Why Did My Friends Die in Iraq?

[HenryBHough]

are there many more like you in Oak Grove?

Come see for yourself. Admission is free. It's leaving that's sometimes a little difficult.

 

[bianco]

Why Did My Friends Die in Iraq?

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Because they joined the military/National Guard...voluntarily.
...and put themselves in the hands of the federal govt.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Is there anything more hypocritical than using our fallen troops as a soapbox to denounce politicians while spouting your own brand of political propaganda? Is there anything more disrespectful short of actually pissing on their graves? I don't think so.

 

[Bumberclyde]

Is there anything more hypocritical than using our fallen troops as a soapbox to denounce politicians while spouting your own brand of political propaganda? Is there anything more disrespectful short of actually pissing on their graves? I don't think so.

Digging them up and THEN pissing on them?

 

[georgephillip]

Is there anything more hypocritical than using our fallen troops as a soapbox to denounce politicians while spouting your own brand of political propaganda? Is there anything more disrespectful short of actually pissing on their graves? I don't think so.

What's worse than hypocrites pissing on dead vets?
Corporate tools who ignore the political economics of war which is designed to consign the next generation of vets to even greater disrespect:

"Confusion is 'monumental'

"The Department of Veterans Affairs said it is on track to process 1 million disability claims this year.

"With the war in Iraq over and the one in Afghanistan winding down, the VA is sorting through a backlog of more than 860,000 disability claims from American veterans. More than a quarter of those vets -- 228,000 -- have been waiting for a year or more."

Hundreds of thousands of war vets still waiting for health benefits - CNN.com

 

[Dot Com]

one reason Iraq was/is a clusterf*ck is that it wasn't properly thought out. Even OBL said the reason he went apeshit was because non-muslim troops were stationed in Saudi. So what does Bush II/Cheny/Kristol(google: PNAC)/& the other assorted neocons do? Put 1/2 million non-muslim troops in Iraq.

How's that workin out?

 

[georgephillip]

one reason Iraq was/is a clusterf*ck is that it wasn't properly thought out. Even OBL said the reason he went apeshit was because non-muslim troops were stationed in Saudi. So what does Bush II/Cheny/Kristol(google: PNAC)/& the other assorted neocons do? Put 1/2 million non-muslim troops in Iraq.

How's that workin out?

The only thing worse than believing Iraq wasn't carefully thought out is considering the possibility its invasion was the first step in a very carefully constructed design seeking to overthrow regimes in seven Muslim states in five years.

Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, and Iran were scheduled for regime change since November of 2001 if you believe Wesley Clark.

Perhaps Obama's slip up in Syria will derail the overall plan to redraw the borders of a New Middle East, but I wouldn't bet my childrens' freedom on it (if I had any)

 

[protectionist]

You all know I'm a 22+ years vet. So, this may come as a surprise - I totally agree with Ron Paul that we have no business involving ourselves in the internal conflicts of other counties. We were wrong to get involved in Vietnam and could've avoided it if only we'd treated Ho Chi Minh correcting during WII. We have no business in Kosovo, Croatia, Iraq, and Afghanistan. We certainly have no business getting involved in Africa - which out Bumbler-in-Chief is getting us into.

I also believe we should stop all foreign military aid. If countries want to obtain our military equipment, let them pay for them out of their own funds.

Spend all that money to defend our own borders and use it to deal with many of the problems we face here in the USA.

I'm 100% in favor of defending our borders, but it doesn't help to defend your borders if your get nuclear warheads raining down on you. And sometimes you have to go overseas to keep that from happening. Like now in 2014.

 

[9thIDdoc]

It has a mixed Shia and Sunni population. Most sources estimate that around 65% of Muslims in Iraq are Shia, and around 35% are Sunni.

Kill 'em all. Let Allah sort 'em out!

 

[9thIDdoc]

I just love the weighty opinions about war based on having seen a war movie once.

