Why did Black Folk fight for the US in the Second World War ?

[rightwinger]

Also, England had beaten back German invasion plans by the time we entered the war in late 1941

Due to Lend Lease.

The Lend-Lease policy, formally titled An Act to Promote the Defense of the United States, (Pub.L. 77–11, H.R. 1776, 55 Stat. 31, enacted March 11, 1941)[1] was a program under which the United States supplied the United Kingdom (and British Commonwealth), Free France, the Republic of China, and later the Soviet Union and other Allied nations with food, oil, and materiel between 1941 and August 1945. This included warships and warplanes, along with other weaponry. It was signed into law on March 11, 1941, and ended in September 1945. In general the aid was free, although some hardware (such as ships) were returned after the war. In return, the U.S. was given leases on army and naval bases in Allied territory during the war

LOL

What did black soldiers have to do with Lend Lease?
By March 1941, England had already turned back the German attack and Germany was diverted to invading Russia

 

[Sun Devil 92]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

If they had not fought, you'd have a swastica flapping in the breeze off of your parliment.

Be grateful and quite trying to look smart.

What would make you say that?
Most blacks in WWII were denied a combat role

Also, England had beaten back German invasion plans by the time we entered the war in late 1941

They won the air war. They were not going to withstand an invasion.

 

[Polishprince]

They would have been better off shooting whitey back home in Alabama and others.

Honkies and black people got along a lot better back in the day than modern liberals often assume.

The American people of all races loved Joe Louis, and on a local level, my grandfather always served African American customers in his store with no problems.

Sure, there were some difficulties, but the racism of the B. Hussein O years hadn't happened yet.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

If they had not fought, you'd have a swastica flapping in the breeze off of your parliment.

Be grateful and quite trying to look smart.

What would make you say that?
Most blacks in WWII were denied a combat role

Also, England had beaten back German invasion plans by the time we entered the war in late 1941

Because Germans couldn't Tank blitzkrieg an Island the same way they could the counties next to Germany.

 

[rightwinger]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

If they had not fought, you'd have a swastica flapping in the breeze off of your parliment.

Be grateful and quite trying to look smart.

What would make you say that?
Most blacks in WWII were denied a combat role

Also, England had beaten back German invasion plans by the time we entered the war in late 1941

They won the air war. They were not going to withstand an invasion.

Ever see D Day?

Hitler did not have the thousand invasion vessels and landing craft. He also lacked air superiority

 

[Questioner]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

The were drafted?

 

[Polishprince]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

BTW, there was some sympathy in the African American community for the Germans you know.

Here in America, the Black Gestapo was established, based on German teachings.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

If they had not fought, you'd have a swastica flapping in the breeze off of your parliment.

Be grateful and quite trying to look smart.

What would make you say that?
Most blacks in WWII were denied a combat role

Also, England had beaten back German invasion plans by the time we entered the war in late 1941

They won the air war. They were not going to withstand an invasion.

Ever see D Day?

Hitler did not have the thousand invasion vessels and landing craft. He also lacked air superiority

Are you really that ignorant ?

That wasn't the British.

Go away.

 

[rightwinger]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

If they had not fought, you'd have a swastica flapping in the breeze off of your parliment.

Be grateful and quite trying to look smart.

What would make you say that?
Most blacks in WWII were denied a combat role

Also, England had beaten back German invasion plans by the time we entered the war in late 1941

They won the air war. They were not going to withstand an invasion.

Ever see D Day?

Hitler did not have the thousand invasion vessels and landing craft. He also lacked air superiority

Are you really that ignorant ?

That wasn't the British.

Go away.

Hitler lacked the capability of invading across the English Channel
He was not about to invade across the Atlantic Ocean

 

[Polishprince]

If they had not fought, you'd have a swastica flapping in the breeze off of your parliment.

Be grateful and quite trying to look smart.

What would make you say that?
Most blacks in WWII were denied a combat role

Also, England had beaten back German invasion plans by the time we entered the war in late 1941

They won the air war. They were not going to withstand an invasion.

Ever see D Day?

Hitler did not have the thousand invasion vessels and landing craft. He also lacked air superiority

Are you really that ignorant ?

That wasn't the British.

Go away.

