Who Started World War II, the answer is clear USSR (commies ) - Koba with occupation of BPR, UPR, Ge

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Who Started World War II, the answer is clear USSR and Koba with occupation of BPR, UPR, Georgia , Baltic states , etc. Why is so few people today know these facts ?

Ukrainian–Soviet War - Wikipedia
Red Army invasion of Georgia - Wikipedia

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The Red Army invasion of Georgia (15 February – 17 March 1921), also known as the Soviet–Georgian War or the Soviet invasion of Georgia, was a military campaign by the Russian Red Army aimed at overthrowing the Social-Democratic (Menshevik) government of the Democratic Republic of Georgia (DRG) and installing a ...




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The Versailles Treaty was the reason for Hitler's rise to power. The Germans were thoroughly humiliated by the terms of the treaty and Hitler was one of the main causes for WWII. He never intended to honor the treaty.

If there wasn't a Germany after WW1, there wouldn't have been a WW2.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I love revisionist history. It is one of the funniest things that can happen, for those of us with knowledge of history anyway.

Three Nations were responsible for World War II. Japan and their Imperial Ambitions in Asia. Italy, and their Imperial ambitions in Africa. Germany with their Imperial Ambitions of Europe, and the world.

The First was Italy. In 1935 Italian forces invaded what is today Ethiopia. The members of the League of Nations were still dealing with the Depression, and were desperate to avoid another meat grinder war.

The lack of actions by the League began the era of appeasement that ended in 1939 when Germany invaded Poland. Hitler, accustomed to getting whatever he wanted did not believe the British and French would really go to war.

The Soviet action you speak of was taken when Poland was invaded. The war was already going by that point. Italy became an official belligerent the next year when France was on her knees from the Nazi invasion. Japan launched her invasion the next year, and World War II was begun. So who caused the war? You could say Hitler. And be mostly right. You could say Mussolini. And be somewhat right. You could argue the League of Nations and be fractionally right. But arguing it was the Russians ignores history and facts to the point of delusion.

Soviets were killing Poles before WW2.
Like in the Polish Operation of the NKVD 1937 - 1938, over 111,000 Poles were killed by Soviets in those years just before World War 2.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I love revisionist history. It is one of the funniest things that can happen, for those of us with knowledge of history anyway.

Three Nations were responsible for World War II. Japan and their Imperial Ambitions in Asia. Italy, and their Imperial ambitions in Africa. Germany with their Imperial Ambitions of Europe, and the world.

The First was Italy. In 1935 Italian forces invaded what is today Ethiopia. The members of the League of Nations were still dealing with the Depression, and were desperate to avoid another meat grinder war.

The lack of actions by the League began the era of appeasement that ended in 1939 when Germany invaded Poland. Hitler, accustomed to getting whatever he wanted did not believe the British and French would really go to war.

The Soviet action you speak of was taken when Poland was invaded. The war was already going by that point. Italy became an official belligerent the next year when France was on her knees from the Nazi invasion. Japan launched her invasion the next year, and World War II was begun. So who caused the war? You could say Hitler. And be mostly right. You could say Mussolini. And be somewhat right. You could argue the League of Nations and be fractionally right. But arguing it was the Russians ignores history and facts to the point of delusion.

"I love revisionist history" what did you find a revisionist in soviet - Nazi pact?

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Before that happened, this had already occurred. Japan had invaded Manchuria. Italy had invaded Ethiopia. Hitler had invaded Austria and Czechoslovakia. The Soviet pact was not the cause. Imperialist Ambitions of three militaristic and arguably fascist nations were. I say arguably because Japan did not really fall into the Fascist category.

There was going to be a war anyway. Italian aims in the Middle East. German desires of domination. Japan’s aims of empire. The war was certain. Soviet policy, short sighted and idiotic, of letting the Capitalist and Fascists wipe each other out was hardly to blame. It did not do anything to start the war, and honestly the absence of it would have insured the war happened anyway. Only Hitler would have attacked Russia next instead of France which would have had a much larger impact on the war. France would never be able to stop Germany. And France would have remained on the Defensive using the outdated lessons of the First World War. The Soviets would not have been able to field the T-34 and would have been defeated in 1940 without the pact.

A more honest read of the history would be that the Pact was the first in a long line of Strategic Mistakes made by Hitler. Anyone who read Mein Kampf knew that Hitler and the Nazi ideology rested on hatred of Jews and Soviets. That war was inevitable.

Soviets killed just as much as the Nazis had in the late 1920's - early 1930's.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

France and England started WWII, by objecting to Germany taking back the Danzig corridor.

The Gdansk corridor was inhabited by a Polish majority, numb-nuts.

 

[whitehall]

Japan started WW2 by invading Manchuria. And the beat goes on. The dirty little secret is that the U.S. should have taken on a greater role in international politics but after two terms FDR was still dealing with the Great Depression and Stalin was a friend and an ally. The Brits were shocked that the the U.S. had virtually no international espionage or counter espionage capabilities or intelligence network.The Supreme Court had to finally decree that the FBI had the responsibility for espionage investigation even though Hoover was an old prohibition era agent and had zero experience in capturing and turning spies.

