Who thinks that the Iranian WMD program was destroyed?

[zaangalewa]

We can agree

It's totally unimportnat for me whether someone agrees with me or not.

that Trump should act less like a carnival barker or a used car salesman always exaggerating about everything.
That said, his administration and his policies are very good for America,

for an USA without any influence in the world after the USA took care that Europe is without any influence in the world.

even though they may not be good for other countries.

Tyrannies are never good for any country in the world - including the own country.

 

[zaangalewa]

kyzr

Now I got it. "Kyzr" not means Kaiser but Czar. You like to see the "imperator Donald Trump" in the followership of the elitarian Russian Czars and not in the German electoral emperorship. This stupidity explains why you try to see in Persia a province and not a great independent culture and nation. For you are all others only slaves or cannon fodder in the world - shithole countries - while you make yourselve to a slave of the US-Czar Donald Trump who is on his own a slave of Czar Putin.

Damn antiquated idea but fits to all the stupid nonsense which is said today. Degeneration and egocentrism par excellence - but without nobility. You try to find catharsis in your own dirt hoops and think dirt is gold.

 

[kyzr]

People think the Manhattan Project was the most intense, the most expensive project of WW2. It was not.
The project that developed the B-29 Super Fortress was.
Point being, Iran can develop a crude Nuke if they want to. American High School kids of today can do that if they have the materials. Not Public School Kids. But normal kids can. It's really not that big of a deal.
The real problem is delivering it. And developing a detonator. Detonators are underrated. Bigly. Even supposing they get the detonator figured out, they need a delivery system.
Here's a pic of Fat Man and Little Boy. Little Boy is on the right, of course. And they had to specially rig a B-29 Super Fortress to carry them. And they prepped the skies over Japan to the point that the Japanese weren't even sending up fighters to challenge incoming B-29s anymore.
I don't know how the goat fuckers would deliver a system, a bomb, even if they could stop molesting their Young Boys long enough to figure it out. And miniaturizing a Nuke at this point for the Boy Rapers is beyond their reach in a big way

There was a movie about a HS kid who made a nuke, called "The Manhattan Project"

The Manhattan Project (1986) ⭐ 6.1 | Sci-Fi, Thriller

1h 57m | PG-13

www.imdb.com

Iran was working on making a nuke for 30 or so years. Pakistan built on in record time thanks to AQ Khan.

When Pakistani AQ Khan network helped Iran's atomic programme and possibly helped its quest for a nuclear weapon

The AQ Khan network helped Iranian nuclear programme by helping the Islamic Republic build capabilities that could possibly be used for nuclear weapons.

www.wionews.com

You need to think about delivery systems more like "The Sum of All Fears" or "The Peacemaker", not ICBMs.

Trump needs to double down on Iran if they start working on a bomb, getting more severe each time.

 

[kyzr]

It's totally unimportant for me whether someone agrees with me or not.

True, but the point of this forum is to debate. You can keep being wrong if it makes you happy.

for a USA without any influence in the world after the USA took care that Europe is without any influence in the world.

Influence = money. If you want influence hand out money.

Tyrannies are never good for any country in the world - including the own country.

So who lives under a tyrant? Russia, Venezuela, Iran, North Korea, etc.

 

[zaangalewa]

True, but the point of this forum is to debate. ...

"Free opinion" ... one moment ... is this the constitutional US-Russian right from 1779 (made in the 1980ies in Moscow) to have the right to agree with the opinion of the KGB and Donald Trump?

You are an enemy of all mankind - specially of the USA, kyzr - and you know this, isn't it?

 

[zaangalewa]

Influence = money.

What a nonsense. Nothing becomes true only because someone has money. Problems which are able to be solved with money are easy problems.

 

[kyzr]

Now I got it. "Kyzr" not means Kaiser but Czar. You like to see the "imperator Donald Trump" in the following of the egalitarian Russian Czars and not in the German electoral emperors. This stupidity explains why you try to see in Persia a province and not a great independent culture and nation.

1. My name is the shortened version of Keyser Söze who is a character in the movie "The Usual Suspects"
2. I don't see Persia, I see the Islamic Republic of Iran, a "theocratic republic" ruled by a Muslim cleric dedicated to the destruction of Israel, including the funding of terrorist organizations. Iran is not a great independent culture and nation. Iran is the head of the snake that needs to be opposed by civilized societies.

Supreme Leader of Iran - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

For you are all others only slaves or cannon fodder in the world - shithole countries - while you make yourself a slave of the US-Czar Donald Trump who is on his own a slave of Czar Putin.

Stop whining about Trump. He is working to end the war in Ukraine.
As for shithole countries, Somalia is a good example.

Damn antiquated idea but fits to all the stupid nonsense which is said today. Degeneration and ego-centrism par excellence - but without nobility. You try to find catharsis in your own dirt hoops and think dirt is gold.

This is where we have different world views. Trump is not a czar, he is the president of the US subject to the Constitution.
Congress is about to pass a "Reconciliation Bill" which sets the funding priorities for the US for the coming year. The US supreme court just set Trump's Executive Orders above the judges who try to stop them, giving Trump much more power. "Nobility" can be seen when a billionaire steps into the political arena populated by morons and criminals, gets shot because the criminals know Trump would take power from them, and does a great job fixing the country without compensation.

 

[zaangalewa]

People think the Manhattan Project was the most intense, the most expensive project of WW2.

It was not.

The project that developed the B-29 Super Fortress was.

Point being, Iran can develop a crude Nuke if they want to. American High School kids of today can do that if they have the materials. Not Public School Kids. But normal kids can.

It's really not that big of a deal.

