Why do the Japanese want the American military bases closed in Japan?

Truman is being discussed ^^. Frankly Truman was not thinking then of Russia needing to be scared. Truman wanted that war over and immediately if possible. We Americans forget that well before the nuclear age, America had destroyed Japan with our other bombs such as incendiary bombs. And Japan was in ruins. The Emperor quit to save any city not yet demolished.
If Dirty Harry wanted the war over, all he had to do was accept the surrender terms Japan offered which he did, but only after dropping the bombs. He was a war criminal and if there is a Hell, he’s burning there
 
Actually I love honest posters.
Me too.
And I will not claim you are wrong.
Well, you could say that you are not convinced that I am right. :)
Part of my memory is in the movies about MacArthur
I'm sure you know what I'm going to think about that. ;)
... also having had some Japanese friends ... a pal for decades and he informed me of a lot of this Japanese stuff. .
My very first serious girlfriend was a highschool class mate of mine. Her father was Japanese. My girlfriend lived together with her father, her American mother and her Japanese grandparents who spoke not a single word of English. They all had been in the concentration camps in the US just because they were Japanese. As you probably guessed, the reason I chose Japan to go on R & R from Vietnam was because of my highschool relationship. Anyway, that's a completely different story.
 
But not until after Truman committed his war crimes, by dropping two nukes. He could have accepted their surrender before dropping the bombs but he was a racist asshole who wanted to scare Uncle Joe, who due to his spies, knew all about the bomb.
No matter how you turn it Japan's surrender WAS NOT "unconditional".
 
..... it won’t be long before foreign military bases are closed. How great that would be.
"Off Topic" of course, but I wonder how that will affect crime (particulary the deadly ones) in the US.
 
I'm sure you know what I'm going to think about that. ;)
I refer to movies about what MacArthur did are primarily true. Sure the theatrical part can outwit a smart person. But in General the part about the Emperor strikes me as true.
 
If Dirty Harry wanted the war over, all he had to do was accept the surrender terms Japan offered which he did, but only after dropping the bombs. He was a war criminal and if there is a Hell, he’s burning there
When was Japan offering to surrender? They were forced to surrender. Truman is a Democrat president who was not like Roosevelt or later Democrats. He really stood up for himself and this country.
 
If Dirty Harry wanted the war over, all he had to do was accept the surrender terms Japan offered which he did, but only after dropping the bombs. He was a war criminal and if there is a Hell, he’s burning there
Gipper, I mentioned on this thread that by the time the A bombs destroyed 2 cities, we had already been destroying many more cities of Japan. That the purpose of the Emperor was to stop the bombing both by regular bombs but fire bombs. And he had no idea at all what A bombs could do until he learned what happened when they exploded.
 
No matter how you turn it Japan's surrender WAS NOT "unconditional".
Did you read my post? I know it was conditional, as I stated.

Japan only asked for the emperor to be protected. Dirty Harry said fuck you, then dropped the two bombs, and then agreed to that request. He was a war criminal who should have been executed for his crimes.
 
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When was Japan offering to surrender? They were forced to surrender. Truman is a Democrat president who was not like Roosevelt or later Democrats. He really stood up for himself and this country.
He committed one of history’s greatest crimes. He should have been tried as a war criminal and suffered punishment.
 
I am researching this very issue.
The desire among some Japanese citizens for the closure of American military bases in Japan stems from several factors:

  1. Sovereignty Concerns: Many Japanese feel that the presence of U.S. military bases undermines Japan's sovereignty. They argue that having foreign troops on their soil limits Japan's autonomy in making independent decisions regarding national security and foreign policy.
  2. Historical Context: The legacy of World War II and the subsequent U.S. occupation of Japan has left a complex relationship between the two nations. Some Japanese view the continued presence of U.S. bases as a reminder of that historical trauma.
  3. Local Issues: In areas where military bases are located, residents often express concerns about noise, pollution, and crime associated with the bases. There have been incidents involving U.S. personnel that have strained relations with local communities, prompting calls for closure or relocation.
  4. Changing Security Landscape: Some Japanese citizens and politicians argue that Japan should enhance its self-defense capabilities rather than rely on the U.S. military. They advocate for a reassessment of Japan's security strategy in light of changing geopolitical dynamics in the region.
  5. Anti-Militarism Sentiment: There is a strong anti-militarism sentiment in Japan, influenced by the post-war constitution, which renounces war. This perspective fosters opposition to foreign military presence, including that of the U.S.
  6. Political Factors: Local politicians may leverage the issue of U.S. bases to gain support from constituents who are concerned about military presence, especially in regions heavily affected by the bases.
Overall, while there is a significant segment of the population that supports the U.S. military presence for security reasons, the opposition reflects a mix of local grievances, national pride, and evolving views on Japan's role in regional security.

Do you blame them? When is the debt finally considered paid?
 
Nothing to do with Japan but I remember an Israeli C-130 parked at Dulles Airport for years in the 70s-80s. I always wondered about why it was there for so long.

It did not move till they reconfigured the terminal parking. Hell, it could still be there for all I know. :dunno:
 
We also have troops in South Korea and they are much closer to North Korea. I used to debate on an AOL site about the great commanders. One of the guys there was an Army West Point graduate and a Captain then. We were in contact until AOL shut the site down and he was then a Major. He would debate me over how dangerous China was and his speeches to me were that China was a long ways from being a major problem. But he said that condition would take 20 years to happen. And today it has happened. We used to chat when Clinton was president. I lost all contact with him.
I am not a navy guy at all. But he told me China needed a blue water Navy to be successful at invading other nations. And I think we can assume that China has some abilities to get a blue water navy. I hope this will help understand a blue water navy. He defined it as a navy that can travel many thousands of miles with ships able to create potable water from ocean water. Americans lead the pack having such ships.
We have a good Navy in spite of obama and the woke crowd

But its not as good as it should be if the goal is to avoid a war with china
 
Did you read my post?
Yes.
I know it was conditional, as I stated.
I know that you know. I was replying for the benefit of the Bubble Brains who only read two or three words from each sentence and make up the rest. Therefore I demonstratively reiterated the fact that the surrender of Japan was CONDITIONAL.
 
We have a good Navy in spite of obama and the woke crowd

But its not as good as it should be if the goal is to avoid a war with china
There is no greater danger to the world than a dying Empire trying to hold on to its power and control.

That's the reason behind all the chaos we're seeing today, and that dying Empire is the United States.
 
There is no greater danger to the world than a dying Empire trying to hold on to its power and control.
That's a quote from someone that I've seen before but I don't remember who it was. Maybe it was you? :)
 
That's a quote from someone that I've seen before but I don't remember who it was. Maybe it was you? :)
Yes it’s been said many times by others. I tend to think it’s accurate and we might be witnessing it happening right now.
 
There is no greater danger to the world than a dying Empire trying to hold on to its power and control.

... and that dying Empire is the United States.
... it’s been said many times by others. I tend to think it’s accurate and we might be witnessing it happening right now.
Most indications seem to prove you're right. .
 
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