 

[Litwin]

I love revisionist history. It is one of the funniest things that can happen, for those of us with knowledge of history anyway.

Three Nations were responsible for World War II. Japan and their Imperial Ambitions in Asia. Italy, and their Imperial ambitions in Africa. Germany with their Imperial Ambitions of Europe, and the world.

The First was Italy. In 1935 Italian forces invaded what is today Ethiopia. The members of the League of Nations were still dealing with the Depression, and were desperate to avoid another meat grinder war.

The lack of actions by the League began the era of appeasement that ended in 1939 when Germany invaded Poland. Hitler, accustomed to getting whatever he wanted did not believe the British and French would really go to war.

The Soviet action you speak of was taken when Poland was invaded. The war was already going by that point. Italy became an official belligerent the next year when France was on her knees from the Nazi invasion. Japan launched her invasion the next year, and World War II was begun. So who caused the war? You could say Hitler. And be mostly right. You could say Mussolini. And be somewhat right. You could argue the League of Nations and be fractionally right. But arguing it was the Russians ignores history and facts to the point of delusion.

"I love revisionist history" what did you find a revisionist in soviet - Nazi pact?

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Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact - Wikipedia

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Jump to The Soviet war with Finland and the Katyn Massacre - Nazi Germany had requested the territory west ... The Soviets demanded territories on the

Before that happened, this had already occurred. Japan had invaded Manchuria. Italy had invaded Ethiopia. Hitler had invaded Austria and Czechoslovakia. The Soviet pact was not the cause. Imperialist Ambitions of three militaristic and arguably fascist nations were. I say arguably because Japan did not really fall into the Fascist category.

There was going to be a war anyway. Italian aims in the Middle East. German desires of domination. Japan’s aims of empire. The war was certain. Soviet policy, short sighted and idiotic, of letting the Capitalist and Fascists wipe each other out was hardly to blame. It did not do anything to start the war, and honestly the absence of it would have insured the war happened anyway. Only Hitler would have attacked Russia next instead of France which would have had a much larger impact on the war. France would never be able to stop Germany. And France would have remained on the Defensive using the outdated lessons of the First World War. The Soviets would not have been able to field the T-34 and would have been defeated in 1940 without the pact.

A more honest read of the history would be that the Pact was the first in a long line of Strategic Mistakes made by Hitler. Anyone who read Mein Kampf knew that Hitler and the Nazi ideology rested on hatred of Jews and Soviets. That war was inevitable.

"Before that happened, this had already occurred. Japan had invaded Manchuria. Italy had invaded Ethiopia. Hitler had invaded Austria and Czechoslovakia." before that happened commie Muscovy, invaded Belarus, Ukraine, Siberian-Ural republic, Armenia , Georgia (which was under USA protection) , Poland, Azerbaijan , etc.

 

[Litwin]

France and England started WWII, by objecting to Germany taking back the Danzig corridor.

The Gdansk corridor was inhabited by a Polish majority, numb-nuts.

+1, German Nazis had no rights to The Gdansk corridor . "Poland stated WW2 " is a famous putin´s myth

 

[Litwin]

Who Started World War II, the answer is clear USSR and Koba with occupation of BPR, UPR, Georgia , Baltic states , etc. Why is so few people today know these facts ?

Ukrainian–Soviet War - Wikipedia
Red Army invasion of Georgia - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Red_Army_invasion_of_Georgia
The Red Army invasion of Georgia (15 February – 17 March 1921), also known as the Soviet–Georgian War or the Soviet invasion of Georgia, was a military campaign by the Russian Red Army aimed at overthrowing the Social-Democratic (Menshevik) government of the Democratic Republic of Georgia (DRG) and installing a ...




Mark Solonin. Historian's personal webpage.Mark Solonin ...

www.solonin.org › article_mark-solonin-june-1941-final
Apr 5, 2014 - Two thirds of the distance between the western border and Leningrad and Moscow have been passed. Wermacht's tank divisions had ...

The Versailles Treaty was the reason for Hitler's rise to power. The Germans were thoroughly humiliated by the terms of the treaty and Hitler was one of the main causes for WWII. He never intended to honor the treaty.

If there wasn't a Germany after WW1, there wouldn't have been a WW2.

no, If there wasn't the Mongo juchi empire (under name ussr) after WW1, there wouldn't have been a WW2.

 

[Taz]

France and England started WWII, by objecting to Germany taking back the Danzig corridor.

The Gdansk corridor was inhabited by a Polish majority, numb-nuts.

Was taken from Germany

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

France and England started WWII, by objecting to Germany taking back the Danzig corridor.

The Gdansk corridor was inhabited by a Polish majority, numb-nuts.

Was taken from Germany

Germany took over the majority Polish Gdansk corridor in 1793 from Poland, Poland rightfully took it back in 1918.

