Why do so many teachers leave the profession?

[Skull Pilot]

I don't know how it is in Skulls state, but my sister in law, who is a public school teacher, works 10 hour days. And no, she doesn't have time to just hang around during school hours like skull thinks.

Yeah sure. So if the classes only run about 6 hours a day and the teachers don't teach every period what are they doing for those other 4 or 5 hours?

I don't buy it. You all put these people on a pedestal but in reality they don't work full time and they don't work that hard.

Really how hard is it to teach US history, or geometry, or English Comp for years on end? Nothing changes.

 

[psikeyhackr]

Because they believed the propaganda about teachers when they were young but were intelligent enough to see reality and find something better once they were actually into it.

So it is the ones not intelligent enough to find something better who stay but they keep pumping out the propaganda.

Running for cover! LOL

psik

 

[AmyNation]

Oh so the teacher has to get there 5 minutes before first period. Yeah that makes the day soooo much longer.

It's a part time job.

You should go to your local high school and actually talk to a teacher. It'll clear up a lot of your misconceptions.

I went to HS and the teachers were not there much before the students. To say they are there for hours before class is crap.

Again, school is very much a local issue, so I don't know how it is where you are... But my sister in law is required to be at school at 6:30am, for a daily meeting, then she is required to have 1 hour before school begins, and one hour after school ends, of office hours, for any student who wishes to talk to her. She has no free time during school hours, as she is either teaching, grading, or making phone calls. As she's required to contact parents of students who miss her class, or are struggling.

 

[AmyNation]

I don't know how it is in Skulls state, but my sister in law, who is a public school teacher, works 10 hour days. And no, she doesn't have time to just hang around during school hours like skull thinks.

Yeah sure. So if the classes only run about 6 hours a day and the teachers don't teach every period what are they doing for those other 4 or 5 hours?

I don't buy it. You all put these people on a pedestal but in reality they don't work full time and they don't work that hard.

Really how hard is it to teach US history, or geometry, or English Comp for years on end? Nothing changes.

You think teachers teach 1 class, once a day?

Ok. You keep on keeping on. Clearly you are entrenched in this belief and have no desire for facts to get in your way.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Bullshit.

Add in all the school holidays, teacher development days etc and we're lucky if it's 9 months. And why don't teachers do their so called development in the summer rather than missing class during the school year.

And it's no one's fault but theirs if they have to take work home. The school day is barely 6 hours long.

You speak from ignorance..I dare you to find any Teacher anywhere that says they have a 6 hour work day. You wont because you make up anything to move on

Classes start at 8 and end at what 230 then there's lunch That's a 6 hour day and teachers don't teach every period.

For christ sake stop trying to act as if teaching is hard work.

You really are limited. I thought you knew more about the world. I misjudged you. Must be your arrogance.

 

[Samson]

I don't know how it is in Skulls state, but my sister in law, who is a public school teacher, works 10 hour days. And no, she doesn't have time to just hang around during school hours like skull thinks.

Yeah sure. So if the classes only run about 6 hours a day and the teachers don't teach every period what are they doing for those other 4 or 5 hours?

I don't buy it. You all put these people on a pedestal but in reality they don't work full time and they don't work that hard.

Really how hard is it to teach US history, or geometry, or English Comp for years on end? Nothing changes.

Correct.

I can see maybe a first-year, or even a second year teacher strugging with time management, unable to complete tasks during regular school hours. Even I, on very VERY few occasions, would bring stuff home to grade.

Now, there is the case where a teacher will VOLUNTEER to work longer hours: take the Theatre Teacher for example; rehearsals, set design, coaching debate, etc., are often done AFTER school. Sometimes a small stipend is offered, but most teachers WANT to do this stuff. Once you volunteer, then bitching about the extra hours is irrelevant.

 

[LoneLaugher]

You speak from ignorance..I dare you to find any Teacher anywhere that says they have a 6 hour work day. You wont because you make up anything to move on

Classes start at 8 and end at what 230 then there's lunch That's a 6 hour day and teachers don't teach every period.

For christ sake stop trying to act as if teaching is hard work.

i have had jobs in govt and the private sector.

By far the most difficult and thankless is teaching

I have worked jobs in construction, building maintenance, manufacturing, sales and sales management....and I have owned three businesses. My 4 years as a High School teacher were by far the most challenging in terms of difficulty and time spent on the job.

