Why do the God-haters persist?

[BreezeWood]

but all real Christians know they are sinners and must strive to do better every day.

Being a better person is a journey, not a destination.

real Christians ...

somewhere, the 4th century they changed the events of the 1st century to make themselves believe their destiny can not be accomplished while still alive ...

the fact is the surest way to insure harmony is to create it without waiting for it to be done for them.

 

[ding]

<cough> <bullshit> <cough> <cough>

 

[BreezeWood]

<cough> <bullshit> <cough> <cough>

.

<cough> <bullshit> <cough> <cough>

how a hopeless sinner equivocates ....

 

[ding]

^ doesn't think he is a sinner

 

[BreezeWood]

^ doesn't think he is a sinner

.

^ doesn't think he is a sinner

for once you have something correct.

 

[ding]

^ he thinks he is god

 

[BreezeWood]

^ he thinks he is god

because I am not a sinner like you, that's just an admission of reality.

 

[ding]

^ he thinks he is god

because I am not a sinner like you, that's just an admission of reality.

How special of you.

 

[BreezeWood]

^ he thinks he is god

because I am not a sinner like you, that's just an admission of reality.

How special of you.

.

How special of you.

really, not being a sinner begins by not being a christian ...

 

[ScienceRocks]

I don't hate the concept of God.

Just that there's no real proof for it and why should I devote my entire life to something that probably aint real?

Probably should hate this god as this god promotes murder, rape, genocide, and idiocy. But, I won't hate him because I don't hate the people that follow him.

 

[emilynghiem]

^ he thinks he is god

because I am not a sinner like you, that's just an admission of reality.

Dear BreezeWood
would you admit you have biases
and are not perfectly all knowing as God is.
Sin means separation from God.
None of us is God, none of us is perfectly understanding
and loving of all people equally. We are going to have our biases
and understand/love one person more than another person unlike God.

Do you agree that neither you nor I nor ding
nor any other human aside from Christ Jesus
was perfectly all inclusive and unbiased as God is?

 

[emilynghiem]

I don't hate the concept of God.

Just that there's no real proof for it and why should I devote my entire life to something that probably aint real?

Probably should hate this god as this god promotes murder, rape, genocide, and idiocy. But, I won't hate him because I don't hate the people that follow him.

Dear ScienceRocks
how are you defining "God"
where are you getting that god promotes murder/rape/genocide

If you are referring to these references in the Bible,
the Old Testament is about teaching the history of humanity
which is full of wars rapes genocides because people weren't developed
enough to control our free will, so the letter of the law was corrupted
by greed, and that's what we are still trying to overcome today.

the spirit of the laws in the New Testament
is about Restorative Justice based on truth that brings peace.
So this is about reconciling the laws and love in local/individual relations
with the laws and love of all humanity and universe collectively on a global scale.
This is what is symbolized by the Kingdom of God,
to have perfect restoration and peace on earth.

ScienceRocks if you still believe it is a good goal
to restore the earth and environment, that is like believing we
should seek the perfect paradise and Kingdom of God.

Maybe you spell it out differently, as the laws of nature
that we should be restoring and reconciling with.

Just because you call it the laws of nature
doesn't mean it is against or in conflict with people who call this laws of God.

Those laws being universal have to be referring to the same.
Whatever laws govern the world, earth environment universe
are one and the same with what people call God's laws.
You may be calling this laws of nature or science.
but still we are meant to respect and reconcile with those laws.
And that is what is meant by the Bible,
and why it is urgent that humanity quit repeating the wars and greed
in the past in the OT, and start living by the spirit of peace and harmony
as in the NT. This is true regardless if you are part of the secular gentiles
under natural laws of science or part of the believers under scriptural laws.
either way, we are supposed to unite and live by laws of equal justice and peace.

 

[emilynghiem]

^ he thinks he is god

because I am not a sinner like you, that's just an admission of reality.

How special of you.

.

How special of you.

really, not being a sinner begins by not being a christian ...

Dear BreezeWood please see previous post above
explaining sin in terms of human bias and not being perfect.

