Why did Black Folk fight for the US in the Second World War ?

[Tommy Tainant]

Blacks fought for America, like Welsh fought for Britain?
Is there much of a difference there during WWII?

Welsh people could live where they wanted, eat where they wanted, travel where they wanted and drink where they wanted. They were not excluded from schools, libraries, jobs or any public institutions, unlike Black Americans. And we could vote. So there is a marked difference dopey.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Why did your county have slavery until 1830’s??

The UK outlawed slavery through an act of parliament. In the US half a million people died defending slavery and then conservative shits constructed a Jim Crow society to oppress these people for another century. Explain that.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Why did your county have slavery until 1830’s??

The UK outlawed slavery through an act of parliament. In the US half a million people died defending slavery and then conservative shits constructed a Jim Crow society to oppress these people for another century. Explain that.

Almost all of the slave owners in the United States were of British origins, including English, Scottish, Northern Irish, and Welsh.
Other slave owners may have existed, as there were some Black, German, Dutch, and French slave owners presumably too, but far less common in the USA at least.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Why did your county have slavery until 1830’s??

The UK outlawed slavery through an act of parliament. In the US half a million people died defending slavery and then conservative shits constructed a Jim Crow society to oppress these people for another century. Explain that.

Almost all of the slave owners in the United States were of British origins, including English, Scottish, Northern Irish, and Welsh.
Other slave owners may have existed, as there were some Black, German, Dutch, and French slave owners presumably too, but far less common in the USA at least.

No. They were all Americans.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Why did your county have slavery until 1830’s??

The UK outlawed slavery through an act of parliament. In the US half a million people died defending slavery and then conservative shits constructed a Jim Crow society to oppress these people for another century. Explain that.

Almost all of the slave owners in the United States were of British origins, including English, Scottish, Northern Irish, and Welsh.
Other slave owners may have existed, as there were some Black, German, Dutch, and French slave owners presumably too, but far less common in the USA at least.

No. They were all Americans.

A lot of Americans are of British roots.
Probably as much as 80% of White Americans have some kind of connection to the British Islands.
Even if it's just being partially English, Irish, Scottish, or Welsh.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Why did your county have slavery until 1830’s??

The UK outlawed slavery through an act of parliament. In the US half a million people died defending slavery and then conservative shits constructed a Jim Crow society to oppress these people for another century. Explain that.

Almost all of the slave owners in the United States were of British origins, including English, Scottish, Northern Irish, and Welsh.
Other slave owners may have existed, as there were some Black, German, Dutch, and French slave owners presumably too, but far less common in the USA at least.

No. They were all Americans.

A lot of Americans are of British roots.
Probably as much as 80% of White Americans have some kind of connection to the British Islands.
Even if it's just being partially English, Irish, Scottish, or Welsh.

And ?

 

[xyz]

Why did your county have slavery until 1830’s??

The UK outlawed slavery through an act of parliament. In the US half a million people died defending slavery and then conservative shits constructed a Jim Crow society to oppress these people for another century. Explain that.

Almost all of the slave owners in the United States were of British origins, including English, Scottish, Northern Irish, and Welsh.
Other slave owners may have existed, as there were some Black, German, Dutch, and French slave owners presumably too, but far less common in the USA at least.

Ireland was not separated at that time. I would say most had English or Scottish roots, the Welsh and Irish were generally poorer.

 

[Jitss617]

Why did your county have slavery until 1830’s??

The UK outlawed slavery through an act of parliament. In the US half a million people died defending slavery and then conservative shits constructed a Jim Crow society to oppress these people for another century. Explain that.

Lol democrats implemented Jim Crow lol

 

[MisterBeale]

Notice how he blithely ignored the India question, Britain ACTUALLY shot thousands of Indians who simply wanted freedom and he defends that shit while whining about America. That doesn't include all the blacks made 2nd and 3rd class citizens in other British colonies.

The British colonial record is hard to defend
The US was like South Africa

was?

Yes, was

Tell that to the indigenous Bolivians that were the victims of the CIA intervention.

What does that have to do with South Africa?

There is one bit of difference between the imperialism of the American and the British.

If you don't know how the banking cabal and global capitalism works, I certainly am not going to explain it all to you, you would deny it all any how.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Why did your county have slavery until 1830’s??

The UK outlawed slavery through an act of parliament. In the US half a million people died defending slavery and then conservative shits constructed a Jim Crow society to oppress these people for another century. Explain that.

