Why do some Americans believe they single handedly won WW2?

Yep … and then we went on to knock up all the German, Japanese, Italian, and English girls in exchange for Hershey bars.
its not even close to what Mongol -Muscovite imperialists did in Europe , you´d know, even Jewish girls, death camps survives were raped by "red" army invaders.

At the beginning of "The Gulag Archipeligo", Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who was an Artillery office in the Red Army, noted that 'the Word From Above' was that soldiers should not rape or molest Muscovite women, but could do so to Belarusian, Ukrainian and Polish and other Slavonic women, while they were positively encouraged to rape and molest German or Austrian women! Stalin, when told of objections from various partisan Allies, simply smirked: 'Let the men have their fun.' (!) When a Yugoslav woman made her way to the Command of the Red Army entering Belgrade, she was casually gang-raped until she showed that she was a messenger from Tito, one of Stalin's closest Partisan Allies! In 1948, when Tito fell out with Stalin, the scale of casual rape of Yugoslav women was one of the reasons given!



 
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The ones we kicked all the way back across the Ocean...
Your history knowledge is like your personality, piss poor -

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You probably have no idea why the US entered WW2.

Because the US supplied arms and money to Ukraine, and if Ukraine won, you would have been stupid enough to claim victory on their part.

That's why I'm interested in knowing if it's your education system or your parents that are at fault with American's poor history knowledge.
 
Your history knowledge is like your personality, piss poor -

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You probably have no idea why the US entered WW2.

Because the US supplied arms and money to Ukraine, and if Ukraine won, you would have been stupid enough to claim victory on their part.

That's why I'm interested in knowing if it's your education system or your parents that are at fault with American's poor history knowledge.
Retard without our support from the start you would be speaking German right now. We supplied food and materials to you and secured half the Atlantic on convoy duty BEFORE we ever entered the war.
 
really ? why Moscow Bolshevik hordesmen raped Polish , Belarusian , Slavak, Serbian , Ukraine children, GIRLS, old men ? what we did wrong ?
In 1944, the "liberation" of Poland by the Red Army began in the worst possible way: more than 100,000 Polish women and girls were raped by Soviet soldiers, and many of them were also killed. The victims ranged in age from 4 to 80 years old. In the city of Olsztyn all Polish women and girls from 9 to 80 years old were raped. The wave of rapes at the hands of the Red Army caused a pandemic of sexual diseases, which affected 10% of the Polish population.
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One can only hope early maga fuckups politicians forced the rape victims who became pregnant to give birth for the deep state.

Then abandoned the children as the christian Bible commanded.
 
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Princeton professor Woodrow Wilson promised American mothers during his campaign that he would never send their sons to fight in a foreign war then he sent the Doughboys to save France and we had to do it over again in less than two decades. Don't let Russian and Chinese and European leftist propaganda convince you otherwise, American industrial might and the greatest fighting force on the planet won WW2
 
Princeton professor Woodrow Wilson promised American mothers during his campaign that he would never send their sons to fight in a foreign war then he sent the Doughboys to save France and we had to do it over again in less than two decades. Don't let Russian and Chinese and European leftist propaganda convince you otherwise, American industrial might and the greatest fighting force on the planet won WW2
The Soviets beat Hitler
US beat Japan
 
Retard without our support from the start you would be speaking German right now. We supplied food and materials to you and secured half the Atlantic on convoy duty BEFORE we ever entered the war.
Bang on cue. School or parent problems?

You should be speaking French.
 
Talk about ignorant Britain would have been toast without the US and would have starved to death as the U-boats decimated your merchant fleet.
The colonies were getting their arses kicked, the French came to their rescue to win the war, the colonies couldn't do that. Here's a photo of a statue I took in Paris -

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I took a close up photo of the inscription so folk can research the commandant -

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Why aren't you speaking French you ungrateful twat?

But back to the WW2 problem that you suffer from too.
 
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While it is likely that without US assistance WWII would have been lost by the allies, it is not true that the US did it alone. It was definitely a joint effort.
It was Soviet and British lives, and American production which won it.

We outproduced the entire world.
 
