Who would you like to see be the Republican Nominee for President in 2024?

Who would you like to see be the Republican Nominee for President in 2024?

  • John Kasich

  • Donald Trump


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Who would you like to see be the Republican Nominee for President in 2024?

A. John Kasich

B. Donald Trump
Neither. Fuck them both.

Who else you got? Jeb Fucking Bush?

God, we need to secede from this shit union.

Hold your horses!

You were all hot and wet over Trump a few weeks back and even called for the beheading of those that voted for Biden over Trump, so what has changed now?

You realized now you were being conned by a Charlatan?

Anyhoo, Texas is staying in the Union just like California, so let live in reality and the choice in 2024 is most likely Pence...
 
This thread is depressing and makes me ill. LOL

Its hypothetical base on Trump still being legally able to run in 2024. It appears he has retained much of his base of support, which would prevent any like minded individuals from running if Trump decides to run. The only question is could a never Trumper challenge him for the nomination, and right now Kasich, the most likely never Trumper to challenge Trump in 2024 is losing by a landslide.

Did you miss the fact that he addressed the Democrat National Convention? He is a Democrat!

So what?

Because he addressed the Democrat National Convention make him as much of a Democrat as Trump is a Republican!

Individuals like you can not accept the reality Romney, Kasich and other Republicans hate Trump and his base because you guys are lunatics!
 
I love me Pences demeanor. Calm cool stoic not a loudmouth nor name caller. Nikki Haley too. It's time for a female president. She is level headed.
 
Its funny watching democrats pick a GOP candidate for president.
My list is much different. Trump is over, in 4-years he will be way over.
That said, if its Trump or Kamala, I'd proudly vote for Trump.

My primary preferences to take Kamala on are:
Mike Pence
Mike Pompeo
Ted Cruz
Nikki Haley
My wish list candidate is Elon Musk.

On my RINO never list is Kasich, Romney, Ryan, and every never-Trumper

Kamala won't be running for President until 2028. Joe Biden will be the Democratic nominee for 2024. For Kamala to be running in 2024, she would have to announce her campaign just two years from now in January 2023. Highly unlikely.

I could never support the Republicans you list because of their support for Trump:

Mike Pence
Mike Pompeo
Ted Cruz
Nikki Haley
My wish list candidate is Elon Musk.

I also think the only way Trump is done is if the Senate is able to convict him and then disqualify him from holding public office again. Otherwise, Trump will run again, because the support base is simply too large for him to not run. The only one that could challenge him for the nomination would be a Never Trumper like Kasich, and right now with this poll, Kasich is getting crushed.
1. We disagree about Joe Biden. IMHO its 50/50 he makes it to 2024 without getting the 25th boot from Nancy. He is barely coherent now and he's on the job a week.

2. If Joe is too old in 2024 Kamala would be up next for the dems. You can say run Joe again, but I can't picture Joe in 4-years being functional.

3. Democrats with TDS can make up all kinds of Trump related excuses, but we all know democrats vote for democrats unless there is a good reason to vote for a Republican, like in 2016 a lot of union workers liked Trump over Hillary. How many of the laid off Keystone pipeline workers will vote democrat in 2022 and 2024? None.

4. Trump could try to run in 2024, but IMHO he won't get the nomination. If he would win the nomination I'd vote for him over Kamala (or Joe).

5. You are very wrong about a Never-Trumper ever getting nominated again, they are all done, as your poll shows. I didn't even vote in that poll. Establishment Republicans are "conservative globalists" and we want "America First Populists". IMHO by 2024 the voters will have had more than enough of the democrat's policies.

1. Joe Biden has done more work as President-Elect for the past two months as well as speaking to the American People, than Donald Trump did for four years as President. Joe Biden is just fine and Nancy Pelosi who is 3 years older than Joe Biden is going to do everything she can to support Joe Biden.

2. Senator Diane Feinstein turns 88 this summer as does Representative Don Young. Both are ten years older than Biden. There are 7 serving U.S. Senators and 17 serving U.S. Representatives older than Biden, so this idea that he is too old is just ageism.

3. Keystone Pipeline workers won't be the deciding factor in the elections of 2022 or 2024.

4. The only one that could take away the nomination from Trump is a never Trumper and it does not appear the party has switched away from Trump to that degree. No one on the pro Trump side of the party is going to run against Trump if he runs in 2024. None of them have Trump's base of support which is much larger than it was in 2016.

5. The Democrats will prove more united in 2024 than the Republicans will be.
1. Joe Xiden is losing it, he signed a few EOs, meh. He really pissed off Canada. All he can actually do is read from the teleprompter and listen to the guy in his earpiece. Joe killed more jobs in a week, and lost more voters than he "won" the election by. Wait until energy prices start to skyrocket. People will miss Trump's "good old days".

2. Look at Xiden, listen to Xiden, he's a few days into his term and has zero command of facts. He can't do a real press conference, only ones where he can read the teleprompter. I'm just waiting for Nancy to 25th his pruny ass.

3. Keystone pipeline workers and the entire energy sector, as well as energy consumers, and counting, will be the deciding factor. As Xiden rolls out the democrat's agenda, more voters regret their votes for him.

4. You have no clue when you expound about Republicans. Never-Trumpers are pyrrhias, ugly lepers who might as well become democrats. Any "Never-Trumper" who runs in any primary will get single digit votes, just friends and family. True, Trump still has a significant following, but we realize that to win a national election you can't alienate women and minorities. As General Kelly said, "Trump is a very flawed man". But Trump started the populist GOP and is gaining "America First" democrats every time Xiden loses US jobs.

Look for many of these to enter the 2024 primary to take on Kamala.
Mike Pence, Trump's VP, competent, paid his dues
Mike Pompeo, 1st in his class at West Point, Secretary of State
Ted Cruz, Senator, runner-up to Trump in 2016, super smart
Nikki Haley, ex-governor, should get women vote
Dan Crenshaw, ex-Navy Seal, Lt. Commander.
Tom Cotton, ex-Army Captain, combat vet.
Josh Hawley, Senator, very smart high-end lawyer from Yale.
Ron Desantis, FL governor, doing a great job
Jim Jordan, OH congressman, fearless, tough as nails

VPs: Tim Scott if its Nikki Haley, and Kristi Noem if its a guy.

1. Joe Biden has already fielded more questions from reporters, as President Elect and now President, than Trump did during his entire term. After he lays out proposals and plans, he takes questions from the media. The idea that he is unfit for office because of his mental state is a myth.

2. Again, he has already spent more time answering questions from the media than Trump did during his entire 4 years in office. Trump did not know anything about being President or any elected office for that matter before he started as President. After four years, its clear by Trump's behavior that he did not learn anything either. Biden is going to be fine. As for Trump, he has all kinds of legal issues to deal with now in addition to a Senate Trial.

3. There are plenty of parts of the Energy Sector that would actually benefit from there not being a Keystone Pipeline.

4. Most Republicans and Democrats to a certain degree are zombies simply following whatever their political party chooses in terms of leaders and policies. That is the only way one can explain a party nominating and supporting George W. Bush who is the opposite of Donald J. Trump when it comes to beliefs and policies they support.

5. Never Trumpers will eventually retake the Republican party because they are simply closer to the political center of the country and which makes them more competitive in national elections. The Republican Party wants to win and will eventually return to candidates that are most competitive at the national level. Trumpism, although popular for a while, is a declining movement. Trump failed to win the popular vote in 2016 and in 2020. Trump only averaged 41% approval over his entire time, which is the worst average approval rating for any President in history according to the GALLUP POLL.
1. Trump had real pressers nearly every day, he holds the record, so stop lying. Trump fielded all questions from a very hostile press. Even with a sycophant press Xiden refuses to do a real press conference. We know Joe is unfit even if you don't admit it.

2. Joe hid in his basement during the campaign, and now never does a real press conference. As Xiden rolls-out the democrat agenda, he pissed off Canada and is costing US energy jobs. Voters will make a course correction in the 2022 and 2024 mid-terms.

3. I see words with no link. Prove the US energy sector is better w/o the Keystone pipeline. That's a lie.

4. Voters have complex algorithms for deciding who to vote for, and those votes need to be protected from voter fraud. Many voters vote "policies" rather than personalities. Xiden's open borders is not playing well.

5. Never-Trump globalists are closer to the middle of the country than Trump's America First populism? WTF are you smokin? Agreed that Trump had unnecessarily high negatives. The 1st debate showed that he still does not understand politics. If Trump had a softer persona he would have won in a landslide. My wife calls him an ill mannered bully who was apparently raised by wolves. She prefers presidents to be presidential.
This thread is depressing and makes me ill. LOL

Its hypothetical base on Trump still being legally able to run in 2024. It appears he has retained much of his base of support, which would prevent any like minded individuals from running if Trump decides to run. The only question is could a never Trumper challenge him for the nomination, and right now Kasich, the most likely never Trumper to challenge Trump in 2024 is losing by a landslide.

Did you miss the fact that he addressed the Democrat National Convention? He is a Democrat!

Republicans that care about the country more than their political party voted for BIDEN in the 2020 election. John Kasich is an American FIRST, being a member of the Republican Party is further down the list. The fact that he was willing to address the Democratic National Convention in order to help defeat Trump who was treasonous foreign agent for Putin while President, is why every Republican should support Kasich in 2024!
Not many RINOs voted for Biden over Trump.
If Kasich did, that just shows how stupid he is. I don't see Biden rewarding Kasich with a cabinet post?!
Your slimy smear of Trump as anything other than a great American president is just partisan TDS. The democrat coxuckers also called Tulsi Gabbard a Putin stooge. She is a veteran, more loyal to the US than any of the socialists.
Kasich is done as a Republican, trust me. Beating Kamala should be easy, if we can keep the democrat cheating to a minimum.
 
