who will christians discriminate against once gays have equal rights?

[koshergrl]

and gay parents take their kids to gay parades.

Yes, it's a problem.

How is that a problem? How many gay pride parades have you been to and seen?

Shut the hell up with your irrelevant crap, why on earth does anyone even give you the time of day?

 

[Dr.Drock]

Again... if the parents bring their children to a sexual orientated parade.... its 100% on them.

LOL... you know and i know...unless you have a cop with a bee up his ass that law is not enforced in NO...especially in the quarter. Showing your dangley bits and pieces is all part of the show.

Nooooooooo, we used to sit out in front of the restaurant on breaks, and watched hundreds of people loaded into paddy wagons on their way to jail after flashing, groping, etc. I've watched the cops storm buildings to get to the balconies where girls were flashing for beads. Low and behold, they are dragged out in cuffs.

Ya' see, Syrenn, they enforce the law the best they can for two reasons. One being, flashing can whip a drunken crowd into a frenzy, creating all out chaos. Never a good thing in the tight confines of the Quarter.......Secondly, the fines are stiff, and the city can use those fines to offset the cost of the chaos. So yes, they do their best to enforce the laws. I've witnessed it firsthand.

And that is a good thing? That is a modern thing proposed by and passed by government as a bone to the religous right.
For over a hundred years they allowed it as that was the norm. I attended Mardi Gras from 1971 on, numerous Sugar Bowl games during that span and NO police were arresting any women for flashing for beads. Didn't happen until the moral police invaded.
Even the police will tell you they do not like doing that. That deters from their MAIN MISSION: FIGHTING CRIME.
Pick pockets, thieves of all kinds, drug sales are all now on the back burner so you and your moral police can arrest women for showing their breasts at 1 am in the morning.
What a damn joke. Ben Franklin was known to visit the whore houses of every town and country he visited. Not agreeing with it but it is fact.
The Founders are rolling in their graves with you moral police.
And it hurt NO ONE.
As a strict conservative I state GET GOVERNMENT OUT OF THE LIVES OF OTHERS.
Offended? Well lah de dah. Grow some stones and quit being a bitch and moaner.
Only a damn fool objects to things that hurt NO ONE.

Maybe the best post I've ever read on this board.


I'm not sure how someone can cheer government for arresting girls for pulling their shirts up AND call themselves a small government conservative.

 

[bodecea]

I have... Social Services would probably take a Kid from a Home that was being Exposed to that outside of a "Gay Pride Parade"...

Go ahead and say that you don't Think Children should be at Gay Pride Parades...

Your Dance is Concerning...



peace...

I will say it slowly mel

if
the
parents
chose
to
take
THEIR
children
to
the
gay
parade
it
is
100%
on
the
parents.


the problem is not the parade.

Except the parents who do that are typically parade participants.

So we're back to square one.

I still don't get the purpose of a sex parade. But to each his own. If the city allows it, that's their problem.

Wait...you're saying that those thousands of people watching the parade include almost no parents with children? It's participants only? Seriously?

How many parades have you been to to make such an....interesting....observation? How much of the parade is a "sex parade"? Would that include the church groups marching? The Politicians? The Red Cross? The Businesses?

 

[mal]

And where do i say it is an appropriate event for children?

I said...it is a sexually oriented parade. It is a GAY event.

If children are there..... its 100% on the parents. Their choice.. their children....their decision on what is and is not acceptable for THEIR children to see and experiance. Give THAT some thought.

I have... Social Services would probably take a Kid from a Home that was being Exposed to that outside of a "Gay Pride Parade"...

Go ahead and say that you don't Think Children should be at Gay Pride Parades...

Your Dance is Concerning...



peace...

I will say it slowly mal

if
the
parents
chose
to
take
THEIR
children
to
the
gay
parade
it
is
100%
on
the
parents.


the problem is not the parade.

Can't you have a Personal Opinion on it?...

Why the Evasion?...

Should Children be at what you Described a Gay Pride to be?...



peace...

 

[syrenn]

I have... Social Services would probably take a Kid from a Home that was being Exposed to that outside of a "Gay Pride Parade"...

