Why Do Trump Supporters Have Such A Hard Time Admitting He's A Convicted Felon?

[WorldWatcher]

One of the crimes? So it was not the named crime. And the jury did not need to be unanimous on the underlying crime.

I am, you are the one lying.

In any case, this is why he was falsely convicted.

The names crime was falsification of business records as a felony.

The underlying motivation was to hide Cohen’s crime.
M yes the jury needed to be subs were unanimous on the names crime. They were free to view the motivation as they wished.

Not lying try reviewing the court documents,

It was a good conviction.

WW

 

[westwall]

There were two crimes Cohen's federal campiagn finance fraud and Trump's felony falsification of business records.

Denying it doesn't change reality.



No he was convicted of a felony.



Felony SOL had not run out, this was litigated.



#1 "underlying crime" not "underlying felony".

#2 But regardless, there was an underlying felony - Cohen's. The underlying crime supporting felonly falsefication of business record to hide a crime, can be a crime committed by others.



Yes, it was Cohen was charged and convicted.



These are not "my claims", they are the fact of the legal cases that have proceeded through the courts.

WW

Cite the EXACT Penal Code felony that Trump was charged with.

GO!

 

[WorldWatcher]

Cite the EXACT Penal Code felony that Trump was charged with.

GO!

Go look if up yourself it’s in the indictment.

34 times.

I see we are at the gaslighting stage where deniers try to obfuscate.

Not playing.

WW

 

[westwall]

Go look if up yourself it’s in the indictment.

34 times.

I see we are at the gaslighting stage where deniers try to obfuscate.

Not playing.

WW

No. That's the point. There is NONE cited.

Try again.

 

[WorldWatcher]

No. That's the point. There is NONE cited.

Try again.

The specific statute under which Trump was charged is in fact in the indictment.

WW

 

[Rawley]

Welp, I can see you are disassociated with reality. When you get to the point where you call charges and conviction "fake" because you can't accept that Cohen committed a crime and that Trump was convicted of attempting to hide that crime by through his actions (for which he was charged and convicted by a jury of 34 counts), there is not much I can do to help.

Have a nice day.

WW

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Funny thing is, that is one of Trump's best arguments on appeal.

 

[wamose]

Bringing up stale old shit like this is our Democrats way of drawing attention away from their lawlessness, sedition and robbery in Minnesota and around the country. It's an old socialist-communist trick.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Funny thing is, that is one of Trump's best arguments on appeal.

: shrug :

We’ll see.

But to note, he has not appealed on the merits of the case and that he didn’t commit the crime. He’s appealing based on b technicalities to over turn the conviction.

WW

 

[westwall]

The specific statute under which Trump was charged is in fact in the indictment.

WW

It is in fact, NOT in the indictment. Furthermore that corrupt piece of shit marchan allowed the jury to convict EVEN IF THEY COULDN'T REACH A UNANIMOUS DECISION ON THE UNDERLYING FELONY.

That is the first time in American history that such an abomination was allowed.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The specific statute under which Trump was charged is in fact in the indictment.

WW

Donald Trump is guilty of repeatedly and fraudulently falsifying business records in a scheme to conceal damaging information from American voters during the 2016 presidential election.

It's not a crime to conceal damaging information.

Cohen and TRUMP, knowing how devasting Daniels’ story would be to the campaign, agreed to buy her story to defraud the voting public and prevent them from learning the information before Election Day.

Paying off Daniels doesn't defraud the voting public and isn't a crime.

Concealing a non-crime isn't a crime either.

D.A. Bragg Announces 34-Count Felony Trial Conviction of Donald J. Trump

“Donald Trump is guilty of repeatedly and fraudulently falsifying business records in a scheme to conceal damaging information from American voters during the 2016 presidential election. Over the course of the past several weeks, a jury of 12 every day New Yorkers was presented with overwhelming evi

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[Delldude]

: shrug :

We’ll see.

But to note, he has not appealed on the merits of the case and that he didn’t commit the crime. He’s appealing based on b technicalities to over turn the conviction.

WW

The technicalities are based on how they came up with the 'merits' of the case.

 

[Rawley]

: shrug :

We’ll see.

But to note, he has not appealed on the merits of the case and that he didn’t commit the crime.

No idea what that means. THey are arguing what he did was not a crime.

"Targeting alleged conduct that has never been found to violate any New York law, the DA concocted a purported felony by stacking time-barred misdemeanors under a convoluted legal theory, which the DA then improperly obscured until the charge conference. This case should never have seen the inside of a courtroom, let alone resulted in a conviction,"

He’s appealing based on b technicalities to over turn the conviction.

WW

That too.

No question the convictions will be overturned.

 

[WorldWatcher]

It is in fact, NOT in the indictment. Furthermore that corrupt piece of shit marchan allowed the jury to convict EVEN IF THEY COULDN'T REACH A UNANIMOUS DECISION ON THE UNDERLYING FELONY.

That is the first time in American history that such an abomination was allowed.

Yes the statutes under which Trump was charged are in the indictment. That’s what an indictment is.

There is no requirement that the jury be unanimous on the underlying qualifying motivations.

WW

 

[westwall]

Yes the statutes under which Trump was charged are in the indictment. That’s what an indictment is.

There is no requirement that the jury be unanimous on the underlying qualifying motivations.

WW

THEN CITE THEM!

 

[WorldWatcher]

THEN CITE THEM!

Read the court documents.

I did.

Not up for you gaslighting.

WW

 

[westwall]

Read the court documents.

I did.

Not up for you gaslighting.

WW

You're the person gaslighting.

CITE THE PENAL CODE VIOLATION. NOT WORDS, BUT THE ACTUAL PENAL CODE.

GO!

 

[Eman623]

The names crime was falsification of business records as a felony.

More lies. The key was not instructed to use that crime. They were free to invent any crime their Trump hating hearts desired. And they did not have to disclose even that much.

Why won't you admit that?

It was a bullshit conviction.

 

[westwall]

More lies. The key was not instructed to use that crime. They were free to invent any crime their Trump hating hearts desired. And they did not have to disclose even that much.

Why won't you admit that?

It was a bullshit conviction.

Because WW is a gaslighter and bullshitter extraordinaire.

 

[WorldWatcher]

You're the person gaslighting.

CITE THE PENAL CODE VIOLATION. NOT WORDS, BUT THE ACTUAL PENAL CODE.

GO!

Lookup the criminal statute yourself up on the indictment.

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

More lies. The key was not instructed to use that crime. They were free to invent any crime their Trump hating hearts desired. And they did not have to disclose even that much.

Why won't you admit that?

It was a bullshit conviction.

That is a lie.

The statute was in the indictment and the Judges instructions were very clear that the jury must return a unanimous verdict on the felony falsification of business records. They were not required to all agress on the underelying motivational crime, because that crime went to motive.

Let's us a hypotetical example. A husband is married to his wife. The husbands business is struggling. He has a life insurance policy worth millions. In addition the husband finds out that his wife is having an affair with the pool girl.

Conclusive evidence is presented at trial that the husband killed his wife. The prosecution presents evidence toward motivation. Both money and the affair. The jurors are required agree on the murder, they are not required to agree on motive. Some could believe it was for money. Some could believe it was for the affair. Some could believe it was both. They can still return a verdict on the action of murder.

WW