Who Should Be Afraid Of The Chinese Virus?

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When trying to support the stringent closing of the economy, certain facts belie that plan, and seem to suggest that it is more about removing Trump’s ability to run on a burgeoning economy.



“The coronavirus targets the elderly frail with preexisting morbidities, as had been apparent from the highly detailed Italian data. As of April 12 in New York City, 97 percent of all coronavirus deaths had serious preexisting conditions, where the presence or absence of underlying conditions was known.

The death rate for coronavirus among individuals 75 and older is 63 times higher than the death rate for New Yorkers aged 18 to 44.

More than three-quarters of all deaths have been among people over 65 in New York City, a proportion replicated or exceeded elsewhere. This concentration of cases and deaths among the already sick elderly means that sweeping stay-at-home orders and business shutdowns are overly broad.” Keeping the coronavirus death toll in perspective




“…people with illnesses including heart disease, diabetes and cancer had a 79 per cent greater chance of being admitted to intensive care, being put on a ventilator, or dying from coronavirus.

Underlying health conditions that put you at risk of coronavirus

Some of the chronic conditions said to heighten the risk among patients are:

Asthma

Cancer

Cystic Fibrosis

Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) - emphysema or bronchitis

Primary Immumodeficiency (PID)

Chronic heart disease, such as heart failure

Chronic kidney disease

Chronic liver disease, such as hepatitis

Chronic neurological conditions, such as Parkinson's disease, motor neurone disease, multiple sclerosis (MS), a learning disability or cerebral palsy

Diabetes

Problems with your spleen – for example, sickle cell disease or if you have had your spleen removed

HIV and AIDS

Being seriously overweight (a BMI of 40 or above)

Coronavirus: The underlying health conditions that put you at risk of deadly bug




When judging the despotic commands being placed on the entire nation, in comparison to the above.......one should view the 'shut-down' through this prism:

Antonio Gramsci, Italian Marxist theoretician and founding member and one-time leader of the Communist Party of Italy. Gramsci’s motto is that of liberals today: “that all life is "political."
 

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When trying to support the stringent closing of the economy, certain facts belie that plan, and seem to suggest that it is more about removing Trump’s ability to run on a burgeoning economy.



“The coronavirus targets the elderly frail with preexisting morbidities, as had been apparent from the highly detailed Italian data. As of April 12 in New York City, 97 percent of all coronavirus deaths had serious preexisting conditions, where the presence or absence of underlying conditions was known.

The death rate for coronavirus among individuals 75 and older is 63 times higher than the death rate for New Yorkers aged 18 to 44.

More than three-quarters of all deaths have been among people over 65 in New York City, a proportion replicated or exceeded elsewhere. This concentration of cases and deaths among the already sick elderly means that sweeping stay-at-home orders and business shutdowns are overly broad.” Keeping the coronavirus death toll in perspective




“…people with illnesses including heart disease, diabetes and cancer had a 79 per cent greater chance of being admitted to intensive care, being put on a ventilator, or dying from coronavirus.

Underlying health conditions that put you at risk of coronavirus

Some of the chronic conditions said to heighten the risk among patients are:

Asthma

Cancer

Cystic Fibrosis

Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) - emphysema or bronchitis

Primary Immumodeficiency (PID)

Chronic heart disease, such as heart failure

Chronic kidney disease

Chronic liver disease, such as hepatitis

Chronic neurological conditions, such as Parkinson's disease, motor neurone disease, multiple sclerosis (MS), a learning disability or cerebral palsy

Diabetes

Problems with your spleen – for example, sickle cell disease or if you have had your spleen removed

HIV and AIDS

Being seriously overweight (a BMI of 40 or above)

Coronavirus: The underlying health conditions that put you at risk of deadly bug




When judging the despotic commands being placed on the entire nation, in comparison to the above.......one should view the 'shut-down' through this prism:

Antonio Gramsci, Italian Marxist theoretician and founding member and one-time leader of the Communist Party of Italy. Gramsci’s motto is that of liberals today: “that all life is "political."
I have said that all along, but to the left it is all about equality, if some old person gets the virus and dies, so shall everyone else, because it is all about misery that liberals live by. Of course this doesnt hold water for everyone dying because as we have seen down here in Floor E Da, many old people are still alive and kicking because some governor down here wanted those sick people from NY banned, so Gov Cuomo sent those sick liberals to retirement homes so he could cull the herd...
 