Almost all of the slave owners in the United States were of British origins, including English, Scottish, Northern Irish, and Welsh.
Other slave owners may have existed, as there were some Black, German, Dutch, and French slave owners presumably too, but far less common in the USA at least.

Ireland was not separated at that time. I would say most had English or Scottish roots, the Welsh and Irish were generally poorer.

A good deal of African Americans also have Welsh surnames like Jones, or Davis.
Also some had Irish surnames, but that's likely from Ulster Irish Protestants, AKA Northern Irish who aren't real Irish.

 

[Markle]

Our black citizens were not allowed to vote in the south
They could not go where they wanted and were restricted from white areas after dark
Jim Crow was as conservative as it gets......it took Liberals to get the laws changed
Conservatives still fight over things like voting rights, affirmative action, integration

 

[Sun Devil 92]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

If they had not fought, you'd have a swastica flapping in the breeze off of your parliment.

Be grateful and quite trying to look smart.

 

[Unkotare]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

It was so they could get the chance to go shoot at mouthy, pretentious, hypocritical euro-douche bags like you.

 

[rightwinger]

Our black citizens were not allowed to vote in the south
They could not go where they wanted and were restricted from white areas after dark
Jim Crow was as conservative as it gets......it took Liberals to get the laws changed
Conservatives still fight over things like voting rights, affirmative action, integration

I love it when Republicans try to show us how liberal they were 50-150 years ago

Point is that White Supremacy is firmly entrenched in today’s RepubliKlan Party

 

[Tommy Tainant]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

It was so they could get the chance to go shoot at mouthy, pretentious, hypocritical euro-douche bags like you.

They would have been better off shooting whitey back home in Alabama and others.

 

[rightwinger]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

If they had not fought, you'd have a swastica flapping in the breeze off of your parliment.

Be grateful and quite trying to look smart.

What would make you say that?
Most blacks in WWII were denied a combat role

Also, England had beaten back German invasion plans by the time we entered the war in late 1941

 

[Markle]

They would have been better off shooting whitey back home in Alabama and others.

Instead of looking across the pond, it seems you should be taking care of your problems at home.

Racism rising since Brexit vote, nationwide study reveals
Survey shows 71% of people from ethnic minorities faced discrimination, up from 58%

• ‘Always the easiest excuse’: is racism rising in the UK’s most diverse area?

Ethnic minorities in Britain are facing rising and increasingly overt racism, with levels of discrimination and abuse continuing to grow in the wake of the Brexit referendum, nationwide research reveals.

Seventy-one percent of people from ethnic minorities now report having faced racial discrimination, compared with 58% in January 2016, before the EU vote, according to polling data seen by the Guardian.

The percentages of people from black and Asian backgrounds reporting racial discrimination have grown by more than 10 points since the EU referendum.

Racism rising since Brexit vote, nationwide study reveals

 

[Markle]

Also, England had beaten back German invasion plans by the time we entered the war in late 1941

Due to Lend Lease.

The Lend-Lease policy, formally titled An Act to Promote the Defense of the United States, (Pub.L. 77–11, H.R. 1776, 55 Stat. 31, enacted March 11, 1941)[1] was a program under which the United States supplied the United Kingdom (and British Commonwealth), Free France, the Republic of China, and later the Soviet Union and other Allied nations with food, oil, and materiel between 1941 and August 1945. This included warships and warplanes, along with other weaponry. It was signed into law on March 11, 1941, and ended in September 1945. In general the aid was free, although some hardware (such as ships) were returned after the war. In return, the U.S. was given leases on army and naval bases in Allied territory during the war

 

[Unkotare]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

It was so they could get the chance to go shoot at mouthy, pretentious, hypocritical euro-douche bags like you.

They would have been better off shooting whitey back home in Alabama and others.

A total of 0.00 Americans give a shit what some nosy hypocrite like you thinks.

 

[White 6]

It seems like an act of faith in something that didn't exist.

At home, the inherent racism of the US denied them the very "freedoms" they were dying for.

They fought in the First War and nothing really changed, they should have learned from that.

Having said that, being bombed in Europe was probably preferable to life in the slave states.

Did black people see their daily lives improve as a result of their sacrifice ?

They fought so that your country wouldn't become part of Nazi Germany.

Although I don't know why they bothered, considering how many blacks and other indigenous people were murdered through hundreds of years of British colonialist genocide.

Patriotism has always been an act of faith, no matter the color of you skin. In other cases, there was a draft. Once taught a class on "Why do men Fight". One of the premises I supported in instruction was that when you get to the battle you are fighting for your brothers in arms, that the common effort was the best way to stay alive and get back to mom and apple pie.