Its funny watching democrats pick a GOP candidate for president.
My list is much different. Trump is over, in 4-years he will be way over.
That said, if its Trump or Kamala, I'd proudly vote for Trump.

My primary preferences to take Kamala on are:
Mike Pence
Mike Pompeo
Ted Cruz
Nikki Haley
My wish list candidate is Elon Musk.

On my RINO never list is Kasich, Romney, Ryan, and every never-Trumper

Kamala won't be running for President until 2028. Joe Biden will be the Democratic nominee for 2024. For Kamala to be running in 2024, she would have to announce her campaign just two years from now in January 2023. Highly unlikely.

I could never support the Republicans you list because of their support for Trump:

Mike Pence
Mike Pompeo
Ted Cruz
Nikki Haley
My wish list candidate is Elon Musk.

I also think the only way Trump is done is if the Senate is able to convict him and then disqualify him from holding public office again. Otherwise, Trump will run again, because the support base is simply too large for him to not run. The only one that could challenge him for the nomination would be a Never Trumper like Kasich, and right now with this poll, Kasich is getting crushed.
1. We disagree about Joe Biden. IMHO its 50/50 he makes it to 2024 without getting the 25th boot from Nancy. He is barely coherent now and he's on the job a week.

2. If Joe is too old in 2024 Kamala would be up next for the dems. You can say run Joe again, but I can't picture Joe in 4-years being functional.

3. Democrats with TDS can make up all kinds of Trump related excuses, but we all know democrats vote for democrats unless there is a good reason to vote for a Republican, like in 2016 a lot of union workers liked Trump over Hillary. How many of the laid off Keystone pipeline workers will vote democrat in 2022 and 2024? None.

4. Trump could try to run in 2024, but IMHO he won't get the nomination. If he would win the nomination I'd vote for him over Kamala (or Joe).

5. You are very wrong about a Never-Trumper ever getting nominated again, they are all done, as your poll shows. I didn't even vote in that poll. Establishment Republicans are "conservative globalists" and we want "America First Populists". IMHO by 2024 the voters will have had more than enough of the democrat's policies.

1. Joe Biden has done more work as President-Elect for the past two months as well as speaking to the American People, than Donald Trump did for four years as President. Joe Biden is just fine and Nancy Pelosi who is 3 years older than Joe Biden is going to do everything she can to support Joe Biden.

2. Senator Diane Feinstein turns 88 this summer as does Representative Don Young. Both are ten years older than Biden. There are 7 serving U.S. Senators and 17 serving U.S. Representatives older than Biden, so this idea that he is too old is just ageism.

3. Keystone Pipeline workers won't be the deciding factor in the elections of 2022 or 2024.

4. The only one that could take away the nomination from Trump is a never Trumper and it does not appear the party has switched away from Trump to that degree. No one on the pro Trump side of the party is going to run against Trump if he runs in 2024. None of them have Trump's base of support which is much larger than it was in 2016.

5. The Democrats will prove more united in 2024 than the Republicans will be.
1. Joe Xiden is losing it, he signed a few EOs, meh. He really pissed off Canada. All he can actually do is read from the teleprompter and listen to the guy in his earpiece. Joe killed more jobs in a week, and lost more voters than he "won" the election by. Wait until energy prices start to skyrocket. People will miss Trump's "good old days".

2. Look at Xiden, listen to Xiden, he's a few days into his term and has zero command of facts. He can't do a real press conference, only ones where he can read the teleprompter. I'm just waiting for Nancy to 25th his pruny ass.

3. Keystone pipeline workers and the entire energy sector, as well as energy consumers, and counting, will be the deciding factor. As Xiden rolls out the democrat's agenda, more voters regret their votes for him.

4. You have no clue when you expound about Republicans. Never-Trumpers are pyrrhias, ugly lepers who might as well become democrats. Any "Never-Trumper" who runs in any primary will get single digit votes, just friends and family. True, Trump still has a significant following, but we realize that to win a national election you can't alienate women and minorities. As General Kelly said, "Trump is a very flawed man". But Trump started the populist GOP and is gaining "America First" democrats every time Xiden loses US jobs.

Look for many of these to enter the 2024 primary to take on Kamala.
Mike Pence, Trump's VP, competent, paid his dues
Mike Pompeo, 1st in his class at West Point, Secretary of State
Ted Cruz, Senator, runner-up to Trump in 2016, super smart
Nikki Haley, ex-governor, should get women vote
Dan Crenshaw, ex-Navy Seal, Lt. Commander.
Tom Cotton, ex-Army Captain, combat vet.
Josh Hawley, Senator, very smart high-end lawyer from Yale.
Ron Desantis, FL governor, doing a great job
Jim Jordan, OH congressman, fearless, tough as nails

VPs: Tim Scott if its Nikki Haley, and Kristi Noem if its a guy.

1. Joe Biden has already fielded more questions from reporters, as President Elect and now President, than Trump did during his entire term. After he lays out proposals and plans, he takes questions from the media. The idea that he is unfit for office because of his mental state is a myth.

2. Again, he has already spent more time answering questions from the media than Trump did during his entire 4 years in office. Trump did not know anything about being President or any elected office for that matter before he started as President. After four years, its clear by Trump's behavior that he did not learn anything either. Biden is going to be fine. As for Trump, he has all kinds of legal issues to deal with now in addition to a Senate Trial.

3. There are plenty of parts of the Energy Sector that would actually benefit from there not being a Keystone Pipeline.

4. Most Republicans and Democrats to a certain degree are zombies simply following whatever their political party chooses in terms of leaders and policies. That is the only way one can explain a party nominating and supporting George W. Bush who is the opposite of Donald J. Trump when it comes to beliefs and policies they support.

5. Never Trumpers will eventually retake the Republican party because they are simply closer to the political center of the country and which makes them more competitive in national elections. The Republican Party wants to win and will eventually return to candidates that are most competitive at the national level. Trumpism, although popular for a while, is a declining movement. Trump failed to win the popular vote in 2016 and in 2020. Trump only averaged 41% approval over his entire time, which is the worst average approval rating for any President in history according to the GALLUP POLL.
1. Trump had real pressers nearly every day, he holds the record, so stop lying. Trump fielded all questions from a very hostile press. Even with a sycophant press Xiden refuses to do a real press conference. We know Joe is unfit even if you don't admit it.

2. Joe hid in his basement during the campaign, and now never does a real press conference. As Xiden rolls-out the democrat agenda, he pissed off Canada and is costing US energy jobs. Voters will make a course correction in the 2022 and 2024 mid-terms.

3. I see words with no link. Prove the US energy sector is better w/o the Keystone pipeline. That's a lie.

4. Voters have complex algorithms for deciding who to vote for, and those votes need to be protected from voter fraud. Many voters vote "policies" rather than personalities. Xiden's open borders is not playing well.

5. Never-Trump globalists are closer to the middle of the country than Trump's America First populism? WTF are you smokin? Agreed that Trump had unnecessarily high negatives. The 1st debate showed that he still does not understand politics. If Trump had a softer persona he would have won in a landslide. My wife calls him an ill mannered bully who was apparently raised by wolves. She prefers presidents to be presidential.
This thread is depressing and makes me ill. LOL

Its hypothetical base on Trump still being legally able to run in 2024. It appears he has retained much of his base of support, which would prevent any like minded individuals from running if Trump decides to run. The only question is could a never Trumper challenge him for the nomination, and right now Kasich, the most likely never Trumper to challenge Trump in 2024 is losing by a landslide.

Did you miss the fact that he addressed the Democrat National Convention? He is a Democrat!

Republicans that care about the country more than their political party voted for BIDEN in the 2020 election. John Kasich is an American FIRST, being a member of the Republican Party is further down the list. The fact that he was willing to address the Democratic National Convention in order to help defeat Trump who was treasonous foreign agent for Putin while President, is why every Republican should support Kasich in 2024!
Not many RINOs voted for Biden over Trump.
If Kasich did, that just shows how stupid he is. I don't see Biden rewarding Kasich with a cabinet post?!
Your slimy smear of Trump as anything other than a great American president is just partisan TDS. The democrat coxuckers also called Tulsi Gabbard a Putin stooge. She is a veteran, more loyal to the US than any of the socialists.
Kasich is done as a Republican, trust me. Beating Kamala should be easy, if we can keep the democrat cheating to a minimum.

Well, certainly none of them voted for Trump. Trump lost the White House, the Senate, and the House of Representatives over his four years as President. Trump has the lowest average approval rating as President, 41% in the GALLUP, of any President in U.S. history. The United States is lucky to be rid of Trump and the influence of his supporters in congress. After nearly half a million dead from covid-19, the United States can finally get a on a path to defeating Covid-19 and saving lives. Trump did virtually nothing to fight Covid-19 while he was in office which explains the following:

Top 10 infected countries from Covid-19 on a per capita basis:

01. Andorra
02. Montenegro
03. Czech Republic
04. San Marino
05. Luxembourg
06. United States
07. Slovenia
08. Panama
09. Israel
10. Lithuania

Top 10 countries for deaths from Covid-19 on a per capita basis:

01. San Marino
02. Belgium
03. Slovenia
04. United Kingdom
05. Czech Republic
06. Italy
07. Bosnia
08. Liechtenstein
09. North Macedonia
10. United States

It should be noted that while Israel infection rate is high, they have already vaccinated 40% of their population compared to the United States which has only vaccinated 5% of its population. The United States has to start over on its strategy to vaccinate the population because Trump never really had a plan. Explains why Israel is at 40% while the United States is only at 5%.
 
