Who's more conservative: Newt or Mitt?

[Mr. Shaman]

If a true conservative show their face in an election cycle, he/she is lambasted by the media till everyone questions their conservatism, and then they are promptly dismissed

Too bad the truly mad left isn't also dismissed

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[Polk]

Never underestimate Mormons.

I won't underestimate Mormons but 'true-American' conservatives will when they reject Romney by staying home come November election day.

Not enough to prevent a landslide against Obama.

A landslide? Really?

 

[Avatar4321]

I won't underestimate Mormons but 'true-American' conservatives will when they reject Romney by staying home come November election day.

Not enough to prevent a landslide against Obama.

A landslide? Really?

If he gets the nomination, easily.

 

[Seawytch]

Mitten is a social conservative (thinks abortion should be illegal, gay marriage should be illegal, etc.) and a fiscal conservative (thinks government should be trimmed until we bleed, corporations are people, etc).

So I'd say him.

I don't know what Newt is, maybe opportunistic fucktard lobbyist cheater describes him the best.

President Bill Clinton signed DOMA into law... President Obama and Vice President Biden both went on the record as "not supporting gay marriage" either, so I don't really see a difference in what Mitt has expressed in regards to any public policy decisions...

Really, you don't see a difference between Mitt saying he supports a Constitutional amendment to prohibit marriage equality and President Obama who wants to do away with DOMA and refuses to defend it? Really?

 

[Polk]

Not enough to prevent a landslide against Obama.

A landslide? Really?

If he gets the nomination, easily.

I still don't get how you guys have convinced yourself Mr. Wall Street is such a strong candidate, but even if he was, it's doubtful he'd win in a landslide unless something really deviating happens.

 

[amrchaos]

You might as well ask who is more conservative; Hillary or Obama..

...what a poll

I think Hillary is more conservative. She is tough on defense, believe in the Iraq and Afganistan wars, and believe we should take a stronger hand in dealing with Iran and North Korea.

Obama just wants to travel the globe and apologize for "American exceptionalism" and "American Prosperity".

 

[007]

I went with Gingrich on the poll because Romney is a moderate and a RINO, period, and he has several trophies for waffling.

I do believe I'm going with Gingrich for President also, because he seems to make blood shoot out of the liberals eye sockets... so then now they know how I feel about their boi king the kenyan.

I hope Gingrich is elected President, and I hope liberals move out of the country, preferably to one of the socialist/communist countries they so seem to admire.

 

[PixieStix]

You might as well ask who is more conservative; Hillary or Obama..

...what a poll

I think Hillary is more conservative. She is tough on defense, believe in the Iraq and Afganistan wars, and believe we should take a stronger hand in dealing with Iran and North Korea.

Obama just wants to travel the globe and apologize for "American exceptionalism" and "American Prosperity".

It pains me to say this, but a Hillary Presidency would have been better than the last 3 years of obamanomics and all the other anti freedom crap he tried to shove down our throats.

Your votes are precious people, please don't waste them this time

 

[WillowTree]

If a true conservative show their face in an election cycle, he/she is lambasted by the media till everyone questions their conservatism, and then they are promptly dismissed

Which is why I think Mitt is the more conservative. He's just smart enough not to say it too loud... I'd see him being more conservative as President than he was as Governor.

The issue that many conservatives have (along with many liberals) is that they forget what the whole 'liberty' thing means. You want liberty? You have to allow others to believe different to you.

translated to mean. he doesn't have the balls to articulate what he stands for. and you find this admirable why? exactly?

 

[Avatar4321]

If a true conservative show their face in an election cycle, he/she is lambasted by the media till everyone questions their conservatism, and then they are promptly dismissed

Which is why I think Mitt is the more conservative. He's just smart enough not to say it too loud... I'd see him being more conservative as President than he was as Governor.

The issue that many conservatives have (along with many liberals) is that they forget what the whole 'liberty' thing means. You want liberty? You have to allow others to believe different to you.

translated to mean. he doesn't have the balls to articulate what he stands for. and you find this admirable why? exactly?

What's better a person who is conservative not broadcasting it and getting into office, or a person who isnt conservative pretending to be getting into office?

 

[PixieStix]

If a true conservative show their face in an election cycle, he/she is lambasted by the media till everyone questions their conservatism, and then they are promptly dismissed

Which is why I think Mitt is the more conservative. He's just smart enough not to say it too loud... I'd see him being more conservative as President than he was as Governor.

The issue that many conservatives have (along with many liberals) is that they forget what the whole 'liberty' thing means. You want liberty? You have to allow others to believe different to you.

translated to mean. he doesn't have the balls to articulate what he stands for. and you find this admirable why? exactly?

The highlighted is why I like Newt, agree or disagree, you know what he thinks, and where he stands

 

[amrchaos]

Look, I am not a conservative.

But if you asked me who was the biggest conservative running I would say Rick Santorum. Too bad you do not have his name in the poll, because I would vote for him and declare Ron Paul a libertarian and don't count!

 

[007]

Look, I am not a conservative.

But if you asked me who was the biggest conservative running I would say Rick Santorum. Too bad you do not have his name in the poll, because I would vote for him and declare Ron Paul a libertarian and don't count!

My problem with Santorum is I think he's another war monger. Not exactly sure what Gingrich has up his sleeve as far as all these middle east entanglements, but Santorum emphatically stated he would BOMB Iran, and I'm just not sure that's what we need to do, whether they get a bomb or not. So Santorum lost me there. Paul, he's just to far off in the opposite direction. We need someone in between that will use their head, and I think that's Gingrich.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I went with Gingrich on the poll because.....

