Who thinks that the Iranian WMD program was destroyed?

Was the WMD program destroyed?

  • yes

    Votes: 21 32.8%
  • no

    Votes: 28 43.8%
  • yes/no

    Votes: 13 20.3%
  • Chickens!!!

    Votes: 2 3.1%

  • Total voters
    64
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And the USA makes war in the Iran and supports Putin in the Ukraine.
Those are lies zang. We stopped Iran's nuclear bomb program, and want to stop the war in Ukraine.
And the USA attacks Denmark (=Europe) and Canada and has in general since centuries problems with all other countries in America.
More lies zang. Didn't you see the love fest at the NATO summit?
That's why no one has to speak with the USA, USA-Sparky? Do you not see that the USA is on the strict way slowly and slimy to become an enemy of the whole civilized world? And not only of the civilized world outside of the USA. Why are US-American soldiers "attacking" LA?
You are not making sense. Why do you think the US is an enemy of the world? The world wants to sell us stuff.
US soldiers are not attacking LA, they are protecting buildings in LA from rioters. The US is getting back to normal, criminals in prison not running things.

 
Nope. The first picture is from June 19th, and there is a bulldozer in it as well...

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And here is the 2nd picture [link]. It is from June 20th, and there are two bulldozers.

That's from a few weeks before, when Iran slapped concrete all over the place and the media lied.

That's why I showed it. It shows the timeline from when they knew something was coming. They tried.

But.

Then Israel came in, and did the deed.

And after that...

America bombed it.
 
My money is on Russia or China...


 
Those are lies zang.

No.


You and who else?

stopped Iran's nuclear bomb program,

My last information is: "You" have delayed the development of nuclear weapons in Iran - which the mullahs have been pursuing rather half-heartedly anyway - by about 6 months. I can imagine that it might be interesting for ‘Iran’ - whoever that may be - to negotiate about nuclear weapons in the classical way instead of dealing in newfangled ways and/or even having them for real.

and want to stop the war in Ukraine.

More lies zang. [/Quote]

I'm convinced the high traitor Donald Trump is a slave of Putin. Otherwise his extremely absurd behavior is not explainable.

Didn't you see the love fest at the NATO summit?

I know what they said and this was bullshit. Main theme was to see in Donald Trump an idiot and to speak with this idiot in an adequate way without to destroy the rest fo the relations between the USA and Europe forever.

You are not making sense.

Why should I make sense - why should I make no sense? You should slowly understand that you speak with a totally strange
person. I am not English. Your ways how you try to disqualify other people is strange to me.

Why do you think the US is an enemy of the world?

:lol: Read what I wrote.

The world wants to sell us stuff.

Who forces "you" to buy whatever you buy? No one or no one?

US soldiers are not attacking LA,

This I see in a totally other way. I think Donald Trump ashamed the Marines by giving them the order to attack the USA.

they are protecting buildings in LA from rioters.

A good idea from you to read English fairy tales. But reality seems to be a little different.

The US is getting back to normal, criminals in prison not running things.



If you forgot: Donald Trump the second pardoned ~1500 highly criminal and very violent enemies of the states of the USA whom Donald Trump the first had incited to violently break the foundations of the US political system.
 
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Again, it seems you are not smart enough to follow what was said. six holes twelve bombs, and you can't draw the conclusion. That's your issue.

And I already said, it's likely a moot point because Iran's Fordow is likely bomb proof.
 
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Well he built buildings worked entirely with infrastructure, had to abide by all the regulations, used the visa system as much as anyone. as for ISIS well he's bee discussing them for 3 decades. there still isn't anywhere in there where he says he knows more about everything.

No one is claiming that Trump said he knows "everything." LOL. Is that something you need to hear first before you consider someone foolish enough to continually make statements as president, where he claims he's an expert on anything he can think up at the moment? :auiqs.jpg:
 
No one is claiming that Trump said he knows "everything." LOL. Is that something you need to hear first before you consider someone foolish enough to continually make statements as president, where he claims he's an expert on anything he can think up at the moment? :auiqs.jpg:

When Netanyahu attacked the Iran - what's by the way absolutelly not any problem for me - I think it was a good idea to do so - specially also in context of Putins war on Europe in the Ukraine ... whatever ...

Again: When Netanyahu attacked the Iran he made a big mistake - Israel was not able to do what Netanyhu said - except he knew in this moment that the USA will send bombers. Definetelly the politics of the Western World needs more transparence.

Principle: You don't play with other people's lives. Here: with the lives of innocent Iranians and innocent Israelis. We must finally develop much clearer global guidelines in the fight against non-uniformed ‘soldiers’ and not just put down innocent people. May I remind you, for example, that Palestinians and Israelis often work very well together on humanitarian issues. The problems betwenen Israrli and Palestinians are not made from people who are abel to think and to feel in a normal way. they aer amde from extremists. First conclusion: Be no extremist on your own if you like to change this situation.
 
