Why Did My Friends Die in Iraq?

[HenryBHough]

What do you mean vets have to fight for every crumb?????
Obama has been President for 5 years...he hasn't fixed this???

That's the fun part. Obama is the bestest, most competentest, president evah, but he can't fix anything that Bush screwed up.

He dare not!

Because if He did He'd have nothing to whine about and people might notice some of the shit He pulls.

 

[Dot Com]

What do you mean vets have to fight for every crumb?????
Obama has been President for 5 years...he hasn't fixed this???

That's the fun part. Obama is the bestest, most competentest, president evah, but he can't fix anything that Bush screwed up.

He dare not!

Because if He did He'd have nothing to whine about and people might notice some of the shit He pulls.

NEWSFLASH!!! He's not up for reelection you partisan hack.

 

[9thIDdoc]

"...AFTER finding out the war-of-choice was unnecessary."
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That remains untrue. The American people were highly in favor of sending troops into Afghanistan and Iraq both times (not that we ever really left as we continued to fight there at intervals). You're simply spouting revisionist bullspit that actually has nothing to do with why they died.

 

[Dot Com]

according the Rightist neocons here, we should invade every country who treats their inhabitants badly. They claim to be deficit-hawks too This does not even take into the acct the shattered lives & broken families due to never-ending deployments.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

That's the fun part. Obama is the bestest, most competentest, president evah, but he can't fix anything that Bush screwed up.

He dare not!

Because if He did He'd have nothing to whine about and people might notice some of the shit He pulls.

NEWSFLASH!!! He's not up for reelection you partisan hack.

Why is he still campaigning then?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

according the Rightist neocons here, we should invade every country who treats their inhabitants badly. They claim to be deficit-hawks too This does not even take into the acct the shattered lives & broken families due to never-ending deployments.

I must be confused, I thought Obama and his responsibility to protect approach to foreign policy was a lefty paradigm. Did I miss another round of memos?

 

[9thIDdoc]

You seem to think Saddam was a terrorist who posed a threat to the US.
He never posed as great a threat to this country as those who get rich from wars and the private debt war requires.
If you're serious about respecting the fallen, make sure they didn't die in vain.
War Is A Racket, by Major General Smedley Butler, 1935

And you remain off topic. This is notabout politics. Not yours. Not mine. Nor anyone else's.

Who made you the decider?
This thread is about WHY Americans died in Iraq.
If you think that isn't about "politics", you're being disingenuous or you're trolling.

Who else can decide my opinion?
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This thread is about WHY Americans died in Iraq


Which is exactly what I keep trying to remind you and others
simply using this thread as a forum to present their personal views of politics and history and dramatically attempting to suggest that dead soldiers share their weird ass views. You have not attempted to address the question of why they died.

If you think that isn't about "politics", you're being disingenuous or you're trolling.

Bullshit. The politics relates to why they were sentand not a thing about why they died. They died because they were sent to do a dangerous job and were killed trying to do it.

 

[Dot Com]

Why Did My Friends Die in Iraq?

Why to do PNAC's bidding (a defunct rw think tank set-up by Kristol of Fox News) & to enrich mil industrial complex contractors on the taxpayer dime w/ no-bid contracts of course

 

[Intense]

Why did we invade Iraq?

Even if you're able to forgive bush and his cronies for putting us so deeply in debt that it will take generations to dig us out, the wanton and needless killing and maiming of so many Americans and others is just unforgivable.

Especially since vets ow have to keep fighting for every little crumb they get.

Maybe if Obama knew the answer to that, he would not have given up everything that was gained by their sacrifice, to score partisan points. So much for Human Rights and impartial justice, huh. What else do you and your kind want to surrender and abandon, while we are on the subject?

 

[9thIDdoc]

He dare not!

Because if He did He'd have nothing to whine about and people might notice some of the shit He pulls.

NEWSFLASH!!! He's not up for reelection you partisan hack.

Why is he still campaigning then?

Maybe he doesn't intend to step down when his term is over or he's impeached.

 

[Dot Com]

how many more years/decades should we stay there deficit hawks? And at what costs in lives & treasure? 4,000 more casualties? 5-10 more years? As it has been said many times before by the enemy, we have the time, they have the watch. Besides, it has turned into a training ground for up & coming terrists on the us taxpayer dime. Terrists go there to cut their teeth/get their bona fides. If GI's weren't there, there'd be no big draw for foreigners to go to that country.

This means something to me because I'm former active-duty- forward deployed and know what its like to be far away for extended periods of time. .03% of the country knows what thats like.

 

[9thIDdoc]

how many more years/decades should we stay there deficit hawks? And at what costs in lives & treasure? 4,000 more casualties? 5-10 more years? As it has been said many times before by the enemy, we have the time, they have the watch. Besides, it has turned into a training ground for up & coming terrists on the us taxpayer dime. Terrists go there to cut their teeth/get their bona fides. If GI's weren't there, there'd be no big draw for foreigners to go to that country.

This means something to me because I'm former active-duty- forward deployed and know what its like to be far away for extended periods of time. .03% of the country knows what thats like.

I was a combat medic in Vietnam. I've seen more than a little death and dying. And you're still an asshole for disrespecting our fallen.

 

[HenryBHough]

NEWSFLASH!!! He's not up for reelection you partisan hack.

Campaign speeches leading up to his anointment and then re-anointment. Have you been living in a cave all these years? Or just down there in Mom's basement with the windows painted over?

He promised.

Surely He delivered.....some Messiah He would be if he lied.