Its funny watching democrats pick a GOP candidate for president.
My list is much different. Trump is over, in 4-years he will be way over.
That said, if its Trump or Kamala, I'd proudly vote for Trump.

My primary preferences to take Kamala on are:
Mike Pence
Mike Pompeo
Ted Cruz
Nikki Haley
My wish list candidate is Elon Musk.

On my RINO never list is Kasich, Romney, Ryan, and every never-Trumper

Kamala won't be running for President until 2028. Joe Biden will be the Democratic nominee for 2024. For Kamala to be running in 2024, she would have to announce her campaign just two years from now in January 2023. Highly unlikely.

I could never support the Republicans you list because of their support for Trump:

Mike Pence
Mike Pompeo
Ted Cruz
Nikki Haley
My wish list candidate is Elon Musk.

I also think the only way Trump is done is if the Senate is able to convict him and then disqualify him from holding public office again. Otherwise, Trump will run again, because the support base is simply too large for him to not run. The only one that could challenge him for the nomination would be a Never Trumper like Kasich, and right now with this poll, Kasich is getting crushed.
1. We disagree about Joe Biden. IMHO its 50/50 he makes it to 2024 without getting the 25th boot from Nancy. He is barely coherent now and he's on the job a week.

2. If Joe is too old in 2024 Kamala would be up next for the dems. You can say run Joe again, but I can't picture Joe in 4-years being functional.

3. Democrats with TDS can make up all kinds of Trump related excuses, but we all know democrats vote for democrats unless there is a good reason to vote for a Republican, like in 2016 a lot of union workers liked Trump over Hillary. How many of the laid off Keystone pipeline workers will vote democrat in 2022 and 2024? None.

4. Trump could try to run in 2024, but IMHO he won't get the nomination. If he would win the nomination I'd vote for him over Kamala (or Joe).

5. You are very wrong about a Never-Trumper ever getting nominated again, they are all done, as your poll shows. I didn't even vote in that poll. Establishment Republicans are "conservative globalists" and we want "America First Populists". IMHO by 2024 the voters will have had more than enough of the democrat's policies.

1. Joe Biden has done more work as President-Elect for the past two months as well as speaking to the American People, than Donald Trump did for four years as President. Joe Biden is just fine and Nancy Pelosi who is 3 years older than Joe Biden is going to do everything she can to support Joe Biden.

2. Senator Diane Feinstein turns 88 this summer as does Representative Don Young. Both are ten years older than Biden. There are 7 serving U.S. Senators and 17 serving U.S. Representatives older than Biden, so this idea that he is too old is just ageism.

3. Keystone Pipeline workers won't be the deciding factor in the elections of 2022 or 2024.

4. The only one that could take away the nomination from Trump is a never Trumper and it does not appear the party has switched away from Trump to that degree. No one on the pro Trump side of the party is going to run against Trump if he runs in 2024. None of them have Trump's base of support which is much larger than it was in 2016.

5. The Democrats will prove more united in 2024 than the Republicans will be.
1. Joe Xiden is losing it, he signed a few EOs, meh. He really pissed off Canada. All he can actually do is read from the teleprompter and listen to the guy in his earpiece. Joe killed more jobs in a week, and lost more voters than he "won" the election by. Wait until energy prices start to skyrocket. People will miss Trump's "good old days".

2. Look at Xiden, listen to Xiden, he's a few days into his term and has zero command of facts. He can't do a real press conference, only ones where he can read the teleprompter. I'm just waiting for Nancy to 25th his pruny ass.

3. Keystone pipeline workers and the entire energy sector, as well as energy consumers, and counting, will be the deciding factor. As Xiden rolls out the democrat's agenda, more voters regret their votes for him.

4. You have no clue when you expound about Republicans. Never-Trumpers are pyrrhias, ugly lepers who might as well become democrats. Any "Never-Trumper" who runs in any primary will get single digit votes, just friends and family. True, Trump still has a significant following, but we realize that to win a national election you can't alienate women and minorities. As General Kelly said, "Trump is a very flawed man". But Trump started the populist GOP and is gaining "America First" democrats every time Xiden loses US jobs.

Look for many of these to enter the 2024 primary to take on Kamala.
Mike Pence, Trump's VP, competent, paid his dues
Mike Pompeo, 1st in his class at West Point, Secretary of State
Ted Cruz, Senator, runner-up to Trump in 2016, super smart
Nikki Haley, ex-governor, should get women vote
Dan Crenshaw, ex-Navy Seal, Lt. Commander.
Tom Cotton, ex-Army Captain, combat vet.
Josh Hawley, Senator, very smart high-end lawyer from Yale.
Ron Desantis, FL governor, doing a great job
Jim Jordan, OH congressman, fearless, tough as nails

VPs: Tim Scott if its Nikki Haley, and Kristi Noem if its a guy.

1. Joe Biden has already fielded more questions from reporters, as President Elect and now President, than Trump did during his entire term. After he lays out proposals and plans, he takes questions from the media. The idea that he is unfit for office because of his mental state is a myth.

2. Again, he has already spent more time answering questions from the media than Trump did during his entire 4 years in office. Trump did not know anything about being President or any elected office for that matter before he started as President. After four years, its clear by Trump's behavior that he did not learn anything either. Biden is going to be fine. As for Trump, he has all kinds of legal issues to deal with now in addition to a Senate Trial.

3. There are plenty of parts of the Energy Sector that would actually benefit from there not being a Keystone Pipeline.

4. Most Republicans and Democrats to a certain degree are zombies simply following whatever their political party chooses in terms of leaders and policies. That is the only way one can explain a party nominating and supporting George W. Bush who is the opposite of Donald J. Trump when it comes to beliefs and policies they support.

5. Never Trumpers will eventually retake the Republican party because they are simply closer to the political center of the country and which makes them more competitive in national elections. The Republican Party wants to win and will eventually return to candidates that are most competitive at the national level. Trumpism, although popular for a while, is a declining movement. Trump failed to win the popular vote in 2016 and in 2020. Trump only averaged 41% approval over his entire time, which is the worst average approval rating for any President in history according to the GALLUP POLL.
1. Trump had real pressers nearly every day, he holds the record, so stop lying. Trump fielded all questions from a very hostile press. Even with a sycophant press Xiden refuses to do a real press conference. We know Joe is unfit even if you don't admit it.

2. Joe hid in his basement during the campaign, and now never does a real press conference. As Xiden rolls-out the democrat agenda, he pissed off Canada and is costing US energy jobs. Voters will make a course correction in the 2022 and 2024 mid-terms.

3. I see words with no link. Prove the US energy sector is better w/o the Keystone pipeline. That's a lie.

4. Voters have complex algorithms for deciding who to vote for, and those votes need to be protected from voter fraud. Many voters vote "policies" rather than personalities. Xiden's open borders is not playing well.

5. Never-Trump globalists are closer to the middle of the country than Trump's America First populism? WTF are you smokin? Agreed that Trump had unnecessarily high negatives. The 1st debate showed that he still does not understand politics. If Trump had a softer persona he would have won in a landslide. My wife calls him an ill mannered bully who was apparently raised by wolves. She prefers presidents to be presidential.
This thread is depressing and makes me ill. LOL

Its hypothetical base on Trump still being legally able to run in 2024. It appears he has retained much of his base of support, which would prevent any like minded individuals from running if Trump decides to run. The only question is could a never Trumper challenge him for the nomination, and right now Kasich, the most likely never Trumper to challenge Trump in 2024 is losing by a landslide.

Did you miss the fact that he addressed the Democrat National Convention? He is a Democrat!

Republicans that care about the country more than their political party voted for BIDEN in the 2020 election. John Kasich is an American FIRST, being a member of the Republican Party is further down the list. The fact that he was willing to address the Democratic National Convention in order to help defeat Trump who was treasonous foreign agent for Putin while President, is why every Republican should support Kasich in 2024!
Not many RINOs voted for Biden over Trump.
If Kasich did, that just shows how stupid he is. I don't see Biden rewarding Kasich with a cabinet post?!
Your slimy smear of Trump as anything other than a great American president is just partisan TDS. The democrat coxuckers also called Tulsi Gabbard a Putin stooge. She is a veteran, more loyal to the US than any of the socialists.
Kasich is done as a Republican, trust me. Beating Kamala should be easy, if we can keep the democrat cheating to a minimum.

Well, certainly none of them voted for Trump. Trump lost the White House, the Senate, and the House of Representatives over his four years as President. Trump has the lowest average approval rating as President, 41% in the GALLUP, of any President in U.S. history. The United States is lucky to be rid of Trump and the influence of his supporters in congress. After nearly half a million dead from covid-19, the United States can finally get a on a path to defeating Covid-19 and saving lives. Trump did virtually nothing to fight Covid-19 while he was in office which explains the following:

It should be noted that while Israel infection rate is high, they have already vaccinated 40% of their population compared to the United States which has only vaccinated 5% of its population. The United States has to start over on its strategy to vaccinate the population because Trump never really had a plan. Explains why Israel is at 40% while the United States is only at 5%.
1. Polls are garbage, just ask Hillary and her 95% probability of winning, as well as the 2020 "blue wave".
Trump lost primarily due to voter fraud, the GOP gained House seats and didn't lose any, and the senate was lost by GOP stupidity running Doug Collins against fellow Republican Kelly Loeffler, not any anti-Trump vote.

