Why Did, And Why Do, So Many Self-Proclaimed Conservative Side w/Rush On Sandra Fluke

[edthecynic]

He distorted her words and message to say that she wants the government to pay for her to have sex.

She does. Where is the distortion?

Sandra Fluke is a slut. Her entire speech was about how she needed to have someone else pay for her sex life. She isn't a porn star, she doesn't have that much integrity. I don't want to see her have sex, but it would be a good way to reimburse the taxpayers for their losses.

You Honor:

I present to you Exhibits A and B.

Clearly the subjects are full-on supporters of Rush Limbaugh and agree with his every word, clearly.

Exactly, they are perfect examples of the mindlessness of the Misinformation Voter the GOP depends upon.

 

[Sarah G]

Sandra Fluke is a slut. Her entire speech was about how she needed to have someone else pay for her sex life. She isn't a porn star, she doesn't have that much integrity. I don't want to see her have sex, but it would be a good way to reimburse the taxpayers for their losses.

So in your opinion, porn stars have integrity? They all use birth control you know.

 

[ArmyCowboy]

is it right to deny these reasons to patients for the sake of someone elses religious beliefs?

Furthermore, Georgetown University sponsored health insurance provides birth control for faculty and staff, just not students.

And Walmart sells it for $9 a month. Regardless, the idea that someone who can afford to go to Georgetown Law School, yet can't afford birth control pills is absurd on its face. Sandra Fluke is a spoiled, entitled little **** who has never lifted a finger to help herself in her entire life. I hope she gets flattened by a bus.

Wait, she's attending law school so that she can have a career as a lawyer and provide for herself, but she has never lifted a finger to help herself in her entire life?

Either you don't read what you're typing or you're not very bright.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

You are a hard RW hack who want's to control other's actions and determine how they live their lives.

Boy, that accusation is a riot coming from an oppressive authoritarian Marxist filth like you. Actually, Carlton, I'm someone who wants people to be responsible for themselves, to make their own decisions with their lives, and suffer the consequences of those decisions when they make poor ones.

At no point in Sandra Fluke's account did she mention sex or her desire to have anyone pay for it. Yet, somehow, you and other far RW reactionary radicals intepreted her words that way.

That was the premise of her entire testimony, but you already knew that.

*SMH*

Keep shaking it until it falls off.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Exactly, they are perfect examples of the mindlessness of the Misinformation Voter the GOP depends upon.

I'm not GOP, but don't let facts get in the way of your bias, Komrade. Who are you to accuse anybody of being misinformed?

 

[MarcATL]

You are a radical RW hack Taz. And one of the worse kind.

I always suspected you.

I never quite bought into your libertarian schtick.

You are just another hard core neo-con that fully supported Bush until he became unpopular and retreated to the RW closet under the guise of "Libertarian."

I have no respect for you whatsoever.

I take your contempt as a sign of honor and wear it with pride.

Carry on.

 

[Katzndogz]

Why should people in terrible pain be denied painkillers just because some addicts take the pain killers who don't actually need them?

Ask Mayor Bloomberg.

Sandra Fluke was not talking about a few women with medical conditions but the financial burden birth control put on HER (she doesn't need anything except getting her hole filled) and other women who have to spend money getting to and from the clinic where they would get their BC free.

Wasn't it at one time a matter of courtesy for a man to provide a condom? In reality, it isn't just that Fluke wanted her sex life subsidized. She wanted the men to have their sex lives subsidized too! If a woman intends to have promiscuous sex, the least she should be able to do for herself is ask the guy to contribute to her birth control obligation. Each of them could kick in a couple of bucks. Who knows, she might actually make a profit!

 

[MarcATL]

Why should people in terrible pain be denied painkillers just because some addicts take the pain killers who don't actually need them?

Ask Mayor Bloomberg.

Sandra Fluke was not talking about a few women with medical conditions but the financial burden birth control put on HER (she doesn't need anything except getting her hole filled) and other women who have to spend money getting to and from the clinic where they would get their BC free.