But....oh.....we do know all about that already, don't we!

 

[BlackSand]

how many more years/decades should we stay there deficit hawks? And at what costs in lives & treasure? 4,000 more casualties? 5-10 more years? As it has been said many times before by the enemy, we have the time, they have the watch. Besides, it has turned into a training ground for up & coming terrists on the us taxpayer dime. Terrists go there to cut their teeth/get their bona fides. If GI's weren't there, there'd be no big draw for foreigners to go to that country.

This means something to me because I'm former active-duty- forward deployed and know what its like to be far away for extended periods of time. .03% of the country knows what thats like.

I was a combat medic in Vietnam. I've seen more than a little death and dying. And you're still an asshole for disrespecting our fallen.

I would like to say I fought for Dottie's right to think and say whatever he likes ... But I didn't ... I fought for my brothers and sisters in arms.
Dottie can say whatever he likes ... May never understand the respect you talk about ... Because it takes a different kind of person to fill those shoes.

I don't know what it was like in Vietnam for you ... Who or what you lost in the process.
But that aside ... When what Dottie says pisses me off ... I just think about two of our fallen in particular (better than Dottie or I will ever be) ... And think about how I would have traded places with them if I could have.

When I think about that ... Whatever Dottie says just doesn't make a whole lot of difference.

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[Truthseeker420]

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Off topic and shameful disrespect.

Not off topic at all. He asked why his friends had to die and pointed out that his friends had to die so the rich warmongers could party.

 

[Truthseeker420]

"so you think that 10+ yr old, Repub-instigated, war of choice was a good idea?"

You assume a lot.
Yes, I think it was a good idea.
But it was (and continues)a terrorist instigated war and is no more a war of choice than any other.
Would you propose, like other rw'ers here, that we stay there and suffer more 1000's of casualties No.

"We already have 1000's killed and 10's of 1000's maimed, physically & psycologicall "

Just as we did in a few hours when the war was started by the terrorists. 9/11. It was in all the papers

BTW- I served and didn't refer to taxpayers (the ones who paid my check) "assholes".

I very often refer to taxpayers and the government as assholes for other reasons but I consider anyone who tries to make political points from dead soldiers the very worst of assholes. They died in service to the American people and while under orders of the officials elected to represent them. They died for America not for petty politics of a party. To claim otherwise is to dishonor them.
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They died for Haliburton in Iraq. The truth doesn't dishonor anyone.

The truth is that died doing the job America sent them to do. You're just another asshole trying to make political points disrespecting our fallen. Shame on you.

But it's okay for you to make political points "disrespecting our fallen"? What is that called?

 

[Dot Com]

how many more years/decades should we stay there deficit hawks? And at what costs in lives & treasure? 4,000 more casualties? 5-10 more years? As it has been said many times before by the enemy, we have the time, they have the watch. Besides, it has turned into a training ground for up & coming terrists on the us taxpayer dime. Terrists go there to cut their teeth/get their bona fides. If GI's weren't there, there'd be no big draw for foreigners to go to that country.

This means something to me because I'm former active-duty- forward deployed and know what its like to be far away for extended periods of time. .03% of the country knows what thats like.

I was a combat medic in Vietnam. I've seen more than a little death and dying. And you're still an asshole for disrespecting our fallen.

Pointing-out that that iraq was a voluntary colossal clusterfuck isn't about the troops. its about the ciivilian leadership that put them there old man. Meh, no getting through to you.

 

[9thIDdoc]

They died for Haliburton in Iraq. The truth doesn't dishonor anyone.

The truth is that died doing the job America sent them to do. You're just another asshole trying to make political points disrespecting our fallen. Shame on you.

But it's okay for you to make political points "disrespecting our fallen"? What is that called?

As I have said repeatedly it's not okay for anyone and I haven't done so and don't intend to.

 

[9thIDdoc]

"Pointing-out that that iraq was a voluntary colossal clusterfuck isn't about the troops..."

Exactly. That is a political opinion which you have every right to. But when you start making claims about what our troops died for and mixing that in with your political opinions (no matter what they are) you are showing gross disrespect. You are essentially standing on their bodies in your efforts to make political points. I consider that just about the same as walking into a church and pissing on the alter.

 

[9thIDdoc]

how many more years/decades should we stay there deficit hawks? And at what costs in lives & treasure? 4,000 more casualties? 5-10 more years? As it has been said many times before by the enemy, we have the time, they have the watch. Besides, it has turned into a training ground for up & coming terrists on the us taxpayer dime. Terrists go there to cut their teeth/get their bona fides. If GI's weren't there, there'd be no big draw for foreigners to go to that country.

This means something to me because I'm former active-duty- forward deployed and know what its like to be far away for extended periods of time. .03% of the country knows what thats like.

I was a combat medic in Vietnam. I've seen more than a little death and dying. And you're still an asshole for disrespecting our fallen.

I would like to say I fought for Dottie's right to think and say whatever he likes ... But I didn't ... I fought for my brothers and sisters in arms.
Dottie can say whatever he likes ... May never understand the respect you talk about ... Because it takes a different kind of person to fill those shoes.

I don't know what it was like in Vietnam for you ... Who or what you lost in the process.
But that aside ... When what Dottie says pisses me off ... I just think about two of our fallen in particular (better than Dottie or I will ever be) ... And think about how I would have traded places with them if I could have.

When I think about that ... Whatever Dottie says just doesn't make a whole lot of difference.

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I thank you for your kind words and I believe you are entirely correct.