Why Do Palestinians Lie About Wanting Peace? And Two States?

[P F Tinmore]

et al,

I'm not sure I understand the argument here. Periodically --- there are short-term Arab Palestinians thoughts expressed that they might support a two-State Solution. But, in the long-term, the political positions they consistently return to are:

• Statement of 6 February 1948 Communicated to the Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee
A/AC.21/10 16 February 1948

In conclusion, the Arab Higher Committee Delegation wishes to stress the following: (b) The Arabs of Palestine consider that any attempt by the Jews or any power group of powers to establish a Jewish state in Arab territory is an act of aggression which will be resisted in self-defense.
​

• Khartoum Resolution (1967)

NO peace with Israel
NO recognition of Israel
NO negotiations with Israel
​

• Palestinian National Covenant, the official charter of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) (1968)

Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit.
The partition of Palestine in 1947 and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and to their natural right in their homeland, and inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
The Balfour Declaration, the Mandate for Palestine, and everything that has been based upon them, are deemed null and void.
​

• HAMAS Covenant (1988)
Strategies of the Islamic Resistance Movement: Palestine Is Islamic aqf:

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up.
​

• Hamas’ political thought and stances in light of the Arab uprisings; By Khalid Mishaal (2012)
First: Hamas’s Vision for the Palestinian Issue

Palestine, from its river to its sea, from its north to its south, is the land of the Palestinians; their homeland, and their legitimate right. We will not relinquish an inch or any part of it -for any reason or under any circumstances and pressures.​

Yes, while there are quite short moments in time, when Arab Palestinian Voice (or another) might express some interest in the Two-State Solution, the policy expressed by the Arab Palestinian --- consistently over time --- is that they oppose any such move. For the Arab Palestinian, for nearly, seven decades (1948-2016), is an "All or Nothing" position. Either they get to impose Arab Majority Rule and sovereignty over all the Mandate era Palestine, or they continue the use of force to achieve their political ends.

Most Respectfully,
R

• Statement of 6 February 1948 Communicated to the Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee
A/AC.21/10 16 February 1948

Mr. Nakhleh was an interesting person.

I first met Issa Nakhleh in the 1980s while he was still busily researching for his two volume "Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem". I learnt first hand of his personal history, a palestinian, a refugee, a man who had lost everything he had had. His house, his law office, his apartment house in Jerusalem and a banana plantation were, as he describes "usurped by the Zionists and Israeli war criminals ". A man's roots had been cut.

Issa fought all his life for a peaceful resolution to the many problems facing the Palestinian people, who are scattered all over the globe today. In fact, after he told me his personal history, I was surprised how peaceful yet at the same time determined he went after his business of documenting the history of his people, insisting that the political process, including especially the United Nations, should ultimately give the Palestinians back their homeland. Writes Mr. Nakhleh: The greatest Zionist and Israeli crime against me and six million other Palestinians is that they have deprived us of living in our ancestral homeland, Palestine, as citizens of our independent undivided Palestinian State.

Start of: Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem​

I'm afraid the Arab-Moslem psyche is one that is forever consumed with lamenting what they lost due to their own incompetence and ineptitudes, what they couldn't achieve, errors on their part they will insist were and still are the the fault of the Great Satan™, The Zionist Entity™, the kuffar and other assortments of conspirators and co-conspirators.

It's a complete lack of ownership of their own mistakes, a lack of ability to be held accountable and a willingness / need to be the perpetual victim.

You would think that the money supplied by the kuffar which maintains the Pal'istanian welfare fraud would come with conditions. One of those conditions would be that the Arab-Moslem terrorists / whiners go to school in Hong Kong or South Korea and learn how success can be achieved in spite of hardships, with a willingness to succeed... and the lack of a retrograde politico-religious ideology that keeps one forever enslaved.

Indeed, it was their own fault that they left their country at the point of a gun.

 

[Hollie]

The Pal'istanians lie about wanting peace because they're not held accountable for their lies.