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These will keep coming like the MAGA-19.

Some keep telling us were are safe with lies.

But a few are insane.

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Perhaps you can articulate how your post relates to the OP.
The first line.
BTW: If you can recall Obama warned us and tried to get more CDC Funding.
Yeah, real nice of the brown turd Oblummer to put a tax on all medical equipment making it so unaffordable that even Gov Cuomo sold his.

You really need to see medical help for your PTDS.. it is really bad.
 

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There needs to be simple standards enforced to be around others now.
These will keep coming like the MAGA-19.

Some keep telling us were are safe with lies.

But a few are insane.

View attachment 333644


Perhaps you can articulate how your post relates to the OP.
The first line.
BTW: If you can recall Obama warned us and tried to get more CDC Funding.
Yeah, real nice of the brown turd Oblummer to put a tax on all medical equipment making it so unaffordable that even Gov Cuomo sold his.

You really need to see medical help for your PTDS.. it is really bad.
That has nothang to do with CDC Funding.
Obama did warn us fully upfront.
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The Great Douche wanted to ignore it MAGA 2020 COVID-19. FULLY!

btw: Do you have yours?

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There needs to be simple standards enforced to be around others now.
These will keep coming like the MAGA-19.

Some keep telling us were are safe with lies.

But a few are insane.

View attachment 333644


Perhaps you can articulate how your post relates to the OP.
The first line.
BTW: If you can recall Obama warned us and tried to get more CDC Funding.
Yeah, real nice of the brown turd Oblummer to put a tax on all medical equipment making it so unaffordable that even Gov Cuomo sold his.

You really need to see medical help for your PTDS.. it is really bad.
That has nothang to do with CDC Funding.
Obama did warn us fully upfront.
View attachment 333648

The Great Douche wanted to ignore it MAGA 2020 COVID-19. FULLY!
You're done, off to the ignore with the other 50 or so morons.
 
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There needs to be simple standards enforced to be around others now.
These will keep coming like the MAGA-19.

Some keep telling us were are safe with lies.

But a few are insane.

View attachment 333644


Perhaps you can articulate how your post relates to the OP.
The first line.
BTW: If you can recall Obama warned us and tried to get more CDC Funding.


Obama????

God....Jesus....the messiah????


The guy who waited six months and 1,000 American dead before he declared the H1N1 a health emergency?????

This Obama???

"Obama declares H1N1 emergency
October 26,
2009 8:47 a.m. EDT
Washington (CNN) -- President Obama has declared a national emergency to deal with the "rapid increase in illness" from the H1N1 influenza virus."
Obama declares H1N1 emergency - CNN.com

It isn't until paragraph 10 that this is noted:

"Since the H1N1 flu pandemic began in April, millions of people in the United States have been infected, at least 20,000 have been hospitalized and more than 1,000 have died, said Dr. Thomas Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."



Eight years after the Obamunists experienced the H1N1, how is it that they never replenished ventilators, never replenished testing kits, never made sure there were enough PTE’s, the face shields, the masks, enough gloves, etc.???


Should we assume that the one your side called god, Jesus, and the messiah, actually imagined that there would never be another such epidemic, and, therefore, he needn't replace/renew any of the supplies that were used up during his 'handling' of the H1N1.

One can certainly understand such a belief on his part, as he promised that his election "was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth"



Soooo.....is he still god?


Or are you Democrats simply fools?
 