......ALL o' you STORMFRONT-boys support him????

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[Valerie]

Mitten is a social conservative (thinks abortion should be illegal, gay marriage should be illegal, etc.) and a fiscal conservative (thinks government should be trimmed until we bleed, corporations are people, etc).

So I'd say him.

I don't know what Newt is, maybe opportunistic fucktard lobbyist cheater describes him the best.

President Bill Clinton signed DOMA into law... President Obama and Vice President Biden both went on the record as "not supporting gay marriage" either, so I don't really see a difference in what Mitt has expressed in regards to any public policy decisions...

Really, you don't see a difference between Mitt saying he supports a Constitutional amendment to prohibit marriage equality and President Obama who wants to do away with DOMA and refuses to defend it? Really?

Yes, these issues are not really on his agenda as his true agenda is our economy.

I really don't see his presidency making one bit of difference in public policy...

“By adding a definitive victory in New Hampshire to his win in Iowa, Governor Mitt Romney has established himself as a candidate who can unite Republicans and a clear threat to Barack Obama in November,” said R. Clarke Cooper, Log Cabin Republicans Executive Director. “Governor Romney was consistently clear in the debates that he opposes discrimination based on sexual orientation. While he continues to support a constitutional amendment banning marriage equality – a position Log Cabin strongly opposes – he is also on record saying that such an amendment has been tried, rejected, and is unlikely to ever succeed. Romney has also taken a position that the repeal of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ has been settled, and he would not seek to reinstitute the ban on open service."

Log Cabin Republicans on Mitt Romney's New Hampshire Win

 

[amrchaos]

Look, I am not a conservative.

But if you asked me who was the biggest conservative running I would say Rick Santorum. Too bad you do not have his name in the poll, because I would vote for him and declare Ron Paul a libertarian and don't count!

My problem with Santorum is I think he's another war monger. Not exactly sure what Gingrich has up his sleeve as far as all these middle east entanglements, but Santorum emphatically stated he would BOMB Iran, and I'm just not sure that's what we need to do, whether they get a bomb or not. So Santorum lost me there. Paul, he's just to far off in the opposite direction. We need someone in between that will use their head, and I think that's Gingrich.

Considering the political atmosphere during Santorum's term, it is possible that he just went along with the rhetoric so that he would sound "tough on defense"

On the flipside, I do believe Ron Paul would defend this country if pushed to do so. Yet how he talks about Al qaeda, Hamas, Iran, Israel etc just makes me think he is a bit cuckoo.

 

[Valerie]

Newt Gingrich is Not a Conservative Recap
Newt Gingrich is a big government, anti-conservative guy on so many levels that it’s often hard to fully comprehend just how awful a Republican he is. Throughout the campaign I attempted to do this by offering a series of blogs demonstrating the countless ways in which Gingrich has consistently rejected the ideas and positions most conservatives have long recognized as being integral to their philosophy. Here’s a recap of “Newt Gingrich is Not a Conservative” parts 1 through 14. The length of this post gives you an idea of why I originally made separate posts. Tackling Gingrich’s rampant liberalism is a lot of work. There’s just so much material.

Newt Gingrich is Not a Conservative Recap (Parts 1-14) | Ron Paul 2012 Presidential Campaign Committee

 

[Avatar4321]

Which is why I think Mitt is the more conservative. He's just smart enough not to say it too loud... I'd see him being more conservative as President than he was as Governor.

The issue that many conservatives have (along with many liberals) is that they forget what the whole 'liberty' thing means. You want liberty? You have to allow others to believe different to you.

translated to mean. he doesn't have the balls to articulate what he stands for. and you find this admirable why? exactly?

The highlighted is why I like Newt, agree or disagree, you know what he thinks, and where he stands

No. you know what he wants you to think he thinks.

 

[007]

translated to mean. he doesn't have the balls to articulate what he stands for. and you find this admirable why? exactly?

The highlighted is why I like Newt, agree or disagree, you know what he thinks, and where he stands

No. you know what he wants you to think he thinks.

And that's what you want us to think he thinks.

Opinions aren't facts or truth. On top of that, find a politician that's squeaky clean, never done anything wrong, never told a lie, never took money, is pure as the driven snow, etc., etc., etc., and I'll pass out in shock. THERE ISN'T ONE! We have to pick from what it is we have to pick from, and 99.9% of the time it's a bunch of slick sons a bitches that are out for the money and power, and they'll tell you what ever it is they think will get them elected... and that's ALL OF THEM.

You know that avatar. Hell everybody here knows it.

Pick one and vote, because that's all there is to it.

 

[Avatar4321]

Look, I am not a conservative.

But if you asked me who was the biggest conservative running I would say Rick Santorum. Too bad you do not have his name in the poll, because I would vote for him and declare Ron Paul a libertarian and don't count!

My problem with Santorum is I think he's another war monger. Not exactly sure what Gingrich has up his sleeve as far as all these middle east entanglements, but Santorum emphatically stated he would BOMB Iran, and I'm just not sure that's what we need to do, whether they get a bomb or not. So Santorum lost me there. Paul, he's just to far off in the opposite direction. We need someone in between that will use their head, and I think that's Gingrich.

He's stated in the past that He's a Realpolitician Wilsonian when it comes to foreign policy. Look at Woodrow Wilson's foreign policy and youll have an idea what Newt's is.