Why Did, And Why Do, So Many Self-Proclaimed Conservative Side w/Rush On Sandra Fluke

[Quantum Windbag]

To distance yourself from the Republican party because of what Rush said is silly to me.
Just like the Libs blaming all the problems of the world on president Bush is just as silly.

On this issue, it's not just because of what Rush said, it's that no one in the Republican Party stood up on behalf of Sandra Fluke or defended her right to speak to the Committee. In fact, is they said anything at all, they defended Rush and his comments.

When you also consider that the only states putting impediments in the way of women obtaining abortions in the form of transvaginal ultrasounds, are all Republican states, and that all of the legitimate rape guys are Republicans. The same people who don't want to have businesses regulated, sure do want to have women regulated.

As long as Republicans talk about women's reproductive issues as something they have a right to control, women will not vote Republican. Not the smart ones anyway.

I don't remember anyone saying she didn't have a right to speak. I do remember calling her out for lying. I also recall the knee jerk reaction from people like you defending her, and her lies, despite the proof that birth control is not a major expense for the average college student.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Didn't Sara Fluke testify that she wanted government mandated insurance to pay for her birth control? I'd call her a slut.

Every time a Republican supporter calls Fluke a slut, a bell rings, and another feminist is born angel gets his wings.

What if the person who calls her a slut supports Obama?

 

[Dragonlady]

I don't remember anyone saying she didn't have a right to speak. I do remember calling her out for lying. I also recall the knee jerk reaction from people like you defending her, and her lies, despite the proof that birth control is not a major expense for the average college student.

What lies did she tell? She was talking about the difficulty for women to get their birth control paid for when they have medical conditions, like endometriosis, for which BCP's are a primary form of treatment.

The bald fact is that birth control pills should be covered by health insurance. Period. End of story. Not covering birth control should not be any option for any employer. Let the patient decide what is morally right for her, not her employer.

 

[Pogo]

To distance yourself from the Republican party because of what Rush said is silly to me.
Just like the Libs blaming all the problems of the world on president Bush is just as silly.

On this issue, it's not just because of what Rush said, it's that no one in the Republican Party stood up on behalf of Sandra Fluke or defended her right to speak to the Committee. In fact, is they said anything at all, they defended Rush and his comments.

When you also consider that the only states putting impediments in the way of women obtaining abortions in the form of transvaginal ultrasounds, are all Republican states, and that all of the legitimate rape guys are Republicans. The same people who don't want to have businesses regulated, sure do want to have women regulated.

As long as Republicans talk about women's reproductive issues as something they have a right to control, women will not vote Republican. Not the smart ones anyway.

I don't remember anyone saying she didn't have a right to speak. I do remember calling her out for lying. I also recall the knee jerk reaction from people like you defending her, and her lies, despite the proof that birth control is not a major expense for the average college student.

What lying?? ??

The only lying has been from Rash Limpjaw and his sycophants in threads like this. If that's not the case, then why did Lush issue a walletfelt apology on March 3rd?

Unless you can document this, your assertion of "lying" is itself a lie. Like that guy back in post 95 four days ago. I'm still waiting for documentation on that one, but once I called him on it, he ran away because he's a liar and a coward.

Your move...

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I don't remember anyone saying she didn't have a right to speak. I do remember calling her out for lying. I also recall the knee jerk reaction from people like you defending her, and her lies, despite the proof that birth control is not a major expense for the average college student.

What lies did she tell? She was talking about the difficulty for women to get their birth control paid for when they have medical conditions, like endometriosis, for which BCP's are a primary form of treatment.

The bald fact is that birth control pills should be covered by health insurance. Period. End of story. Not covering birth control should not be any option for any employer. Let the patient decide what is morally right for her, not her employer.