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View attachment 333644


Perhaps you can articulate how your post relates to the OP.
The first line.
BTW: If you can recall Obama warned us and tried to get more CDC Funding.


Obama????

God....Jesus....the messiah????


The guy who waited six months and 1,000 American dead before he declared the H1N1 a health emergency?????

This Obama???

"Obama declares H1N1 emergency
October 26,
2009 8:47 a.m. EDT
Washington (CNN) -- President Obama has declared a national emergency to deal with the "rapid increase in illness" from the H1N1 influenza virus."
Obama declares H1N1 emergency - CNN.com

It isn't until paragraph 10 that this is noted:

"Since the H1N1 flu pandemic began in April, millions of people in the United States have been infected, at least 20,000 have been hospitalized and more than 1,000 have died, said Dr. Thomas Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."



Eight years after the Obamunists experienced the H1N1, how is it that they never replenished ventilators, never replenished testing kits, never made sure there were enough PTE’s, the face shields, the masks, enough gloves, etc.???


Should we assume that the one your side called god, Jesus, and the messiah, actually imagined that there would never be another such epidemic, and, therefore, he needn't replace/renew any of the supplies that were used up during his 'handling' of the H1N1.

One can certainly understand such a belief on his part, as he promised that his election "was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth"



Soooo.....is he still god?


Or are you Democrats simply fools?
I will answer Alex, why are Democrats simply fools?
 
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When trying to support the stringent closing of the economy, certain facts belie that plan, and seem to suggest that it is more about removing Trump’s ability to run on a burgeoning economy.



“The coronavirus targets the elderly frail with preexisting morbidities, as had been apparent from the highly detailed Italian data. As of April 12 in New York City, 97 percent of all coronavirus deaths had serious preexisting conditions, where the presence or absence of underlying conditions was known.

The death rate for coronavirus among individuals 75 and older is 63 times higher than the death rate for New Yorkers aged 18 to 44.

More than three-quarters of all deaths have been among people over 65 in New York City, a proportion replicated or exceeded elsewhere. This concentration of cases and deaths among the already sick elderly means that sweeping stay-at-home orders and business shutdowns are overly broad.” Keeping the coronavirus death toll in perspective




“…people with illnesses including heart disease, diabetes and cancer had a 79 per cent greater chance of being admitted to intensive care, being put on a ventilator, or dying from coronavirus.

Underlying health conditions that put you at risk of coronavirus

Some of the chronic conditions said to heighten the risk among patients are:

Asthma

Cancer

Cystic Fibrosis

Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) - emphysema or bronchitis

Primary Immumodeficiency (PID)

Chronic heart disease, such as heart failure

Chronic kidney disease

Chronic liver disease, such as hepatitis

Chronic neurological conditions, such as Parkinson's disease, motor neurone disease, multiple sclerosis (MS), a learning disability or cerebral palsy

Diabetes

Problems with your spleen – for example, sickle cell disease or if you have had your spleen removed

HIV and AIDS

Being seriously overweight (a BMI of 40 or above)

Coronavirus: The underlying health conditions that put you at risk of deadly bug




When judging the despotic commands being placed on the entire nation, in comparison to the above.......one should view the 'shut-down' through this prism:

Antonio Gramsci, Italian Marxist theoretician and founding member and one-time leader of the Communist Party of Italy. Gramsci’s motto is that of liberals today: “that all life is "political."
I have said that all along, but to the left it is all about equality, if some old person gets the virus and dies, so shall everyone else, because it is all about misery that liberals live by. Of course this doesnt hold water for everyone dying because as we have seen down here in Floor E Da, many old people are still alive and kicking because some governor down here wanted those sick people from NY banned, so Gov Cuomo sent those sick liberals to retirement homes so he could cull the herd...

And Democrat Cuomo is now denying he did it.....



"Two weeks ago, Gov. Andrew Cuomo was first asked about his policy that forced nursing homes to admit patients infected with the coronavirus.

That’s a good question, I don’t know,” the governor answered, turning to an aide.

