Why do they fall for it so willingly?

[berg80]

I know the answer....

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/15/politics/john-durham-report-fbi-trump-released/index.html

Of course he did. That is what Billy the Bagman assigned him to conclude regardless of the facts. He had to come up with something after his entire investigation became a colossal face plant.

Have you read this yet?

It is a bit of a mug’s game at this point to fight over whether what either Mueller or the Intelligence Committee found constitutes collusion and, if so, in what sense. The question turns almost entirely on what one means by the term “collusion”—a word without any precise meaning in the context of campaign engagement with foreign actors interfering with an election.

So rather than engaging over whether the Intelligence Committee found collusion, we decided to read the document with a focus on identifying precisely what the committee found about the engagement over a long period of time between Trump and his campaign and Russian government or intelligence actors and their cut-outs.

Whether one describes this activity as collusion or not, there’s a lot of it: The report describes hundreds of actions by Trump, his campaign, and his associates in the run-up to the 2016 election that involve some degree of participation by Trump or his associates in Russian activity. In this post—which we are generating serially as we read through the document—we attempt to summarize, precisely and comprehensively, what the eight Republicans on the committee, along with their seven Democratic colleagues, report that the president, members of his campaign and his associates actually did.

A Collusion Reading Diary: What Did the Senate Intelligence Committee Find?

Our summary of the Senate Intelligence Committee’s final report on Russian interference in the 2016 election.

www.lawfaremedia.org

 

[rampart]

Did you ever consider the D.C. Swamp is corrupt and Trump has threatened to drain it.

The political establishment has no control over Trump and he scares the hell out of them. Therefore they try to bankrupt Trump and often anyone who agrees to work for him by forcing them to pay a fortune in attorney fees. That should convince any common person and even millionaires and billionaires that running for political office might be a really bad idea.

I have often said that if you have a little charisma, can make a speech and are a little dishonest — there are two professions you should consider that will enable you to be rich beyond belief. One is a televangelist and the other is a politician, especially one at the national level. Now not ALL televangelists and politicians are corrupt but a significant percentage are.

trump sure talks about draining the swamp.

replacing the alligators with his own slimy in laws.

 

[berg80]

The usual conspiracy theory of the woke.

That the DIE hire flunkies need to amemd laws to specifically target an individual. That suggests the Dem / Socialist Jihad is an integral part of their politico-religious ideology.

The question you need to be asking yourself is..............."how did Dem/Socialist corruption become so pervasive that the woke'sters are reduced to sniveling, malevolent cowards?"

I have to say I'm growing tired of your empty rhetoric. Where's the beef?

 

[SeaMajor7]

I have to say I'm growing tired of your empty rhetoric. Where's the beef?

We're ALL tired of your constant stream of GASLIGHT THEATRE that you spew here every fucking day.

 

[berg80]

The usual conspiracy theory of the woke.

That the DIE hire flunkies need to amemd laws to specifically target an individual. That suggests the Dem / Socialist Jihad is an integral part of their politico-religious ideology.

The question you need to be asking yourself is..............."how did Dem/Socialist corruption become so pervasive that the woke'sters are reduced to sniveling, malevolent cowards?"

Consider how apoplectic you'd be if Joe Biden's campaign manager had at one time carried out influence operations on behalf of Russian interests.

The first section of the report concerns Paul Manafort, Trump’s one-time campaign chairman who resigned from the campaign in August 2016 following news reports of his previous work for a pro-Russian Ukrainian political party. Manafort was indicted in October 2017 in the course of the Mueller investigation and was eventually convicted of, and pleaded guilty to, charges including bank and tax fraud. Manafort’s business associate Rick Gates, who served on the Trump transition team, also pleaded guilty to fraud charges. Much of the Senate report’s information on Manafort echoes the Mueller report’s conclusions, but the Intelligence Committee is far more aggressive in its description of the counterintelligence threats posed by Manafort’s involvement with the campaign.

“Manafort had direct access to Trump and his Campaign’s senior officials, strategies, and information,” the committee notes, as did Gates—and “Manafort, often with the assistance of Gates, engaged with individuals inside Russia and Ukraine on matters pertaining both to his personal business prospects and the 2016 U.S. election.”

