Who wants to defend the Federal Income Tax?

[Robert W]

Let's be honest people. Do you enjoy the Federal Income Tax? Did you approve it? Who approved it? Is it legal? Have Courts defended it? We must tax. But how? Why income? What else can be taxed? The founders imposed Tariffs to fund the Nation. But they did not create the Federal Income Tax as you all must know.
How about a short video explaining this to all readers?

Before you get angry or disturbed, be honest. Do you enjoy the Federal income Tax you pay? Why not think of alternatives?

 

[Votto]

No one has to defend it as it is imposed on us all.

SCOTUS struck it down as unconstitutional at the turn of the 20th century, so Leftists simply added it to the Constitution.

 

[there4eyeM]

Wages for labor is a special category of economic exchange and deserves a proper approach. My idea is that the purchase of the labor, what is paid by the employer, be taxed as most usual purchases are. The payee (labor) receives a full, final amount and all is simple and clear. As wages were used to purchase, taxes would be paid. Every step is transparent and uncomplicated. No yearly stress with income taxes; just property and such.
It is logical. Companies don't pay tax on extracted supplies, they pay taxes based upon purchase of goods and services as well as profits on sales of the produced goods. Wages are what are necessary to "extract" for most people in order to confront the 'day-to-day'.

 

[TNHarley]

Who wants to defend the Federal Income Tax?​

Certainly not me

 

[Hector12]

A steeply graduated income tax with no loop holes is the best way to make sure that idle rich pay the vast majority of taxes.

 

[Oddball]

Let's be honest people. Do you enjoy the Federal Income Tax? Did you approve it? Who approved it? Is it legal? Have Courts defended it? We must tax. But how? Why income? What else can be taxed? The founders imposed Tariffs to fund the Nation. But they did not create the Federal Income Tax as you all must know.
How about a short video explaining this to all readers?

Before you get angry or disturbed, be honest. Do you enjoy the Federal income Tax you pay? Why not think of alternatives?

Joe Banister is a superstar.

 

[Oddball]

 

[rightwinger]

Me…ME!

The Federal Income Tax is the best way to raise $4 trillion a year in revenue

We have nothing to replace it

 

[rightwinger]

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Taxes enable us to live in a Civilized Society

Roads, Infrastructure, Sewage systems, clean water, safe food, security, fire protection

 

[Flash]

We need to tremendously reduce the size of the Federal government.

No welfare, grants, bailouts, entitlements, foreign aid, subsidies or any of these worthless alphabet agencies that don't do anything of value but cost billions.

Instead of it costing $7.4 trillion a year with $2 Trillion of it being debt like we are getting with Potatohead it should cost arounf $1.5-2 Trillion a year.

We need to abolish both the Income and Corporate taxes.

 

[rightwinger]

We need to tremendously reduce the size of the Federal government.

No welfare, grants, bailouts, entitlements, foreign aid, subsidies or any of these worthless alphabet agencies that don't do anything of value but cost billions.

Instead of it costing $7.4 trillion a year with $2 Trillion of it being debt like we are getting with Potatohead it should cost arounf $1.5-2 Trillion a year.

We need to abolish both the Income and Corporate taxes.

We the People select the size of the Government we need to provide the services we demand
That Government will be either local, state or federal depending on the service being provided

 

[Oddball]

Wages for labor is a special category of economic exchange and deserves a proper approach. My idea is that the purchase of the labor, what is paid by the employer, be taxed as most usual purchases are. The payee (labor) receives a full, final amount and all is simple and clear. As wages were used to purchase, taxes would be paid. Every step is transparent and uncomplicated. No yearly stress with income taxes; just property and such.
It is logical. Companies don't pay tax on extracted supplies, they pay taxes based upon purchase of goods and services as well as profits on sales of the produced goods. Wages are what are necessary to "extract" for most people in order to confront the 'day-to-day'.

This is the same bullshit argument used to pimp the "employer's share" of FICA....The employee still pays the tax, as a cost to the employer.

 

[Oddball]

Taxes enable us to live in a Civilized Society

Roads, Infrastructure, Sewage systems, clean water, safe food, security, fire protection

 

[Blues Man]

Me…ME!

The Federal Income Tax is the best way to raise $4 trillion a year in revenue

We have nothing to replace it

You assume we have to spend 4 trillion a year

 

[rightwinger]

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Sorry, but your response makes absolutely no sense

 

[rightwinger]

You assume we have to spend 4 trillion a year

Not the question
It is a question of how we raise our revenue

 

[Oddball]

Sorry, but your response makes absolutely no sense

That's because you have the IQ of a fucking turnip.

 

[Blues Man]

We the People select the size of the Government we need to provide the services we demand
That Government will be either local, state or federal depending on the service being provided

No we really didn't.

And we have it ass backwards.

Local government should be where most of your taxes go because that is the point of government service delivery.

The federal government was never intended to micromanage the states as it now does.

 

[rightwinger]

That's because you have the IQ of a fucking turnip.

I am the smartest poster on USMB

 

[Blues Man]

Not the question
It is a question of how we raise our revenue

No it's a question of how much we spend. But you and government have it backwards.

This is how you get people whining that level funding or a smaller increase than expected is cut in funding