On Tuesday, Cuomo was asked about a report from the Associated Press that his team had added more than 1,700 deaths to the count of those who died in nursing homes, bringing the total to at least 4,813.

“I don’t know the details, frankly,” the governor answered, turning to an aide."
nypost.com

This nursing home disaster is on you, Gov. Cuomo: Goodwin
On Tuesday, Cuomo was asked about a report from the Associated Press that his team had added more than 1,700 deaths to the count of those who died in nursing homes, bringing the total to at least 4…
nypost.com
nypost.com






"New York Mandates Nursing Homes Take Covid-19 Patients Discharged From Hospitals
State cites urgent need to expand hospital capacity; doctors group says decision ‘represents a clear and present danger to all of the residents of a nursing home.’"

www.wsj.com

WSJ News Exclusive | New York Mandates Nursing Homes Take Covid-19 Patients Discharged From Hospitals
The decision will draw pushback from some nursing-home officials, who have warned that such moves endanger residents who aren’t infected by the virus, because discharged patients may still be contagious.
www.wsj.com
www.wsj.com
 

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These will keep coming like the MAGA-19.

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View attachment 333644


Perhaps you can articulate how your post relates to the OP.
The first line.
BTW: If you can recall Obama warned us and tried to get more CDC Funding.


Obama????

God....Jesus....the messiah????


The guy who waited six months and 1,000 American dead before he declared the H1N1 a health emergency?????

This Obama???

"Obama declares H1N1 emergency
October 26,
2009 8:47 a.m. EDT
Washington (CNN) -- President Obama has declared a national emergency to deal with the "rapid increase in illness" from the H1N1 influenza virus."
Obama declares H1N1 emergency - CNN.com

It isn't until paragraph 10 that this is noted:

"Since the H1N1 flu pandemic began in April, millions of people in the United States have been infected, at least 20,000 have been hospitalized and more than 1,000 have died, said Dr. Thomas Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."



Eight years after the Obamunists experienced the H1N1, how is it that they never replenished ventilators, never replenished testing kits, never made sure there were enough PTE’s, the face shields, the masks, enough gloves, etc.???


Should we assume that the one your side called god, Jesus, and the messiah, actually imagined that there would never be another such epidemic, and, therefore, he needn't replace/renew any of the supplies that were used up during his 'handling' of the H1N1.

One can certainly understand such a belief on his part, as he promised that his election "was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth"



Soooo.....is he still god?


Or are you Democrats simply fools?
So are you blaming Obama for that? If the stuff posted is fully correct. Which is not.
But he never said it not there. And fully was informed of status..

But the Great Douche can't be held to same standards.
FULLY Lying from Dec 2019.

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Now in a few months (5) some 78K are dead.

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When trying to support the stringent closing of the economy, certain facts belie that plan, and seem to suggest that it is more about removing Trump’s ability to run on a burgeoning economy.



“The coronavirus targets the elderly frail with preexisting morbidities, as had been apparent from the highly detailed Italian data. As of April 12 in New York City, 97 percent of all coronavirus deaths had serious preexisting conditions, where the presence or absence of underlying conditions was known.

The death rate for coronavirus among individuals 75 and older is 63 times higher than the death rate for New Yorkers aged 18 to 44.

More than three-quarters of all deaths have been among people over 65 in New York City, a proportion replicated or exceeded elsewhere. This concentration of cases and deaths among the already sick elderly means that sweeping stay-at-home orders and business shutdowns are overly broad.” Keeping the coronavirus death toll in perspective




“…people with illnesses including heart disease, diabetes and cancer had a 79 per cent greater chance of being admitted to intensive care, being put on a ventilator, or dying from coronavirus.