Skull is wrong and is displaying a very childish, naive thought process here. I think I will devote some time to mocking him rather than having a discussion with him.

 

[WorldWatcher]

I don't know how it is in Skulls state, but my sister in law, who is a public school teacher, works 10 hour days. And no, she doesn't have time to just hang around during school hours like skull thinks.

Yeah sure. So if the classes only run about 6 hours a day and the teachers don't teach every period what are they doing for those other 4 or 5 hours?

I don't buy it. You all put these people on a pedestal but in reality they don't work full time and they don't work that hard.

Really how hard is it to teach US history, or geometry, or English Comp for years on end? Nothing changes.

Correct.

I can see maybe a first-year, or even a second year teacher strugging with time management, unable to complete tasks during regular school hours. Even I, on very VERY few occasions, would bring stuff home to grade.

Now, there is the case where a teacher will VOLUNTEER to work longer hours: take the Theatre Teacher for example; rehearsals, set design, coaching debate, etc., are often done AFTER school. Sometimes a small stipend is offered, but most teachers WANT to do this stuff. Once you volunteer, then bitching about the extra hours is irrelevant.

You are wrong, most times those types of positions a Music Teacher, Chorus Teacher, Theater Teacher - the performance of after school functions (rehearsals and performances) are not VOLUNTEER they are an integral portion of the job requirements, they are required (for the example of music, chorus, and theater). Apply for the job as a High School Music Teacher and tell the Principal that you refuse to have a band as part of the school program.

See if you get the job.


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[JakeStarkey]

Skull Pilot obviously is envious of school teachers, resents them for whatever stupid reason, and is acting like Balaam's four-legged buddy. Pathetic.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Skull, you really have no idea of what you are talking about.

Call the HS counselor. Make an appointment to shadow an instructor for an entire day. Do something like Spec Ed, Theatre, or Math.

OH teaching theater now that's hard work.

Cut the crap. Nothing about teaching basic HS courses is difficult. The fucking material hasn't changed since my grandparents were in school.

Tell me how much as US history, basic English grammar, and algebra changed in the past 100 years.

If a teacher can't get his work done in an 8 hour day then that's his problem. Anyway most professionals I know plan to work at least 50 hours a week for their salary and they have to work all year long not just 3/4 of the year.

Nonsense. Your are simply being stubborn because you know you are wrong. You simply can't stand being counseled by those who know better. You must be a difficult employee.

End of story.

I am not anyone's employee.

I have been working for myself most of my life and now people work for me.

I just don't believe all the pissing and moaning from teachers about how hard their part time jobs are.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Skull, you really have no idea of what you are talking about.

Call the HS counselor. Make an appointment to shadow an instructor for an entire day. Do something like Spec Ed, Theatre, or Math.

OH teaching theater now that's hard work.

Cut the crap. Nothing about teaching basic HS courses is difficult. The fucking material hasn't changed since my grandparents were in school.

Tell me how much as US history, basic English grammar, and algebra changed in the past 100 years.

If a teacher can't get his work done in an 8 hour day then that's his problem. Anyway most professionals I know plan to work at least 50 hours a week for their salary and they have to work all year long not just 3/4 of the year.

You wouldn't spend 6-8 hours with 30 kids if they paid you too

That doesn't mean it's "hard work"

There are a lot of things I wouldn't choose to do even if I were paid.

 

[Skull Pilot]

I don't know how it is in Skulls state, but my sister in law, who is a public school teacher, works 10 hour days. And no, she doesn't have time to just hang around during school hours like skull thinks.

Yeah sure. So if the classes only run about 6 hours a day and the teachers don't teach every period what are they doing for those other 4 or 5 hours?

I don't buy it. You all put these people on a pedestal but in reality they don't work full time and they don't work that hard.

Really how hard is it to teach US history, or geometry, or English Comp for years on end? Nothing changes.

You think teachers teach 1 class, once a day?

where did I say that?

Algebra 2 hasn't changed in 100 years either so teaching that, algebra 1 and geometry shouldn't be too tough

 

[Skull Pilot]

You speak from ignorance..I dare you to find any Teacher anywhere that says they have a 6 hour work day. You wont because you make up anything to move on

Classes start at 8 and end at what 230 then there's lunch That's a 6 hour day and teachers don't teach every period.

For christ sake stop trying to act as if teaching is hard work.

You really are limited. I thought you knew more about the world. I misjudged you. Must be your arrogance.