Now now y'all y'alls!!! We ALL did our bit and so TOGETHER defeated the disgusting menace. Let's all have a beer on me!! The Bar is open today at The Spotted Cow and midday. All who show up have free beer; the bar tab is on me!!



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The soviets only survived to fight because of US aid food and massive amounts of weapons and equipment. With out us they would have lost to the Germans.

They did a lot of fighting and dying
Killed a lot of Germans

Most of the German forces were on the Eastern Front
We never would have liberated Western Europe without them
 
Bang on cue. School or parent problems?

You should be speaking French.
You should read some history. The RN eventually begged for those fifty overage destroyers after demanding modern fleet destroyers because it was so short of escorts that many convoys only had one armed trawler for an escort and some had no escorts at all. Only eight Canadian Flower Class Corvettes were commissioned before January 1941 when the US surplus destroyers were coming into service. The UK was out of money and without the US, would have been starved out of the war by the end of 1942. Without money, the UK wouldn’t have been able to buy the food it needed from various South American countries leaving it dependent on foodstuffs donated by Australia, New Zealand and India IF the governments there were willing to bear the cost. While the Germans likely wouldn’t have invaded, the terms they would have imposed would reduce the UK to a similar status as Vichy France, paying Germany tribute in food, supplies and workers. Perhaps Canada would fight on, but certainly South Africa would come to an agreement with Germany since they had much in common. The Aussies and Kiwis would most likely not fight since their threat was Imperial Japan. India would seize its promised independence.
 
Americans indeed tend to overplay the role they had in the Western European theater - in regards to defeating Nazi-Germany

The Soviets already had the Germans on the run from end of 1942 onward - with no chances left for Austrian to win that war. The UK could indeed have waited it out on their island - leaving it up to Stalin to take over "liberate" Europe.

I am convinced that Churchill could see this coming, after having won the BoB and thus evaded a German invasion onto Britain, and therefore kept urging the Americans to come in, so as to stop Stalin from taking all the spoils - since the UK could not have stopped him. The Austrian having declared war onto the USA, had helped him tremendously in this aspect.

Therefore it was indeed vital for the UK and France, to get the USA into the European theater. Not just to join into the defeat of Nazi-Germany, but factually preventing Stalin aka Communism from taking over Western-Europe. I guess that this was in Roosevelt's foremost interest, his factual motivation, since it must have been a huge concern for him as well.
The Soviets had the German advances blunted somewhat by the end of 1942, but 1943 still saw German advances until the the Battle of Kursk in July 1943. At that point the German's began to lose ground and retreat.

As pointed out many times here, USA Lend-Lease was essential to keeping the Allies in the fight and making the progress they did.

France as a nation was occupied and it's colonies the source of Free French military were largely supplied with USA aircraft, combat vehicles, weapons, trucks, ammo and food.

UK was dependent upon food and essential resources and equipment coming in across the North Atlantic via merchant ship convoys out of the USA. The Battle of the Atlantic against Germany's U-boats was therefore of greatest importance and affect.
As for the German invasion of the UK, such was never in the German pre-war plans. It was largely canceled because the Germans doubted the could prevent the Royal Navy from intervening and the lack of real amphibious capability. River barges to cross Channel was also a recipe for disaster.

As for the Soviet Union, the war on their land could have last a lot longer (years?) were it not for USA Lend-Lease, especially during 1942-1943. Most important was the food we shipped which kept that country from starving and the tens of thousands of trucks that we sent as well, allowing better transport of troops and supplies to the front.

The Soviet ZIS that they started the war with was plentiful and had it's uses, but only rear wheel drive limited it's us off-road. For that matter most Soviet roads being unpaved, about half the year they became impassable mud.
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Where-as the USA Studebaker is the truck that helped Russia win their part of the war.