No she wasn't, she said that the average co ed couldn't afford any form of contraception, even free condoms from Planned Parenthood or the $10 bucks a month at the local WalMart to get the pill, and admitted she deliberately went to a Catholic University to force them to provide birth control to everyone free of charge.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

On this issue, it's not just because of what Rush said, it's that no one in the Republican Party stood up on behalf of Sandra Fluke or defended her right to speak to the Committee. In fact, is they said anything at all, they defended Rush and his comments.

When you also consider that the only states putting impediments in the way of women obtaining abortions in the form of transvaginal ultrasounds, are all Republican states, and that all of the legitimate rape guys are Republicans. The same people who don't want to have businesses regulated, sure do want to have women regulated.

As long as Republicans talk about women's reproductive issues as something they have a right to control, women will not vote Republican. Not the smart ones anyway.

I don't remember anyone saying she didn't have a right to speak. I do remember calling her out for lying. I also recall the knee jerk reaction from people like you defending her, and her lies, despite the proof that birth control is not a major expense for the average college student.

What lying?? ??

The only lying has been from Rash Limpjaw and his sycophants in threads like this. If that's not the case, then why did Lush issue a walletfelt apology on March 3rd?

Unless you can document this, your assertion of "lying" is itself a lie. Like that guy back in post 95 four days ago. I'm still waiting for documentation on that one, but once I called him on it, he ran away because he's a liar and a coward.

Your move...

Go back and read the threads form the time, there are plenty of them.

 

[Pogo]

I don't remember anyone saying she didn't have a right to speak. I do remember calling her out for lying. I also recall the knee jerk reaction from people like you defending her, and her lies, despite the proof that birth control is not a major expense for the average college student.

What lying?? ??

The only lying has been from Rash Limpjaw and his sycophants in threads like this. If that's not the case, then why did Lush issue a walletfelt apology on March 3rd?

Unless you can document this, your assertion of "lying" is itself a lie. Like that guy back in post 95 four days ago. I'm still waiting for documentation on that one, but once I called him on it, he ran away because he's a liar and a coward.

Your move...

Go back and read the threads form the time, there are plenty of them.

Thanks for the instant cop-out. At least I didn't have to wait four days.

Guess it's my job to look up your point... unbelievable.

Pfffft.

 

[edthecynic]

I don't remember anyone saying she didn't have a right to speak. I do remember calling her out for lying. I also recall the knee jerk reaction from people like you defending her, and her lies, despite the proof that birth control is not a major expense for the average college student.

What lies did she tell? She was talking about the difficulty for women to get their birth control paid for when they have medical conditions, like endometriosis, for which BCP's are a primary form of treatment.

The bald fact is that birth control pills should be covered by health insurance. Period. End of story. Not covering birth control should not be any option for any employer. Let the patient decide what is morally right for her, not her employer.

No she wasn't, she said that the average co ed couldn't afford any form of contraception, even free condoms from Planned Parenthood or the $10 bucks a month at the local WalMart to get the pill, and admitted she deliberately went to a Catholic University to force them to provide birth control to everyone free of charge.

She said no such thing, which is why you will never link to a quote from her. You can only find such a claim from your MessiahRushie and the GOP hate media echo chamber.

Before you can get the pill for $15 - $50 per month at Walmart you need to be examined by a doctor and then have the pill prescribed and the prescription periodically renewed. Those doctor visits are not free!


Why birth control pills need to be prescribed | Fox News


I fail to agree with the latest recommendations from the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists – declaring it is safe to sell birth control pills without prescriptions.
I do agree that birth control pills are relatively safe. However, there are some patients who require an assessment of risk factors before taking birth control, and some of these can only be identified during a medical visit. Many women in this country do not realize that lifestyle can affect the potential side effects of any prescription or non-prescription medication. From obesity and hypertension to smoking and blood-clotting disorders, many factors can influence the behavior of certain drugs – especially birth control.
According to the World Health Organization, many women with certain conditions should refrain from using birth control pills altogether. These conditions include liver disease, breast cancer, some types of diabetes, hypertension and heart disease, coronary artery disease and more.