The PA's Billion Dollar Fraud - PMW Bulletins

The PA's billion dollar fraud

The Palestinian Authority is deceiving Western donor countries,
falsely claiming to have stopped paying salaries to terrorist prisoners, and reaping more than a billion dollars/year in return.


It is an unfortunate circumstance of the western world allowing the kuffar money spigot to flow while ignoring that the welfare fraud syndicate run by Islamic terrorists has a free hand to continue

The PA is the foreign appointed oligarchs of Palestine. Oligarchs always suck the money while their people eat dirt.

Of course. You're exactly the stereotype of the helpless islamo-child whose every self-inflicted pratfall and disaster is always someone else's fault.

The Islamic terrorists in Gaza elected by Arabs-Moslems are the stuff of a different conspiracy altogether.

 

[Phoenall]

If people are homeless then there is a problem.

They made themselves homeless by migration illegally to Palestine, so they should go back were they came from

 

[Phoenall]

If people are homeless then there is a problem.

They're not homeless. They also have an entire welfare agency dedicated to their exclusive use, abuse and fraud.

They need a little patch of land to call their own. I really think theyve been inundated with a complicated civilisation which they dont need. Most English people are the same. Australians, when left alone, just work quietly and want zero conflict. im sure Palestinians are the same.

They had it in Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Yemen and Iraq so why did they migrate illegally

 

[Hollie]

et al,

I'm not sure I understand the argument here. Periodically --- there are short-term Arab Palestinians thoughts expressed that they might support a two-State Solution. But, in the long-term, the political positions they consistently return to are:

• Statement of 6 February 1948 Communicated to the Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee
A/AC.21/10 16 February 1948

In conclusion, the Arab Higher Committee Delegation wishes to stress the following: (b) The Arabs of Palestine consider that any attempt by the Jews or any power group of powers to establish a Jewish state in Arab territory is an act of aggression which will be resisted in self-defense.
​

• Khartoum Resolution (1967)

NO peace with Israel
NO recognition of Israel
NO negotiations with Israel
​

• Palestinian National Covenant, the official charter of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) (1968)

Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit.
The partition of Palestine in 1947 and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and to their natural right in their homeland, and inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
The Balfour Declaration, the Mandate for Palestine, and everything that has been based upon them, are deemed null and void.
​

• HAMAS Covenant (1988)
Strategies of the Islamic Resistance Movement: Palestine Is Islamic aqf:

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up.
​

• Hamas’ political thought and stances in light of the Arab uprisings; By Khalid Mishaal (2012)
First: Hamas’s Vision for the Palestinian Issue

Palestine, from its river to its sea, from its north to its south, is the land of the Palestinians; their homeland, and their legitimate right. We will not relinquish an inch or any part of it -for any reason or under any circumstances and pressures.​

Yes, while there are quite short moments in time, when Arab Palestinian Voice (or another) might express some interest in the Two-State Solution, the policy expressed by the Arab Palestinian --- consistently over time --- is that they oppose any such move. For the Arab Palestinian, for nearly, seven decades (1948-2016), is an "All or Nothing" position. Either they get to impose Arab Majority Rule and sovereignty over all the Mandate era Palestine, or they continue the use of force to achieve their political ends.

Most Respectfully,
R

• Statement of 6 February 1948 Communicated to the Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee
A/AC.21/10 16 February 1948

Mr. Nakhleh was an interesting person.

I first met Issa Nakhleh in the 1980s while he was still busily researching for his two volume "Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem". I learnt first hand of his personal history, a palestinian, a refugee, a man who had lost everything he had had. His house, his law office, his apartment house in Jerusalem and a banana plantation were, as he describes "usurped by the Zionists and Israeli war criminals ". A man's roots had been cut.

Issa fought all his life for a peaceful resolution to the many problems facing the Palestinian people, who are scattered all over the globe today. In fact, after he told me his personal history, I was surprised how peaceful yet at the same time determined he went after his business of documenting the history of his people, insisting that the political process, including especially the United Nations, should ultimately give the Palestinians back their homeland. Writes Mr. Nakhleh: The greatest Zionist and Israeli crime against me and six million other Palestinians is that they have deprived us of living in our ancestral homeland, Palestine, as citizens of our independent undivided Palestinian State.