Hitler lacked the capability of invading across the English Channel
He was not about to invade across the Atlantic Ocean

No doubt invasions of America as well as England posed technical difficulties for the Germans. But that doesn't mean they weren't developing plans. Remember the Maginot Line was supposed to be invincible as well. Also, in June 1941, war broke out between the two Ultraliberal powers of Germany and the USSR as the former BFF's turned on each other. This kind of distraction really delayed Mr. Hitler's planned conquest of America.

My understanding was the agreement between Mr. Hitler and the Empire of Japan would have partition America along the Mississippi River with the east bank being German and those on the west being forced to speak Japanese.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

They would have been better off shooting whitey back home in Alabama and others.

Honkies and black people got along a lot better back in the day than modern liberals often assume.

The American people of all races loved Joe Louis, and on a local level, my grandfather always served African American customers in his store with no problems.

Sure, there were some difficulties, but the racism of the B. Hussein O years hadn't happened yet.

Do you actually believe the shit you post or are you a really subtle troll ?

 

[Polishprince]

They would have been better off shooting whitey back home in Alabama and others.

Honkies and black people got along a lot better back in the day than modern liberals often assume.

The American people of all races loved Joe Louis, and on a local level, my grandfather always served African American customers in his store with no problems.

Sure, there were some difficulties, but the racism of the B. Hussein O years hadn't happened yet.

Do you actually believe the shit you post or are you a really subtle troll ?

I've lived in America my whole life, I know what's going on here better than someone who just watches the Fake News media.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

They would have been better off shooting whitey back home in Alabama and others.

Honkies and black people got along a lot better back in the day than modern liberals often assume.

The American people of all races loved Joe Louis, and on a local level, my grandfather always served African American customers in his store with no problems.

Sure, there were some difficulties, but the racism of the B. Hussein O years hadn't happened yet.

Do you actually believe the shit you post or are you a really subtle troll ?

I've lived in America my whole life, I know what's going on here better than someone who just watches the Fake News media.

And you think Blacks were better off before the war than they were under Obama. You are an idiot.

 

[rightwinger]

What would make you say that?
Most blacks in WWII were denied a combat role

Also, England had beaten back German invasion plans by the time we entered the war in late 1941

They won the air war. They were not going to withstand an invasion.

Ever see D Day?

Hitler did not have the thousand invasion vessels and landing craft. He also lacked air superiority

Are you really that ignorant ?

That wasn't the British.

Go away.

Hitler lacked the capability of invading across the English Channel
He was not about to invade across the Atlantic Ocean

No doubt invasions of America as well as England posed technical difficulties for the Germans. But that doesn't mean they weren't developing plans. Remember the Maginot Line was supposed to be invincible as well. Also, in June 1941, war broke out between the two Ultraliberal powers of Germany and the USSR as the former BFF's turned on each other. This kind of distraction really delayed Mr. Hitler's planned conquest of America.

My understanding was the agreement between Mr. Hitler and the Empire of Japan would have partition America along the Mississippi River with the east bank being German and those on the west being forced to speak Japanese.

You watch too many movies

 

[Markle]

And you think Blacks were better off before the war than they were under Obama. You are an idiot.

As you know, and know well, is the fact that blacks are far better off under President Donald Trump.

Younger and Minority Workers Lead Wage Gains as Expansion Ages
Oct. 17, 2019, 8:59 AM

A tightening labor market with U.S. unemployment rate at a 50-year low is starting to result in higher wages for full-time workers, including younger people and minorities whose pay has lagged.

Median weekly earnings for Americans in the third quarter rose 3.6% to $919, outpacing inflation, the U.S. Labor Department reported Wednesday. Earnings for those aged 25 to 54, in their prime working years, rose by 5%, the fastest rate of growth in recent years.

Younger and Minority Workers Lead Wage Gains as Expansion Ages

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ECONOMY
Record-low black unemployment cheered by black activists
Published 1 month ago on September 9, 2019

[...]

“Love him or hate him, this is an incredible economic accomplishment for the President and a tremendous benefit for American blacks,” said Project 21 member Derryck Green.

Along with a reported third straight month of 3.7 percent overall unemployment, the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) August jobs report noted that the overall black unemployment rate fell half-a-percent to 5.5 percent. This is the lowest black unemployment rate ever recorded. BLS began reporting employment statistics by race in 1972. And with overall white unemployment at 3.4 percent, it is also the smallest reported gap between the races ever in terms of joblessness. Until recently, the racial employment disparity between blacks and whites has generally held to a 2-1 margin.