 

[georgephillip]

You all know I'm a 22+ years vet. So, this may come as a surprise - I totally agree with Ron Paul that we have no business involving ourselves in the internal conflicts of other counties. We were wrong to get involved in Vietnam and could've avoided it if only we'd treated Ho Chi Minh correcting during WII. We have no business in Kosovo, Croatia, Iraq, and Afghanistan. We certainly have no business getting involved in Africa - which out Bumbler-in-Chief is getting us into.

I also believe we should stop all foreign military aid. If countries want to obtain our military equipment, let them pay for them out of their own funds.

Spend all that money to defend our own borders and use it to deal with many of the problems we face here in the USA.

I'm 100% in favor of defending our borders, but it doesn't help to defend your borders if your get nuclear warheads raining down on you. And sometimes you have to go overseas to keep that from happening. Like now in 2014.

I notice you used the plural of warhead.
Is this what you meant?

"According to the Federation of American Scientists, an organization that assesses nuclear weapon stockpiles, in 2013, Russia possessed an estimated 8,500 total nuclear warheads of which 1,800 were strategically operational.[2] The organization also claims that the U.S. had an estimated total 7,700 nuclear warheads of which 1,950 were strategically operational."

If the US doesn't stop destabilizing the Middle East and Eurasia, we might get a red rain.

Russia and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Kinte]

You can blame a lot of this mess on the messiah and Congress. I wouldn't be surprised if Barry made an executive order to stop all veterans benefits, period!

 

[Dot Com]

^ you have a grand total of 5 posts here and you're already referring to the President as "Barry"? rw much?

 

[protectionist]

You all know I'm a 22+ years vet. So, this may come as a surprise - I totally agree with Ron Paul that we have no business involving ourselves in the internal conflicts of other counties. We were wrong to get involved in Vietnam and could've avoided it if only we'd treated Ho Chi Minh correcting during WII. We have no business in Kosovo, Croatia, Iraq, and Afghanistan. We certainly have no business getting involved in Africa - which out Bumbler-in-Chief is getting us into.

I also believe we should stop all foreign military aid. If countries want to obtain our military equipment, let them pay for them out of their own funds.

Spend all that money to defend our own borders and use it to deal with many of the problems we face here in the USA.

I'm 100% in favor of defending our borders, but it doesn't help to defend your borders if your get nuclear warheads raining down on you. And sometimes you have to go overseas to keep that from happening. Like now in 2014.

I notice you used the plural of warhead.
Is this what you meant?

"According to the Federation of American Scientists, an organization that assesses nuclear weapon stockpiles, in 2013, Russia possessed an estimated 8,500 total nuclear warheads of which 1,800 were strategically operational.[2] The organization also claims that the U.S. had an estimated total 7,700 nuclear warheads of which 1,950 were strategically operational."

If the US doesn't stop destabilizing the Middle East and Eurasia, we might get a red rain.

Russia and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No, that has nothing to do with what I meant. I was referring to the 100+ nuclear warheads in Pakistan, and the many more that lunatic groups like al Qaeda could buy, is they assume power in Iraq, and acquire all its oil wealth.

 

[Bumberclyde]

I'm 100% in favor of defending our borders, but it doesn't help to defend your borders if your get nuclear warheads raining down on you. And sometimes you have to go overseas to keep that from happening. Like now in 2014.

I notice you used the plural of warhead.
Is this what you meant?

"According to the Federation of American Scientists, an organization that assesses nuclear weapon stockpiles, in 2013, Russia possessed an estimated 8,500 total nuclear warheads of which 1,800 were strategically operational.[2] The organization also claims that the U.S. had an estimated total 7,700 nuclear warheads of which 1,950 were strategically operational."

If the US doesn't stop destabilizing the Middle East and Eurasia, we might get a red rain.