Start of: Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem​

I'm afraid the Arab-Moslem psyche is one that is forever consumed with lamenting what they lost due to their own incompetence and ineptitudes, what they couldn't achieve, errors on their part they will insist were and still are the the fault of the Great Satan™, The Zionist Entity™, the kuffar and other assortments of conspirators and co-conspirators.

It's a complete lack of ownership of their own mistakes, a lack of ability to be held accountable and a willingness / need to be the perpetual victim.

You would think that the money supplied by the kuffar which maintains the Pal'istanian welfare fraud would come with conditions. One of those conditions would be that the Arab-Moslem terrorists / whiners go to school in Hong Kong or South Korea and learn how success can be achieved in spite of hardships, with a willingness to succeed... and the lack of a retrograde politico-religious ideology that keeps one forever enslaved.

Indeed, it was their own fault that they left their country at the point of a gun.

Indeed, If you mean the Arab-Moslem squatters in 1948, indeed, they did indeed leave at the point of a gun. Indeed, it was the guns of invading Arab-Moslem armies who did indeed push the Arab-Moslem squatters aside as the Arab-Moslem armies were indeed hoping for an islamo-genocide of the Jewish people who did indeed prevail against the Arab-Moslem invaders.

Indeed they did.

 

[Phoenall]

What is so funny, P F Tinmore ?

Where is the lie?

Saying they want peace. The article says what they want and it ain't peace. Saying they want a two state solution. They want Israel destroyed and run into the sea. So don't say they do.

Where do they say they don't want peace?

Cant you read ?



The 3,481 students who voted in favor of the Hamas-affiliated list want to see the destruction of Israel.

 

[Phoenall]

et al,

I'm not sure I understand the argument here. Periodically --- there are short-term Arab Palestinians thoughts expressed that they might support a two-State Solution. But, in the long-term, the political positions they consistently return to are:

• Statement of 6 February 1948 Communicated to the Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee
A/AC.21/10 16 February 1948

In conclusion, the Arab Higher Committee Delegation wishes to stress the following: (b) The Arabs of Palestine consider that any attempt by the Jews or any power group of powers to establish a Jewish state in Arab territory is an act of aggression which will be resisted in self-defense.
​

• Khartoum Resolution (1967)

NO peace with Israel
NO recognition of Israel
NO negotiations with Israel
​

• Palestinian National Covenant, the official charter of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) (1968)

Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit.
The partition of Palestine in 1947 and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and to their natural right in their homeland, and inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
The Balfour Declaration, the Mandate for Palestine, and everything that has been based upon them, are deemed null and void.
​

• HAMAS Covenant (1988)
Strategies of the Islamic Resistance Movement: Palestine Is Islamic aqf:

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up.
​

• Hamas’ political thought and stances in light of the Arab uprisings; By Khalid Mishaal (2012)
First: Hamas’s Vision for the Palestinian Issue

Palestine, from its river to its sea, from its north to its south, is the land of the Palestinians; their homeland, and their legitimate right. We will not relinquish an inch or any part of it -for any reason or under any circumstances and pressures.​

Yes, while there are quite short moments in time, when Arab Palestinian Voice (or another) might express some interest in the Two-State Solution, the policy expressed by the Arab Palestinian --- consistently over time --- is that they oppose any such move. For the Arab Palestinian, for nearly, seven decades (1948-2016), is an "All or Nothing" position. Either they get to impose Arab Majority Rule and sovereignty over all the Mandate era Palestine, or they continue the use of force to achieve their political ends.

Most Respectfully,
R

• Statement of 6 February 1948 Communicated to the Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee
A/AC.21/10 16 February 1948

Mr. Nakhleh was an interesting person.

