Why do the Japanese want the American military bases closed in Japan?

[Soupnazi630]

Japan never "invaded China".
The US illegally deposed the emperor of China and Japan was trying to reinstate him.

The US was guilty of almost every war since we existed.
We started the wars with the natives, the Mexicans, the Spanish, we were on the evil side in WWI and WWII, we tried to install puppet dictators in China, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, the Ukraine, Syria, etc.

Wrong Japan invaded China. The chinese deposed their own emporer and the Japanese had no wish to reinstate him

The US has started no wars other than Iraq.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Considering Hawaii is in the middle of Japan's sphere of influence and not that of the US, the presence of Pearl Harbor was very inappropriate.
And the US committed many acts of war against Japan before Pearl Habor.

The IS commited NO such act of war and Hawaii was NEVER in the Japanese sphere of influence

You are a known and proven liar

 

[Soupnazi630]

We attacked Japan first.
We illegally made the 5-5-3 decree to limit their warships.
We illegally placed economic sanctions on their oil, steel, and coal.
We illegally deposed the emperor of China and they were trying to reinstall him.

We did not attack them first

We made no sucb decree. They agreed to a treaty

Tgose sanctions were legal and we deposed no emporer. They did not try to reinstalll an emporer

 

[Robert W]

Japan never "invaded China".
The US illegally deposed the emperor of China and Japan was trying to reinstate him.

The US was guilty of almost every war since we existed.
We started the wars with the natives, the Mexicans, the Spanish, we were on the evil side in WWI and WWII, we tried to install puppet dictators in China, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, the Ukraine, Syria, etc.

You admit Japan invaded China. "Japan was trying"

 

[AZrailwhale]

You're losing an argument against reality.

What can be more real than the actual surrender documents? THEY SAY UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. Retaining the emperor IS A CONDITION.

 

[AZrailwhale]

We attacked Japan first.
We illegally made the 5-5-3 decree to limit their warships.
We illegally placed economic sanctions on their oil, steel, and coal.
We illegally deposed the emperor of China and they were trying to reinstall him.

Three wrongs don't make a right.
1. The Japanese chose to join the negotions that resulted in their being granted three fifths of the naval strength of the USN and RN.

2. Any nation can choose whom to and not to trade with. Trade sanctions are not illegal.

3. We were NOT dictating to the Chinese. The Japanese were trying to install a governor in China, they had no intention of making China independent of Japan. We were sending them aid in their fight to repel the Japanese invasion.

 

[AZrailwhale]

All countries have a right to their own military, and the US has no authority to deprive Japan of theirs.

We don't deprive Japan of a military. Japan's Constitution does that and they are in the process of amending that document.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Considering Hawaii is in the middle of Japan's sphere of influence and not that of the US, the presence of Pearl Harbor was very inappropriate.
And the US committed many acts of war against Japan before Pearl Habor.

Prior to joining the Triple Entante in WWI, Japan's sphere of influence was Korea which Japan conquered in 1910. After WWI, Japan was awarded the German colonies in the Marianas Islands. Hawaii was never in any way part of an imaginary Japanese sphere of influence. That would be like claiming that Iwo Jima or Okinawa were part of the American sphere of influence in 1941.

 

[Unkotare]

What can be more real than the actual surrender documents? ...

What actually happened is much more real.

 

[AZrailwhale]

What actually happened is much more real.

What MacArthur allowed was NOT part of the surrender, it was an act of convenience. It made his job easier. You keep claiming retaining the emperor was part of the surrender documents, SHOW US WHERE. Link to it or copy and paste it here.

 

[Unkotare]

What MacArthur allowed was NOT part of the surrender, it was an act of convenience. It made his job easier. You keep claiming retaining the emperor was part of the surrender documents, SHOW US WHERE. Link to it or copy and paste it here.

I never said anything about "documents." Let it go. What really happened is what really happened.

 

[AZrailwhale]

I never said anything about "documents." Let it go. What really happened is what really happened.

The documents are all that matter. Go into court some time and try to tell the judge that the cop told you he wasn’t going to file charges so the charges should be dropped.

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

I am researching this very issue.
The desire among some Japanese citizens for the closure of American military bases in Japan stems from several factors:

1. Sovereignty Concerns: Many Japanese feel that the presence of U.S. military bases undermines Japan's sovereignty. They argue that having foreign troops on their soil limits Japan's autonomy in making independent decisions regarding national security and foreign policy.
2. Historical Context: The legacy of World War II and the subsequent U.S. occupation of Japan has left a complex relationship between the two nations. Some Japanese view the continued presence of U.S. bases as a reminder of that historical trauma.
3. Local Issues: In areas where military bases are located, residents often express concerns about noise, pollution, and crime associated with the bases. There have been incidents involving U.S. personnel that have strained relations with local communities, prompting calls for closure or relocation.
4. Changing Security Landscape: Some Japanese citizens and politicians argue that Japan should enhance its self-defense capabilities rather than rely on the U.S. military. They advocate for a reassessment of Japan's security strategy in light of changing geopolitical dynamics in the region.
5. Anti-Militarism Sentiment: There is a strong anti-militarism sentiment in Japan, influenced by the post-war constitution, which renounces war. This perspective fosters opposition to foreign military presence, including that of the U.S.
6. Political Factors: Local politicians may leverage the issue of U.S. bases to gain support from constituents who are concerned about military presence, especially in regions heavily affected by the bases.