Underlying health conditions that put you at risk of coronavirus

Some of the chronic conditions said to heighten the risk among patients are:

Asthma

Cancer

Cystic Fibrosis

Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) - emphysema or bronchitis

Primary Immumodeficiency (PID)

Chronic heart disease, such as heart failure

Chronic kidney disease

Chronic liver disease, such as hepatitis

Chronic neurological conditions, such as Parkinson's disease, motor neurone disease, multiple sclerosis (MS), a learning disability or cerebral palsy

Diabetes

Problems with your spleen – for example, sickle cell disease or if you have had your spleen removed

HIV and AIDS

Being seriously overweight (a BMI of 40 or above)

Coronavirus: The underlying health conditions that put you at risk of deadly bug




When judging the despotic commands being placed on the entire nation, in comparison to the above.......one should view the 'shut-down' through this prism:

Antonio Gramsci, Italian Marxist theoretician and founding member and one-time leader of the Communist Party of Italy. Gramsci’s motto is that of liberals today: “that all life is "political."
I have said that all along, but to the left it is all about equality, if some old person gets the virus and dies, so shall everyone else, because it is all about misery that liberals live by. Of course this doesnt hold water for everyone dying because as we have seen down here in Floor E Da, many old people are still alive and kicking because some governor down here wanted those sick people from NY banned, so Gov Cuomo sent those sick liberals to retirement homes so he could cull the herd...

And Democrat Cuomo is now denying he did it.....



"Two weeks ago, Gov. Andrew Cuomo was first asked about his policy that forced nursing homes to admit patients infected with the coronavirus.

That’s a good question, I don’t know,” the governor answered, turning to an aide.

On Tuesday, Cuomo was asked about a report from the Associated Press that his team had added more than 1,700 deaths to the count of those who died in nursing homes, bringing the total to at least 4,813.

“I don’t know the details, frankly,” the governor answered, turning to an aide."
nypost.com

This nursing home disaster is on you, Gov. Cuomo: Goodwin
On Tuesday, Cuomo was asked about a report from the Associated Press that his team had added more than 1,700 deaths to the count of those who died in nursing homes, bringing the total to at least 4…
nypost.com
nypost.com






"New York Mandates Nursing Homes Take Covid-19 Patients Discharged From Hospitals
State cites urgent need to expand hospital capacity; doctors group says decision ‘represents a clear and present danger to all of the residents of a nursing home.’"

www.wsj.com

WSJ News Exclusive | New York Mandates Nursing Homes Take Covid-19 Patients Discharged From Hospitals
The decision will draw pushback from some nursing-home officials, who have warned that such moves endanger residents who aren’t infected by the virus, because discharged patients may still be contagious.
www.wsj.com
www.wsj.com
It is always amazing the selective Alzheimer's that suddenly affects a Democrat when asked why people die. Of course he could done like Hillary and just said, "at this point what difference does it make that the old farts bit the big one", look at me now, i am amazing and single.

 
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There needs to be simple standards enforced to be around others now.
These will keep coming like the MAGA-19.

Some keep telling us were are safe with lies.

But a few are insane.

View attachment 333644


Perhaps you can articulate how your post relates to the OP.
The first line.
BTW: If you can recall Obama warned us and tried to get more CDC Funding.


Obama????

God....Jesus....the messiah????


The guy who waited six months and 1,000 American dead before he declared the H1N1 a health emergency?????

This Obama???

"Obama declares H1N1 emergency
October 26,
2009 8:47 a.m. EDT
Washington (CNN) -- President Obama has declared a national emergency to deal with the "rapid increase in illness" from the H1N1 influenza virus."
Obama declares H1N1 emergency - CNN.com

It isn't until paragraph 10 that this is noted:

"Since the H1N1 flu pandemic began in April, millions of people in the United States have been infected, at least 20,000 have been hospitalized and more than 1,000 have died, said Dr. Thomas Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."



Eight years after the Obamunists experienced the H1N1, how is it that they never replenished ventilators, never replenished testing kits, never made sure there were enough PTE’s, the face shields, the masks, enough gloves, etc.???