I first met Issa Nakhleh in the 1980s while he was still busily researching for his two volume "Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem". I learnt first hand of his personal history, a palestinian, a refugee, a man who had lost everything he had had. His house, his law office, his apartment house in Jerusalem and a banana plantation were, as he describes "usurped by the Zionists and Israeli war criminals ". A man's roots had been cut.

Issa fought all his life for a peaceful resolution to the many problems facing the Palestinian people, who are scattered all over the globe today. In fact, after he told me his personal history, I was surprised how peaceful yet at the same time determined he went after his business of documenting the history of his people, insisting that the political process, including especially the United Nations, should ultimately give the Palestinians back their homeland. Writes Mr. Nakhleh: The greatest Zionist and Israeli crime against me and six million other Palestinians is that they have deprived us of living in our ancestral homeland, Palestine, as citizens of our independent undivided Palestinian State.

Start of: Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem​

I'm afraid the Arab-Moslem psyche is one that is forever consumed with lamenting what they lost due to their own incompetence and ineptitudes, what they couldn't achieve, errors on their part they will insist were and still are the the fault of the Great Satan™, The Zionist Entity™, the kuffar and other assortments of conspirators and co-conspirators.

It's a complete lack of ownership of their own mistakes, a lack of ability to be held accountable and a willingness / need to be the perpetual victim.

You would think that the money supplied by the kuffar which maintains the Pal'istanian welfare fraud would come with conditions. One of those conditions would be that the Arab-Moslem terrorists / whiners go to school in Hong Kong or South Korea and learn how success can be achieved in spite of hardships, with a willingness to succeed... and the lack of a retrograde politico-religious ideology that keeps one forever enslaved.

Indeed, it was their own fault that they left their country at the point of a gun.

So who forced them out of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Yemen and Iraq then ?

 

[Phoenall]

What is so funny, P F Tinmore ?

Where is the lie?

Saying they want peace. The article says what they want and it ain't peace. Saying they want a two state solution. They want Israel destroyed and run into the sea. So don't say they do.

Where do they say they don't want peace?

Stop playing dumb, Tinny. Read the third paragraph in the OP.

OK, so?

Was terrorism on the ballot?

YES

But you are too dumb to realise it

 

[Phoenall]

Saying they want peace. The article says what they want and it ain't peace. Saying they want a two state solution. They want Israel destroyed and run into the sea. So don't say they do.

Where do they say they don't want peace?

Stop playing dumb, Tinny. Read the third paragraph in the OP.

OK, so?

Was terrorism on the ballot?

Terrorism is in their blood, Bubba. In their Genes. In their psyche. Stop playing games. I don't have the patience of RoccoR

Sounds like Mein Kampf only the Palestinians replace the Jews.

Another dumb Nazi that tries to derail the thread.



LOSER the subject matter was the Palestinian lies, and yes it does look like mein Kampf with the Jews once again the recipients

 

[Phoenall]

The real Nazis were German and the ZioNazis, like you, Hoss and others, assumed their role of sustaining group superiority over people you can oppress.

Of topic derailment again freddy because you are losing the argument

 

[Phoenall]

Saying they want peace. The article says what they want and it ain't peace. Saying they want a two state solution. They want Israel destroyed and run into the sea. So don't say they do.

Where do they say they don't want peace?

Stop playing dumb, Tinny. Read the third paragraph in the OP.

OK, so?

Was terrorism on the ballot?

Terrorism is in their blood, Bubba. In their Genes. In their psyche. Stop playing games. I don't have the patience of RoccoR

Are you still pimping Israel's terrorist propaganda crap?

Is that all you have, the same tired meaningless islamonazi propaganda mantra

 

[Phoenall]

Can you point to any of this "Palestinian propaganda" that Tinmore is posting?

Read my replies to him OH! I forgot you cant as you don't want to see the truth so put me on ignore

 

[Phoenall]

Can you point to any of this "Palestinian propaganda" that Tinmore is posting?

Christ! Another one! Like pesky roaches. Someone turn on the lights.

The little genocidal psychopath now calls people he doesn't like roaches. You are so cool.