 

[RosieS]

Pogo and Ed.....you guys are GOOD. Refuting with actual facts can be tiresome, but you both are doing a fantastic job. Kudos to you both, hat's off, three cheers and x 2

Regards from Rosie

 

[Dragonlady]

No she wasn't, she said that the average co ed couldn't afford any form of contraception, even free condoms from Planned Parenthood or the $10 bucks a month at the local WalMart to get the pill, and admitted she deliberately went to a Catholic University to force them to provide birth control to everyone free of charge.

That is not what she said at all. This is the text of Ms. Fluke's testimony:

Full Transcript of Sandra Fluke's Testimony - LGF Pages

This woman is a law student, giving serious testimony about violations of women's rights, not some air-head wanting to have her good time funded, as you and others here are painting her to be.

You're no better than those who told the lies in the first place.

 

[MarcATL]

To distance yourself from the Republican party because of what Rush said is silly to me.
Just like the Libs blaming all the problems of the world on president Bush is just as silly.

On this issue, it's not just because of what Rush said, it's that no one in the Republican Party stood up on behalf of Sandra Fluke or defended her right to speak to the Committee. In fact, is they said anything at all, they defended Rush and his comments.

When you also consider that the only states putting impediments in the way of women obtaining abortions in the form of transvaginal ultrasounds, are all Republican states, and that all of the legitimate rape guys are Republicans. The same people who don't want to have businesses regulated, sure do want to have women regulated.

As long as Republicans talk about women's reproductive issues as something they have a right to control, women will not vote Republican. Not the smart ones anyway.

So true.

Pogo and Ed.....you guys are GOOD. Refuting with actual facts can be tiresome, but you both are doing a fantastic job. Kudos to you both, hat's off, three cheers and x 2

Regards from Rosie

I second that motion.

No she wasn't, she said that the average co ed couldn't afford any form of contraception, even free condoms from Planned Parenthood or the $10 bucks a month at the local WalMart to get the pill, and admitted she deliberately went to a Catholic University to force them to provide birth control to everyone free of charge.

That is not what she said at all. This is the text of Ms. Fluke's testimony:

Full Transcript of Sandra Fluke's Testimony - LGF Pages

This woman is a law student, giving serious testimony about violations of women's rights, not some air-head wanting to have her good time funded, as you and others here are painting her to be.

You're no better than those who told the lies in the first place.

You know, if Far RW radical Republicans didn't lie....they'd have nothing to say.

 

[JoeB131]

The thing is, there actually was a valid policy argument here.

Should organizations be forced to pay for insurance when it covers things that violate their beliefs. Personally, I don't think there should be an exemption. If you are going to make health care a form of compensation instead of a public service like every other civilized country has done, then that compensation should not be limited to the beliefs of the provider.

And it was completely overshadowed by Limbaugh's vile comments.

 

[Stephanie]

The thing is, there actually was a valid policy argument here.

Should organizations be forced to pay for insurance when it covers things that violate their beliefs. Personally, I don't think there should be an exemption. If you are going to make health care a form of compensation instead of a public service like every other civilized country has done, then that compensation should not be limited to the beliefs of the provider.

And it was completely overshadowed by Limbaugh's vile comments.

oh brother, Limbaugh's vile comments..the only reason people heard what he said is because of you on the left having a cow over it...blame yourselves

the fluke was a fluke and will remain one

 

[JoeB131]

The thing is, there actually was a valid policy argument here.

Should organizations be forced to pay for insurance when it covers things that violate their beliefs. Personally, I don't think there should be an exemption. If you are going to make health care a form of compensation instead of a public service like every other civilized country has done, then that compensation should not be limited to the beliefs of the provider.

And it was completely overshadowed by Limbaugh's vile comments.

oh brother, Limbaugh's vile comments..the only reason people heard what he said is because of you on the left having a cow over it...blame yourselves

Funny, I thought the reason we heard about it was because 500 radio stations across the country carry his show.