Should we assume that the one your side called god, Jesus, and the messiah, actually imagined that there would never be another such epidemic, and, therefore, he needn't replace/renew any of the supplies that were used up during his 'handling' of the H1N1.

One can certainly understand such a belief on his part, as he promised that his election "was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth"



Soooo.....is he still god?


Or are you Democrats simply fools?
So are you blaming Obama for that? If the stuff posted is fully correct. Which is not.
But he never said it not there. And fully was informed of status..

But the Great Douche can't be held to same standards.
FULLY Lying from Dec 2019.

View attachment 333651
Now in a few months (5) some 78K are dead.

View attachment 333652


Everything I post is correct.

It is linked, sourced and documented.



Let's compare the six months and 1,000 deaths before Obama left the golf course, with this:


News of the virus’ highly contagious nature didn’t surface publicly until Jan. 20, Human-to-human transmission confirmed in China coronavirus…and it took Trump a whole 11 days to shut down travel with China.

“Trump already signed an order Jan. 31 barring entry to foreign nationals,…” Trump sets new travel restrictions over coronavirus, considering southern border shutdown

Eleven days….


“Also in the wake of the ban on Jan. 31:

An article in The New York Times quotes epidemiologist Dr. Michael Osterholm as saying that Trump's decision to restrict travel from China was "more of an emotional or political reaction."

The Washington Post runs a story quoting a Chinese official asking for "empathy" and slamming the White House for acting "in disregard of WHO recommendation against travel restrictions."

Vox tweets: "Is this going to be a deadly pandemic? No." The tweet was deleted weeks later.

Canada's health minister Patty Hajdu, who would later say there was no reason to doubt Chinese coronavirus data, says the risk of the virus is "low" and that early-warning systems are working "exactly as they should." The "spread of the disease is contained," Hajdu claimed.



  • Death counts indicated that 213 people had died and nearly 10,000 had been infected.”
Coronavirus timeline shows politicians', media's changing rhetoric on risk of pandemic



Shouldn’t all of them have backed the President’s efforts to save Americans???
Shouldn’t they also subscribe to erring on the side of caution????
Why does the Left, the Democrats/Liberals….hate America and Americans?????
 
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There needs to be simple standards enforced to be around others now.
These will keep coming like the MAGA-19.

Some keep telling us were are safe with lies.

But a few are insane.

View attachment 333644


Perhaps you can articulate how your post relates to the OP.
The first line.
BTW: If you can recall Obama warned us and tried to get more CDC Funding.


Obama????

God....Jesus....the messiah????


The guy who waited six months and 1,000 American dead before he declared the H1N1 a health emergency?????

This Obama???

"Obama declares H1N1 emergency
October 26,
2009 8:47 a.m. EDT
Washington (CNN) -- President Obama has declared a national emergency to deal with the "rapid increase in illness" from the H1N1 influenza virus."
Obama declares H1N1 emergency - CNN.com

It isn't until paragraph 10 that this is noted:

"Since the H1N1 flu pandemic began in April, millions of people in the United States have been infected, at least 20,000 have been hospitalized and more than 1,000 have died, said Dr. Thomas Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."



Eight years after the Obamunists experienced the H1N1, how is it that they never replenished ventilators, never replenished testing kits, never made sure there were enough PTE’s, the face shields, the masks, enough gloves, etc.???


Should we assume that the one your side called god, Jesus, and the messiah, actually imagined that there would never be another such epidemic, and, therefore, he needn't replace/renew any of the supplies that were used up during his 'handling' of the H1N1.

One can certainly understand such a belief on his part, as he promised that his election "was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth"



Soooo.....is he still god?


Or are you Democrats simply fools?
So are you blaming Obama for that? If the stuff posted is fully correct. Which is not.
But he never said it not there. And fully was informed of status..

But the Great Douche can't be held to same standards.
FULLY Lying from Dec 2019.

View attachment 333651
Now in a few months (5) some 78K are dead.