Do these mean anything to you

Punk
Zionazi
hasbara

they should as they are what you spew out when you are getting your but kicked, right after you try aqnd derail the thread

 

[P F Tinmore]

What is so funny, P F Tinmore ?

Where is the lie?

Saying they want peace. The article says what they want and it ain't peace. Saying they want a two state solution. They want Israel destroyed and run into the sea. So don't say they do.

Where do they say they don't want peace?

Cant you read ?



The 3,481 students who voted in favor of the Hamas-affiliated list want to see the destruction of Israel.

So, where is the lie?

 

[Hollie]

Why Do Palestinians Lie About Wanting Peace? And Two States?

Because they can. There's a UN funded welfare and Islamic terrorist maintenance program that continues the madness of furthering Islamist terrorism.

 

[Phoenall]

et al,

I'm not sure I understand the argument here. Periodically --- there are short-term Arab Palestinians thoughts expressed that they might support a two-State Solution. But, in the long-term, the political positions they consistently return to are:

• Statement of 6 February 1948 Communicated to the Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee
A/AC.21/10 16 February 1948

In conclusion, the Arab Higher Committee Delegation wishes to stress the following: (b) The Arabs of Palestine consider that any attempt by the Jews or any power group of powers to establish a Jewish state in Arab territory is an act of aggression which will be resisted in self-defense.
​

• Khartoum Resolution (1967)

NO peace with Israel
NO recognition of Israel
NO negotiations with Israel
​

• Palestinian National Covenant, the official charter of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) (1968)

Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit.
The partition of Palestine in 1947 and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and to their natural right in their homeland, and inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
The Balfour Declaration, the Mandate for Palestine, and everything that has been based upon them, are deemed null and void.
​

• HAMAS Covenant (1988)
Strategies of the Islamic Resistance Movement: Palestine Is Islamic aqf:

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up.
​

• Hamas’ political thought and stances in light of the Arab uprisings; By Khalid Mishaal (2012)
First: Hamas’s Vision for the Palestinian Issue

Palestine, from its river to its sea, from its north to its south, is the land of the Palestinians; their homeland, and their legitimate right. We will not relinquish an inch or any part of it -for any reason or under any circumstances and pressures.​

Yes, while there are quite short moments in time, when Arab Palestinian Voice (or another) might express some interest in the Two-State Solution, the policy expressed by the Arab Palestinian --- consistently over time --- is that they oppose any such move. For the Arab Palestinian, for nearly, seven decades (1948-2016), is an "All or Nothing" position. Either they get to impose Arab Majority Rule and sovereignty over all the Mandate era Palestine, or they continue the use of force to achieve their political ends.

Most Respectfully,
R

The partition of Palestine in 1947 and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and to their natural right in their homeland, and inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.​

Indeed, and they are correct.

Isn't that the Palestinian mantra that they claim are the borders of Palestine

 

[Hollie]

Why Do Palestinians Lie About Wanting Peace? And Two States?

Because they're suffering from a disease that has afflicted that portion of the world for 1,400 years.

“Plant a knife in the heart of your enemy”- Fatah student movement election campaign - PMW Bulletins


“Plant a knife in the heart of your enemy”
- Fatah student movement election campaign

Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah movement is promoting its student movement Shabiba’s election campaign at Birzeit University by posting the above poster [at the link, -ed.] on its official Facebook page.

The poster shows a knife dripping with blood, shaped as the PA’s map of “Palestine” that includes the PA areas as well as all of Israel. The entire map is painted in the colors of the Palestinian flag, implying Palestinian political sovereignty over Israel.
Text on the poster says:
“Plant it [the knife] in the heart of your enemy”
[Official Fatah Facebook page, April 26, 2016

 

[montelatici]

Palestinian Media Watch. More Hasbara.

 

[Hollie]

Palestinian Media Watch. More Hasbara.

I thought I heard the pitter-patter of little Monty's Islamo-tap dancing shoes.

 

[Hossfly]

Palestinian Media Watch. More Hasbara.

Somebody has to watch 'em.