffer between genes. As the cells divide over the period of our lifetime, telomeres get shorter and shorter till they no longer can protect our genes. That is when we start to get hit by things like cancer, alzheimer's disease, bone decay and you get the picture.

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I have to hit the bed now but I will post in more detail tomorrow if I have time.

 

[Marvin Zinn]

Why do we die?

Because we get old.

OK, then stop growing old. Just count backwards each year.

 

[Judicial review]

Can genetics find a 'cure' for ageing and, therefore, dying, or will humans, like other organisms, always be at the mercy of nature?

Organisms grow old because nature doesn't need them any more. If the purpose of life is to procreate and replicate successfully - this is the logic of the so-called selfish gene theory - then it helps to stay healthy long enough to generate children and provide them with food. Immortality arrives with your offspring, and is only guaranteed when all your children also have children.

Why do we die Science The Guardian

We die to create more trolls like you.

 

[Mindful]

Can genetics find a 'cure' for ageing and, therefore, dying, or will humans, like other organisms, always be at the mercy of nature?

Organisms grow old because nature doesn't need them any more. If the purpose of life is to procreate and replicate successfully - this is the logic of the so-called selfish gene theory - then it helps to stay healthy long enough to generate children and provide them with food. Immortality arrives with your offspring, and is only guaranteed when all your children also have children.

Why do we die Science The Guardian

We die to create more trolls like you.

Is that a personal attack? In a non flaming area?

Cool.

 

[Judicial review]

Can genetics find a 'cure' for ageing and, therefore, dying, or will humans, like other organisms, always be at the mercy of nature?

Organisms grow old because nature doesn't need them any more. If the purpose of life is to procreate and replicate successfully - this is the logic of the so-called selfish gene theory - then it helps to stay healthy long enough to generate children and provide them with food. Immortality arrives with your offspring, and is only guaranteed when all your children also have children.

Why do we die Science The Guardian

We die to create more trolls like you.

Is that a personal attack? In a non flaming area?

Cool.

If you take that personally then you are a troll.

Let me ask you a serious question and remember I have an IQ of 140 and am a Genius - What is the purpose of this thread when it's common sense that earth has limited resources and man was created and not the creator?

 

[Mindful]

It's a scientific based thread. Have you any idea what that means?

How big are your pupils right now?

 

[Judicial review]

It's a scientific based thread. Have you any idea what that means?

How big are your pupils right now?

Answer my question.

 

[Gracie]

Can genetics find a 'cure' for ageing and, therefore, dying, or will humans, like other organisms, always be at the mercy of nature?

Organisms grow old because nature doesn't need them any more. If the purpose of life is to procreate and replicate successfully - this is the logic of the so-called selfish gene theory - then it helps to stay healthy long enough to generate children and provide them with food. Immortality arrives with your offspring, and is only guaranteed when all your children also have children.

Why do we die Science The Guardian

Who wants to live forever???

 

[Judicial review]

Can genetics find a 'cure' for ageing and, therefore, dying, or will humans, like other organisms, always be at the mercy of nature?

Organisms grow old because nature doesn't need them any more. If the purpose of life is to procreate and replicate successfully - this is the logic of the so-called selfish gene theory - then it helps to stay healthy long enough to generate children and provide them with food. Immortality arrives with your offspring, and is only guaranteed when all your children also have children.

Why do we die Science The Guardian

Who wants to live forever???

If I could fly and had super human strength with x-ray vision and never grow old I would.

 

[Mindful]

It's a scientific based thread. Have you any idea what that means?

How big are your pupils right now?

Answer my question.

............

 

[Mindful]

Can genetics find a 'cure' for ageing and, therefore, dying, or will humans, like other organisms, always be at the mercy of nature?

Organisms grow old because nature doesn't need them any more. If the purpose of life is to procreate and replicate successfully - this is the logic of the so-called selfish gene theory - then it helps to stay healthy long enough to generate children and provide them with food. Immortality arrives with your offspring, and is only guaranteed when all your children also have children.

Why do we die Science The Guardian

Who wants to live forever???

That's another discussion. Perhaps in philosophy.

 

[Judicial review]

It's a scientific based thread. Have you any idea what that means?

How big are your pupils right now?

Answer my question.

............

Science always starts with a theory, then it's up to the scientist form a hypothesis, then hopeful prove it. This Theory is so stupid and pointless it's not meaningful enough to have a hypothesis let alone conclusion. I proved that by simply saying 2 facts,

Earth has limited resources

AND

Humans were created not the creator. FYI, this isn't a philosophical conclusion this is a both a scientific one that we all agree on both science and religious people.

Conclusion = This thread is the biggest waste of time on here and it doesn't take a genius like me with an IQ of 140 to figure that out. Took me 5 seconds.

 

[Mindful]

It's a scientific based thread. Have you any idea what that means?

How big are your pupils right now?

Answer my question.

............

Science always starts with a theory, then it's up to the scientist form a hypothesis, then hopeful prove it. This Theory is so stupid and pointless it's not meaningful enough to have a hypothesis let alone conclusion. I proved that by simply saying 2 facts,

Earth has limited resources

AND

Humans were created not the creator. FYI, this isn't a philosophical conclusion this is a both a scientific one that we all agree on both science and religious people.

Conclusion = This thread is the biggest waste of time on here and it doesn't take a genius like me with an IQ of 140 to figure that out. Took me 5 seconds.

lol. You've wasted more time than anyone here on it.