View attachment 333652



Your data is incorrect.
There is no way to tell how many have died of the Wuhan virus.

Here's why:


“The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate. However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID- 19 being the underlying cause more often than not,” the guidelines read.

“COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc.,” the guidance continued.

“If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II.”
Is The Number of Deaths Due To COVID-19 Being Inflated, And, If So, Why? | NewsRadio 740 KTRH | Michael Berry





As we have yet to reach the total death rate reported in 2019 for the same time period (January 1st and April 9th), it appears that there is something seriously wrong with the way this pandemic has been reported and handled by the medical community, the media, and the politicians.

Pathetically, it most likely isn’t going to get better when as of April 8, 2020, all patients with coronavirus are now being classified as “Death due to COVID-19,” regardless of the real cause of death. This draconian method of manipulating data to conform to your hypothesis is pure evil. It allows the medical community, the media, and politicians to cover up their errors, distort their miscalculations, and falsify their reports so that they can justify even further measures that will attempt to control, manipulate, and profit from those who don’t understand the importance of “statistical significance”. Statistically Significant: Why It Makes a Difference - Tom McFie



Your posts appear to be suffering from insufficient knowledge, don't they.
 

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There needs to be simple standards enforced to be around others now.
These will keep coming like the MAGA-19.

Some keep telling us were are safe with lies.

But a few are insane.

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Perhaps you can articulate how your post relates to the OP.
The first line.
BTW: If you can recall Obama warned us and tried to get more CDC Funding.
Yeah, real nice of the brown turd Oblummer to put a tax on all medical equipment making it so unaffordable that even Gov Cuomo sold his.

You really need to see medical help for your PTDS.. it is really bad.
That has nothang to do with CDC Funding.
Obama did warn us fully upfront.
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The Great Douche wanted to ignore it MAGA 2020 COVID-19. FULLY!
You're done, off to the ignore with the other 50 or so morons.
Can't handle facts I read.
That's how you got us here.

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There needs to be simple standards enforced to be around others now.
These will keep coming like the MAGA-19.

Some keep telling us were are safe with lies.

But a few are insane.

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Perhaps you can articulate how your post relates to the OP.
The first line.
BTW: If you can recall Obama warned us and tried to get more CDC Funding.


Obama????

God....Jesus....the messiah????


The guy who waited six months and 1,000 American dead before he declared the H1N1 a health emergency?????

This Obama???

"Obama declares H1N1 emergency
October 26,
2009 8:47 a.m. EDT
Washington (CNN) -- President Obama has declared a national emergency to deal with the "rapid increase in illness" from the H1N1 influenza virus."
Obama declares H1N1 emergency - CNN.com

It isn't until paragraph 10 that this is noted:

"Since the H1N1 flu pandemic began in April, millions of people in the United States have been infected, at least 20,000 have been hospitalized and more than 1,000 have died, said Dr. Thomas Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."



Eight years after the Obamunists experienced the H1N1, how is it that they never replenished ventilators, never replenished testing kits, never made sure there were enough PTE’s, the face shields, the masks, enough gloves, etc.???


Should we assume that the one your side called god, Jesus, and the messiah, actually imagined that there would never be another such epidemic, and, therefore, he needn't replace/renew any of the supplies that were used up during his 'handling' of the H1N1.

One can certainly understand such a belief on his part, as he promised that his election "was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth"



Soooo.....is he still god?


Or are you Democrats simply fools?
So are you blaming Obama for that? If the stuff posted is fully correct. Which is not.
But he never said it not there. And fully was informed of status..

But the Great Douche can't be held to same standards.
FULLY Lying from Dec 2019.

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Now in a few months (5) some 78K are dead.

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Your data is incorrect.
There is no way to tell how many have died of the Wuhan virus.

Here's why:


“The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate. However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID- 19 being the underlying cause more often than not,” the guidelines read.

“COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc.,” the guidance continued.