Overall, while there is a significant segment of the population that supports the U.S. military presence for security reasons, the opposition reflects a mix of local grievances, national pride, and evolving views on Japan's role in regional security.

Why do the Japanese want the American military bases closed in Japan?

Answer (1 of 6): While like anything, there are multiple reasons why some Japanese people want the bases (or at least some of the bases) closed or relocated. There is not a single answer that applies to all the bases or all Japanese people and not all Japanese even want the bases closed. Let me o...

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I feel you are missing one element to that list:
That element is, racial. The majority of Japanese view all non-Japanese as Gaijin's (outsiders). It doesn't matter how long you live there, if you aren't Japanese you aren't one of them. It's an inconvenient truth.

 

[Unkotare]

The documents are all that matter. Go into court some time and try to tell the judge that the cop told you he wasn’t going to file charges so the charges should be dropped.

What really happened is all that matters.

 

[Mac-7]

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Why do the Japanese want the American military bases closed in Japan?​

They dont want US military out

That's a lie

Most japanese are happy with the situation as it is

 

[Robert W]

Remove all military bases in foreign countries.

Give Gitmo back to Cuba too.

Gitmo is 45 sq miles and was gained when the USA rescued Cuba from Spain. We have a long-term lease. So, Cuba makes profits.

 

[Robert W]

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Why do the Japanese want the American military bases closed in Japan?​

They dont want US military out

That's a lie

Most japanese are happy with the situation as it is

Japan welcomes profits. I was in an Army base in Germany and though the Germans made profits, when our troops kept having sex with the German girls, they were not pleased. I recall that one of our troops had gone back to America when a German girl showed up trying to locate him saying he was the father of her child. I told her he was back in the USA.

 

[ThirdTerm]

It has been uncovered that one of the founding members of the "Helicopter Base Opposition Council," a violent left-wing group protesting the construction of a base in Henoko, is the same person who attacked the Crown Prince and Princess in the past. This shows the true nature of the anti-base movement in Okinawa, which is both anti-American and anti-Japanese. The people is Okinawa are not ethnically Japanese as Okinawa was an independent country until the 18th century.

The protest boat, "Fukutsu," is operated by the Opposition Council and the boat's captain is 71-year-old Hajime Kanai. In 1975, the "Shirogane Hospital Incident" occurred, in which Crown Prince Akihito and Crown Princess Michiko were attacked with empty bottles and wrenches. One of the perpetrators of that incident was a former Nago City Council member, Mr. B, who was involved in the founding of the Opposition Council.

Marines Go Home: Anti-Base Activism in Okinawa, Japan and Korea | Asia-Pacific Journal | Cambridge Core

Marines Go Home: Anti-Base Activism in Okinawa, Japan and Korea - Volume 8 Issue 14

www.cambridge.org

 

[Concerned American]

It has been uncovered that one of the founding members of the "Helicopter Base Opposition Council," a group protesting the construction of a base in Henoko, is the same person who attacked the Crown Prince and Princess in the past. This shows the true nature of the anti-base movement in Okinawa, which is both anti-American and anti-Japanese. The people is Okinawa are not ethnically Japanese as Okinawa was an independent country until the 18th century.

The protest boat, "Fukutsu," is operated by the Opposition Council and the boat's captain is 71-year-old Hajime Kanai. In 1975, the "Shirogane Hospital Incident" occurred, in which Crown Prince Akihito and Crown Princess Michiko were attacked with empty bottles and wrenches. One of the perpetrators of that incident was a former Nago City Council member, Mr. B, who was involved in the founding of the Opposition Council.

Marines Go Home: Anti-Base Activism in Okinawa, Japan and Korea | Asia-Pacific Journal | Cambridge Core

Marines Go Home: Anti-Base Activism in Okinawa, Japan and Korea - Volume 8 Issue 14

www.cambridge.org

The citizens of Okinawa are Ryukyuans, residents of the Ryukyuan islands which stretch from Kyushu in the north to Taiwan in the south. They are Japanese citizens as Japan owns Okinawa as much as the US does Hawaii. There have been anti-American sentiments in Japan and by extension Okinawa for at least 75 years.

 

[Robert W]

The citizens of Okinawa are Ryukyuans, residents of the Ryukyuan islands which stretch from Kyushu in the north to Taiwan in the south. They are Japanese citizens as Japan owns Okinawa as much as the US does Hawaii. There have been anti-American sentiments in Japan and by extension Okinawa for at least 75 years.

I hired a woman named Linda Kuo who I suspect went back to Taiwan to live since she and her husband came from there, and she told me she is not Chinese, that she is Taiwanese and told me the story you told above. She said Taiwan has never been part of China. She explained the actual natives and may have called them Ryukyuans which I do not recall that part.