 

[Taz]

France and England started WWII, by objecting to Germany taking back the Danzig corridor.

The Gdansk corridor was inhabited by a Polish majority, numb-nuts.

Was taken from Germany

Germany took over the majority Polish Gdansk corridor in 1793 from Poland, Poland rightfully took it back in 1918.

Making Poland responsible for WWII. Ok.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

France and England started WWII, by objecting to Germany taking back the Danzig corridor.

The Gdansk corridor was inhabited by a Polish majority, numb-nuts.

Was taken from Germany

Germany took over the majority Polish Gdansk corridor in 1793 from Poland, Poland rightfully took it back in 1918.

Making Poland responsible for WWII. Ok.

It was majority Polish, the German thieves stole it.

 

[Taz]

France and England started WWII, by objecting to Germany taking back the Danzig corridor.

The Gdansk corridor was inhabited by a Polish majority, numb-nuts.

Was taken from Germany

Germany took over the majority Polish Gdansk corridor in 1793 from Poland, Poland rightfully took it back in 1918.

Making Poland responsible for WWII. Ok.

It was majority Polish, the German thieves stole it.

Poland is a waste of good land.

 

[anynameyouwish]

Who Started World War II, the answer is clear USSR and Koba with occupation of BPR, UPR, Georgia , Baltic states , etc. Why is so few people today know these facts ?

Ukrainian–Soviet War - Wikipedia
Red Army invasion of Georgia - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Red_Army_invasion_of_Georgia
The Red Army invasion of Georgia (15 February – 17 March 1921), also known as the Soviet–Georgian War or the Soviet invasion of Georgia, was a military campaign by the Russian Red Army aimed at overthrowing the Social-Democratic (Menshevik) government of the Democratic Republic of Georgia (DRG) and installing a ...




Mark Solonin. Historian's personal webpage.Mark Solonin ...

www.solonin.org › article_mark-solonin-june-1941-final
Apr 5, 2014 - Two thirds of the distance between the western border and Leningrad and Moscow have been passed. Wermacht's tank divisions had ...

liberals started it!

and gays and atheists and muslims......

obama and moochelle started it!


hitlary started it!

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The Gdansk corridor was inhabited by a Polish majority, numb-nuts.

Was taken from Germany

Germany took over the majority Polish Gdansk corridor in 1793 from Poland, Poland rightfully took it back in 1918.

Making Poland responsible for WWII. Ok.

It was majority Polish, the German thieves stole it.

Poland is a waste of good land.

Poland's on the rise, Germany's on the decline.

 

[Litwin]

Was taken from Germany

Germany took over the majority Polish Gdansk corridor in 1793 from Poland, Poland rightfully took it back in 1918.

Making Poland responsible for WWII. Ok.

It was majority Polish, the German thieves stole it.

Poland is a waste of good land.

Poland's on the rise, Germany's on the decline.

its a myth , check structure of German export and GDP in general , its pure high-end products placed in many different boxes. Poland never will be there , its pure art in economy .

 

[Litwin]

The Gdansk corridor was inhabited by a Polish majority, numb-nuts.

Was taken from Germany

Germany took over the majority Polish Gdansk corridor in 1793 from Poland, Poland rightfully took it back in 1918.

Making Poland responsible for WWII. Ok.

It was majority Polish, the German thieves stole it.

Poland is a waste of good land.

why do you think so`? have you ever been in Poland ?

 

[Taz]

Was taken from Germany

Germany took over the majority Polish Gdansk corridor in 1793 from Poland, Poland rightfully took it back in 1918.

Making Poland responsible for WWII. Ok.

It was majority Polish, the German thieves stole it.

Poland is a waste of good land.

why do you think so`? have you ever been in Poland ?

Maybe if they had something worth visiting.

 

[harmonica]

nobody gave a shit about what happened with Russia

 

[mikegriffith1]

If you really want to understand WW II in Europe, you must read
The Chief Culprit: Stalin's Grand Design to Start World War II, by Viktor Suvorov, a former Soviet intelligence officer. Suvorov's book was a wildly popular best seller in Europe, especially in Eastern Europe, but American historians largely ignored or summarily dismissed the book because it invalidates much of what our history books say on the subject. For years Suvorov was unable to find an American publisher for the book; luckily, the U.S. Naval Institute agreed to publish it in 2008.

Suvorov proves beyond any doubt that the Soviets were a week or two away from attacking Germany, and that Hitler found out about it and beat them to the punch. Among other evidence, Suvorov provides numerous statements from Soviet generals who freely acknowledged that they were about to launch a massive attack on Germany. The reason the Germans were able to trounce the Soviets in the early going and capture such huge amounts of equipment and ammo is that the Soviets were in an offensive posture and therefore had brought up mountains of supplies to support them when they attacked.

An interesting side note is that the Soviets were very worried that the U.S. and Japan would reach a peace deal in 1941 and that the Japanese would thus be able to attack the Soviets.