Russia and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No, that has nothing to do with what I meant. I was referring to the 100+ nuclear warheads in Pakistan, and the many more that lunatic groups like al Qaeda could buy, is they assume power in Iraq, and acquire all its oil wealth.

Just think of the upside, the US would have a good reason to do its favorite thing and invade a country, destroy it, and take it over, then leave. Repeat as needed.

 

[Bumberclyde]

You can blame a lot of this mess on the messiah and Congress. I wouldn't be surprised if Barry made an executive order to stop all veterans benefits, period!

Hey Kunta, republicans have to take some responsibility for what Barry's doing, after all, you had a guy in magic underwear running against him in the last election. Wtf did you expect?

 

[georgephillip]

I'm 100% in favor of defending our borders, but it doesn't help to defend your borders if your get nuclear warheads raining down on you. And sometimes you have to go overseas to keep that from happening. Like now in 2014.

I notice you used the plural of warhead.
Is this what you meant?

"According to the Federation of American Scientists, an organization that assesses nuclear weapon stockpiles, in 2013, Russia possessed an estimated 8,500 total nuclear warheads of which 1,800 were strategically operational.[2] The organization also claims that the U.S. had an estimated total 7,700 nuclear warheads of which 1,950 were strategically operational."

If the US doesn't stop destabilizing the Middle East and Eurasia, we might get a red rain.

Russia and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No, that has nothing to do with what I meant. I was referring to the 100+ nuclear warheads in Pakistan, and the many more that lunatic groups like al Qaeda could buy, is they assume power in Iraq, and acquire all its oil wealth.

If Iraq fragments into three sub-states like some are predicting with a Sh'ia statelet alongside Iran separated by a Baghdad city-state and a Sunni Iraq next to Syria, al-Qa'ida might have enough oil wealth to buy black market nukes; however, Pakistan would seem to have more to gain from maintaining "friendly" relations with the US:

"In support of United States invasion of Afghanistan, Pakistan armed forces received a huge military aid, financial funding, and training from the United States Armed Forces.

"According to the Ministry of Finance calculations, in the three years before the attacks of 11 September, Pakistan received approximately $9 million in American military aid.

"In the three years after, the number increased to $4.2 billion.

"Pakistan has maintained a strong military–to–military relations with the comprised 28-states military alliance, called the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO).[42]

"NATO regards military relations with Pakistan as 'partners across the globe.'[42]

"Lobbied and with a support provided by United States Secretary of State, General (retired) Collin Powell, Pakistan is designated as 'Major non-NATO ally' as of 2004.[43][44][45][46]

"One of the important country in NATO, France, has maintained crucial military relations with Pakistan armed forces, including in selling its submarine technology to Pakistan Navy and jet propulsion technology to Pakistan Air Force in last decades.[citation needed]

Pakistan Armed Forces - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[bayoubill]

Why did we invade Iraq?

Even if you're able to forgive bush and his cronies for putting us so deeply in debt that it will take generations to dig us out, the wanton and needless killing and maiming of so many Americans and others is just unforgivable.

Especially since vets ow have to keep fighting for every little crumb they get.

so how 'bout, while you're at it, you get cranked up about LBJ...?

 

[Bumberclyde]

Why Did My Friends Die in Iraq?

100% of the people who didn't go to Iraq survived. There's your clue.

 

[thanatos144]

You all know I'm a 22+ years vet. So, this may come as a surprise - I totally agree with Ron Paul that we have no business involving ourselves in the internal conflicts of other counties. We were wrong to get involved in Vietnam and could've avoided it if only we'd treated Ho Chi Minh correcting during WII. We have no business in Kosovo, Croatia, Iraq, and Afghanistan. We certainly have no business getting involved in Africa - which out Bumbler-in-Chief is getting us into.

I also believe we should stop all foreign military aid. If countries want to obtain our military equipment, let them pay for them out of their own funds.

Spend all that money to defend our own borders and use it to deal with many of the problems we face here in the USA.

and when the next world war starts?