Would you agree that whether people identify as Christian
or nonchristian, or whatever we call or don't call ourselves,
we are still biased and have imperfect perceptions?

Do you agree that you are not omniscient?

 

[BreezeWood]

^ he thinks he is god

because I am not a sinner like you, that's just an admission of reality.

Dear BreezeWood
would you admit you have biases
and are not perfectly all knowing as God is.
Sin means separation from God.
None of us is God, none of us is perfectly understanding
and loving of all people equally. We are going to have our biases
and understand/love one person more than another person unlike God.

Do you agree that neither you nor I nor ding
nor any other human aside from Christ Jesus
was perfectly all inclusive and unbiased as God is?

.

Do you agree that neither you nor I nor ding
nor any other human aside from Christ Jesus
was perfectly all inclusive and unbiased as God is?

“Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani” - - “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?


the above was the last scene for the events of the 1st century, not that jesus was not pure simply he was not what the 4th century has used them for, for their own selfintrest.

admission to the Everlasting is the goal while living there can be no doubt being free of sin is a prerequisite ...

 

[emilynghiem]

^ he thinks he is god

because I am not a sinner like you, that's just an admission of reality.

Dear BreezeWood
would you admit you have biases
and are not perfectly all knowing as God is.
Sin means separation from God.
None of us is God, none of us is perfectly understanding
and loving of all people equally. We are going to have our biases
and understand/love one person more than another person unlike God.

Do you agree that neither you nor I nor ding
nor any other human aside from Christ Jesus
was perfectly all inclusive and unbiased as God is?

.

Do you agree that neither you nor I nor ding
nor any other human aside from Christ Jesus
was perfectly all inclusive and unbiased as God is?

“Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani” - - “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?


the above was the last scene for the events of the 1st century, not that jesus was not pure simply he was not what the 4th century has used them for, for their own selfintrest.

admission to the Everlasting is the goal while living there can be no doubt being free of sin is a prerequisite ...

Okay BreezeWood
so do you believe you are free of bias?

 

[ding]

^ he thinks he is god

because I am not a sinner like you, that's just an admission of reality.

Dear BreezeWood
would you admit you have biases
and are not perfectly all knowing as God is.
Sin means separation from God.
None of us is God, none of us is perfectly understanding
and loving of all people equally. We are going to have our biases
and understand/love one person more than another person unlike God.

Do you agree that neither you nor I nor ding
nor any other human aside from Christ Jesus
was perfectly all inclusive and unbiased as God is?

.

Do you agree that neither you nor I nor ding
nor any other human aside from Christ Jesus
was perfectly all inclusive and unbiased as God is?

“Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani” - - “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?


the above was the last scene for the events of the 1st century, not that jesus was not pure simply he was not what the 4th century has used them for, for their own selfintrest.

admission to the Everlasting is the goal while living there can be no doubt being free of sin is a prerequisite ...

He was forsaken because at that moment He was sin. Ours. That was Him sacrificing Himself for us.

And I am a sinner. 100%.

 

[BreezeWood]

^ he thinks he is god

because I am not a sinner like you, that's just an admission of reality.

Dear BreezeWood
would you admit you have biases
and are not perfectly all knowing as God is.
Sin means separation from God.
None of us is God, none of us is perfectly understanding
and loving of all people equally. We are going to have our biases
and understand/love one person more than another person unlike God.

Do you agree that neither you nor I nor ding
nor any other human aside from Christ Jesus
was perfectly all inclusive and unbiased as God is?

.

Do you agree that neither you nor I nor ding
nor any other human aside from Christ Jesus
was perfectly all inclusive and unbiased as God is?

“Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani” - - “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?


the above was the last scene for the events of the 1st century, not that jesus was not pure simply he was not what the 4th century has used them for, for their own selfintrest.

admission to the Everlasting is the goal while living there can be no doubt being free of sin is a prerequisite ...

Okay BreezeWood
so do you believe you are free of bias?

.

Okay BreezeWood
so do you believe you are free of bias?

the metaphysical axioms are necessary to free ones spirit from their physiology being free of bias would be one of them - after the first accomplishment the others will follow. the true message of the 1st century.

