Why do the Japanese want the American military bases closed in Japan?

Why do the Japanese want the American military bases closed in Japan?​


It doesn’t matter why.

If any country wants to stand in their own and no longer expect America to provide their security… we need to pack up those bases and come home. No questions asked.

I’m looking at you, Europe!
 
All this "let them protect themselves!" stuff misses the point. We are not anywhere to "protect" other countries. We have a presence in parts of the world where WE protect OUR national interests. Everywhere, all the time. Only.
^^^
 
I am researching this very issue.
The desire among some Japanese citizens for the closure of American military bases in Japan stems from several factors:

  1. Sovereignty Concerns: Many Japanese feel that the presence of U.S. military bases undermines Japan's sovereignty. They argue that having foreign troops on their soil limits Japan's autonomy in making independent decisions regarding national security and foreign policy.
  2. Historical Context: The legacy of World War II and the subsequent U.S. occupation of Japan has left a complex relationship between the two nations. Some Japanese view the continued presence of U.S. bases as a reminder of that historical trauma.
  3. Local Issues: In areas where military bases are located, residents often express concerns about noise, pollution, and crime associated with the bases. There have been incidents involving U.S. personnel that have strained relations with local communities, prompting calls for closure or relocation.
  4. Changing Security Landscape: Some Japanese citizens and politicians argue that Japan should enhance its self-defense capabilities rather than rely on the U.S. military. They advocate for a reassessment of Japan's security strategy in light of changing geopolitical dynamics in the region.
  5. Anti-Militarism Sentiment: There is a strong anti-militarism sentiment in Japan, influenced by the post-war constitution, which renounces war. This perspective fosters opposition to foreign military presence, including that of the U.S.
  6. Political Factors: Local politicians may leverage the issue of U.S. bases to gain support from constituents who are concerned about military presence, especially in regions heavily affected by the bases.
Overall, while there is a significant segment of the population that supports the U.S. military presence for security reasons, the opposition reflects a mix of local grievances, national pride, and evolving views on Japan's role in regional security.



Looks like someone else is doing the research for you...
 
Except the exact same conditions that had been sought well before Hiroshima.

"...two days before President Roosevelt left for the Yalta conference with Churchill and Stalin in early February 1945, he was shown a forty-page memorandum drafted by General MacArthur outlining a Japanese offer for surrender almost identical with the terms subsequently concluded by his successor, President Truman. The single difference was the Japanese insistence on retention of the emperor, which was not acceptable to the American strategists at the time, though it was ultimately allowed in the final peace terms."
How many times do you need to be shown and told that retention of the emperor was nowhere in the surrender documents or even verbally agreed to. I even posted the surrender document and the emperor is not mentioned. Please stop making a fool of yourself and read the document.
 
Because MacArthur decided AFTER the surrender when he was serving as Shogun decided on his own that having the emperor as a subordinate beard would make governing Japan easier.
 
Then why did they allow the emperor to stay in power which they did, and was the only condition they’d asked for well prior to the two a-bombings?
And the emperor didn’t “stay in power”. MacArthur gelded him of any power, taking it for himself until an Americanized Diet could be created which rules Japan to this day.
 
How many times do you need to be shown and told that retention of the emperor was nowhere in the surrender documents or even verbally agreed to. I even posted the surrender document and the emperor is not mentioned. Please stop making a fool of yourself and read the document.

You're losing an argument against reality.
 
Because MacArthur decided AFTER the surrender when he was serving as Shogun decided on his own that having the emperor as a subordinate beard would make governing Japan easier.

Aw, you thought you'd look cool misusing terminology there...
 
Yup...I can't imagine a single American who would be happy with that!
We didn't bomb Pearl Harbor, either.
They did what they did. That wasn't nice.
Something that came up tonight: The late 80s Japanese takeover in America.
They bought up a lot of property, and they still own some of it.
 
We didn't bomb Pearl Harbor, either.
They did what they did. That wasn't nice.
Something that came up tonight: The late 80s Japanese takeover in America.
They bought up a lot of property, and they still own some of it.

A foreign military attacking a military base is never nice.
 
I'm sure national pride has alot to do with it. But they attacked us at pearl harbor which lead to war in the pacific. And ended with 2 nukes being dropped in anger.

I'm not sure how things have changed since then...that's one area I haven't been keeping up with. But they enjoy the security of our military and I don't believe they pay much (if anything) for it. So there are benefits as well.
We attacked Japan first.
We illegally made the 5-5-3 decree to limit their warships.
We illegally placed economic sanctions on their oil, steel, and coal.
We illegally deposed the emperor of China and they were trying to reinstall him.
 
IIRC, Japan is not allowed a military according the status of forces agreement signed after WWII. Their only defense is the Japan Self-Defense Force (JSDF) They would have to address that challenge to their security.

All countries have a right to their own military, and the US has no authority to deprive Japan of theirs.
 
A foreign military attacking a military base is never nice.

Considering Hawaii is in the middle of Japan's sphere of influence and not that of the US, the presence of Pearl Harbor was very inappropriate.
And the US committed many acts of war against Japan before Pearl Habor.
 
Seems as if our ancestors forgot what Germany did with those conditions imposed on Germany. Japan happens as you mention to have military forces.
I have only thought this out but for the moment, Japan seems to me not to be like they were when Japan invaded China. That the were so demolished by WW2. that peace to them is a sweet deal. America on the other hand is apparently very willing to wage wars.

For instance me. My bitch with Biden over his war in Ukraine is he is a lousy commander. He could have helped Ukraine a hell of a lot and got this over very fast. And he fucked the pooch.

Japan never "invaded China".
The US illegally deposed the emperor of China and Japan was trying to reinstate him.

The US was guilty of almost every war since we existed.
We started the wars with the natives, the Mexicans, the Spanish, we were on the evil side in WWI and WWII, we tried to install puppet dictators in China, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, the Ukraine, Syria, etc.
 
Japan never "invaded China".
The US illegally deposed the emperor of China and Japan was trying to reinstate him.

The US was guilty of almost every war since we existed.
We started the wars with the natives, the Mexicans, the Spanish, we were on the evil side in WWI and WWII, we tried to install puppet dictators in China, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, the Ukraine, Syria, etc.

Is there a "super fake news" icon? ^^^ :rolleyes:
 
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