Go ahead and say that you don't Think Children should be at Gay Pride Parades...

Your Dance is Concerning...



peace...

I will say it slowly mal

if
the
parents
chose
to
take
THEIR
children
to
the
gay
parade
it
is
100%
on
the
parents.


the problem is not the parade.

Can't you have a Personal Opinion on it?...

Why the Evasion?...

Should Children be at what you Described a Gay Pride to be?...



peace...

I don't make decisions like that for other peoples children. Again.... it is their children to decide if they take them. If the parent does not approve of such...don't take them. Rather simple.


"Children" is relative term. A good deal of adults cant handle it either.

 

[Failzero]

NAMBLA wants to march in the Parades (Freely & without fear)

 

[Gadawg73]

NAMBLA wants to march in the Parades (Freely & without fear)

If you want to march as a NAMBLA member then have at it.
But beware of baseball bat to the head.

 

[koshergrl]

I will say it slowly mel

if
the
parents
chose
to
take
THEIR
children
to
the
gay
parade
it
is
100%
on
the
parents.


the problem is not the parade.

Except the parents who do that are typically parade participants.

So we're back to square one.

I still don't get the purpose of a sex parade. But to each his own. If the city allows it, that's their problem.

Wait...you're saying that those thousands of people watching the parade include almost no parents with children? It's participants only? Seriously?

How many parades have you been to to make such an....interesting....observation? How much of the parade is a "sex parade"? Would that include the church groups marching? The Politicians? The Red Cross? The Businesses?

It's gay pride day.

Isn't "gay" the word used to define a person's sexual proclivities?

Hence...sex parade. They're proud of the sort of sex they have.

Why are you obsessed with who has gone to what parades? Are you saying a person must be physically present before having an opinion on any activity or issue? That's hogwash. Please stop parroting that silliness over and over as if it matters, because it doesn't..it just makes you sound like a fool. And while I've no doubt you are a fool, and probably proud of it, it would just be better for everyone else if you stopped afflicting everybody else with your idiocy. Do us a favor, please.

 

[mal]

I will say it slowly mal

if
the
parents
chose
to
take
THEIR
children
to
the
gay
parade
it
is
100%
on
the
parents.


the problem is not the parade.

Can't you have a Personal Opinion on it?...

Why the Evasion?...

Should Children be at what you Described a Gay Pride to be?...



peace...

I don't make decisions like that for other peoples children. Again.... it is their children to decide if they take them. If the parent does not approve of such...don't take them. Rather simple.


"Children" is relative term. A good deal of adults cant handle it either.

Why the Evasions?...

How about this prepubecent boy dressed in Drag at one of Seattles "Mainstream" Gay Pride Parades...

That too young?...

IN YOUR OPINION.



peace...

 

[Gadawg73]

Except the parents who do that are typically parade participants.

So we're back to square one.

I still don't get the purpose of a sex parade. But to each his own. If the city allows it, that's their problem.

Wait...you're saying that those thousands of people watching the parade include almost no parents with children? It's participants only? Seriously?

How many parades have you been to to make such an....interesting....observation? How much of the parade is a "sex parade"? Would that include the church groups marching? The Politicians? The Red Cross? The Businesses?

It's gay pride day.

Isn't "gay" the word used to define a person's sexual proclivities?

Hence...sex parade. They're proud of the sort of sex they have.

Why are you obsessed with who has gone to what parades? Are you saying a person must be physically present before having an opinion on any activity or issue? That's hogwash. Please stop parroting that silliness over and over as if it matters, because it doesn't..it just makes you sound like a fool. And while I've no doubt you are a fool, and probably proud of it, it would just be better for everyone else if you stopped afflicting everybody else with your idiocy. Do us a favor, please.

You are the one obsessed with anything and everything gay.
And you are the one making it about sex only.
You used to be my kinda girl!

 

[syrenn]

Can't you have a Personal Opinion on it?...

Why the Evasion?...

Should Children be at what you Described a Gay Pride to be?...



peace...