Although it was afew less after that.

 

[Stephanie]

The thing is, there actually was a valid policy argument here.

Should organizations be forced to pay for insurance when it covers things that violate their beliefs. Personally, I don't think there should be an exemption. If you are going to make health care a form of compensation instead of a public service like every other civilized country has done, then that compensation should not be limited to the beliefs of the provider.

And it was completely overshadowed by Limbaugh's vile comments.

oh brother, Limbaugh's vile comments..the only reason people heard what he said is because of you on the left having a cow over it...blame yourselves

Funny, I thought the reason we heard about it was because 500 radio stations across the country carry his show.

Although it was afew less after that.

you people didn't get that upset when Maher called Palin a cxxt..or Letterman said she looked like a slutty flight attendant..you people are such phonies

 

[Sarah G]

The thing is, there actually was a valid policy argument here.

Should organizations be forced to pay for insurance when it covers things that violate their beliefs. Personally, I don't think there should be an exemption. If you are going to make health care a form of compensation instead of a public service like every other civilized country has done, then that compensation should not be limited to the beliefs of the provider.

And it was completely overshadowed by Limbaugh's vile comments.

oh brother, Limbaugh's vile comments..the only reason people heard what he said is because of you on the left having a cow over it...blame yourselves

Funny, I thought the reason we heard about it was because 500 radio stations across the country carry his show.

Although it was afew less after that.

And also he is desperately attempting to hold on to his wingnut rockstar status by finding more and more extreme things to say for 3 hours a day.

He's having trouble justifying his existence these days.

 

[Sarah G]

oh brother, Limbaugh's vile comments..the only reason people heard what he said is because of you on the left having a cow over it...blame yourselves

Funny, I thought the reason we heard about it was because 500 radio stations across the country carry his show.

Although it was afew less after that.

you people didn't get that upset when Maher called Palin a cxxt..or Letterman said she looked like a slutty flight attendant..you people are such phonies

HaHa. She does dress like a slutty flight attendant.

 

[JoeB131]

oh brother, Limbaugh's vile comments..the only reason people heard what he said is because of you on the left having a cow over it...blame yourselves

Funny, I thought the reason we heard about it was because 500 radio stations across the country carry his show.

Although it was afew less after that.

you people didn't get that upset when Maher called Palin a cxxt..or Letterman said she looked like a slutty flight attendant..you people are such phonies

Palin is a politician and a public figure.

My problem with Palin is how someone that stupid could be a public figure in this country, or rise to national prominance before everyone got the joke.

 

[Stephanie]

Funny, I thought the reason we heard about it was because 500 radio stations across the country carry his show.

Although it was afew less after that.

you people didn't get that upset when Maher called Palin a cxxt..or Letterman said she looked like a slutty flight attendant..you people are such phonies

Palin is a politician and a public figure.

My problem with Palin is how someone that stupid could be a public figure in this country, or rise to national prominance before everyone got the joke.

you don't seem to mind all the stupid people in the Democrat party..how funny
Biden makes Palin look like a genius

 

[JoeB131]

oh brother, Limbaugh's vile comments..the only reason people heard what he said is because of you on the left having a cow over it...blame yourselves

Funny, I thought the reason we heard about it was because 500 radio stations across the country carry his show.

Although it was afew less after that.

And also he is desperately attempting to hold on to his wingnut rockstar status by finding more and more extreme things to say for 3 hours a day.

He's having trouble justifying his existence these days.

Which is part of the problem. Talk Radio is kind of going through the same death cycle that Talk shows went through. They have to get increasingly extreme to get attention.

So much as we had the kind of devolution that started with Phil Donahue to Oprah to Geraldo to Maury to Jerry Springer.... In talk Radio, we have devolution from Paul Harvey to Rush Limbaugh to Glenn Beck.