No I just call a part time job what it is.

 

[koshergrl]

I suspect a lot more teachers will leave if asked to teach that Darwin was wrong, and other crap some states have put into their curriculum.

Hallelujah!

 

[koshergrl]

OH teaching theater now that's hard work.

Cut the crap. Nothing about teaching basic HS courses is difficult. The fucking material hasn't changed since my grandparents were in school.

Tell me how much as US history, basic English grammar, and algebra changed in the past 100 years.

If a teacher can't get his work done in an 8 hour day then that's his problem. Anyway most professionals I know plan to work at least 50 hours a week for their salary and they have to work all year long not just 3/4 of the year.

Nonsense. Your are simply being stubborn because you know you are wrong. You simply can't stand being counseled by those who know better. You must be a difficult employee.

End of story.

I am not anyone's employee.

I have been working for myself most of my life and now people work for me.

I just don't believe all the pissing and moaning from teachers about how hard their part time jobs are.

If it's so odious, one wonders why on earth they would go into that field....

Oh yeah...it's because they're stupid, and lazy, and wouldn't make it as doctors or lawyers. It's the perfect job!

 

[Skull Pilot]

Classes start at 8 and end at what 230 then there's lunch That's a 6 hour day and teachers don't teach every period.

For christ sake stop trying to act as if teaching is hard work.

i have had jobs in govt and the private sector.

By far the most difficult and thankless is teaching

I have worked jobs in construction, building maintenance, manufacturing, sales and sales management....and I have owned three businesses. My 4 years as a High School teacher were by far the most challenging in terms of difficulty and time spent on the job.

Skull is wrong and is displaying a very childish, naive thought process here. I think I will devote some time to mocking him rather than having a discussion with him.

Yeah sure. Teaching the same thing every year over and over and over again must be tough. Having summers and all those school holidays off must suck.

Tell me how many new things have happened in Algebra lately? US History? Anything new by Shakespeare?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Nonsense. Your are simply being stubborn because you know you are wrong. You simply can't stand being counseled by those who know better. You must be a difficult employee.

End of story.

I am not anyone's employee.

I have been working for myself most of my life and now people work for me.

I just don't believe all the pissing and moaning from teachers about how hard their part time jobs are.

If it's so odious, one wonders why on earth they would go into that field....

Oh yeah...it's because they're stupid, and lazy, and wouldn't make it as doctors or lawyers. It's the perfect job!

They go into it because it's full time pay for part time work.

 

[koshergrl]

I don't know how it is in Skulls state, but my sister in law, who is a public school teacher, works 10 hour days. And no, she doesn't have time to just hang around during school hours like skull thinks.

Yeah sure. So if the classes only run about 6 hours a day and the teachers don't teach every period what are they doing for those other 4 or 5 hours?

I don't buy it. You all put these people on a pedestal but in reality they don't work full time and they don't work that hard.

Really how hard is it to teach US history, or geometry, or English Comp for years on end? Nothing changes.

You think teachers teach 1 class, once a day?

Ok. You keep on keeping on. Clearly you are entrenched in this belief and have no desire for facts to get in your way.

What is with you people and pretending that people say things other than what they said?

He never said that. You made it up and assigned it to him. Poor form...and stupid...of you. But it's what we expect from you. Keep on keeping on.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I am not anyone's employee.

I have been working for myself most of my life and now people work for me.

I just don't believe all the pissing and moaning from teachers about how hard their part time jobs are.

If it's so odious, one wonders why on earth they would go into that field....

Oh yeah...it's because they're stupid, and lazy, and wouldn't make it as doctors or lawyers. It's the perfect job!

They go into it because it's full time pay for part time work.

You are simply silly.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yeah sure. So if the classes only run about 6 hours a day and the teachers don't teach every period what are they doing for those other 4 or 5 hours?

I don't buy it. You all put these people on a pedestal but in reality they don't work full time and they don't work that hard.

Really how hard is it to teach US history, or geometry, or English Comp for years on end? Nothing changes.

You think teachers teach 1 class, once a day?

Ok. You keep on keeping on. Clearly you are entrenched in this belief and have no desire for facts to get in your way.

What is with you people and pretending that people say things other than what they said?

He never said that. You made it up and assigned it to him. Poor form...and stupid...of you. But it's what we expect from you. Keep on keeping on.

You do that all the time, kg, so we will give your statement the worth it deserves. Nada.