I don't make decisions like that for other peoples children. Again.... it is their children to decide if they take them. If the parent does not approve of such...don't take them. Rather simple.


"Children" is relative term. A good deal of adults cant handle it either.

Why the Evasions?...

How about this prepubecent boy dressed in Drag at one of Seattles "Mainstream" Gay Pride Parades...

That too young?...

IN YOUR OPINION.



peace...

Ask HIS parents. That is MY opinion.

and how do you know its a boy?

 

[mal]

NAMBLA wants to march in the Parades (Freely & without fear)

If you want to march as a NAMBLA member then have at it.
But beware of baseball bat to the head.

It wasn't that long ago that NAMBLA was Directely Associated with a Leading Gay/Lesbian Group...

In Fact, it was in 1994 that those Ties were Severed because the ILGA got caught with the Boy Bottom Touchers and were kicked out of the World Conference on Disease and Population.

Prior 1994 NAMBLA was a Regular at Gay Pride Parades around the Country.

True Story.

The Homosexual Leadership at the Time realized that with Mass Media, their Agenda would be Destroyed by their Decades long Association with the Boy Bottom Touchers.

Also a True Story.

Their Sympathies are still there, and there are a Concerning number in Academia that are Sympathetic to Pedophilia and have Written about it.

I'll post one such Article that slipped through the Cracks... So to Speak.



peace...

 

[mal]

University of Minnesota Press book challenges anxiety about pedophilia

Mark O'Keefe Newhouse News Service
Published Mar 26, 2002

Source: StarTribune.com: News, weather, sports from Minneapolis, St. Paul and Minnesota
They have LONG ago Purged this...
Sex between adults and children has been a societal taboo so strong that it's considered one of our few unquestioned moral principles. But arguments have emerged in academic journals, books and online that at least some such sex should be acceptable, especially when children consent to it.

Those making the case aren't just fringe groups, such as the North American Man-Boy Love Association, but a handful of academics at mainstream universities.

Members of this school of thought stress that they don't condone coercing children into sex, and that they are not pro-pedophilia, as the term is commonly understood. But several contend that minors are capable of agreeing to and even initiating sex with adults.

These academics seek to change the language, moving away from "pedophilia," which often evokes a charged negative response, particularly in light of the priest-pedophile cases challenging the Roman Catholic Church. In its place would be more neutral terms such as "intergenerational sex" or "adult-child sex."

With more research, some scholars say, it may be only a matter of time before modern society accepts adult-child sex, just as it has learned to accept premarital sex and homosexual sex.

"Children are the last bastion of the old sexual morality," wrote one of the trailblazers for this view, Harris Mirkin, an associate professor of political science at the University of Missouri-Kansas City.

Social conservatives aware of efforts to legitimize adult-child sex have publicly expressed horror. On his radio show broadcast to hundreds of Christian stations, psychologist and author James Dobson said the intent is to "make boys accessible" to men.

Leading gay rights groups also have denounced the effort.

(The ILGA used to March with NAMBLA... True Story. - mal)

"Pedophilia is something that's abhorrent, should be condemned in the strongest of terms and should have nothing to do with gay civil rights issues," said David Smith, spokesman for the Washington-based Human Rights Campaign. Smith also spoke out against the North American Man-Boy Love Association, which has been trying to link adult-child sex with homosexual rights for 24 years.

The American Psychiatric Association's diagnostic manual removed homosexuality from its list of mental disorders in 1973, but pedophilia remains there. The manual describes pedophiles as having "recurrent, intense, sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 or younger)."

An APA statement separate from the manual says an adult who engages in sexual activity with a child "is performing a criminal and immoral act" that can "never" be considered socially acceptable.

Legal definitions vary from state to state and often are under criminal codes dealing with indecent liberties with a child, sodomy and rape. Pedophilia may not be mentioned by name. Instead, the laws concern sexual contact with a child under a certain age.

The most coordinated opposition to change has come from the Leadership Council for Mental Health, Justice & the Media, an organization of mental health professionals headquartered in Bala Cynwyd, Pa. The group describes its mission as protecting children "through ethical applications of psychological science." Since its inception in 1998, it has focused on debunking what it considers pro-pedophilia studies.