 

[emilynghiem]

^ he thinks he is god

because I am not a sinner like you, that's just an admission of reality.

Dear BreezeWood
would you admit you have biases
and are not perfectly all knowing as God is.
Sin means separation from God.
None of us is God, none of us is perfectly understanding
and loving of all people equally. We are going to have our biases
and understand/love one person more than another person unlike God.

Do you agree that neither you nor I nor ding
nor any other human aside from Christ Jesus
was perfectly all inclusive and unbiased as God is?

.

Do you agree that neither you nor I nor ding
nor any other human aside from Christ Jesus
was perfectly all inclusive and unbiased as God is?

“Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani” - - “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?


the above was the last scene for the events of the 1st century, not that jesus was not pure simply he was not what the 4th century has used them for, for their own selfintrest.

admission to the Everlasting is the goal while living there can be no doubt being free of sin is a prerequisite ...

Okay BreezeWood
so do you believe you are free of bias?

.

Okay BreezeWood
so do you believe you are free of bias?

the metaphysical axioms are necessary to free ones spirit from their physiology being free of bias would be one of them - after the first accomplishment the others will follow. the true message of the 1st century.

So where are you in this process BreezeWood
are you free of your biases? or just aware of them but don't let them affect you?
how would you describe how you manage to avoid sin or biases?
can you describe this and where you are with it? Thanks
for sharing your deep insights and thoughts on this.

 

[BreezeWood]

^ he thinks he is god

because I am not a sinner like you, that's just an admission of reality.

Dear BreezeWood
would you admit you have biases
and are not perfectly all knowing as God is.
Sin means separation from God.
None of us is God, none of us is perfectly understanding
and loving of all people equally. We are going to have our biases
and understand/love one person more than another person unlike God.

Do you agree that neither you nor I nor ding
nor any other human aside from Christ Jesus
was perfectly all inclusive and unbiased as God is?

.

Do you agree that neither you nor I nor ding
nor any other human aside from Christ Jesus
was perfectly all inclusive and unbiased as God is?

“Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani” - - “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?


the above was the last scene for the events of the 1st century, not that jesus was not pure simply he was not what the 4th century has used them for, for their own selfintrest.

admission to the Everlasting is the goal while living there can be no doubt being free of sin is a prerequisite ...

He was forsaken because at that moment He was sin. Ours. That was Him sacrificing Himself for us.

And I am a sinner. 100%.

why have you forsaken me ...
.
if that were so why were they asking - why they were forsaken, not sin ...

 

[BreezeWood]

because I am not a sinner like you, that's just an admission of reality.

Dear BreezeWood
would you admit you have biases
and are not perfectly all knowing as God is.
Sin means separation from God.
None of us is God, none of us is perfectly understanding
and loving of all people equally. We are going to have our biases
and understand/love one person more than another person unlike God.

Do you agree that neither you nor I nor ding
nor any other human aside from Christ Jesus
was perfectly all inclusive and unbiased as God is?

.

Do you agree that neither you nor I nor ding
nor any other human aside from Christ Jesus
was perfectly all inclusive and unbiased as God is?

“Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani” - - “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?


the above was the last scene for the events of the 1st century, not that jesus was not pure simply he was not what the 4th century has used them for, for their own selfintrest.

admission to the Everlasting is the goal while living there can be no doubt being free of sin is a prerequisite ...

Okay BreezeWood
so do you believe you are free of bias?

.

Okay BreezeWood
so do you believe you are free of bias?

the metaphysical axioms are necessary to free ones spirit from their physiology being free of bias would be one of them - after the first accomplishment the others will follow. the true message of the 1st century.

So where are you in this process BreezeWood
are you free of your biases? or just aware of them but don't let them affect you?
how would you describe how you manage to avoid sin or biases?
can you describe this and where you are with it? Thanks
for sharing your deep insights and thoughts on this.

.
I'm not a 4th century christian, the events of the 1st century were an enlightenment of the individuals spirit that is accomplished through purity and attainable during life and necessary for remission.