2. If Trump did nothing to fight covid-19, why do we have (5) covid-19 vaccines in 8-months? That is a medical miracle. It normally takes years to develop vaccines. You're welcome. Look what the vaccines are doing to the infection rate, no thanks to Biden and the democrats,
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Its funny watching democrats pick a GOP candidate for president.
My list is much different. Trump is over, in 4-years he will be way over.
That said, if its Trump or Kamala, I'd proudly vote for Trump.

My primary preferences to take Kamala on are:
Mike Pence
Mike Pompeo
Ted Cruz
Nikki Haley
My wish list candidate is Elon Musk.

On my RINO never list is Kasich, Romney, Ryan, and every never-Trumper

Kamala won't be running for President until 2028. Joe Biden will be the Democratic nominee for 2024. For Kamala to be running in 2024, she would have to announce her campaign just two years from now in January 2023. Highly unlikely.

I could never support the Republicans you list because of their support for Trump:

Mike Pence
Mike Pompeo
Ted Cruz
Nikki Haley
My wish list candidate is Elon Musk.

I also think the only way Trump is done is if the Senate is able to convict him and then disqualify him from holding public office again. Otherwise, Trump will run again, because the support base is simply too large for him to not run. The only one that could challenge him for the nomination would be a Never Trumper like Kasich, and right now with this poll, Kasich is getting crushed.
1. We disagree about Joe Biden. IMHO its 50/50 he makes it to 2024 without getting the 25th boot from Nancy. He is barely coherent now and he's on the job a week.

2. If Joe is too old in 2024 Kamala would be up next for the dems. You can say run Joe again, but I can't picture Joe in 4-years being functional.

3. Democrats with TDS can make up all kinds of Trump related excuses, but we all know democrats vote for democrats unless there is a good reason to vote for a Republican, like in 2016 a lot of union workers liked Trump over Hillary. How many of the laid off Keystone pipeline workers will vote democrat in 2022 and 2024? None.

4. Trump could try to run in 2024, but IMHO he won't get the nomination. If he would win the nomination I'd vote for him over Kamala (or Joe).

5. You are very wrong about a Never-Trumper ever getting nominated again, they are all done, as your poll shows. I didn't even vote in that poll. Establishment Republicans are "conservative globalists" and we want "America First Populists". IMHO by 2024 the voters will have had more than enough of the democrat's policies.

1. Joe Biden has done more work as President-Elect for the past two months as well as speaking to the American People, than Donald Trump did for four years as President. Joe Biden is just fine and Nancy Pelosi who is 3 years older than Joe Biden is going to do everything she can to support Joe Biden.

2. Senator Diane Feinstein turns 88 this summer as does Representative Don Young. Both are ten years older than Biden. There are 7 serving U.S. Senators and 17 serving U.S. Representatives older than Biden, so this idea that he is too old is just ageism.

3. Keystone Pipeline workers won't be the deciding factor in the elections of 2022 or 2024.

4. The only one that could take away the nomination from Trump is a never Trumper and it does not appear the party has switched away from Trump to that degree. No one on the pro Trump side of the party is going to run against Trump if he runs in 2024. None of them have Trump's base of support which is much larger than it was in 2016.

5. The Democrats will prove more united in 2024 than the Republicans will be.
1. Joe Xiden is losing it, he signed a few EOs, meh. He really pissed off Canada. All he can actually do is read from the teleprompter and listen to the guy in his earpiece. Joe killed more jobs in a week, and lost more voters than he "won" the election by. Wait until energy prices start to skyrocket. People will miss Trump's "good old days".

2. Look at Xiden, listen to Xiden, he's a few days into his term and has zero command of facts. He can't do a real press conference, only ones where he can read the teleprompter. I'm just waiting for Nancy to 25th his pruny ass.

3. Keystone pipeline workers and the entire energy sector, as well as energy consumers, and counting, will be the deciding factor. As Xiden rolls out the democrat's agenda, more voters regret their votes for him.

4. You have no clue when you expound about Republicans. Never-Trumpers are pyrrhias, ugly lepers who might as well become democrats. Any "Never-Trumper" who runs in any primary will get single digit votes, just friends and family. True, Trump still has a significant following, but we realize that to win a national election you can't alienate women and minorities. As General Kelly said, "Trump is a very flawed man". But Trump started the populist GOP and is gaining "America First" democrats every time Xiden loses US jobs.

Look for many of these to enter the 2024 primary to take on Kamala.
Mike Pence, Trump's VP, competent, paid his dues
Mike Pompeo, 1st in his class at West Point, Secretary of State
Ted Cruz, Senator, runner-up to Trump in 2016, super smart
Nikki Haley, ex-governor, should get women vote
Dan Crenshaw, ex-Navy Seal, Lt. Commander.
Tom Cotton, ex-Army Captain, combat vet.
Josh Hawley, Senator, very smart high-end lawyer from Yale.
Ron Desantis, FL governor, doing a great job
Jim Jordan, OH congressman, fearless, tough as nails

VPs: Tim Scott if its Nikki Haley, and Kristi Noem if its a guy.

1. Joe Biden has already fielded more questions from reporters, as President Elect and now President, than Trump did during his entire term. After he lays out proposals and plans, he takes questions from the media. The idea that he is unfit for office because of his mental state is a myth.

2. Again, he has already spent more time answering questions from the media than Trump did during his entire 4 years in office. Trump did not know anything about being President or any elected office for that matter before he started as President. After four years, its clear by Trump's behavior that he did not learn anything either. Biden is going to be fine. As for Trump, he has all kinds of legal issues to deal with now in addition to a Senate Trial.

3. There are plenty of parts of the Energy Sector that would actually benefit from there not being a Keystone Pipeline.

4. Most Republicans and Democrats to a certain degree are zombies simply following whatever their political party chooses in terms of leaders and policies. That is the only way one can explain a party nominating and supporting George W. Bush who is the opposite of Donald J. Trump when it comes to beliefs and policies they support.

5. Never Trumpers will eventually retake the Republican party because they are simply closer to the political center of the country and which makes them more competitive in national elections. The Republican Party wants to win and will eventually return to candidates that are most competitive at the national level. Trumpism, although popular for a while, is a declining movement. Trump failed to win the popular vote in 2016 and in 2020. Trump only averaged 41% approval over his entire time, which is the worst average approval rating for any President in history according to the GALLUP POLL.
1. Trump had real pressers nearly every day, he holds the record, so stop lying. Trump fielded all questions from a very hostile press. Even with a sycophant press Xiden refuses to do a real press conference. We know Joe is unfit even if you don't admit it.

2. Joe hid in his basement during the campaign, and now never does a real press conference. As Xiden rolls-out the democrat agenda, he pissed off Canada and is costing US energy jobs. Voters will make a course correction in the 2022 and 2024 mid-terms.

3. I see words with no link. Prove the US energy sector is better w/o the Keystone pipeline. That's a lie.

4. Voters have complex algorithms for deciding who to vote for, and those votes need to be protected from voter fraud. Many voters vote "policies" rather than personalities. Xiden's open borders is not playing well.

5. Never-Trump globalists are closer to the middle of the country than Trump's America First populism? WTF are you smokin? Agreed that Trump had unnecessarily high negatives. The 1st debate showed that he still does not understand politics. If Trump had a softer persona he would have won in a landslide. My wife calls him an ill mannered bully who was apparently raised by wolves. She prefers presidents to be presidential.
This thread is depressing and makes me ill. LOL

Its hypothetical base on Trump still being legally able to run in 2024. It appears he has retained much of his base of support, which would prevent any like minded individuals from running if Trump decides to run. The only question is could a never Trumper challenge him for the nomination, and right now Kasich, the most likely never Trumper to challenge Trump in 2024 is losing by a landslide.

Did you miss the fact that he addressed the Democrat National Convention? He is a Democrat!

Republicans that care about the country more than their political party voted for BIDEN in the 2020 election. John Kasich is an American FIRST, being a member of the Republican Party is further down the list. The fact that he was willing to address the Democratic National Convention in order to help defeat Trump who was treasonous foreign agent for Putin while President, is why every Republican should support Kasich in 2024!
Not many RINOs voted for Biden over Trump.
If Kasich did, that just shows how stupid he is. I don't see Biden rewarding Kasich with a cabinet post?!
Your slimy smear of Trump as anything other than a great American president is just partisan TDS. The democrat coxuckers also called Tulsi Gabbard a Putin stooge. She is a veteran, more loyal to the US than any of the socialists.
Kasich is done as a Republican, trust me. Beating Kamala should be easy, if we can keep the democrat cheating to a minimum.

Well, certainly none of them voted for Trump. Trump lost the White House, the Senate, and the House of Representatives over his four years as President. Trump has the lowest average approval rating as President, 41% in the GALLUP, of any President in U.S. history. The United States is lucky to be rid of Trump and the influence of his supporters in congress. After nearly half a million dead from covid-19, the United States can finally get a on a path to defeating Covid-19 and saving lives. Trump did virtually nothing to fight Covid-19 while he was in office which explains the following:

It should be noted that while Israel infection rate is high, they have already vaccinated 40% of their population compared to the United States which has only vaccinated 5% of its population. The United States has to start over on its strategy to vaccinate the population because Trump never really had a plan. Explains why Israel is at 40% while the United States is only at 5%.
1. Polls are garbage, just ask Hillary and her 95% probability of winning, as well as the 2020 "blue wave".
Trump lost primarily due to voter fraud, the GOP gained House seats and didn't lose any, and the senate was lost by GOP stupidity running Doug Collins against fellow Republican Kelly Loeffler, not any anti-Trump vote.