How the U.S. Studebaker became the Soviet 'victory truck' (PHOT

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The Studebaker deserves a monument like those everywhere to the famous T-34 tank,” wrote artilleryman Ilya Maryasin. The darling of Soviet military drivers, the Studebaker-US6 was a real lifesaver for the Red Army, which experienced a chronic shortage of vehicles throughout WWII. It was the most exported vehicle to the USSR under the Lend-Lease program — up to 200,000 were delivered to the country during the conflict.
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In USA markings (white star) but same as provided to USSR.
Ford, GMC, & Dodge also provide similar 6x6, as well as some 4x4s.
 
Can you imagine today's republican response to Lend Lease?

"we need to stop supplying the Russians with weapons so they can realize they've lost and surrender to Germany"


Lib confused that different situations get different policies.
 
WWII is best seen like a relay race. With each of the allies just one leg.
While true the Americans ran the "anchor leg" to victory. They wouldn't have been in the running without the support of the other legs.

America helped, both through lend lease at the beginning, and their warfighting at the end.
Our strategic bombing campaigns in both ETO & PTO also had a MAJOR impact.
 
This is a situation the US, and frankly all other countries haven't prepared for. No nation is capable of producing the number of 5th generation fighter aircraft that would support an all out war. Both sides would expend their inventory in weeks or months, with replacements not being manufactured in sufficient numbers for years.

The instruments of war were so much simpler back then. Today if you can't get the microchips from Taiwan, military manufacturing couldn't produce the first rate smart weapons.

One example of our considerable vulnerabilities:

Currently the USA gets most of its semiconductors--critical for almost all American electronics and especially war machines and equipment--from Malaysia, Taiwan and China. Malaysia has far more formal ties with China than it does with the USA and if China should go to war with the USA, the first thing it would most likely do is overtake Taiwan or at least make it impossible for Taiwan to help the USA in any way.

That creates a significant security threat to the USA. We should be creating an environment in which the few U.S. companies manufacturing semiconductors would step up production sufficient to sustain us should that be necessary. That would be Intel, Nvidia, Micron Technology, Texas Instruments et al. That not only would create thousands of good paying and essential jobs but would close a significant national security gap.

We won't single handedly win WWIII either, but we sure don't have to be sitting ducks for powerful countries who would dearly love to do their worst to us if they dared.
 
The reason Operation Barbarossa didn't take place before the winter hit is because of the heroic resistance of the Greeks for which Hitler had to divert his troop to the southern flanks in Mussolini's failure. In fact, Hitler once uttered, "Let it not be said that the Spartans fought like Greeks, but the Greeks fought like Spartans."

There are few higher words that could be uttered by the victorious than that.
The UK also deployed troops to Greece*, which helped impede that advance. The Brits then retreated to Crete where Germany would use, and deplete their paratroop/airborne units to capture that island. Germany could have put those paras to better use invading Russia, but they were to depleted for any strategic use. BTW, Germany only deployed a handful of divisions out o fthe over 100 prepping for the Russian invasion.

Also, the attack on Greece was started by Italy, but Germany entered when the Italians were stalled.
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The Balkans campaign of World War II began with the Italian invasion of Greece on 28 October 1940. In the early months of 1941, Italy's offensive had stalled and a Greek counter-offensive pushed into Albania. Germany sought to aid Italy by deploying troops to Romania and Bulgaria and attacking Greece from the east. Meanwhile, the British landed troops and aircraft to shore up Greek defences. A coup d'état in Yugoslavia on 27 March caused Adolf Hitler to order the conquest of that country.

The invasion of Yugoslavia by Germany and Italy began on 6 April 1941, simultaneously with the renewed invasion of Greece; on 11 April, Hungary joined the invasion of Yugoslavia. By 17 April the Yugoslavs had signed an armistice, and by 30 April all of mainland Greece was under German or Italian control. On 20 May Germany invaded Crete by air, and by 1 June all remaining Greek and British forces on the island had surrendered. Although it had not participated in the attacks in April, Bulgaria occupied parts of both Yugoslavia and Greece shortly thereafter for the remainder of the war in the Balkans.
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*These UK troops were taken from the limited forces available in the Middle East and this was just as Germany had sent two armor divisions, and Rommel, to North Africa. Talk about 'being between a rock and hard place'.

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The attack/invasion of Russia started on June 22, 1941, start of Summer, so was well before winter.
 

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