Why do Trans and non binary people threaten you so much ?

Real gender dysphoria starts during early childhood, anything else is peer pressure or a fetish.

Not sure I would agree.
The physical development is before childhood, in the womb, and mental sexual orientation happens after puberty, which is sort of after childhood it would seem to me?
 
I dispute the claim that the surgery does nay good at all.

A man who has had surgery to make him look more like a woman is not a woman. He's still a man, albeit a mutilated, dysfunctional version thereof.

There is no technology that now exists, nor that can reasonably be anticipated to exist any time in the foreseeable future, that can genuinely turn a man into a woman. To promote such quasi-medical Frankensteinery as any kind of valid solution is as mad as the mental disease which it seeks to address.

Sorry, but you are wrong.

The XX is normally a woman and XY a man.
But the Y chromosome is so dysfunctional, that in some very few people, the part of the Y chromosome that creates the penis, has broken off and become attached to to the X chromosome instead.
When that happens, if the person has a daughter, they can be born with a penis, even though still XX.
So you simply are wrong to claim there no additional combinations to consider.
It is not just binary.

And it can also go the other way, where the chromosomes get over ridden by illness, pesticides or something causing a huge hormone imbalance.
The chromosomes may say one sex, but the hormones can completely over ride that.

There is no exact way of ever knowing.
 
Sorry, but you are wrong.

The XX is normally a woman and XY a man.
But the Y chromosome is so dysfunctional, that in some very few people, the part of the Y chromosome that creates the penis, has broken off and become attached to to the X chromosome instead.
When that happens, if the person has a daughter, they can be born with a penis, even though still XX.
So you simply are wrong to claim there no additional combinations to consider.
It is not just binary.

And it can also go the other way, where the chromosomes get over ridden by illness, pesticides or something causing a huge hormone imbalance.
The chromosomes may say one sex, but the hormones can completely over ride that.

There is no exact way of ever knowing.

:cuckoo:
 

Wrong.
Read up.

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The most common cause of sex chromosome aneuploidies is nondisjunction, which can occur during meiosis or during the early stages of postzygotic development. The loss or gain of genetic material can affect all daughter cells or it may be partial, leading to tissue mosaicism. In both typical and atypical sex chromosome karyotypes, there is random inactivation of all but one X chromosome.
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Sex chromosome aneuploidies are associated with several NDDs. Mild to moderate decreases in general cognitive abilities have been reported in XO, XXX, XXY, XYY, and XXYY populations (Lee et al., 2012; Printzlau et al., 2017). Social-communication deficits have been identified in all sex chromosome aneuploidies, with 20% of XO girls (Wolstencroft et al., 2018), 10% of XXY boys, 38% of XYY boys, and 52% of XXYY boys meeting criteria for an ASD (Tartaglia et al., 2017). ADHD is also relatively common and occurs in 24% of XO girls (Russell et al., 2006), 52% of XXX girls, 36% of XXY boys, 76% of XYY boys, and 72% of XXYY boys (Tartaglia et al., 2012). These observations show an important dosage-dependent role for both the X and Y chromosomes in NDDs and suggest that boys may be more vulnerable to NDDs partly because of their Y chromosome or their lack of a second X chromosome.
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I dispute the claim that the surgery does nay good at all.

A man who has had surgery to make him look more like a woman is not a woman. He's still a man, albeit a mutilated, dysfunctional version thereof.

There is no technology that now exists, nor that can reasonably be anticipated to exist any time in the foreseeable future, that can genuinely turn a man into a woman. To promote such quasi-medical Frankensteinery as any kind of valid solution is as mad as the mental disease which it seeks to address.

For some it works, for others it doesn't, but in the end all it does is give the illusion of being the other gender.
 
I dispute the claim that the surgery does any good at all.
For some it works, for others it doesn't, but in the end all it does is give the illusion of being the other gender.

