Why Are Some of My Fellow Conservatives Being Irrational About COVID-19 Vaccination?

[PoliticalChic]

 

[Rigby5]

He downplayed the epidemic, he all but ignored prevention measures, any search for a cure. There is no cure for viruses, there are just protective measures.

The epidemic SHOULD have been "downplayed" by everyone.
It was not of significant lethality.
It is no more lethal than flu, ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
So why was covid a greater total?
Because when you deliberately "flatten the curve" you prevent the normal ending from herd immunity, and it will go on then FOREVER!

 

[Rigby5]

Not even close.

That “may” have accounted for several thousand deaths… maybe

But nothing approaching the hundreds of thousands we ended up with.

It was Trump

Trump may be greedy or an idiot, but he had absolutely nothing to do with covid.
He funded vaccines and did everything the CDC recommended.
The fault was with the CDC, not Trump.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Not even close.

That “may” have accounted for several thousand deaths… maybe

But nothing approaching the hundreds of thousands we ended up with.

It was Trump

Once again you parade that ignorance. Tell us, Dr. Fauci wanna-be, what should have been done different?

 

[Lesh]

Once again you parade that ignorance. Tell us, Dr. Fauci wanna-be, what should have been done different?

Taken the virus seriously.

Told people the truth

NOT push to open too soon...

NOT fought mask mandates

NOT promoted heard immunity

NOT politicize the doctors and the CDC

NOT told people to shine lights up their asses and take horse dewormer and fishtank cleaner

For starters

 

[PoliticalChic]

Taken the virus seriously.

Told people the truth

NOT push to open too soon...

NOT fought mask mandates

NOT promoted heard immunity

NOT politicize the doctors and the CDC

NOT told people to shine lights up their asses and take horse dewormer and fishtank cleaner

For starters

“Biden Adviser Gives Trump Credit for ‘Great Thing’ He Did for the American People…Biden’s COVID adviser Andy Slavitt gave credit to work done under the Trump administration to get vaccines rolled out.
“So you are grateful for the work that came prior to it?” Bill Hemmer asked.
“No question,” Slavitt responded.
“So you would tip your hat to Operation Warp Speed?” Hemmer continued.
“I would absolutely tip my hat,” the Biden adviser replied. “This is a scientific process that actually began more than a decade ago with scientists inside the NIH and inside BARDA creating this mRNA vaccine. I think the Trump Administration made sure that we got, in record time, vaccine up and out. That’s a great thing and it’s something that we should all be excited about.” WATCH: Biden Adviser Gives Trump Credit for 'Great Thing' He Did for the American People





“Gov. Cuomo Heaps Praise on Trump for Responsiveness and Decisiveness Amid Coronavirus Outbreak” Gov. Cuomo Heaps Praise on Trump for Responsiveness and Decisiveness Amid Coronavirus Outbreak



“California Gov. praises Trump's help on coronavirus crisis” California Gov. praises Trump's help on coronavirus crisis



“Some Democrats Praise Trump’s Leadership Amid Coronavirus

President Trump’s recent actions to stop the spread of coronavirus have won him praise from an unlikely source: Representative Ilhan Omar….Omar quoted fellow Squad member Representative Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.) as saying “unprecedented times require unprecedented leadership,” and then added that “we are seeing that in our country right now.”

And Dana Bash of CNN asserted the president’s new aggressive approach to the virus makes him the “kind of leader that people need.” Some Democrats Praise Trump’s Leadership Amid Coronavirus - The New American

 

[Stann]

Except we do NOT have public health care in the US, and the private health care is so corrupt, they control the CDC.
That is why the US got mRNA fakes while the ENTIRE REST of the WORLD, went with real vaccines, containing dead viruses instead.

There is a valid strategy with masks and social distancing, but that ONLY works if you are doing full quarantine, lock down, and contact tracing, like we did for Ebola.
That can end any epidemic ins less than 2 weeks, but is expensive and unnecessary for something like covid.
The lethality for covid is so tiny if you are under 40, that we should have encouraged herd immunity by accelerating the initial spike.

Public health is in the Constitution, otherwise we would not have a US department of health and safety. You are talking out of your ass.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Public health is in the Constitution, otherwise we would not have a US department of health and safety. You are talking out of your ass.

Please cite the text in the Constitution mentioning public health.

 

[Rigby5]

Taken the virus seriously.

Told people the truth

NOT push to open too soon...

