Why Are So Many Democratic Politicians So Far Out of Touch? - New York Times

[Independent thinker]

You probably have never watched Fox in your life.
I've watched all the cable news networks and still do and it's by far the most "fair and balanced", to use their phrase. Not even close.

I don't watch much coverage from the far right or the far left but I will say that every time I have watched Fox News, they almost always have equal representation on both sides and, in fact, pay several contributors from the other side to present the opposing views. You almost never get that with the MSM or the lefty media. Their coverages are all one sided, such as ABC's The View (just for one example) where they have three from the left and one anti-Trumper from the right. Like I said, that's just one example.

 

[Independent thinker]

Aren't you one of the idiot liars who kept telling us that Joe Biden was competent and sharper than ever?

To be fair, to Stann, Biden was competent and sharper than ever.

 

[Independent thinker]

sorry, what's that have to do with my post?

That's the best he had. You talk about oranges, he talks about zippers.

 

[Independent thinker]

while those same people went to restaurants and vacation destinies. This is why they need to cheat

Restaurants during Covid are one of my favorite things to talk about. It was so hilarious that you had to be wearing your mask while entering a restaurant because "my mask protects you and your mask protects me" but when you're sitting down at a table you can't possibly catch Covid or spread it so you don't have to have your mask on. But, when it's time to leave then it's back to, "my mask protects you and your mask protects me". Those entrances and exits from restaurants were killers but the dining rooms were perfectly safe!

 

[schmidlap]

The irrefutable evidence of attempting to pervert democracy are a loser's goons attacking Congress in a failed attempt to prevent the will of the people being certified, fake elector schemes, pressuring public servants to "find" necessary votes, and chronic irrational denial despite having no evidence to support that denial, and no one to accuse of stealing an imaginary "landslide!"

 

[Independent thinker]

I doubt you can convince them by showing them what's in the NYT anymore than by showing what's reported on Fox News. You could quote Barak Obama saying something sensible or reasonably right of center and they won't be convinced.

I do rather enjoy watching them squirm when you post links from their very own trusted media and then they claim it is fake news. Comedy gold.

 

[schmidlap]

Restaurants during Covid are one of my favorite things to talk about. It was so hilarious that you had to be wearing your mask while entering a restaurant because "my mask protects you and your mask protects me" but when you're sitting down at a table you can't possibly catch Covid or spread it so you don't have to have your mask on. But, when it's time to leave then it's back to, "my mask protects you and your mask protects me". Those entrances and exits from restaurants were killers but the dining rooms were perfectly safe!

Being seated at a table with folks one has been exposed to anyway apparently differs from circulating among strangers.

 

[Independent thinker]

Half of the Democrat Party would bolt if there was a robust Libertarian Party.

But there is NOT a robust Libertarian party. They have been going backwards for years. Several elections ago there was talk that they could possibly hit 10% of the vote (Ross Perot got around 20% and zero electoral votes). This last election what's his/(her) name, their usual candidate, proudly proclaimed that he was hoping to get 2% of the vote and wound up getting 1%. They are and always have been, a losing party, as all third parties are. Personally, I wish that wasn't the truth but you have to accept reality.

Libertarians only goal in life is they think they are planting seeds which will grow in the future after they die, but, the reality is that many of those people have died and don't even know that their seeds never grew.

 

[Independent thinker]

The irrefutable evidence of attempting to pervert democracy are a loser's goons attacking Congress in a failed attempt to prevent the will of the people being certified, fake elector schemes, pressuring public servants to "find" necessary votes, and chronic irrational denial despite having no evidence to support that denial, and no one to accuse of stealing an imaginary "landslide!"

Which is why voters voted in Trump, kept the House, and regained the Senate in 2024. Americans showed the goons the door.

 

[Independent thinker]

Being seated at a table with folks one has been exposed to anyway apparently differs from circulating among strangers.

So, then why did the left outlaw large groups of people at your own home and encourage friends, relatives, and neighbors to report large gatherings at your home to the police? And, the HVAC systems in restaurants spread germs throughout the whole dining room so you really weren't safe in the dining room as even a table clear across the room could have their Covid germs spread throughout the entire restaurant, let alone a table closer to you.

 

[Stann]

But, again, you said it appears that Trump has done some good things. I was just asking you which things you were talking about.

Already gave one example of that. Reducing government spending. He screwed that up royally in.the process however. Like most things he does.

 

[schmidlap]

So, then why did the left outlaw large groups of people at your own home and encourage friends, relatives, and neighbors to report large gatherings at your home to the police? And, the HVAC systems in restaurants spread germs throughout the whole dining room so you really weren't safe in the dining room as even a table clear across the room could have their Covid germs spread throughout the entire restaurant, let alone a table closer to you.

Your "left" appears to be anyone who respected the qualified epidemiologists and public health experts .

In any event, the relevance escapes me.

 

[Stann]

To be fair, to Stann, Biden was competent and sharper than ever.

I am a nurse , I knew there was a problem starting when his depth perception started failing , like trump is starting to do now.

 

[IM2]

I don't watch much coverage from the far right or the far left but I will say that every time I have watched Fox News, they almost always have equal representation on both sides and, in fact, pay several contributors from the other side to present the opposing views. You almost never get that with the MSM or the lefty media. Their coverages are all one sided, such as ABC's The View (just for one example) where they have three from the left and one anti-Trumper from the right. Like I said, that's just one example.

BS.

 

[IM2]

I am a nurse , I knew there was a problem starting when his depth perception started failing , like trump is starting to do now.

Biden was in far better shape at 79 than Trump is. These guys make excuses for Trump and defend his every mental slip.

 

[Stann]

Biden was in far better shape at 79 than Trump is. These guys make excuses for Trump and defend his every mental slip.

Plus Biden listened to his advisers. trump is belligerent and getting toxic with his dementia. Only listens to the voices in his head.

 

[EMH]

But there is NOT a robust Libertarian party

Not yet, because we trusted Donald J Trump not to start another "forever war" solely to serve Israel.

The current post 1998 GOP is obsessed with and addicted to selling out our troops to serve Israel. The GOP base is fracturing on that issue.

 

[EMH]

Libertarians only goal in life

You do not speak for us, Traitor.

 

[IM2]

Plus Bien listened to his advisers. trump is belligerent and getting toxic with his dementia. Only listens to the voices in his head.

True. A good leader surrounds himself with those who are more talented than him. But Trump is a insecure 79 yea old child who feel threatened by anyone who he thinks is smarter than him.

 

[Stann]

True. A good leader surrounds himself with those who are more talented than him. But Trump is a insecure 79 yea old child who feel threatened by anyone who he thinks is smarter than him.

I wonder how his followers don't realize how stupid trump is. A smart person would never threaten to sue his schools if they released his grades. That's a dead giveaway.