In the end, a mentally-defective man who thinks he's a woman, and who has had surgery to reinforce this delusion, is even more fucked up than if he hadn't had that surgery. He is still not a woman, and mind is still just as fucked up as before; now his body is irreversibly fucked up as well.
 
In the end, a mentally-defective man who thinks he's a woman, and who has had surgery to reinforce this delusion, is even more fucked up than if he hadn't had that surgery. He is still not a woman, and mind is still just as fucked up as before; now his body is irreversibly fucked up as well.

It's not a perfect solution, but it does help some of them. The problem starts when it becomes a first option instead of a last option.

Most current trans types aren't really suffering from true gender dysphoria, most of them just are fetishists.
 
It's not a perfect solution, but it does help some of them.

It is not any solution.

And thinking that it helps anyone by fucking up their bodies to match their fucked-up minds is as insane as the madness that it intends to treat.

I see you as someone who is still mostly hanging on to sanity, but that you would defend this practice only shows tha in spite of your best efforts, some of the madness has already poisoned you. If you allow that to take root, then it will only get worse for you.
 
It is not any solution.

And thinking that it helps anyone by fucking up their bodies to match their fucked-up minds is as insane as the madness that it intends to treat.

I see you as someone who is still mostly hanging on to sanity, but that you would defend this practice only shows tha in spite of your best efforts, some of the madness has already poisoned you. If you allow that to take root, then it will only get worse for you.

It's a last resort than can help some people, the issue is it's been turned into a first resort.

What do I care if some over 18 idiot wants to cut his wang off to feel better after exhausting all other options?

It's when its done to kids or foisted as a true fix and a first resort that I have an issue.

Absolutism is the easy bulwark of the stubborn and foolish.
 
It's a last resort than can help some people, the issue is it's been turned into a first resort.

What do I care if some over 18 idiot wants to cut his wang off to feel better after exhausting all other options?

It's when its done to kids or foisted as a true fix and a first resort that I have an issue.

Absolutism is the easy bulwark of the stubborn and foolish.

It's disturbing that you are allowing your mind to be poisoned, even to this degree, by this madness.

It is one thing to argue for a freak's right to mutilate his body, but something else entirely to argue that such mutilation is, in any way, a valid treatment or mitigation for a severe mental illness.

Some truths really are absolute.
 
OK then

You have your three year old daughter at the grocery store and she needs to pee
Do you bring her into the men’s room or ladies room?

If you take her to the ladies room, you will be the creep in the stall next to ladies peeing

If you take her to the men’s room, she will be peeing in a stall next to men
While you are there with her. Don't you understand anything?
 

This seems to be one of the big issues of the day and I must admit that it doesnt make any sense to me. Freedom is all about being to live your own life in your own way. It doesnt belong to anybody else.

I have seen some pretty nasty stuff online and I wonder where it comes from.
It is mostly due to "biological men" winning biological women sports. Celebrate your chemical imbalance anyway you want to outside of sports. Men calling themselves women in sports events is wrong. It is comparable to allowing a motorcycle entry in a bicycle race
 
It's disturbing that you are allowing your mind to be poisoned, even to this degree, by this madness.

It is one thing to argue for a freak's right to mutilate his body, but something else entirely to argue that such mutilation is, in any way, a valid treatment or mitigation for a severe mental illness.

Some truths really are absolute.

As a last resort, it probably is.

Most things are relative, especially when it involves illnesses of the human mind.
 
It is mostly due to "biological men" winning biological women sports. Celebrate your chemical imbalance anyway you want to outside of sports. Men calling themselves women in sports events is wrong. It is comparable to allowing a motorcycle entry in a bicycle race
That s hardly a major issue and in fact it is an issue that sports authorities are looking at to ensure fairness.
 
That s hardly a major issue and in fact it is an issue that sports authorities are looking at to ensure fairness.
not around here so far, we have several TG men winning women sports events especially in swimming
 

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