NOT fought mask mandates

NOT promoted heard immunity

NOT politicize the doctors and the CDC

NOT told people to shine lights up their asses and take horse dewormer and fishtank cleaner

For starters

That is stupid because Trump took the virus not only seriously but accurately.
He did exactly what the CDC said.
And the truth is that over reacting with masks and social distancing killed the maximum number of people, by preventing herd immunity.
Trump never "pushed to open too soon" and said NOTHING about that.
Trump never "fought mask mandates".
Trump never "promoted herd immunity", although he should have, since that is the only reality.
Trump never "politicized the CDC" or else he would have fired Fauci for being incompetent, as he should have.
Trump never "told people to" do any of the stupid things you said.
He suggested that maybe the researchers would come up with something?
I dislike Trump, but that post is the biggest collection of lies I have ever heard.

 

[Rigby5]

Public health is in the Constitution, otherwise we would not have a US department of health and safety. You are talking out of your ass.

Wrong.
Public health is NOT on the constitution at all, anywhere.
The closest is in the preamble, and only refers to "the general welfare".
We should NOT have a US department of health and safety, without an amendment.
And then we should have government labs working on things like covid, instead of for profit crooks like Pfizer and Moderna, selling us placebos.

 

[Lesh]

That is stupid because Trump took the virus not only seriously but accurately.

He's on tape (ya stupid sck puppet) saying exactly the opposite of what he said in public

 

[Rigby5]

He's on tape (ya stupid sck puppet) saying exactly the opposite of what he said in public

According to you, but you don't happen to have that tape, do you?
From what I remember, Trump did all sorts of actions such as blocking travelers from Europe, that showed extreme reaction to covid.
The fact the courts reversed his travel bans, it not his fault.

 

[Lesh]

According to you, but you don't happen to have that tape, do you?
From what I remember, Trump did all sorts of actions such as blocking travelers from Europe, that showed extreme reaction to covid.
The fact the courts reversed his travel bans, it not his fault.

Ya know what he didn't do sock puppet?

Stop travel from Europe. Ya know what he didn't do?

Quarentine ANYONE coming back.

 

[Rigby5]

Ya know what he didn't do sock puppet?

Stop travel from Europe. Ya know what he didn't do?

Quarentine ANYONE coming back.

Wrong.
This is an article very unfriendly to Trump, but it still does admit Trump did to the travel restriction recommended by the CDC.

The Facts on Trump's Travel Restrictions - FactCheck.org

President Donald Trump has made a number of misleading statements about his decision on Jan. 31 to impose travel restrictions related to the novel coronavirus epidemic.

www.factcheck.org

 

[Oldestyle]

Not even close.

That “may” have accounted for several thousand deaths… maybe

But nothing approaching the hundreds of thousands we ended up with.

It was Trump

Then why have more people died under Joe Biden than died under Donald Trump? Your talking point doesn't stand up to even a cursory examination, Lesh! Trump gave us the vaccines in record time. Trump gave us so many ventilators we were giving them away to other nations. What has Biden done? Besides promise things he didn't deliver on?

 

[Oldestyle]

He downplayed the epidemic, he all but ignored prevention measures, any search for a cure. There is no cure for viruses, there are just protective measures.

So did Nancy Pelosi, Bill De Blasio and even Anthony Fauci early on, Stann! Show me someone that had it right about Covid from the start! The fact of the matter is that Trump did his job as President during the epidemic. He fast tracked vaccine research and development. He used the power of the Federal Government to get ventilators built and field hospitals delivered to cities like New York that said they needed them!
Joe Biden STARTED with vaccines...ventilators...mask mandates in place and he STILL lost more people than Trump did! I'm sorry but how do you manage to do THAT?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Please cite the text in the Constitution mentioning public health.

Please direct him to the eighteen enumerated powers are explicitly stated in Article I, Section 8.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Ya know what he didn't do sock puppet?

Stop travel from Europe. Ya know what he didn't do?

Quarentine ANYONE coming back.

The actual truth of the matter is that when Trump talked about limiting travel from the originating point of the virus early on, you mindless Stalinist sheeple were calling him a racist for it.

You stupid sociopathic fucks support oppressive shutdowns because your own lives are not ruined by them. Who cares about other people's lives, eh?

 

[Lesh]

Then why have more people died under Joe Biden than died under Donald Trump? Your talking point doesn't stand up to even a cursory examination, Lesh! Trump gave us the vaccines in record time. Trump gave us so many ventilators we were giving them away to other nations. What has Biden done? Besides promise things he didn't deliver on?

Why have more people died?
A. A longer time period

B. Refusal of people like you to vaccinate

C. Delta

D. Omicron

 

[eagle1462010]

Why have more people died?
A. A longer time period

B. Refusal of people like you to vaccinate

C. Delta

D. Omicron

Funny. Refusal to vax. There was NO Vax for a long period of Trump. Lmao