2. If Trump did nothing to fight covid-19, why do we have (5) covid-19 vaccines in 8-months? That is a medical miracle. It normally takes years to develop vaccines. You're welcome. Look what the vaccines are doing to the infection rate, no thanks to Biden and the democrats,
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11 months, and what exactly did Trump do to develop the vaccines. Remember this classic from Trump about what to do about Covid-19:

Sarah Cooper Impersonating Trump Compilation (lip sync parody) - YouTube

Getting ultraviolet light into the body or injecting bleach? No wonder the United States is in the top 10 for the worst per capita infections and deaths from covid-19.

430,000 Americans are dead now from covid-19! In TAIWAN, only 7 have died from covid-19!
 
Its funny watching democrats pick a GOP candidate for president.
My list is much different. Trump is over, in 4-years he will be way over.
That said, if its Trump or Kamala, I'd proudly vote for Trump.

My primary preferences to take Kamala on are:
Mike Pence
Mike Pompeo
Ted Cruz
Nikki Haley
My wish list candidate is Elon Musk.

On my RINO never list is Kasich, Romney, Ryan, and every never-Trumper

Kamala won't be running for President until 2028. Joe Biden will be the Democratic nominee for 2024. For Kamala to be running in 2024, she would have to announce her campaign just two years from now in January 2023. Highly unlikely.

I could never support the Republicans you list because of their support for Trump:

Mike Pence
Mike Pompeo
Ted Cruz
Nikki Haley
My wish list candidate is Elon Musk.

I also think the only way Trump is done is if the Senate is able to convict him and then disqualify him from holding public office again. Otherwise, Trump will run again, because the support base is simply too large for him to not run. The only one that could challenge him for the nomination would be a Never Trumper like Kasich, and right now with this poll, Kasich is getting crushed.
1. We disagree about Joe Biden. IMHO its 50/50 he makes it to 2024 without getting the 25th boot from Nancy. He is barely coherent now and he's on the job a week.

2. If Joe is too old in 2024 Kamala would be up next for the dems. You can say run Joe again, but I can't picture Joe in 4-years being functional.

3. Democrats with TDS can make up all kinds of Trump related excuses, but we all know democrats vote for democrats unless there is a good reason to vote for a Republican, like in 2016 a lot of union workers liked Trump over Hillary. How many of the laid off Keystone pipeline workers will vote democrat in 2022 and 2024? None.

4. Trump could try to run in 2024, but IMHO he won't get the nomination. If he would win the nomination I'd vote for him over Kamala (or Joe).

5. You are very wrong about a Never-Trumper ever getting nominated again, they are all done, as your poll shows. I didn't even vote in that poll. Establishment Republicans are "conservative globalists" and we want "America First Populists". IMHO by 2024 the voters will have had more than enough of the democrat's policies.

1. Joe Biden has done more work as President-Elect for the past two months as well as speaking to the American People, than Donald Trump did for four years as President. Joe Biden is just fine and Nancy Pelosi who is 3 years older than Joe Biden is going to do everything she can to support Joe Biden.

2. Senator Diane Feinstein turns 88 this summer as does Representative Don Young. Both are ten years older than Biden. There are 7 serving U.S. Senators and 17 serving U.S. Representatives older than Biden, so this idea that he is too old is just ageism.

3. Keystone Pipeline workers won't be the deciding factor in the elections of 2022 or 2024.

4. The only one that could take away the nomination from Trump is a never Trumper and it does not appear the party has switched away from Trump to that degree. No one on the pro Trump side of the party is going to run against Trump if he runs in 2024. None of them have Trump's base of support which is much larger than it was in 2016.

5. The Democrats will prove more united in 2024 than the Republicans will be.
1. Joe Xiden is losing it, he signed a few EOs, meh. He really pissed off Canada. All he can actually do is read from the teleprompter and listen to the guy in his earpiece. Joe killed more jobs in a week, and lost more voters than he "won" the election by. Wait until energy prices start to skyrocket. People will miss Trump's "good old days".

2. Look at Xiden, listen to Xiden, he's a few days into his term and has zero command of facts. He can't do a real press conference, only ones where he can read the teleprompter. I'm just waiting for Nancy to 25th his pruny ass.

3. Keystone pipeline workers and the entire energy sector, as well as energy consumers, and counting, will be the deciding factor. As Xiden rolls out the democrat's agenda, more voters regret their votes for him.

4. You have no clue when you expound about Republicans. Never-Trumpers are pyrrhias, ugly lepers who might as well become democrats. Any "Never-Trumper" who runs in any primary will get single digit votes, just friends and family. True, Trump still has a significant following, but we realize that to win a national election you can't alienate women and minorities. As General Kelly said, "Trump is a very flawed man". But Trump started the populist GOP and is gaining "America First" democrats every time Xiden loses US jobs.

Look for many of these to enter the 2024 primary to take on Kamala.
Mike Pence, Trump's VP, competent, paid his dues
Mike Pompeo, 1st in his class at West Point, Secretary of State
Ted Cruz, Senator, runner-up to Trump in 2016, super smart
Nikki Haley, ex-governor, should get women vote
Dan Crenshaw, ex-Navy Seal, Lt. Commander.
Tom Cotton, ex-Army Captain, combat vet.
Josh Hawley, Senator, very smart high-end lawyer from Yale.
Ron Desantis, FL governor, doing a great job
Jim Jordan, OH congressman, fearless, tough as nails

VPs: Tim Scott if its Nikki Haley, and Kristi Noem if its a guy.

1. Joe Biden has already fielded more questions from reporters, as President Elect and now President, than Trump did during his entire term. After he lays out proposals and plans, he takes questions from the media. The idea that he is unfit for office because of his mental state is a myth.

2. Again, he has already spent more time answering questions from the media than Trump did during his entire 4 years in office. Trump did not know anything about being President or any elected office for that matter before he started as President. After four years, its clear by Trump's behavior that he did not learn anything either. Biden is going to be fine. As for Trump, he has all kinds of legal issues to deal with now in addition to a Senate Trial.

3. There are plenty of parts of the Energy Sector that would actually benefit from there not being a Keystone Pipeline.

4. Most Republicans and Democrats to a certain degree are zombies simply following whatever their political party chooses in terms of leaders and policies. That is the only way one can explain a party nominating and supporting George W. Bush who is the opposite of Donald J. Trump when it comes to beliefs and policies they support.

5. Never Trumpers will eventually retake the Republican party because they are simply closer to the political center of the country and which makes them more competitive in national elections. The Republican Party wants to win and will eventually return to candidates that are most competitive at the national level. Trumpism, although popular for a while, is a declining movement. Trump failed to win the popular vote in 2016 and in 2020. Trump only averaged 41% approval over his entire time, which is the worst average approval rating for any President in history according to the GALLUP POLL.
1. Trump had real pressers nearly every day, he holds the record, so stop lying. Trump fielded all questions from a very hostile press. Even with a sycophant press Xiden refuses to do a real press conference. We know Joe is unfit even if you don't admit it.

2. Joe hid in his basement during the campaign, and now never does a real press conference. As Xiden rolls-out the democrat agenda, he pissed off Canada and is costing US energy jobs. Voters will make a course correction in the 2022 and 2024 mid-terms.

3. I see words with no link. Prove the US energy sector is better w/o the Keystone pipeline. That's a lie.

4. Voters have complex algorithms for deciding who to vote for, and those votes need to be protected from voter fraud. Many voters vote "policies" rather than personalities. Xiden's open borders is not playing well.

5. Never-Trump globalists are closer to the middle of the country than Trump's America First populism? WTF are you smokin? Agreed that Trump had unnecessarily high negatives. The 1st debate showed that he still does not understand politics. If Trump had a softer persona he would have won in a landslide. My wife calls him an ill mannered bully who was apparently raised by wolves. She prefers presidents to be presidential.
This thread is depressing and makes me ill. LOL

Its hypothetical base on Trump still being legally able to run in 2024. It appears he has retained much of his base of support, which would prevent any like minded individuals from running if Trump decides to run. The only question is could a never Trumper challenge him for the nomination, and right now Kasich, the most likely never Trumper to challenge Trump in 2024 is losing by a landslide.

Did you miss the fact that he addressed the Democrat National Convention? He is a Democrat!

Republicans that care about the country more than their political party voted for BIDEN in the 2020 election. John Kasich is an American FIRST, being a member of the Republican Party is further down the list. The fact that he was willing to address the Democratic National Convention in order to help defeat Trump who was treasonous foreign agent for Putin while President, is why every Republican should support Kasich in 2024!
Not many RINOs voted for Biden over Trump.
If Kasich did, that just shows how stupid he is. I don't see Biden rewarding Kasich with a cabinet post?!
Your slimy smear of Trump as anything other than a great American president is just partisan TDS. The democrat coxuckers also called Tulsi Gabbard a Putin stooge. She is a veteran, more loyal to the US than any of the socialists.
Kasich is done as a Republican, trust me. Beating Kamala should be easy, if we can keep the democrat cheating to a minimum.