The report provides a brief overview of Manafort’s “connections to Russia and Ukraine,” which date to “approximately 2004.” In brief, Manafort began work then for the Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska and pro-Russian oligarchs in Ukraine, which eventually led to his role in engineering the 2010 election to the Ukrainian presidency of pro-Russian candidate Viktor Yanukovych. While the Mueller report described Deripaska as “closely aligned with Vladimir Putin,” the committee’s report is much more direct: “The Russian government,” the committee writes, “coordinates with and directs Deripaska” in conducting influence operations, with which Manafort also assisted. At another point, the committee states that “Manafort’s influence work for Deripaska was, in effect, influence work for the Russian government and its interests.”

In other words, as a baseline matter, the Trump campaign was—for a time—run by a man who himself had carried out influence operations on behalf of Russian interests.

It gets worse, however.

 

[Hollie]

I have to say I'm growing tired of your empty rhetoric. Where's the beef?

I have to acknowledge your saiiva-slinging tirades consisting of predictable pablum of woke clichés and slogans is a waste of bandwidth.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Consider how apoplectic you'd be if Joe Biden's campaign manager had at one time been
run by a man who himself had carried out influence operations on behalf of Russian interests.

The first section of the report concerns Paul Manafort, Trump’s one-time campaign chairman who resigned from the campaign in August 2016 following news reports of his previous work for a pro-Russian Ukrainian political party. Manafort was indicted in October 2017 in the course of the Mueller investigation and was eventually convicted of, and pleaded guilty to, charges including bank and tax fraud. Manafort’s business associate Rick Gates, who served on the Trump transition team, also pleaded guilty to fraud charges. Much of the Senate report’s information on Manafort echoes the Mueller report’s conclusions, but the Intelligence Committee is far more aggressive in its description of the counterintelligence threats posed by Manafort’s involvement with the campaign.

“Manafort had direct access to Trump and his Campaign’s senior officials, strategies, and information,” the committee notes, as did Gates—and “Manafort, often with the assistance of Gates, engaged with individuals inside Russia and Ukraine on matters pertaining both to his personal business prospects and the 2016 U.S. election.”

The report provides a brief overview of Manafort’s “connections to Russia and Ukraine,” which date to “approximately 2004.” In brief, Manafort began work then for the Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska and pro-Russian oligarchs in Ukraine, which eventually led to his role in engineering the 2010 election to the Ukrainian presidency of pro-Russian candidate Viktor Yanukovych. While the Mueller report described Deripaska as “closely aligned with Vladimir Putin,” the committee’s report is much more direct: “The Russian government,” the committee writes, “coordinates with and directs Deripaska” in conducting influence operations, with which Manafort also assisted. At another point, the committee states that “Manafort’s influence work for Deripaska was, in effect, influence work for the Russian government and its interests.”

In other words, as a baseline matter, the Trump campaign was—for a time—run by a man who himself had carried out influence operations on behalf of Russian interests.

It gets worse, however.

More COPY/PASTE bullshit from the MSM Ministry of Truth.

 

[berg80]

I have to acknowledge your saiiva-slinging tirades consisting of predictable pablum of woke clichés and slogans is a waste of bandwidth.

Manafort’s work in Ukraine and with Deripaska also led him to have a long-term business relationship with a man named Konstantin Kilimnik, the report states, who “became an integral part” of Manafort’s business. Kilimnik is no stranger to those who have followed L’Affaire Russe. The Mueller report had reported that “[t]he FBI assesses that Kilimnik has ties to Russian intelligence.”

But here again, the Senate report goes much further, bluntly stating that “Kilimnik is a Russian intelligence officer.” What’s more, Manafort was likely aware of this fact, the committee states: In a footnote, the committee states that “Manafort … at some point harbored suspicions that Kilimnik had ties to intelligence services. Manafort was undeniably aware—often from first-hand experience—of suspicious aspects of Kilimnik’s behavior and network. Nevertheless, Manafort later asserted to [Mueller’s team] that Kilimnik was not a spy.”

As the Senate writes, Manafort’s work for the Trump campaign took place in the wake of a business dispute between Manafort and Deripaska involving money owed to Deripaska by Manafort, as well as a separate dispute involving money Manafort felt he was owed by other clients, pro-Russian Ukrainian oligarchs. The report states that Manafort “was actively seeking a position on the Trump campaign” in January 2016 on the grounds that it would help iron out his financial disputes with Deripaska and the Ukrainian oligarchs. Trump associate Roger Stone reached out directly to Trump and helped Manafort lobby for that role, the committee writes. According to Trump associate Tom Barrack, Manafort’s willingness to work for free was central to his getting the job of chairman—and, the Senate writes, Manafort was hired without the campaign conducting any vetting, “including of his financial situation or vulnerability to foreign influence."

