Zone1 Why are there so many Old Testament Christians?

[jwoodie]

The Old Testament is a statement of Mosaic Law, which bound Jews to a specific set of religious rules. It also contained prophesy about a messiah who would come to save the Jewish people. Jesus was that person, but the Jewish authorities rejected him. However, many other people accepted his teachings and created a reformed version of Judaism called Christianity.

 

[Woodznutz]

The Old Testament is a statement of Mosaic Law, which bound Jews to a specific set of religious rules. It also contained prophesy about a messiah who would come to save the Jewish people. Jesus was that person, but the Jewish authorities rejected him. However, many other people accepted his teachings and created a reformed version of Judaism called Christianity.

Jesus came to save everyone, Israel first, everyone else later. The Jews rejected him. He then went to the other descendants of Israel where he built his church.

 

[Votto]

Jesus came to save everyone, Israel first, everyone else later. The Jews rejected him. He then went to the other descendants of Israel where he built his church.

And then Karl Marx came to save us all from Jesus, at least according to the Left loons.

 

[Meriweather]

As a fallen away Catholic who has spent some time studying the Bible, I am curious as to why so many Christians embrace the Old Testament even as they seem to reject the teachings about love and equality found in the New Testament.

God in our midst.

 

[ding]

As a fallen away Catholic who has spent some time studying the Bible, I am curious as to why so many Christians embrace the Old Testament even as they seem to reject the teachings about love and equality found in the New Testament.

Lot's of people have a hard time reconciling the God of the OT with the God of the NT. Some have gone so far as saying there must be two Gods. The evil God of the material world (OT) and the good God of the spiritual world (NT). This seems unnecessarily complicated to me.

If you have spent some time studying the Bible then you must know that the Jews saw God as a God of righteousness, whose loving-kindness is from everlasting to everlasting and whose tender mercies are in all his works. That God is involved in their lives and guides them. How does this not match the NT?

 

[ding]

How can one claiming to be a follower of Christ, a Christian, support and follow the hatred, theft and murder advanced by the Old Testament, Torah and Talmud?

Because I don't believe the OT advances hatred, theft and murder. Don't confuse the historicity of the accounts with the embellishment of the accounts. If you believe the OT is advancing hatred, theft and murder then you are reading it wrong.

 

[SweetSue92]

As a fallen away Catholic who has spent some time studying the Bible, I am curious as to why so many Christians embrace the Old Testament even as they seem to reject the teachings about love and equality found in the New Testament.

Have you ever read the Bible, the entire Bible? The whole thing

 

[Votto]

Have you ever read the Bible, the entire Bible? The whole thing

I am pretty sure he only reads the passages with the words "Smite", "bowels", "touching", and "hell fire" in them.

And if he sneezes and you say God bless you, he makes you take it back.

 

[norwegen]

If the Israelites (of the northern kingdom) went extinct, who did Jesus preach to?

"I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." -J. Christ.

That would have been the Jews. They were of the house of Israel, and in the first century, the only ones left.

Although realistically, a few of Benjamin might still have been around in Judea. Like writers in any culture and era, Hebrew writers used hyperbole.

Jesus was not sent to the Gentiles or foreigners.

 

[Woodznutz]

And then Karl Marx came to save us all from Jesus, at least according to the Left loons.

Reminds me of a bumper sticker,

"Jesus, please protect me from your followers".

 

[Woodznutz]

That would have been the Jews. They were of the house of Israel, and in the first century, the only ones left.

Although realistically, a few of Benjamin might still have been around in Judea. Like writers in any culture and era, Hebrew writers used hyperbole.

Jesus was not sent to the Gentiles or foreigners.

The first century church was composed of Jews, Gentiles, and the remnants of the northern tribes still living in the region. However, the church was persecuted by Rome and never gained a stabile following. Constantine adopted nominal Christianity as the official Roman religion, however the true church went into hiding about that time and wouldn't emerge fully until the Reformation, among the descendants of the northern kingdom, the descendants of "the house of Israel". By that time Judaism had reemerged and was the religion of the Jews, not Christianity.

 

[jwoodie]

Reminds me of a bumper sticker,

"Jesus, please protect me from your followers".

From Fiddler on the Roof: "I know we are the chosen people. But next time, could you pick someone else?"

 

[norwegen]

The first century church was composed of Jews, Gentiles, and the remnants of the northern tribes still living in the region. However, the church was persecuted by Rome and never gained a stabile following. Constantine adopted nominal Christianity as the official Roman religion, however the true church went into hiding about that time and wouldn't emerge fully until the Reformation, among the descendants of the northern kingdom, the descendants of "the house of Israel". By that time Judaism had reemerged and was the religion of the Jews, not Christianity.

And the remnants of the northern tribes? Um, no. The Bible does not say that. It doesn't say Rome persecuted the first-century church, either.

What the Hebrews did write, however, was that none of the tribes was left but Judah, so Israel was no longer of the house of David (2 Kings 17:18-21).

Jeremiah said God divorced Israel. Have you even read the Bible? Israelites call out Israelites for their idolatry and wickedness. So God disowned them, the last being Judah.

It's not that difficult, and history bears this out.

 

[Woodznutz]

And the remnants of the northern tribes? Um, no. The Bible does not say that. It doesn't say Rome persecuted the first-century church, either.

What the Hebrews did write, however, was that none of the tribes was left but Judah, so Israel was no longer of the house of David (2 Kings 17:18-21).

Jeremiah said God divorced Israel. Have you even read the Bible? Israelites call out Israelites for their idolatry and wickedness. So God disowned them, the last being Judah.

It's not that difficult, and history bears this out.

James wrote his letter 300 years after the Assyrian captivity of the Northern kingdom, called the house of Israel.

James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. James 1:1.

Who was he writing to?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

As a fallen away Catholic who has spent some time studying the Bible, I am curious as to why so many Christians embrace the Old Testament even as they seem to reject the teachings about love and equality found in the New Testament.

"The Scriptures" Jesus and His disciples read contained NOTHING from the NT

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Every Christian I know, about 3 family members and twice that many lifelong friends fully and enthusiastically support the genocide by Israel

There is no genocide except the desires of the Arabs

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Jesus was not sent to the Gentiles or foreigners

No. He was sent t to the LOST TRIBES of the House of Israel. That was all BUT Judah (Jews)

 

[norwegen]

No. He was sent t to the LOST TRIBES of the House of Israel. That was all BUT Judah (Jews)

No he wasn't.

 

[irosie91]

As a fallen away Catholic who has spent some time studying the Bible, I am curious as to why so many Christians embrace the Old Testament even as they seem to reject the teachings about love and equality found in the New Testament.

check again as to from which parts you "fell away" and which parts STUCK

 

[PeterPilot]

There is no genocide except the desires of the Arabs

You're very well indoctrinated Carl. That is the purpose of organized religion.