"What the pedophiles are looking for is some group of professionals to champion their cause," said Stephanie Dallam, a Leadership Council researcher. "Then they'll come up with a derogatory term to deride anyone who disagrees with them. Their claim will be to objective science, even though their science is sloppy and terrible."

As an example, Dallam cites an organization calling itself IPCE, a forum that discusses academic arguments for adult-child sex.

The group formed as the International Pedophile and Child Emancipation group, then shortened its name to the acronym alone, according to a newsletter posted on its Web site. The site contains an extensive library of academic papers and provides links to other pro-pedophilia Web sites, including one at which people converse -- sometimes posting pictures -- about sexual interactions with children.

In an article to be published in the spring issue of The Journal of Child Sexual Abuse, Dallam writes that a major strategy in normalizing pedophilia is to limit the term "child sexual abuse" to cases in which actual harm to children is demonstrated, not just assumed.

Mirkin, whose academic specialty is the politics of sex, wrote in a 1999 article published in The Journal of Homosexuality that society perceives youths as seduced, abused victims and not "partners or initiators or willing participants" in sex with adults, "even if they are hustlers."

In an interview, Mirkin said the outrage surrounding the Roman Catholic Church's pedophilia scandal illustrates how the public views acts of intergenerational contact as "one big blur" of child abuse when it's likely "very, very mild stuff."

"We say if someone touches or molests or diddles or whatever a kid it will ruin the rest of their life. I don't believe it. I think kids are more likely to laugh at it more than anything else -- unless the whole culture says this is the most horrible thing that can happen to you."

Mirkin is not alone in questioning whether children are harmed by sexual contact with adults. The March 2002 American Psychologist devotes its entire issue to the ongoing fallout of a journal article that did just that.

The piece, in the July 1998 issue of Psychological Bulletin, was written by Bruce Rind, then an assistant professor of psychology at Temple University; Robert Bauserman, a lecturer then with the department of psychology at the University of Michigan; and Philip Tromovitch, then pursuing a doctorate at the University of Pennsylvania.

(Did you catch those credentials? - mal)
The trio reviewed 59 studies of college students who, as children, had sexual interaction with significantly older people or were coerced into sexual activity with someone of their own age. They concluded that negative effects "were neither pervasive nor typically intense, and that men reacted much less negatively than women." It recommended that a child's "willing encounter with positive reactions" be called "adult-child sex" instead of "abuse."

(Temple University, University of Michigan and University of Pennsylvania. I predicted that the American College system would be the door openers on this subject, just as they were for drugs and homosexuality back in the 60's! - mal)

A soon-to-be-released book, "Harmful to Minors: The Perils of Protecting Children From Sex," is being advertised by its publisher, University of Minnesota Press, as challenging widespread anxieties about pedophilia.

In an interview, the book's author, journalist Judith Levine, praised the Rind study as evidence that "doesn't line up with the ideology that it's always harmful for kids to have sexual relationships with adults."

She said the pedophilia among Roman Catholic priests is complicated to analyze, because it's almost always secret, considered forbidden and involves an authority figure.

She added, however, that, "yes, conceivably, absolutely" a boy's sexual experience with a priest could be positive.

"When I was a minor, I had sex with an adult," she said. "He was one of my first lovers. My heart was broken, but my heart was broken by a lot of boys, too. I'd say on balance that it was a perfectly good experience."

After Dr. Laura Schlessinger denounced the Rind article on her nationally broadcast radio program, the U.S. House of Representatives unanimously passed a resolution rejecting the study.

Many academics came to the study's vigorous defense, citing the need for academic freedom to pursue unpopular topics. But other scholars joined the Leadership Council, Dallam's group, in lambasting the study for what they considered sloppy methodology and a refusal to look at numerous other studies suggesting significant mental, physical and behavioral harm to abused children. Rind, now a part-time instructor at Temple, did not respond to requests for an interview.