 

[Hollie]

Consider how apoplectic you'd be if Joe Biden's campaign manager had at one time carried out influence operations on behalf of Russian interests.

The first section of the report concerns Paul Manafort, Trump’s one-time campaign chairman who resigned from the campaign in August 2016 following news reports of his previous work for a pro-Russian Ukrainian political party. Manafort was indicted in October 2017 in the course of the Mueller investigation and was eventually convicted of, and pleaded guilty to, charges including bank and tax fraud. Manafort’s business associate Rick Gates, who served on the Trump transition team, also pleaded guilty to fraud charges. Much of the Senate report’s information on Manafort echoes the Mueller report’s conclusions, but the Intelligence Committee is far more aggressive in its description of the counterintelligence threats posed by Manafort’s involvement with the campaign.

“Manafort had direct access to Trump and his Campaign’s senior officials, strategies, and information,” the committee notes, as did Gates—and “Manafort, often with the assistance of Gates, engaged with individuals inside Russia and Ukraine on matters pertaining both to his personal business prospects and the 2016 U.S. election.”

The report provides a brief overview of Manafort’s “connections to Russia and Ukraine,” which date to “approximately 2004.” In brief, Manafort began work then for the Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska and pro-Russian oligarchs in Ukraine, which eventually led to his role in engineering the 2010 election to the Ukrainian presidency of pro-Russian candidate Viktor Yanukovych. While the Mueller report described Deripaska as “closely aligned with Vladimir Putin,” the committee’s report is much more direct: “The Russian government,” the committee writes, “coordinates with and directs Deripaska” in conducting influence operations, with which Manafort also assisted. At another point, the committee states that “Manafort’s influence work for Deripaska was, in effect, influence work for the Russian government and its interests.”

In other words, as a baseline matter, the Trump campaign was—for a time—run by a man who himself had carried out influence operations on behalf of Russian interests.

It gets worse, however.

It's in good form to attribute the source of your cutting and pasting.

Stealing material that does little more than promote conspiracy theories is poor cricket, Laddie.

 

[SeaMajor7]

COPY/PASTE
COPY/PASTE
COPY/PASTE

 

[Mac1958]

trump sure talks about draining the swamp.

replacing the alligators with his own slimy in laws.

As long as he speaks their language, he can do anything he wants.

The trait of a successful con man.

 

[Dragonlady]

Confirming the stereotype of the woke, leftist. Hurl the Racist™ canard. It's just so predictable and the the last refuge of the ignorant, woke, self-hater.

You're the one who brought up the "DEI hires" prosecuting Trump. YOU keep talking posting about the dangers of DEI hires rebuilding the bridge. YOU bring up race and then try to run away from it.

Face it Hollie. YOU'RE the very definition of "Deplorable".

 

[berg80]

It's in good form to attribute the source of your cutting and pasting.

I already have.

 

[Hollie]

I already have.

Cutting and pasting other people's opinions is your best effort.

Super!

 

[berg80]

Confirming the stereotype of the woke, leftist. Hurl the Racist™ canard. It's just so predictable and the the last refuge of the ignorant, woke, self-hater.

Why isn't it salient to point out the racist things you write?

 

[berg80]

Cutting and pasting other people's opinions is your best effort.

Super!

Not opinions. A factual account of what the SIC found during its investigation. You know, the things you folks run away from.

 

[Hollie]

You're the one who brought up the "DEI hires" prosecuting Trump. YOU keep talking posting about the dangers of DEI hires rebuilding the bridge. YOU bring up race and then try to run away from it.

Face it Hollie. YOU'RE the very definition of "Deplorable".

I understand your feelings are hurt when facts are presented.

Face it. You're the definition of pointless.

 

[Hollie]

Not opinions. A factual account of what the SIC found during its investigation. You know, the things you folks run away from.

"Phactual" accounts from tabloid media tend to be more opinion than fact.

 

[berg80]

I understand your feelings are hurt when facts are presented.

When are you going to present some?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Why isn't it salient to point out the racist things you write?

you like every other lefty claim everything is racist. The claim is so over used and wrong it has become meaningless.