 

[Vikrant]

This is a very good thread actually. It actually aims to discuss something which involves science. So I am going to expand further on my previous post. Our DNA exists in what is called double helical structure. This essentially means that a pair of chromosomes are intertwined. See the image below:

During cell division cycle, chromosomes get unpaired. These individual chromosomes then get divided to form a new double helical DNA. Telomeres as you can see in the above image act as a buffer between two genes and thus protect our genes from getting damaged during cell division cycle. But as we age, the telomeres get shorter and shorter till they are gone and are no longer there to protect our genes during cell division cycle. This results in our genes getting damaged as we grow older and leads to diseases. But multicellular organisms have somewhat protective mechanism against it. For example in humans the cell division halts after 52 divisions. This defends us against our DNA going haywire. However, there is presence of an enzyme called telomerase among cancerous cells. This enzyme repairs the telomere and cell divison never halts which causes cancerous growth. This is a major focus among those who are researching treatment for cancer.

 

[Mindful]

This is a very good thread actually. It actually aims to discuss something which involves science. So I am going to expand further on my previous post. Our DNA exists in what is called double helical structure. This essentially means that a pair of chromosomes are intertwined. See the image below:

During cell division cycle, chromosomes get unpaired. These individual chromosomes then get divided to form a new double helical DNA. Telomeres as you can see in the above image act as a buffer between two genes and thus protect our genes from getting damaged during cell division cycle. But as we age, the telomeres get shorter and shorter till they are gone and are no longer there to protect our genes during cell division cycle. This results in our genes getting damaged as we grow older and leads to diseases. But multicellular organisms have somewhat protective mechanism against it. For example in humans the cell division halts after 52 divisions. This defends us against our DNA going haywire. However, there is presence of an enzyme called telomerase among cancerous cells. This enzyme repairs the telomere and cell divison never halts which causes cancerous growth. This is a major focus among those who are researching treatment for cancer.

I was interested in the scientific approach. That's why I posted it in this section.

With an ever increasing ageing population, and the economic need to work into old age, scientists will have to come up with something to offset the ravages of age.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Can genetics find a 'cure' for ageing and, therefore, dying, or will humans, like other organisms, always be at the mercy of nature?

Organisms grow old because nature doesn't need them any more. If the purpose of life is to procreate and replicate successfully - this is the logic of the so-called selfish gene theory - then it helps to stay healthy long enough to generate children and provide them with food. Immortality arrives with your offspring, and is only guaranteed when all your children also have children.

Why do we die Science The Guardian

"Everything that is, eventually isn't." Me.

Nothing in the universe lasts forever. Everything dies or ends at some point. I find this comforting in accepting my own eventual death - it's normal and by design. We're not supposed to last forever. We fight one another enough as it is living about 75 years. If we lasted twice as long, we'd likely fight each other over finite resources even more.

Can genetics help us live longer? No. Can help our offspring though. Can't probably do much for someone already born with their genes set and doing what they're supposed to be doing. Should we be looking into it? Maybe. Eventually we have to get out into space. And getting to another star system within our existing lifetimes isn't possible right now. If we lived a lot longer, that would help but only with lots of other things helping. Geneticly engineered human beings designed to do well in microgravity enviroments and endure more radiation would be something to look into.

 

[Jackinthebox]

Can genetics find a 'cure' for ageing and, therefore, dying, or will humans, like other organisms, always be at the mercy of nature?

Organisms grow old because nature doesn't need them any more. If the purpose of life is to procreate and replicate successfully - this is the logic of the so-called selfish gene theory - then it helps to stay healthy long enough to generate children and provide them with food. Immortality arrives with your offspring, and is only guaranteed when all your children also have children.

Why do we die Science The Guardian

If we didn't die, you would soon go insane with the monotony of life as time speeds up. By 2 or 300 years old, all you would be doing is clipping your nails and cutting your hair constantly.

 

[Mindful]

Can genetics find a 'cure' for ageing and, therefore, dying, or will humans, like other organisms, always be at the mercy of nature?

Organisms grow old because nature doesn't need them any more. If the purpose of life is to procreate and replicate successfully - this is the logic of the so-called selfish gene theory - then it helps to stay healthy long enough to generate children and provide them with food. Immortality arrives with your offspring, and is only guaranteed when all your children also have children.

Why do we die Science The Guardian

If we didn't die, you would soon go insane with the monotony of life as time speeds up. By 2 or 300 years old, all you would be doing is clipping your nails and cutting your hair constantly.

You could be right. It's like a treadmill isn't it?

I wonder what comes after. And what was the point.

 

[Jackinthebox]

Can genetics find a 'cure' for ageing and, therefore, dying, or will humans, like other organisms, always be at the mercy of nature?

Organisms grow old because nature doesn't need them any more. If the purpose of life is to procreate and replicate successfully - this is the logic of the so-called selfish gene theory - then it helps to stay healthy long enough to generate children and provide them with food. Immortality arrives with your offspring, and is only guaranteed when all your children also have children.

Why do we die Science The Guardian

If we didn't die, you would soon go insane with the monotony of life as time speeds up. By 2 or 300 years old, all you would be doing is clipping your nails and cutting your hair constantly.

You could be right. It's like a treadmill isn't it?

I wonder what comes after. And what was the point.

Life speeds up, that's a fact. No wonder old people go bat shit.

 

[Marvin Zinn]

Good description! Most of us are rushing to death . . . in the wrong direction.

marvin