Why Are Conservatives Such Cowards When It Comes To Social Security & Medicare?

[BS Filter]

Biden tangles with Republicans on Social Security and Medicare to heckles of 'liar'

President Biden stood in front of Congress to deliver his second State of the Union address on Tuesday night -- a speech that saw him plead for bipartisan cooperation.

abcnews.go.com

"Some Republicans -- some Republicans want Medicare and Social Security to sunset,” Biden said as he pledged to prevent Republicans from cutting Social Security and Medicare. “I'm not saying it's the majority. If Congress doesn't keep the programs where they are they go well, the Republicans say I'm not saying there's a majority of you. I don't even think it's even significant.” Although Biden noted that he wasn’t saying the “majority” of Republicans wanted to do so, he was immediately showered with boos from the other side of the aisle. Biden also pointed out that, during the previous administration, Congress raised the debt ceiling three times “without preconditions or crisis".

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has publicly said that potential cuts to Medicare and Social Security are "off the table" but that didn’t stop the boos getting louder -- “So folks, as we all apparently agree, Social Security and Medicare off the books now, right?” Biden asked amid the tense exchange. “All right. We got unanimity.” Biden earned a standing ovation from both sides of the aisle following the comment."


I am not going to rehash the speech; instead I just want to ask right wingers, why do they continuously back away or lie about their positions when a light is shined on them? Why do Republicans continue to try to gaslight the rest of us by claiming they never wanted to cut Medicare and Social Security?? They did the same thing when they claimed they didn't want to repeal Roe v Wade, even tho that is all they have campaigned on for the last 40 years....After the SC repealed it, these same right-wingers lied and said that they only wanted to leave it to the states....then immediately started drafting legislation to propose federal bans on abortions....

Now they are lying once again about cutting Social Security and Medicare....they lie about it because they know those are 2 of the most popular programs in US history...but since it isn't a policy conservatives came up with, they have been opposed to it since its creation...So since their policies suck, they have to lie about it while working behind the scenes to gut it or "sunset" it....Here is Mike Lee to summarize my point...

Do you know what a "strawman" is?

 

[g5000]

The simple fact is we need to raise the retirement age to 70, and index it to 9 percent of the population going forward.

I am so sick of all the reindeer games our politicians play with Social Security and Medicare instead of doing what needs to be done.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Stupid or evil? Which is it?

Is that a trick question. "Or" being the operative word. Why can't it be "And"?

[j/k It's logic humor.]

WW

 

[struth]

I think you might underestimate the number of people that are actually disabled in this country.

We are extremely unhealthy.

nah you are just a lazy, weak bum

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Biden tangles with Republicans on Social Security and Medicare to heckles of 'liar'

President Biden stood in front of Congress to deliver his second State of the Union address on Tuesday night -- a speech that saw him plead for bipartisan cooperation.

abcnews.go.com

"Some Republicans -- some Republicans want Medicare and Social Security to sunset,” Biden said as he pledged to prevent Republicans from cutting Social Security and Medicare. “I'm not saying it's the majority. If Congress doesn't keep the programs where they are they go well, the Republicans say I'm not saying there's a majority of you. I don't even think it's even significant.” Although Biden noted that he wasn’t saying the “majority” of Republicans wanted to do so, he was immediately showered with boos from the other side of the aisle. Biden also pointed out that, during the previous administration, Congress raised the debt ceiling three times “without preconditions or crisis".

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has publicly said that potential cuts to Medicare and Social Security are "off the table" but that didn’t stop the boos getting louder -- “So folks, as we all apparently agree, Social Security and Medicare off the books now, right?” Biden asked amid the tense exchange. “All right. We got unanimity.” Biden earned a standing ovation from both sides of the aisle following the comment."


I am not going to rehash the speech; instead I just want to ask right wingers, why do they continuously back away or lie about their positions when a light is shined on them? Why do Republicans continue to try to gaslight the rest of us by claiming they never wanted to cut Medicare and Social Security?? They did the same thing when they claimed they didn't want to repeal Roe v Wade, even tho that is all they have campaigned on for the last 40 years....After the SC repealed it, these same right-wingers lied and said that they only wanted to leave it to the states....then immediately started drafting legislation to propose federal bans on abortions....

Now they are lying once again about cutting Social Security and Medicare....they lie about it because they know those are 2 of the most popular programs in US history...but since it isn't a policy conservatives came up with, they have been opposed to it since its creation...So since their policies suck, they have to lie about it while working behind the scenes to gut it or "sunset" it....Here is Mike Lee to summarize my point...

You realize Biden has said numerous times to actually stop SS and Medicare completely to balance the budget.
So, question is, why are liberals such cowards?

 

[WorldWatcher]

simple fact is we need to raise the retirement age to 70, and index it to 9 percent of the population going forward.

I am so sick of all the reindeer games our politicians play with Social Security and Medicare instead of doing what needs to be done.

And watch disability claims, that aren't age dependent, skyrocket.

If games are to be ended, leave current retirement age as it is and:

• Immediately double the wage cap from $160K (in 2023) to $320K.
• Tax other forms of income (interest, dividends, stock options, etc. - i.e. passive income) which are currently not taxed. (The portion of those incomes now falling under SS, would of course be added to the earning history used to calculate future benefits.)