Well, certainly none of them voted for Trump. Trump lost the White House, the Senate, and the House of Representatives over his four years as President. Trump has the lowest average approval rating as President, 41% in the GALLUP, of any President in U.S. history. The United States is lucky to be rid of Trump and the influence of his supporters in congress. After nearly half a million dead from covid-19, the United States can finally get a on a path to defeating Covid-19 and saving lives. Trump did virtually nothing to fight Covid-19 while he was in office which explains the following:

It should be noted that while Israel infection rate is high, they have already vaccinated 40% of their population compared to the United States which has only vaccinated 5% of its population. The United States has to start over on its strategy to vaccinate the population because Trump never really had a plan. Explains why Israel is at 40% while the United States is only at 5%.
1. Polls are garbage, just ask Hillary and her 95% probability of winning, as well as the 2020 "blue wave".
Trump lost primarily due to voter fraud, the GOP gained House seats and didn't lose any, and the senate was lost by GOP stupidity running Doug Collins against fellow Republican Kelly Loeffler, not any anti-Trump vote.

2. If Trump did nothing to fight covid-19, why do we have (5) covid-19 vaccines in 8-months? That is a medical miracle. It normally takes years to develop vaccines. You're welcome. Look what the vaccines are doing to the infection rate, no thanks to Biden and the democrats,
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There was NO voter fraud.. Trump sabotaged his reelection.
 
Evan McMullen.. He's smart and decent, educated and well qualified.
He ran already, and couldn't even carry his home state.
He was Bill Krystol's collateral sacrificial lamb to Trump in 2016.
He won't even make it on the stage. Who wants a CIA spook as president?
 
Evan McMullen.. He's smart and decent, educated and well qualified.
He ran already, and couldn't even carry his home state.
He was Bill Krystol's collateral sacrificial lamb to Trump in 2016.
He won't even make it on the stage. Who wants a CIA spook as president?

He didn't enter the race until the last minute. Have you heard him speak? He's much more than a CIA officer.
 
Its funny watching democrats pick a GOP candidate for president.
My list is much different. Trump is over, in 4-years he will be way over.
That said, if its Trump or Kamala, I'd proudly vote for Trump.

My primary preferences to take Kamala on are:
Mike Pence
Mike Pompeo
Ted Cruz
Nikki Haley
My wish list candidate is Elon Musk.

On my RINO never list is Kasich, Romney, Ryan, and every never-Trumper

Kamala won't be running for President until 2028. Joe Biden will be the Democratic nominee for 2024. For Kamala to be running in 2024, she would have to announce her campaign just two years from now in January 2023. Highly unlikely.

I could never support the Republicans you list because of their support for Trump:

Mike Pence
Mike Pompeo
Ted Cruz
Nikki Haley
My wish list candidate is Elon Musk.

I also think the only way Trump is done is if the Senate is able to convict him and then disqualify him from holding public office again. Otherwise, Trump will run again, because the support base is simply too large for him to not run. The only one that could challenge him for the nomination would be a Never Trumper like Kasich, and right now with this poll, Kasich is getting crushed.
1. We disagree about Joe Biden. IMHO its 50/50 he makes it to 2024 without getting the 25th boot from Nancy. He is barely coherent now and he's on the job a week.

2. If Joe is too old in 2024 Kamala would be up next for the dems. You can say run Joe again, but I can't picture Joe in 4-years being functional.

3. Democrats with TDS can make up all kinds of Trump related excuses, but we all know democrats vote for democrats unless there is a good reason to vote for a Republican, like in 2016 a lot of union workers liked Trump over Hillary. How many of the laid off Keystone pipeline workers will vote democrat in 2022 and 2024? None.

4. Trump could try to run in 2024, but IMHO he won't get the nomination. If he would win the nomination I'd vote for him over Kamala (or Joe).

5. You are very wrong about a Never-Trumper ever getting nominated again, they are all done, as your poll shows. I didn't even vote in that poll. Establishment Republicans are "conservative globalists" and we want "America First Populists". IMHO by 2024 the voters will have had more than enough of the democrat's policies.

1. Joe Biden has done more work as President-Elect for the past two months as well as speaking to the American People, than Donald Trump did for four years as President. Joe Biden is just fine and Nancy Pelosi who is 3 years older than Joe Biden is going to do everything she can to support Joe Biden.

2. Senator Diane Feinstein turns 88 this summer as does Representative Don Young. Both are ten years older than Biden. There are 7 serving U.S. Senators and 17 serving U.S. Representatives older than Biden, so this idea that he is too old is just ageism.

3. Keystone Pipeline workers won't be the deciding factor in the elections of 2022 or 2024.

4. The only one that could take away the nomination from Trump is a never Trumper and it does not appear the party has switched away from Trump to that degree. No one on the pro Trump side of the party is going to run against Trump if he runs in 2024. None of them have Trump's base of support which is much larger than it was in 2016.

5. The Democrats will prove more united in 2024 than the Republicans will be.
1. Joe Xiden is losing it, he signed a few EOs, meh. He really pissed off Canada. All he can actually do is read from the teleprompter and listen to the guy in his earpiece. Joe killed more jobs in a week, and lost more voters than he "won" the election by. Wait until energy prices start to skyrocket. People will miss Trump's "good old days".

2. Look at Xiden, listen to Xiden, he's a few days into his term and has zero command of facts. He can't do a real press conference, only ones where he can read the teleprompter. I'm just waiting for Nancy to 25th his pruny ass.

3. Keystone pipeline workers and the entire energy sector, as well as energy consumers, and counting, will be the deciding factor. As Xiden rolls out the democrat's agenda, more voters regret their votes for him.

4. You have no clue when you expound about Republicans. Never-Trumpers are pyrrhias, ugly lepers who might as well become democrats. Any "Never-Trumper" who runs in any primary will get single digit votes, just friends and family. True, Trump still has a significant following, but we realize that to win a national election you can't alienate women and minorities. As General Kelly said, "Trump is a very flawed man". But Trump started the populist GOP and is gaining "America First" democrats every time Xiden loses US jobs.

Look for many of these to enter the 2024 primary to take on Kamala.
Mike Pence, Trump's VP, competent, paid his dues
Mike Pompeo, 1st in his class at West Point, Secretary of State
Ted Cruz, Senator, runner-up to Trump in 2016, super smart
Nikki Haley, ex-governor, should get women vote
Dan Crenshaw, ex-Navy Seal, Lt. Commander.
Tom Cotton, ex-Army Captain, combat vet.
Josh Hawley, Senator, very smart high-end lawyer from Yale.
Ron Desantis, FL governor, doing a great job
Jim Jordan, OH congressman, fearless, tough as nails

VPs: Tim Scott if its Nikki Haley, and Kristi Noem if its a guy.

1. Joe Biden has already fielded more questions from reporters, as President Elect and now President, than Trump did during his entire term. After he lays out proposals and plans, he takes questions from the media. The idea that he is unfit for office because of his mental state is a myth.

2. Again, he has already spent more time answering questions from the media than Trump did during his entire 4 years in office. Trump did not know anything about being President or any elected office for that matter before he started as President. After four years, its clear by Trump's behavior that he did not learn anything either. Biden is going to be fine. As for Trump, he has all kinds of legal issues to deal with now in addition to a Senate Trial.

3. There are plenty of parts of the Energy Sector that would actually benefit from there not being a Keystone Pipeline.

4. Most Republicans and Democrats to a certain degree are zombies simply following whatever their political party chooses in terms of leaders and policies. That is the only way one can explain a party nominating and supporting George W. Bush who is the opposite of Donald J. Trump when it comes to beliefs and policies they support.

5. Never Trumpers will eventually retake the Republican party because they are simply closer to the political center of the country and which makes them more competitive in national elections. The Republican Party wants to win and will eventually return to candidates that are most competitive at the national level. Trumpism, although popular for a while, is a declining movement. Trump failed to win the popular vote in 2016 and in 2020. Trump only averaged 41% approval over his entire time, which is the worst average approval rating for any President in history according to the GALLUP POLL.
1. Trump had real pressers nearly every day, he holds the record, so stop lying. Trump fielded all questions from a very hostile press. Even with a sycophant press Xiden refuses to do a real press conference. We know Joe is unfit even if you don't admit it.

2. Joe hid in his basement during the campaign, and now never does a real press conference. As Xiden rolls-out the democrat agenda, he pissed off Canada and is costing US energy jobs. Voters will make a course correction in the 2022 and 2024 mid-terms.

3. I see words with no link. Prove the US energy sector is better w/o the Keystone pipeline. That's a lie.

4. Voters have complex algorithms for deciding who to vote for, and those votes need to be protected from voter fraud. Many voters vote "policies" rather than personalities. Xiden's open borders is not playing well.

5. Never-Trump globalists are closer to the middle of the country than Trump's America First populism? WTF are you smokin? Agreed that Trump had unnecessarily high negatives. The 1st debate showed that he still does not understand politics. If Trump had a softer persona he would have won in a landslide. My wife calls him an ill mannered bully who was apparently raised by wolves. She prefers presidents to be presidential.
This thread is depressing and makes me ill. LOL

Its hypothetical base on Trump still being legally able to run in 2024. It appears he has retained much of his base of support, which would prevent any like minded individuals from running if Trump decides to run. The only question is could a never Trumper challenge him for the nomination, and right now Kasich, the most likely never Trumper to challenge Trump in 2024 is losing by a landslide.

Did you miss the fact that he addressed the Democrat National Convention? He is a Democrat!