Record-low black unemployment cheered by black activists

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Help wanted: Too many jobs and not enough workers in most states
Tim Henderson, Stateline Published 8:00 a.m. CT Oct. 15, 2019 | Updated 7:10 p.m. CT Oct. 15, 2019

In 39 states, there are more jobs than people looking for them, according to a Stateline analysis of June hiring and employment data from the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Help wanted: Too many jobs and not enough workers in most states

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America Created 266,000 Jobs in November
JOHN CARNEY 6 Dec 2019

The imaginary recession of 2019 is over.

The U.S. economy added 266,000 jobs for the month and the unemployment rate fell to 3.5 percent, matching the lowest level in 50 years.

Economists had expected the economy to add 180,000 jobs and for unemployment to remain unchanged at 3.6 percent, according to Econoday.

Adding to the picture of strength for the labor market, previous jobs numbers were revised up. September’s figure was revised up by 13,000 to 193,000. October was revised up by 28,000 to 156,000. Together, that adds 41,000 more jobs than previously reported.
[...]
Average hourly wages are up 3.14 percent compared with last year, above economist expectations. In manufacturing, the average workweek increased by 0.1 hour to 40.5 hours. Average hourly ages of private-sector production and nonsupervisory employees rose by 7 cents in the month to $23.83, a 0.22 percent gain.
[...]
America Created 266,000 Jobs in November | Breitbart

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...economy-added-jobs-jobless-rate-fell-percent/

Wall Street soars after economy added robust 266,000 jobs in November

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USMCA: Agreement reached on Nafta trade deal replacement
10 December 2019

The US, Mexico and Canada have finalised a trade deal that will replace the 25-year-old North American Free Trade Agreement (Nafta).

Agreement reached on Nafta trade deal replacement

 

[regent]

I understood it was the High Brass that fought an integrated army in WWII, and we were at war.

 

[Polishprince]

I understood it was the High Brass that fought an integrated army in WWII, and we were at war.

During war time, generals will still follow orders from their superiors. If FDR didn't want a Jim Crow Army, we wouldn't have had one.

The facts are that America's army only had 180,000 men in 1938, and we ended up with 8 million during the war.

The 180,000 could have been kept segregated, and it would have made much of a difference if the other 7.8 million were desegregated as they came in.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

Did you know that the U.S. military only agreed to train the Tuskegee Airmen after a lawsuit was filed on their behalf?

In other words, they had to fight to obtain the right to train and be allowed to participate in the war effort same as their white counterparts even though they were fully capable for combat as they eventually proved.

Maybe it never occurred to them that after having proven themselves in battle at the risk and in the case of some, the loss of their own lives that they would return to an America that was just as racist as ever.

Or maybe the reason they did it was to prove to themselves and the rest of the world that they were as competent and qualified as their white counterparts.

In any case, the military was desegregated shortly after the end of the war, so they must have accomplished something when it came to improving the lives of others.

It is hereby declared to be the policy of the President that there shall be equality of treatment and opportunity for all persons in the armed services without regard to race, color, religion or national origin. This policy shall be put into effect as rapidly as possible, having due regard to the time required to effectuate any necessary changes without impairing efficiency or morale - Executive Order 9981 (1948)​

 

[rightwinger]

I understood it was the High Brass that fought an integrated army in WWII, and we were at war.

They did not want the headache of integration while in the middle of a war

 

[rightwinger]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

Did you know that the U.S. military only agreed to train the Tuskegee Airmen after a lawsuit was filed on their behalf?

In other words, they had to fight to obtain the right to train and be allowed to participate in the war effort same as their white counterparts even though they were fully capable for combat as they eventually proved.

Maybe it never occurred to them that after having proven themselves in battle at the risk and in the case of some, the loss of their own lives that they would return to an America that was just as racist as ever.

Or maybe the reason they did it was to prove to themselves and the rest of the world that they were as competent and qualified as their white counterparts.

In any case, the military was desegregated shortly after the end of the war, so they must have accomplished something when it came to improving the lives of others.

It is hereby declared to be the policy of the President that there shall be equality of treatment and opportunity for all persons in the armed services without regard to race, color, religion or national origin. This policy shall be put into effect as rapidly as possible, having due regard to the time required to effectuate any necessary changes without impairing efficiency or morale - Executive Order 9981 (1948)​

White soldiers returned from WWII to parades
Black soldiers were sent to the back of the bus