WW

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

You realize Biden has said numerous times to actually stop SS and Medicare completely to balance the budget.
So, question is, why are liberals such cowards?

Only time right-wingers care about the budget is when they are trying to stop Democrats from funding programs that benefit everyone who is not wealthy...


Republicans love exploding the budget to pay for corporate subsidies, tax breaks, and tax cuts for billionaires...because they know dic suckers like you will bend over backwards to defend it

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Why Are Conservatives Such Cowards When It Comes To Social Security & Medicare?​

Unfortunately, it's not just Social Security and Medicare.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Only time right-wingers care about the budget is when they are trying to stop Democrats from funding programs that benefit everyone who is not wealthy...


Republicans love exploding the budget to pay for corporate subsidies, tax breaks, and tax cuts for billionaires...because they know dic suckers like you will bend over backwards to defend it

Simply false. Only indoctrinated hyper partisans would make such a statement.
It's BOTH main stream parties. Both are controlled by the deepest pockets.

 

[Blues Man]

A small percentage of overall claims.

You make the process more cumbersome, you’ll exclude the small percentage of fraud but you’ll also torture the vast majority with actual disabilities by making them jump through hoops.

The number of claims isn't the issue the issue is the requirements for getting SSDI are far too lax

 

[Superbadbrutha]

The simple fact is we need to raise the retirement age to 70, and index it to 9 percent of the population going forward.

I am so sick of all the reindeer games our politicians play with Social Security and Medicare instead of doing what needs to be done.

Just raise it to 80yrs old, that way only a handful of folks will ever receive SS and Medicare.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

nah you are just a lazy, weak bum

Are you saying the disabled are lazy and weak bums?

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Are you saying the disabled are lazy and weak bums?

Didn't know you were disabled.
Have you ever mentioned it here before?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Didn't know you were disabled.
Have you ever mentioned it here before?

I am a disabled vet (I have mentioned before) that works everyday, so are you saying that disabled folks are lazy bums.

 

[Anathema]

Your mistake is conflating Republicans with Conservatives. They’re not the same thing and while many Conservatives may vote Republican, the vast majority of Republicans are NOT Conservatives.

Conservatives want SS and Medicare, SNAP, Welfare and the entire rest of the Social Welfare Network done away with tomorrow. That’s because we’re Ideologues, whereas Republicans are merely politicians.

 

[struth]

Are you saying the disabled are lazy and weak bums?

nope, just saying the folks that day “we” are lazy and weak bums.

i do think your plantation bosses on the dnc plantation make yoj feel that way

 

[Superbadbrutha]

nope, just saying the folks that day “we” are lazy and weak bums.

i do think your plantation bosses on the dnc plantation make yoj feel that way

How does Massa Trump make you feel?

 

[Flash]

Biden tangles with Republicans on Social Security and Medicare to heckles of 'liar'

President Biden stood in front of Congress to deliver his second State of the Union address on Tuesday night -- a speech that saw him plead for bipartisan cooperation.

abcnews.go.com

"Some Republicans -- some Republicans want Medicare and Social Security to sunset,” Biden said as he pledged to prevent Republicans from cutting Social Security and Medicare. “I'm not saying it's the majority. If Congress doesn't keep the programs where they are they go well, the Republicans say I'm not saying there's a majority of you. I don't even think it's even significant.” Although Biden noted that he wasn’t saying the “majority” of Republicans wanted to do so, he was immediately showered with boos from the other side of the aisle. Biden also pointed out that, during the previous administration, Congress raised the debt ceiling three times “without preconditions or crisis".

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has publicly said that potential cuts to Medicare and Social Security are "off the table" but that didn’t stop the boos getting louder -- “So folks, as we all apparently agree, Social Security and Medicare off the books now, right?” Biden asked amid the tense exchange. “All right. We got unanimity.” Biden earned a standing ovation from both sides of the aisle following the comment."


I am not going to rehash the speech; instead I just want to ask right wingers, why do they continuously back away or lie about their positions when a light is shined on them? Why do Republicans continue to try to gaslight the rest of us by claiming they never wanted to cut Medicare and Social Security?? They did the same thing when they claimed they didn't want to repeal Roe v Wade, even tho that is all they have campaigned on for the last 40 years....After the SC repealed it, these same right-wingers lied and said that they only wanted to leave it to the states....then immediately started drafting legislation to propose federal bans on abortions....

Now they are lying once again about cutting Social Security and Medicare....they lie about it because they know those are 2 of the most popular programs in US history...but since it isn't a policy conservatives came up with, they have been opposed to it since its creation...So since their policies suck, they have to lie about it while working behind the scenes to gut it or "sunset" it....Here is Mike Lee to summarize my point...

Why are Libtards such incompetent worthless assholes that they need the fucking government to provide for their retirement and health care?

 

[struth]

How does Massa Trump make you feel?

not much. but unsurprised by you bringing him up….

 

[tahuyaman]

Sorry...the GOP just promised that they won't touch SS and Medicare. Of course we all believe them.

Those programs will cease to exist if they are left untouched.