Wasn't it at one time a matter of courtesy for a man to provide a condom? In reality, it isn't just that Fluke wanted her sex life subsidized. She wanted the men to have their sex lives subsidized too! If a woman intends to have promiscuous sex, the least she should be able to do for herself is ask the guy to contribute to her birth control obligation. Each of them could kick in a couple of bucks. Who knows, she might actually make a profit!

You should preach this message every chance you get, on every platform you have access to.

I believe it will work out good.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

You are a radical RW hack Taz. And one of the worse kind.

I always suspected you.

I never quite bought into your libertarian schtick.

You are just another hard core neo-con that fully supported Bush until he became unpopular and retreated to the RW closet under the guise of "Libertarian."

I have no respect for you whatsoever.

I take your contempt as a sign of honor and wear it with pride.

Carry on.

Red Herring. I take that as a sign of honor and wear it with pride.

Carry on, Carlton.

 

[edthecynic]

Exactly, they are perfect examples of the mindlessness of the Misinformation Voter the GOP depends upon.

I'm not GOP, but don't let facts get in the way of your bias, Komrade. Who are you to accuse anybody of being misinformed?

August 26, 2008
RUSH: "When critics get it right, then you reply," and when you reply to something they've gotten right, it's evidence that the critic has gotten to you.

 

[JoeB131]

Sandra Fluke is a slut. Her entire speech was about how she needed to have someone else pay for her sex life. She isn't a porn star, she doesn't have that much integrity. I don't want to see her have sex, but it would be a good way to reimburse the taxpayers for their losses.

No, her speech was about how her friend had a medical condition that required the same drugs they use for birth control that her university won't include on the Health Plan students pay for.

This is the point. The taxpayers don't pay for her health care. the Students or their parents do. But because the Men In Dresses think their Magic Sky Pixie doesn't want anyone to have sex for the pure enjoyment of it, this woman had to jump through a lot of hoops to get what she had already paid for.

There was also the sheer absurdity of congress holding hearings on this subject and not calling one woman to testify.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Exactly, they are perfect examples of the mindlessness of the Misinformation Voter the GOP depends upon.

I'm not GOP, but don't let facts get in the way of your bias, Komrade. Who are you to accuse anybody of being misinformed?

August 26, 2008
RUSH: "When critics get it right, then you reply," and when you reply to something they've gotten right, it's evidence that the critic has gotten to you.

So now you think Rush Limbaugh is credible? You really need to make up your mind. Which is it?

 

[JoeB131]

I think this incident is emblematic of the problem with not just the GOP, but the country as a whole.

Because so many districts are gerrymandered, because only the most fanatical partisans participate in the primary process, in order to win nomination, you have to win over he extreme. And in that process, you don't dare anger an opinion-maker of the extreme like Limbaugh.

The thing is, Limbaugh has no interest in helping Republicans get elected. He enjoys a much more rabid audience when criticizing a Clinton or Obama than he does trying to rationalize why a Bush had to make a comprimise to get something done.

The same could be said to a lesser degree about the "opinion making" side of Fox News. (There is a side of Fox News that actually wants to be taken seriously as journalism, but find themselves pigeon-holed by the O'Reilly's and Hannitys of the world.)

 

[Meathead]

No one cares that Fluke is a slut except maybe the guys who wants to boink her. She can pay for her birth control or get her partners to chip in. It's when she asks the rest of us to pay for her desire to have sex without risking pregnancy, that Limbaugh and the rest of America have the right to opine. That's the way it works. Many, including myself, do not feel that her choices should come at our expense.

 

[JoeB131]

No one cares that Fluke is a slut except maybe the guys who wants to boink her. She can pay for her birth control or get her partners to chip in. It's when she asks the rest of us to pay for her desire to have sex without risking pregnancy, that Limbaugh and the rest of America have the right to opine. That's the way it works. Many, including myself, do not feel that her choices should come at our expense.