The controversy still raged in May 1999, when the American Psychological Association, which published the Rind article, passed a resolution saying that "sexual relations between children and adults are abusive, exploitive, reprehensible and properly punishable by law."

But adult-child sex remains a field of study.

While some, such as Mirkin, have argued that teen-age children can consent to adult sex, there appears to be no clear consensus among these scholars as to when a child should be considered too young.

Gilbert Herdt, director of human sexuality studies at San Francisco State University, said determining an age of consent "is very, very problematic." He stressed that there must be a point where society says it's unacceptable, and illegal, for an adult to have sex with a minor, but he would not say where the line should be.

"It's totally different in my mind to think about consent with an 18-year-old than a 10-year-old," said Herdt, who has written that sexual attraction can begin as early as 8. "So then you say, 'What about a 13-year-old, is that more like a 10-year-old or an 18-year-old?' These are the types of questions that ultimately find their way into legal cases because of the imprecision of these categories."

The academic debate has begun to find its way into more popular culture.

---

The "Free Press" Learned not to talk about these Liberals out in the Open again after 2002...



peace...

 

[koshergrl]

But remember, there IS NO SLIPPERY SLOPE when it comes to eradicating family values and replacing them with debauchery.

 

[ABikerSailor]

But remember, there IS NO SLIPPERY SLOPE when it comes to eradicating family values and replacing them with debauchery.

Yeah.....the GOP is doing a bang up job of that already. We don't need more.

 

[koshergrl]

Gosh that made perfect nonsense.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Tornado hit here in the neighborhood Cherokee county, Georgia Monday afternoon. Trees down everywhere and the elderly couple across the street have extensive damage. The two gay women from up the road were out picking up and one has a chain saw! (even though it is a small one).
It is really sad that we have other citizens that label these folks as "immoral" and the same as dog fuckers.
Something is very wrong with America when we allow others to claim the high ground and use Christianity as their route.
Very unChristlike indeed.

It has nothing to do with Christianity....It has to do with fucking morals....If they want to live their CHOSEN perverted lifestyle, fine. When they start exposing themselves in PUBLIC, in front of lil' kids, and people like YOU accept it, it just shows how far this country is falling.

girls gone wild
spring break
madi gras
Canaval
hell.. the public beach.

They are no worse. Just not gay.

Which is ample proof of the decay of morals in our society. thank you for making my point.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Wake up. The decline in morals is in our own government. Why aren't you more concerned about corruption?

I am, that is why i can't wait for Gods kingdom and government to ridd the world of this moral decline we see.

Oh really? Got something in mind?

Read revelations it sheds light on what is coming.

 

[Youwerecreated]

One day a year and you can't get over it. Poor Wicked.

Has he answered yet about how many gay pride parades he's been to? I'm trying to catch up after a busy day.

I did see his posts about women getting arrested for flashing during Mardi Gras. Maybe in the 50s they did.

Everyone i have seen on T.V. was pretty perverted,not something i think a sane person would want to be associated with.

 

[Failzero]

NAMBLA wants to march in the Parades (Freely & without fear)

If you want to march as a NAMBLA member then have at it.
But beware of baseball bat to the head.

It wasn't that long ago that NAMBLA was Directely Associated with a Leading Gay/Lesbian Group...

In Fact, it was in 1994 that those Ties were Severed because the ILGA got caught with the Boy Bottom Touchers and were kicked out of the World Conference on Disease and Population.

Prior 1994 NAMBLA was a Regular at Gay Pride Parades around the Country.

True Story.

The Homosexual Leadership at the Time realized that with Mass Media, their Agenda would be Destroyed by their Decades long Association with the Boy Bottom Touchers.

Also a True Story.

Their Sympathies are still there, and there are a Concerning number in Academia that are Sympathetic to Pedophilia and have Written about it.

I'll post one such Article that slipped through the Cracks... So to Speak.



peace...

Ditto this ,b4uact &ACLU & GLAADD & other far left Gay Rights groups want special Rghts & Protections & understanding for the "Alternative Lifestyle " of the Pro Masculine Minor attracted people ...