Why do poor communities exist in America?

[danielpalos]

An abortionist shouldn't be lecturing others about "morals".

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. False witness bearers have no morals.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Why do poor communities exist in America?​

With a few exceptions, it's largely due to irresponsible decision making and a lack of self responsibility and accountability.

 

[danielpalos]

With a few exceptions, it's largely due to irresponsible decision making and a lack of self responsibility and accountability.

Like black codes did in the past?

 

[WinterBorn]

No State legislature has any authority to abridge at-will employment law for any other public policy.

So if someone is hurt on the job, the employer can fire them at will?

If someone accuses their employer of sexual harassment, the employer can fire them for any reason or no reason?

If someone blows the whistle on their employer, they can be fired at the will of the employer?

 

[WinterBorn]

It takes morals to bear true witness. Too lazy?

Morals? Lol. That is funny.

 

[danielpalos]

So if someone is hurt on the job, the employer can fire them at will?

If someone accuses their employer of sexual harassment, the employer can fire them for any reason or no reason?

If someone blows the whistle on their employer, they can be fired at the will of the employer?

Yes, with equal protection of the laws for unemployment compensation; the expense of litigation should be lower and businesses more efficient as a result since Labor could simply quit and go on unemployment if there are any problems with a work environment. Even black listing should not be illegal then.

 

[WinterBorn]

Yes, with equal protection of the laws for unemployment compensation; the expense of litigation should be lower and businesses more efficient as a result since Labor could simply quit and go on unemployment if there are any problems with a work environment. Even black listing should not be illegal then.

Bullshit. Your ideas are absolutely foolish. You cannot fire a whistle blower, or someone bringing sexual harassment charges.

 

[danielpalos]

Bullshit. Your ideas are absolutely foolish. You cannot fire a whistle blower, or someone bringing sexual harassment charges.

Equal protection of the laws for unemployment compensation can change that. Employer costs should come down enough to make a difference.

 

[WinterBorn]

Equal protection of the laws for unemployment compensation can change that. Employer costs should come down enough to make a difference.

How does allowing a whistleblower to be fired bring down costs? It would prevent all future whistleblowing, and allow wrongs to go unpunished.

But the fact that there are times when it is illegal fire someone, even in a work at-will state, proves that the simple definition of at-will employment does not mean all employment laws follow it.

 

[danielpalos]

How does allowing a whistleblower to be fired bring down costs? It would prevent all future whistleblowing, and allow wrongs to go unpunished.

But the fact that there are times when it is illegal fire someone, even in a work at-will state, proves that the simple definition of at-will employment does not mean all employment laws follow it.

There should be less need for "whistleblowing" since more motivated labor will be coming up with better solutions. And, there are usually procedures for that in any organization. Besides, we can't run an economy that depends on whistleblowers instead of better solutions at lower cost.

 

[WinterBorn]

There should be less need for "whistleblowing" since more motivated labor will be coming up with better solutions. And, there are usually procedures for that in any organization. Besides, we can't run an economy that depends on whistleblowers instead of better solutions at lower cost.

What you posted is irrelevant. The reason I brought up whistleblowers is because you said no law can be passed that does not follow the definition of at-will employment laws. The laws concerning whistleblowers are obviously not in line with what you say must be for all laws. Neither are jobs which are covered by a contract, especially when a union is involved. So your entire premise is blown.

 

[danielpalos]

What you posted is irrelevant. The reason I brought up whistleblowers is because you said no law can be passed that does not follow the definition of at-will employment laws. The laws concerning whistleblowers are obviously not in line with what you say must be for all laws. Neither are jobs which are covered by a contract, especially when a union is involved. So your entire premise is blown.

What you posted is even less relevant. See how easy that is. Employment at-will means the employer doesn't need good cause. Unlike what y'all want to insist on for Labor as the least wealthy in our republic.

 

[WinterBorn]

What you posted is even less relevant. See how easy that is. Employment at-will means the employer doesn't need good cause. Unlike what y'all want to insist on for Labor as the least wealthy in our republic.

You said, several times, that no policy or law can go against the at-will employment laws. In fact, that is the basis for your entire "unequal protection under the law" argument.

And yet, here is a specific situation in which an employer is not allowed to fire an employee at will.
A person employed under contract (especially a union contract) also cannot be fired at will.

If those are true, and you have nothing saying unemployment compensation must follow the at-will employment laws, then your claims are baseless.

Thanks for playing.

 

[Likkmee]

Better to be poor in amerrykuch than middle class in a shithole...so they say
5 Ha(12-13 acres),,12 milk cows, corn, tomato, pepper, beans, rice, chickens, 2 pigs buncha other stuff
Property tax about $120 a year.
Mortgage hahahahahah. Not happenin.Thats gringo nonsense. Took the dude 3 years to build this thing CASH. 2005-2008
My gardeners place. He makes about $600/ month from me and about the same from all his stuff on the farm.probably closer to $1000 on the farm since he got married. She makes cheeses and is a seamstress

 

[Soupnazi630]

any contribution is a form of tax. how did you come up with your reasoning? unemployment compensation is compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment. limits are an abridgment to that compensation.

There is no such natural rate of unemployment and such lioomits are not an abridgement

 

[danielpalos]

You said, several times, that no policy or law can go against the at-will employment laws. In fact, that is the basis for your entire "unequal protection under the law" argument.

And yet, here is a specific situation in which an employer is not allowed to fire an employee at will.
A person employed under contract (especially a union contract) also cannot be fired at will.

If those are true, and you have nothing saying unemployment compensation must follow the at-will employment laws, then your claims are baseless.

Thanks for playing.

lol. for-cause employment is not the same as at-will employment. and, unequal protection of the laws now means different application of the laws than would be the case with equal protection; since labor would be able to quit and still collect unemployment compensation. Knowing that, employers would have a different attitude toward labor than they do now.

 

[danielpalos]

There is no such natural rate of unemployment and such lioomits are not an abridgement

You only have appeals to ignorance not any valid arguments.

What Is the Natural Unemployment Rate?

The natural unemployment rate is measured by the number of people unemployed due to the structure of the labor force, such as those who lack the skills to gain employment or those moving from job to job.

www.investopedia.com

 

[Soupnazi630]

You only have appeals to ignorance not any valid arguments.

What Is the Natural Unemployment Rate?

The natural unemployment rate is measured by the number of people unemployed due to the structure of the labor force, such as those who lack the skills to gain employment or those moving from job to job.

www.investopedia.com

It does not exist dumbass

Stating facts is not an appeal to ignorance. I stated fact and you are a false witness bearing liar and a sack of treasonous shit

 

[WinterBorn]

lol. for-cause employment is not the same as at-will employment. and, unequal protection of the laws now means different application of the laws than would be the case with equal protection; since labor would be able to quit and still collect unemployment compensation. Knowing that, employers would have a different attitude toward labor than they do now.

No they wouldn't. Every job I have ever quit without notice was to take another, better, job.

The fact is, since you have been shown that there are laws that do not follow the at-will employment description, your claims that the UC laws violate the equal protection clause are simply false. There is nothing that says all labor laws have to follow at-will employment descriptions, and there are obvious examples where they do not, you have no argument.

Also, the Unemployment Compensation is jointly managed by the federal gov't and the individual states.

 

[danielpalos]

It does not exist dumbass

Stating facts is not an appeal to ignorance. I stated fact and you are a false witness bearing liar and a sack of treasonous shit

Show us the link, full of fallacy right-winger.