Republicans that care about the country more than their political party voted for BIDEN in the 2020 election. John Kasich is an American FIRST, being a member of the Republican Party is further down the list. The fact that he was willing to address the Democratic National Convention in order to help defeat Trump who was treasonous foreign agent for Putin while President, is why every Republican should support Kasich in 2024!
Not many RINOs voted for Biden over Trump.
If Kasich did, that just shows how stupid he is. I don't see Biden rewarding Kasich with a cabinet post?!
Your slimy smear of Trump as anything other than a great American president is just partisan TDS. The democrat coxuckers also called Tulsi Gabbard a Putin stooge. She is a veteran, more loyal to the US than any of the socialists.
Kasich is done as a Republican, trust me. Beating Kamala should be easy, if we can keep the democrat cheating to a minimum.

Well, certainly none of them voted for Trump. Trump lost the White House, the Senate, and the House of Representatives over his four years as President. Trump has the lowest average approval rating as President, 41% in the GALLUP, of any President in U.S. history. The United States is lucky to be rid of Trump and the influence of his supporters in congress. After nearly half a million dead from covid-19, the United States can finally get a on a path to defeating Covid-19 and saving lives. Trump did virtually nothing to fight Covid-19 while he was in office which explains the following:

It should be noted that while Israel infection rate is high, they have already vaccinated 40% of their population compared to the United States which has only vaccinated 5% of its population. The United States has to start over on its strategy to vaccinate the population because Trump never really had a plan. Explains why Israel is at 40% while the United States is only at 5%.
1. Polls are garbage, just ask Hillary and her 95% probability of winning, as well as the 2020 "blue wave".
Trump lost primarily due to voter fraud, the GOP gained House seats and didn't lose any, and the senate was lost by GOP stupidity running Doug Collins against fellow Republican Kelly Loeffler, not any anti-Trump vote.

2. If Trump did nothing to fight covid-19, why do we have (5) covid-19 vaccines in 8-months? That is a medical miracle. It normally takes years to develop vaccines. You're welcome. Look what the vaccines are doing to the infection rate, no thanks to Biden and the democrats,
View attachment 448446

11 months, and what exactly did Trump do to develop the vaccines. Remember this classic from Trump about what to do about Covid-19:

Sarah Cooper Impersonating Trump Compilation (lip sync parody) - YouTube

Getting ultraviolet light into the body or injecting bleach? No wonder the United States is in the top 10 for the worst per capita infections and deaths from covid-19.

430,000 Americans are dead now from covid-19! In TAIWAN, only 7 have died from covid-19!
Read the articles below, especially the paragraph where Dr. Fauci said that it will take between 12 and 18 months to get vaccines produced, and even that would be a medical miracle.

Trump administration outlines audacious plan to deliver ‘hundreds of millions’ of Covid-19 vaccine doses by end of 2020
"The rollout highlights an overt shift in the White House’s messaging on vaccines. Anthony Fauci, the federal government’s top infectious disease researcher, has long warned Americans that, even optimistically, developing a Covid-19 vaccine would take between 12 and 18 months. Even that timeline, Fauci has said, would represent something of a biomedical miracle."

...through a series of announcements beginning on March 30th, the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services (HHS) started a program they coined “Operation Warp Speed,” (OWS) in an attempt to expedite a COVID-19 vaccine.

The crucial piece of OWS, beyond allocating hefty funds for vaccine research and development, was that it fundamentally changed how pharmaceutical and biotechnology companies assess the risk of conducting large-scale clinical trials on a brand-new vaccine. This was achieved through the HHS building the requisite infrastructure and guaranteeing the manufacturing of any successful vaccine candidates. They also purchased allotments of the vaccines prior to knowing whether any of the OWS-funded companies would be successful.

Since putting a large number of resources into the manufacturing of millions—if not billions—of doses of a vaccine that is still in the infancy of its development would be a non-starter for any viable pharmaceutical company, the HHS making the decision to substantially de-risk this process in order to expedite the development of candidate vaccines proved to be a game-changer.


December 14th the first US vaccines were injected.

So from March 30, 2020 to December 14, 2020, or 9-months from start of development effort to vaccine shots in arms, a medical miracle, saving hundreds of thousands of US lives. You're welcome.

p.s. Xiden didn't do anything, he'll just watch the infections drop as the vaccines are rolled out. You're welcome.
 
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Evan McMullen.. He's smart and decent, educated and well qualified.
He ran already, and couldn't even carry his home state.
He was Bill Krystol's collateral sacrificial lamb to Trump in 2016.
He won't even make it on the stage. Who wants a CIA spook as president?

He didn't enter the race until the last minute. Have you heard him speak? He's much more than a CIA officer.
Its a free country, he can run if he wants. We'll count the votes and see who we put up against Kamala.
 
I don't believe we'll see the 2024 prime candidate until the 2022 mid-terms are over. After that expect a ruthless candidate with the stones to do unto Democrats what Democrats are doing unto you.

No reservations.

That candidate might be male, female, Christian, Muslim, Black, White,Brown or Polka-dotted. Probably not transgendered because indecision is not what's needed.

Must have no qualms about doing whatever it takes.

None.
 
I don't believe we'll see the 2024 prime candidate until the 2022 mid-terms are over. After that expect a ruthless candidate with the stones to do unto Democrats what Democrats are doing unto you. No reservations.

That candidate might be male, female, Christian, Muslim, Black, White,Brown or Polka-dotted. Probably not transgendered because indecision is not what's needed. Must have no qualms about doing whatever it takes.
None.
OK, lets look thru the candidates again, for the most ruthless with "brass-balls". Your "tough as nails" candidate is:
Mike Pence,
Mike Pompeo,
Ted Cruz, Senator,
Nikki Haley,
Dan Crenshaw, THE WINNER IS!! The Fearless Navy Seal.
Tom Cotton,
Josh Hawley,
Ron Desantis,
Jim Jordan, THE RUNNER-UP IS!! The Fearless National Champ Wrestler.
 
Its funny watching democrats pick a GOP candidate for president.
My list is much different. Trump is over, in 4-years he will be way over.
That said, if its Trump or Kamala, I'd proudly vote for Trump.

My primary preferences to take Kamala on are:
Mike Pence
Mike Pompeo
Ted Cruz
Nikki Haley
My wish list candidate is Elon Musk.

On my RINO never list is Kasich, Romney, Ryan, and every never-Trumper

Kamala won't be running for President until 2028. Joe Biden will be the Democratic nominee for 2024. For Kamala to be running in 2024, she would have to announce her campaign just two years from now in January 2023. Highly unlikely.

I could never support the Republicans you list because of their support for Trump:

Mike Pence
Mike Pompeo
Ted Cruz
Nikki Haley
My wish list candidate is Elon Musk.

I also think the only way Trump is done is if the Senate is able to convict him and then disqualify him from holding public office again. Otherwise, Trump will run again, because the support base is simply too large for him to not run. The only one that could challenge him for the nomination would be a Never Trumper like Kasich, and right now with this poll, Kasich is getting crushed.
1. We disagree about Joe Biden. IMHO its 50/50 he makes it to 2024 without getting the 25th boot from Nancy. He is barely coherent now and he's on the job a week.

2. If Joe is too old in 2024 Kamala would be up next for the dems. You can say run Joe again, but I can't picture Joe in 4-years being functional.

3. Democrats with TDS can make up all kinds of Trump related excuses, but we all know democrats vote for democrats unless there is a good reason to vote for a Republican, like in 2016 a lot of union workers liked Trump over Hillary. How many of the laid off Keystone pipeline workers will vote democrat in 2022 and 2024? None.

4. Trump could try to run in 2024, but IMHO he won't get the nomination. If he would win the nomination I'd vote for him over Kamala (or Joe).

5. You are very wrong about a Never-Trumper ever getting nominated again, they are all done, as your poll shows. I didn't even vote in that poll. Establishment Republicans are "conservative globalists" and we want "America First Populists". IMHO by 2024 the voters will have had more than enough of the democrat's policies.

1. Joe Biden has done more work as President-Elect for the past two months as well as speaking to the American People, than Donald Trump did for four years as President. Joe Biden is just fine and Nancy Pelosi who is 3 years older than Joe Biden is going to do everything she can to support Joe Biden.

2. Senator Diane Feinstein turns 88 this summer as does Representative Don Young. Both are ten years older than Biden. There are 7 serving U.S. Senators and 17 serving U.S. Representatives older than Biden, so this idea that he is too old is just ageism.

3. Keystone Pipeline workers won't be the deciding factor in the elections of 2022 or 2024.

4. The only one that could take away the nomination from Trump is a never Trumper and it does not appear the party has switched away from Trump to that degree. No one on the pro Trump side of the party is going to run against Trump if he runs in 2024. None of them have Trump's base of support which is much larger than it was in 2016.

5. The Democrats will prove more united in 2024 than the Republicans will be.
1. Joe Xiden is losing it, he signed a few EOs, meh. He really pissed off Canada. All he can actually do is read from the teleprompter and listen to the guy in his earpiece. Joe killed more jobs in a week, and lost more voters than he "won" the election by. Wait until energy prices start to skyrocket. People will miss Trump's "good old days".

2. Look at Xiden, listen to Xiden, he's a few days into his term and has zero command of facts. He can't do a real press conference, only ones where he can read the teleprompter. I'm just waiting for Nancy to 25th his pruny ass.

3. Keystone pipeline workers and the entire energy sector, as well as energy consumers, and counting, will be the deciding factor. As Xiden rolls out the democrat's agenda, more voters regret their votes for him.