The real problem is delivering it. And developing a detonator. Detonators are underrated. Bigly. Even supposing they get the detonator figured out, they need a delivery system.

Here's a pic of Fat Man and Little Boy. Little Boy is on the right, of course. And they had to specially rig a B-29 Super Fortress to carry them. And they prepped the skie sover Japan to the point that the Japanese weren't even sending up fighters to challenge incoming B-29s anymore.

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I don't know how the goat fuckers would deliver a system, a bomb, even if they could stop molesting their Young Boys long enough to figure it out.

And miniaturizing a Nuke at this point for the Boy Rapers is beyond their reach in a big way

Why was 9/11 a shock for you?

 

[Edgetho]

Why was 9/11 a shock for you?

Did your methadone shot wear off already?

Go away

 

[zaangalewa]

Did your methadone shot wear off already?

Go away

I fear US-Americans in average are really not able to think. If you have no violent solution you use a violent speech. But you do not think. Strange. It is millions of times better to speak 20 years without a good result instead to make bullshit or to suffer bullshit. If the result after 20 years still is not good - why not to speak another 20 years? And if this also not helps again so another 20 years and again and again and again ... one day someone will find a good solution.

 

[Edgetho]

I fear US-Americans in average are really not able to think. If you have no violent solution you use a violent speech. But you do not think. Strange.

Violence works --

 

[zaangalewa]

1. My name is the shortened version of Keyser Söze who is a character in the movie "The Usual Suspects"...

One moment. I don't know this film but I read now the fictional figure Keyser Söze is basing on John List. So how sick are you? Who uses an avatar name which refers to a mass murderer? What's wrong with you?

 

[zaangalewa]

Violence works --

No. Violence destroys. Others have to work then. You can beat anyone into a hospital and then make fun of them for being sick and then blow up the hospital.

 

[Edgetho]

No. Violence destroys. Others have to work then. You can beat anyone into a hospital and then make fun of them for being sick and then blow up the hospital.

Who sez?

 

[kyzr]

One moment. I don't know this film but I read now the fictional figure Keyser Söze is basing on John List. So how sick are you? Who uses an avatar name which refers to a mass murderer? What's wrong with you?

Watch the movie before whining.

Keyser Söze - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[krichton]

The bombs didn’t target the entrances, the Air Force flew them right down the ventilation shafts in sequence. Three bombs down each one with a leading bomb destroying the concrete “coolie hat” the Iranians placed to protect the shaft.

But if the bombs can only penetrate up to 200 feet of rock, how can they destroy a facility 300 feet down? Even a direct hit with zero obstruction would not destroy Iran's Fordow because of the special concrete they are supposedly using.

 

[The Duke]

The theory is that Fordow is hardened and reinforced with UHPC concrete, on top of being 300 feet below surface. The MOP massive ordinance penetrator is only capable of 200 feet of penetration through rock. The concrete itself is specially made in a way to be impenetrable by conventional weapons.

The theory is that they dropped them down straight ventilation shafts.

 

[The Duke]

Just use your own trusted sources for the number of illegal aliens in the US in 2021 and then in 2025 and see what the difference is.
It didn't go up by 12 million.

That's not the topic of this thread, furriner.

 

[The Duke]

I've doe that multiple times, and each time you call the sources "fake news"

That's why I said use your trusted sources for the numbers.

Actually i've done it several times.
And each time you attacked the source.

The number of unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. has fluctuated over the years. In 2022, there were an estimated 11.0 million unauthorized immigrants. This number had declined from 11.6 million in 2010, but increased from 10.5 million in 2020. Estimates for 2023 show a further increase to 11.7 million, according to The Center for Migration Studies of New York.

The most recent government estimates suggest there were approximately 10.5 million unauthorized immigrants living in the U.S. in 2024. This number is based on data from various sources including the Department of Homeland Security, the Census Bureau, and the Pew Research Center

"

FAIR Analysis: 4.9 Million Illegal Aliens Have Crossed our Borders Since President Biden Took Office"​

FAIR Analysis: 4.9 Million Illegal Aliens Have Crossed our Borders Since President Biden Took Office | FAIRUS.org

(August 16, 2022, Washington, D.C.) — The Federation for American Immigration Reform issued the following statement, as well as a deeper dive into the growing border crisis, based on data quietly released yesterday by the Biden administration:

www.fairus.org

 

[krichton]

Joe Biden was the "horror clown". Trump is a fantastic president.

So the US taxpayer is supposed to pay to protect the EU from Russia?
As Trump said, if the deadbeat countries don't meet their NATO spending commitments Russia can have them.

How much does the US spend on the military? | USAFacts

Since 1980, defense spending has risen by 62%, climbing from $506 billion to $820 billion by 2023, after adjusting for inflation.

usafacts.org

Defense is 13.3% of the entire budget, way too much.

We're still the same USA, but we now have a great president, not the senile moron that the cheaters put in office in 2020.

You apparently read leftist propaganda about Trump. You need to find better news sources because your "opinions" are wrong.

With other words, Trump is not a criminal, the judge was a criminal, the 34 felony convictions will be overturned by the appeals courts, and then Trump will not be a criminal.

You say Trump is a fantastic president and yet, he supports increasing defense spending and potentially getting us into wars in the middle east. Not to mention his BBB will add trillions to the deficit, as well as destroy jobs. What a great president.

How does Russia taking over Ukraine benefit the US? Why would you want to empower our biggest enemies? Why do you support, rape, torture and death on an ally? Why do you want to look weak in the eyes of the world? Why would you want to spend even more money down the line in order to keep Putin from expanding past Ukraine?