Again, no one is asking you to pay for her birth control.

Health Care is part of the package that Georgetown students pay for. (Or their parents. Or the kids themselves when they indebt themselves for life on student loans.)

The real question is, after someone has paid for health care or worked for health care, does an employer or a university or whoever is managing the health care plan you are paying/working for have a right to say what kind of treatment you can get because your Invisibile Sky Pixie doesn't approve?

Common sense says, "No".

 

[Meathead]

No one cares that Fluke is a slut except maybe the guys who wants to boink her. She can pay for her birth control or get her partners to chip in. It's when she asks the rest of us to pay for her desire to have sex without risking pregnancy, that Limbaugh and the rest of America have the right to opine. That's the way it works. Many, including myself, do not feel that her choices should come at our expense.

Again, no one is asking you to pay for her birth control.

Health Care is part of the package that Georgetown students pay for. (Or their parents. Or the kids themselves when they indebt themselves for life on student loans.)

The real question is, after someone has paid for health care or worked for health care, does an employer or a university or whoever is managing the health care plan you are paying/working for have a right to say what kind of treatment you can get because your Invisibile Sky Pixie doesn't approve?

Common sense says, "No".

Common sense dictates that there is no such thing as a free meal. Common sense also tells us that birth control is a product whose producers charge for. She wants this product in much the same way an insurance company is bound to provide medication to those suffering from some sort of medical condition.

Pay attention now, here common sense tells us everyone else's premiums must be raised to pay for it. A fertile woman who wishes to have sex is not a medial condition, it is a choice and as such is the responsibility of the woman and her partners. Policies where birth control is covered are clearly available with perhaps a slightly higher premium.

My policy does not cover flu shots, so if I wish to have a flu shot I must pay for it, or find another policy with higher premiums that will cover it. There is damn little I can do to avoid getting the flu in functioning day-to-day and perhaps coming in contact with those infected. Fluke, on the other hand has several choices.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Sandy Fluke wanted her twat to get national attention and Rush obliged

 

[JoeB131]

Common sense dictates that there is no such thing as a free meal. Common sense also tells us that birth control is a product whose producers charge for. She wants this product in much the same way an insurance company is bound to provide medication to those suffering from some sort of medical condition.

Pay attention now, here common sense tells us everyone else's premiums must be raised to pay for it. A fertile woman who wishes to have sex is not a medial condition, it is a choice and as such is the responsibility of the woman and her partners. Policies where birth control is covered are clearly available with perhaps a slightly higher premium.

My policy does not cover flu shots, so if I wish to have a flu shot I must pay for it, or find another policy with higher premiums that will cover it. There is damn little I can do to avoid getting the flu in functioning day-to-day and perhaps coming in contact with those infected. Fluke, on the other hand has several choices.

This was never an economic issue. The Insurance companies are THRILLED to pay for birth control, guy. Since birth control costs $300.00 and a live birth costs $10,000, it's a no-brainer. That's why the insurance industry didn't squeak about this provision of the ACA. So please don't give me the "self-reliance" crap.

This was about a bunch of religious people trying to impose their superstitions on others.

Jesus H. Christ, are you fucking stupid or what?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

This was never an economic issue. The Insurance companies are THRILLED to pay for birth control, guy. Since birth control costs $300.00 and a live birth costs $10,000, it's a no-brainer. That's why the insurance industry didn't squeak about this provision of the ACA. So please don't give me the "self-reliance" crap.

This was about a bunch of religious people trying to impose their superstitions on others.

Jesus H. Christ, are you fucking stupid or what?

Yeah, we don't want any of that self-reliance crap. We need to become a country of people who abdicate all of their personal responsibilities to some third party bureaucracy to make all of our decisions for us. Why that's a recipe for success if I've ever heard one.

Jesus H. Chris, Forrest, are you really that fucking stupid or what??

 

[PredFan]

Liberals HATE it when conservatives use their tactics on them.