4. You have no clue when you expound about Republicans. Never-Trumpers are pyrrhias, ugly lepers who might as well become democrats. Any "Never-Trumper" who runs in any primary will get single digit votes, just friends and family. True, Trump still has a significant following, but we realize that to win a national election you can't alienate women and minorities. As General Kelly said, "Trump is a very flawed man". But Trump started the populist GOP and is gaining "America First" democrats every time Xiden loses US jobs.

Look for many of these to enter the 2024 primary to take on Kamala.
Mike Pence, Trump's VP, competent, paid his dues
Mike Pompeo, 1st in his class at West Point, Secretary of State
Ted Cruz, Senator, runner-up to Trump in 2016, super smart
Nikki Haley, ex-governor, should get women vote
Dan Crenshaw, ex-Navy Seal, Lt. Commander.
Tom Cotton, ex-Army Captain, combat vet.
Josh Hawley, Senator, very smart high-end lawyer from Yale.
Ron Desantis, FL governor, doing a great job
Jim Jordan, OH congressman, fearless, tough as nails

VPs: Tim Scott if its Nikki Haley, and Kristi Noem if its a guy.

1. Joe Biden has already fielded more questions from reporters, as President Elect and now President, than Trump did during his entire term. After he lays out proposals and plans, he takes questions from the media. The idea that he is unfit for office because of his mental state is a myth.

2. Again, he has already spent more time answering questions from the media than Trump did during his entire 4 years in office. Trump did not know anything about being President or any elected office for that matter before he started as President. After four years, its clear by Trump's behavior that he did not learn anything either. Biden is going to be fine. As for Trump, he has all kinds of legal issues to deal with now in addition to a Senate Trial.

3. There are plenty of parts of the Energy Sector that would actually benefit from there not being a Keystone Pipeline.

4. Most Republicans and Democrats to a certain degree are zombies simply following whatever their political party chooses in terms of leaders and policies. That is the only way one can explain a party nominating and supporting George W. Bush who is the opposite of Donald J. Trump when it comes to beliefs and policies they support.

5. Never Trumpers will eventually retake the Republican party because they are simply closer to the political center of the country and which makes them more competitive in national elections. The Republican Party wants to win and will eventually return to candidates that are most competitive at the national level. Trumpism, although popular for a while, is a declining movement. Trump failed to win the popular vote in 2016 and in 2020. Trump only averaged 41% approval over his entire time, which is the worst average approval rating for any President in history according to the GALLUP POLL.
1. Trump had real pressers nearly every day, he holds the record, so stop lying. Trump fielded all questions from a very hostile press. Even with a sycophant press Xiden refuses to do a real press conference. We know Joe is unfit even if you don't admit it.

2. Joe hid in his basement during the campaign, and now never does a real press conference. As Xiden rolls-out the democrat agenda, he pissed off Canada and is costing US energy jobs. Voters will make a course correction in the 2022 and 2024 mid-terms.

3. I see words with no link. Prove the US energy sector is better w/o the Keystone pipeline. That's a lie.

4. Voters have complex algorithms for deciding who to vote for, and those votes need to be protected from voter fraud. Many voters vote "policies" rather than personalities. Xiden's open borders is not playing well.

5. Never-Trump globalists are closer to the middle of the country than Trump's America First populism? WTF are you smokin? Agreed that Trump had unnecessarily high negatives. The 1st debate showed that he still does not understand politics. If Trump had a softer persona he would have won in a landslide. My wife calls him an ill mannered bully who was apparently raised by wolves. She prefers presidents to be presidential.
This thread is depressing and makes me ill. LOL

Its hypothetical base on Trump still being legally able to run in 2024. It appears he has retained much of his base of support, which would prevent any like minded individuals from running if Trump decides to run. The only question is could a never Trumper challenge him for the nomination, and right now Kasich, the most likely never Trumper to challenge Trump in 2024 is losing by a landslide.

Did you miss the fact that he addressed the Democrat National Convention? He is a Democrat!

Republicans that care about the country more than their political party voted for BIDEN in the 2020 election. John Kasich is an American FIRST, being a member of the Republican Party is further down the list. The fact that he was willing to address the Democratic National Convention in order to help defeat Trump who was treasonous foreign agent for Putin while President, is why every Republican should support Kasich in 2024!
Not many RINOs voted for Biden over Trump.
If Kasich did, that just shows how stupid he is. I don't see Biden rewarding Kasich with a cabinet post?!
Your slimy smear of Trump as anything other than a great American president is just partisan TDS. The democrat coxuckers also called Tulsi Gabbard a Putin stooge. She is a veteran, more loyal to the US than any of the socialists.
Kasich is done as a Republican, trust me. Beating Kamala should be easy, if we can keep the democrat cheating to a minimum.

Well, certainly none of them voted for Trump. Trump lost the White House, the Senate, and the House of Representatives over his four years as President. Trump has the lowest average approval rating as President, 41% in the GALLUP, of any President in U.S. history. The United States is lucky to be rid of Trump and the influence of his supporters in congress. After nearly half a million dead from covid-19, the United States can finally get a on a path to defeating Covid-19 and saving lives. Trump did virtually nothing to fight Covid-19 while he was in office which explains the following:

It should be noted that while Israel infection rate is high, they have already vaccinated 40% of their population compared to the United States which has only vaccinated 5% of its population. The United States has to start over on its strategy to vaccinate the population because Trump never really had a plan. Explains why Israel is at 40% while the United States is only at 5%.
1. Polls are garbage, just ask Hillary and her 95% probability of winning, as well as the 2020 "blue wave".
Trump lost primarily due to voter fraud, the GOP gained House seats and didn't lose any, and the senate was lost by GOP stupidity running Doug Collins against fellow Republican Kelly Loeffler, not any anti-Trump vote.

2. If Trump did nothing to fight covid-19, why do we have (5) covid-19 vaccines in 8-months? That is a medical miracle. It normally takes years to develop vaccines. You're welcome. Look what the vaccines are doing to the infection rate, no thanks to Biden and the democrats,
View attachment 448446

11 months, and what exactly did Trump do to develop the vaccines. Remember this classic from Trump about what to do about Covid-19:

Sarah Cooper Impersonating Trump Compilation (lip sync parody) - YouTube

Getting ultraviolet light into the body or injecting bleach? No wonder the United States is in the top 10 for the worst per capita infections and deaths from covid-19.

430,000 Americans are dead now from covid-19! In TAIWAN, only 7 have died from covid-19!
Read the articles below, especially the paragraph where Dr. Fauci said that it will take between 12 and 18 months to get vaccines produced, and even that would be a medical miracle.

Trump administration outlines audacious plan to deliver ‘hundreds of millions’ of Covid-19 vaccine doses by end of 2020
"The rollout highlights an overt shift in the White House’s messaging on vaccines. Anthony Fauci, the federal government’s top infectious disease researcher, has long warned Americans that, even optimistically, developing a Covid-19 vaccine would take between 12 and 18 months. Even that timeline, Fauci has said, would represent something of a biomedical miracle."

...through a series of announcements beginning on March 30th, the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services (HHS) started a program they coined “Operation Warp Speed,” (OWS) in an attempt to expedite a COVID-19 vaccine.

The crucial piece of OWS, beyond allocating hefty funds for vaccine research and development, was that it fundamentally changed how pharmaceutical and biotechnology companies assess the risk of conducting large-scale clinical trials on a brand-new vaccine. This was achieved through the HHS building the requisite infrastructure and guaranteeing the manufacturing of any successful vaccine candidates. They also purchased allotments of the vaccines prior to knowing whether any of the OWS-funded companies would be successful.

Since putting a large number of resources into the manufacturing of millions—if not billions—of doses of a vaccine that is still in the infancy of its development would be a non-starter for any viable pharmaceutical company, the HHS making the decision to substantially de-risk this process in order to expedite the development of candidate vaccines proved to be a game-changer.


December 14th the first US vaccines were injected.

So from March 30, 2020 to December 14, 2020, or 9-months from start of development effort to vaccine shots in arms, a medical miracle, saving hundreds of thousands of US lives. You're welcome.

p.s. Xiden didn't do anything, he'll just watch the infections drop as the vaccines are rolled out. You're welcome.


In the meantime, 430,000 dead from covid-19 and counting. In TAIWAN, only 7 dead, and none since last May.

Biden was not President or in congress at the time. Biden is now fixing all the problems created by the Trump administration.

The Trump administration never invoked the Defense Production act to mass produce N-95 masks. If everyone in the country used N-95 masks every day, you could end the pandemic in the United States in four weeks. Unfortunately, the United States is still struggling to provide PPE for healthcare workers a year later.
 
I don't believe we'll see the 2024 prime candidate until the 2022 mid-terms are over. After that expect a ruthless candidate with the stones to do unto Democrats what Democrats are doing unto you. No reservations.

That candidate might be male, female, Christian, Muslim, Black, White,Brown or Polka-dotted. Probably not transgendered because indecision is not what's needed. Must have no qualms about doing whatever it takes.
None.
OK, lets look thru the candidates again, for the most ruthless with "brass-balls". Your "tough as nails" candidate is:
Mike Pence,
Mike Pompeo,
Ted Cruz, Senator,
Nikki Haley,
Dan Crenshaw, THE WINNER IS!! The Fearless Navy Seal.
Tom Cotton,
Josh Hawley,
Ron Desantis,
Jim Jordan, THE RUNNER-UP IS!! The Fearless National Champ Wrestler.

Not even close.
 

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