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You and who else?
The US military.
My last information is: "You" have delayed the development of nuclear weapons in Iran - which the mullahs have been pursuing rather half-heartedly anyway - by about 6 months. I can imagine that it might be interesting for ‘Iran’ - whoever that may be - to negotiate about nuclear weapons in the classical way instead of dealing in newfangled ways and/or even having them for real.
Iran will never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon.
More lies.
The US does want to stop the war in Ukraine. Putin wants to keep the war.

zang: I'm convinced the high traitor Donald Trump is a slave of Putin. Otherwise his extremely absurd behavior is not explainable.
What absurd behavior? Trump was a rock star at the NATO summit.

zang: I know what they said and this was bullshit. Main theme was to see in Donald Trump an idiot and to speak with this idiot in an adequate way without to destroy the rest of the relations between the USA and Europe forever.
Rutte complimented Trump for getting NATO to 5% of GDP BY 2035

zang: Why should I make sense - why should I make no sense? You should slowly understand that you speak with a totally strange person. I am not English. Your ways how you try to disqualify other people is strange to me.
You say the US is the enemy of the world without saying why.

zang: This I see in a totally other way. I think Donald Trump ashamed the Marines by giving them the order to attack the USA.
There was no order to attack anyone. That is a lie. The marines protected Federal buildings from rioters.

zang: If you forgot: Donald Trump the second pardoned ~1500 highly criminal and very violent enemies of the USA whom Donald Trump the first had incited to violently break the foundations of the US political system.
Trump can pardon anyone he wants to. The J6 riot could have been prevented by Nancy Pelosi if she would have approved the National Guard as Trump and police chief Sund requested. Pelosi takes responsibility for the riot on video.
 
Does enrichment take 30 years?
to get to the break out point of around 60% ? for a country that's new to enrichment yes it may .. but once the threshold of 60% is reached the time to complete enrichment to weapons grade is very short .. from a few weeks to just a few days ..
 
Yeah, all kinds of statements, and they all lead back to the delusions of grandeur of a crazy old man. No one actually smart would ever make a single statement like that, much less repeat it multiple times about completely different subjects. On the contrary, who do you see often talking this? Insanely dumb people who are the complete opposite of being more knowledgable than everyone else Think for yourself for once instead of being a voice for the cult.
that crazy old man has got gas and egg prices down , the border secured, a ceasefire between Israel and Iran ,nations lining up to sign fair trade deals with the US ,and NATO more than doubling their defense spending .. IN JUST 5 SHORT MONTHS ! 43 TO GO !
 
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The US military.

Iran will never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon.

Dummheit und Stolz wachsen auf einem Holz,

The US does want to stop the war in Ukraine.

Wrong.

Putin wants to keep the war.

True.

zang: I'm convinced the high traitor Donald Trump is a slave of Putin. Otherwise his extremely absurd behavior is not explainable.
What absurd behavior?

:lol:

Trump was a rock star at the NATO summit.

The USA is no reliable partner and what Trump says is worth nothing.

zang: I know what they said and this was bullshit. Main theme was to see in Donald Trump an idiot and to speak with this idiot in an adequate way without to destroy the rest of the relations between the USA and Europe forever.
Rutte complimented Trump for getting NATO to 5% of GDP BY 2035

What's a nonsense idea. The NATO is a defense alliance. In case of Germany for example only and exclusivelly our parliament decides and will deicde how much money we will spend for the military structure of Germany. No one knows now what in 2035 will be.

zang: Why should I make sense - why should I make no sense? You should slowly understand that you speak with a totally strange person. I am not English. Your ways how you try to disqualify other people is strange to me.
You say the US is the enemy of the world without saying why.

Ich fürchte jeder auf der Welt versteht ganz genau was ich da sage - nur ein US-Amerikaner wie Du nicht.
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I'm afraid everyone in the world understands exactly what I'm saying - except an US-American like you.

To see in the USA a positive nation was normally ~50:50 and better. Now it had been a short time ago ~33:67 and is currently on the way 20:80 - as it is also in most regions of Scandinavia. In words: Only 1/3-1/5 trust in the USA any longer; 2/3-4/5 do not trust in the USA any longer.

zang: This I see in a totally other way. I think Donald Trump ashamed the Marines by giving them the order to attack the USA.
There was no order to attack anyone. That is a lie. The marines protected Federal buildings from rioters.

Not my opinion but also not my problem. It's a problem of the USA.

zang: If you forgot: Donald Trump the second pardoned ~1500 highly criminal and very violent enemies of the USA whom Donald Trump the first had incited to violently break the foundations of the US political system.
Trump can pardon anyone he wants to.

The problem is "the USA" made a criminal to be president.

The J6 riot could have been prevented by Nancy Pelosi if she would have approved the National Guard as Trump and police chief Sund requested. Pelosi takes responsibility for the riot on video.
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That's now a Nazi argument in the logic: "It's the fault of the victims that we have to kill them". Trump was the aggressor who wanted to destroy the democracy of the USA and went even over dead bodies to do so.
 
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And the USA makes war in the Iran and supports Putin in the Ukraine. And the USA attacks Denmark (=Europe) and Canada and has in general since centuries problems with all other countries in America. That's why no one has to speak with the USA, USA-Sparky? Do you not see that the USA is on the strict way slowly and slimy to become an enemy of the whole civilized world? And not only of the civilized world outside of the USA. Why are US-American soldiers "attacking" LA?


Trump getting NATO countries to commit to defense spending from 2% of GDP to 5% [a 150% increase !] is not supporting Putin .
 
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No, I do not believe that the program was destroyed.

I DO believe that the targeted facilities were destroyed or severely damaged.

I DO believe that the Israelis killed a number of Iranian nuclear scientists and high-level nuclear-program managers.

I DO believe it highly likely that the Iranian nuclear program has been set back some months or years.

I find myself wondering whether we hit their refined materials stockpile or if it was removed or dispersed prior to the strike.

I find myself wondering whether we will hit them again sometime soon as other Iranian facilities pick up the slack.

I find myself wondering whether the only way to kill the Iranian Theocratic menace is to kill the Iranian Theocratic leadership.
 
to get to the break out point of around 60% ? for a country that's new to enrichment yes it may .. but once the threshold of 60% is reached the time to complete enrichment to weapons grade is very short .. from a few weeks to just a few days ..

Right, with their pre-strike enrichment capability of about 50,000 swu/yr, they could make enough weapons-grade material for nine bombs in just a few weeks from 60% material...

 

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