Why Are So Many Democratic Politicians So Far Out of Touch? - New York Times

[Independent thinker]

I was responding to the poster not about trump. He has made everything worse for everyone in America.

But, again, you said it appears that Trump has done some good things. I was just asking you which things you were talking about.

 

[Independent thinker]

Not when you totally support trump no matter how bad he gets.

I don't totally support Trump.

 

[Independent thinker]

I also said he's fine more harm than good negating any good he accomplished. The way one does things matters. Even the good things were done in the worst possible manner. For example reducing the size of the federal government. He could have simply told every department ( no exceptions ) that they needed to maintain services but reduce costs by 10% and let them decide how to do it. But he targeted agencies unjustly with bigotry and even gave other agencies more money. And you watch the cost is not going to be less in the end but more. And there will be less accountability for those funds than ever. Cronyism and nepotism have never been worse and more blatant than with this administration

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I repeatedly ask you which good you are talking about and you deflect. Were you lying?

 

[Independent thinker]

Despite recent losses in Democratic voters they still outnumber Republican voters and more Independents support Democrats than they do republicans. So unless trump has rigged the election system in his favor it should be a very good time for a strong comeback from.Democrats. Although I live in Nebraska and it's not very likely she'll win there's a really good campaign by a Democrat and I hope she gets to represent the 2nd. District. That would s me the right message to republicans in this state. They're destroying it.

Looks like you are laying the ground work for claiming the election was fraudulent. I thought you weren't allowed to do that. Wouldn't that result in investigations and charges against you? Sounds to me like you are an insurrectionist.

 

[BS Filter]

Journalism and civilization go.handin.hand. If you really believe that it makes the be another reason you're so uncivilized.

Aren't you one of the idiot liars who kept telling us that Joe Biden was competent and sharper than ever?

 

[Independent thinker]

I can only conclude that you have no concept of what fascism is. No doubt trump is thrilled about that. He loves manipulating fools.

Says the party who took professional licenses away from people during Covid because they had a different opinion, fired people from their jobs for not getting the jab, wouldn't allow people out in public without their vaccine papers, arrested peaceful protesters on Jan 6th, shot an unarmed woman for protesting the election, encouraged friends and neighbors and relatives to call the gestapo if they formed in groups during Covid, rounded up anyone questioning the election results and charging them with crimes and wanting to keep them off ballots, and refused to let people go to church during Covid.

 

[jc456]

If you have credible data that contradicts the results of the last 30 special elections, 2026 generic ballot preference surveys, and the increasing disapproval of Trump by Independents, please share it.

sorry, what's that have to do with my post?

 

[Independent thinker]

Yes there are a lot of stupid Americans ; too many of them voted last election and that's why we're.in the mess we're in now.

And you don't think that those "stupid Americans" are going to vote this time around? Do you have any evidence to support that?

 

[Independent thinker]

People used to read newspapers to get their news. Journalism is dead.

Journalism? What's that?

 

[jc456]

Says the party who took professional licenses away from people during Covid because they had a different opinion, fired people from their jobs for not getting the jab, wouldn't allow people out in public without their vaccine papers, arrested peaceful protesters on Jan 6th, shot an unarmed woman for protesting the election, encouraged friends and neighbors and relatives to call the gestapo if they formed in groups during Covid, rounded up anyone questioning the election results and charging them with crimes and wanting to keep them off ballots, and refused to let people go to church during Covid.

while those same people went to restaurants and vacation destinies. This is why they need to cheat

 

[jc456]

Yes there are a lot of stupid Americans ; too many of them voted last election and that's why we're.in the mess we're in now.

again, evidence that people are only supposed to vote like democrats.

 

[Independent thinker]

One of the reasons why the Dems are generally quiet about transgender athletes is this:

AI Overview

Approximately 1%–2% of the U.S. population identifies as transgender, but transgender women competing in women's sports represent a statistically tiny fraction, estimated at less than 0.002% of NCAA athletes and roughly 0.001% of recent Olympians. Data indicates transgender athletes are highly underrepresented in sports compared to their population size.

The problem that exists with this topic, is the following:

AI Overview

A large majority of Republicans, approximately 88% to 90%, oppose transgender women and girls competing in women’s sports, making it a highly significant issue for the party. About 60% of Republicans strongly oppose such participation, aligning with broad party efforts to pass restrictions.

The reality is that transgender sports is a miniscule problem, but the Republicans have made it a major Issue!!!!

Well, they are mostly quiet because they don't want to be excommunicated from the party. I read that out of the 19 people expected to run for the democrat nominee for president in 2028, only one, Rhaem Emannuel, has the guts to come out against that part of the party line.

 

[Independent thinker]

There are tons of polls out there that prove whatever point you want to make. I long ago learned to laugh at polls.
The only ones that count are in November.
We'll see what happens.

Not only that but biased pollsters purposely do polling where the questions are formed in a way to get the results they want and then the biased media picks up on that poll and reports it as fact.

 

[DStar777]

You're not going to convince them by posting links from Fox News or The Gateway Pundit.

I doubt you can convince them by showing them what's in the NYT anymore than by showing what's reported on Fox News. You could quote Barak Obama saying something sensible or reasonably right of center and they won't be convinced.

 

[Independent thinker]

Says the guy displaying more propaganda to support your claim. Laughable.

The OP is about the NYT. You guys always claim they report the truth and Fox News doesn't. This is why whenver I present facts, I present them from the very media you claim you trust and is not fake news. Then, when you don't want to listen to the truth, you claim it isn't the truth, despite it being from the very media you claim reports only the truth.

 

[BS Filter]

California had to cancel the debate for governor because all of the candidates are white and the top two in the polls are both republicans.

 

[Independent thinker]

That would more properly fit the right. When was the last time FOX reported good news about any one on the left. That's propaganda at it's worse completely ignoring any value in the opposing team.

Well, you said in one of your posts that Trump has done things which appear to be good and yet when I have asked you several times which good things those are with Trump, you keep on deflecting and refuse to answer. Pot calling kettle.

 

[task0778]

From the OP:

... the cost of adopting more extreme and intensely partisan stands drops close to zero, with a payoff in added voters in ideologically driven primaries.

What this comes down to is that in the calculations of incumbents in safe districts, adopting the hard-nosed position leaves no ideological space for challengers in the primaries.

In fact, among polarized primary electorates in these districts, the successful nominee is very likely to be naturally comfortable positioning himself or herself at the further end of the political spectrum, deeply hostile to the opposition party, opposed in principle to compromise.


One of the easier ways to get rich is to run for Congress as a democrat. Probably true for some republicans too, but it sure seems like this is the reality for somebody to get wealthier, maybe a lot wealthier. Insider trading, etc. You sell your vote and your soul to the highest bidder, and voila!

Which is not to say that all dem politicians are not ardent liberal progressives, at least some of them are. Probably. But politics is a racket these days, with big money to be made on either side and screw the public.

 

[jc456]

Not only that but biased pollsters purposely do polling where the questions are formed in a way to get the results they want and then the biased media picks up on that poll and reports it as fact.

and why a poll is a useless device.

 

[EMH]

Half of the Democrat Party would bolt if there was a robust Libertarian Party.