“If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II.”
Is The Number of Deaths Due To COVID-19 Being Inflated, And, If So, Why? | NewsRadio 740 KTRH | Michael Berry





As we have yet to reach the total death rate reported in 2019 for the same time period (January 1st and April 9th), it appears that there is something seriously wrong with the way this pandemic has been reported and handled by the medical community, the media, and the politicians.

Pathetically, it most likely isn’t going to get better when as of April 8, 2020, all patients with coronavirus are now being classified as “Death due to COVID-19,” regardless of the real cause of death. This draconian method of manipulating data to conform to your hypothesis is pure evil. It allows the medical community, the media, and politicians to cover up their errors, distort their miscalculations, and falsify their reports so that they can justify even further measures that will attempt to control, manipulate, and profit from those who don’t understand the importance of “statistical significance”. Statistically Significant: Why It Makes a Difference - Tom McFie



Your posts appear to be suffering from insufficient knowledge, don't they.
Read it right here.

Would the Great Douche allow lies?
And report by each state so far.
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When trying to support the stringent closing of the economy, certain facts belie that plan, and seem to suggest that it is more about removing Trump’s ability to run on a burgeoning economy.



“The coronavirus targets the elderly frail with preexisting morbidities, as had been apparent from the highly detailed Italian data. As of April 12 in New York City, 97 percent of all coronavirus deaths had serious preexisting conditions, where the presence or absence of underlying conditions was known.

The death rate for coronavirus among individuals 75 and older is 63 times higher than the death rate for New Yorkers aged 18 to 44.

More than three-quarters of all deaths have been among people over 65 in New York City, a proportion replicated or exceeded elsewhere. This concentration of cases and deaths among the already sick elderly means that sweeping stay-at-home orders and business shutdowns are overly broad.” Keeping the coronavirus death toll in perspective




“…people with illnesses including heart disease, diabetes and cancer had a 79 per cent greater chance of being admitted to intensive care, being put on a ventilator, or dying from coronavirus.

Underlying health conditions that put you at risk of coronavirus

Some of the chronic conditions said to heighten the risk among patients are:

Asthma

Cancer

Cystic Fibrosis

Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) - emphysema or bronchitis

Primary Immumodeficiency (PID)

Chronic heart disease, such as heart failure

Chronic kidney disease

Chronic liver disease, such as hepatitis

Chronic neurological conditions, such as Parkinson's disease, motor neurone disease, multiple sclerosis (MS), a learning disability or cerebral palsy

Diabetes

Problems with your spleen – for example, sickle cell disease or if you have had your spleen removed

HIV and AIDS

Being seriously overweight (a BMI of 40 or above)

Coronavirus: The underlying health conditions that put you at risk of deadly bug




When judging the despotic commands being placed on the entire nation, in comparison to the above.......one should view the 'shut-down' through this prism:

Antonio Gramsci, Italian Marxist theoretician and founding member and one-time leader of the Communist Party of Italy. Gramsci’s motto is that of liberals today: “that all life is "political."
I had it as such I have no fear
 

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There needs to be simple standards enforced to be around others now.
These will keep coming like the MAGA-19.

Some keep telling us were are safe with lies.

But a few are insane.

View attachment 333644


Perhaps you can articulate how your post relates to the OP.
The first line.
BTW: If you can recall Obama warned us and tried to get more CDC Funding.

Maybe Obama should have warned himself. H1N1 happened under his watch and more people died of that than China Virus.
 

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There needs to be simple standards enforced to be around others now.
These will keep coming like the MAGA-19.

Some keep telling us were are safe with lies.

But a few are insane.

View attachment 333644


Perhaps you can articulate how your post relates to the OP.
The first line.
BTW: If you can recall Obama warned us and tried to get more CDC Funding.

Maybe Obama should have warned himself. H1N1 happened under his watch and more people died of that than China Virus.
It did happen then.
Nope less died like 6 or 8K.
Unless shown China used it in an attack on the USA.
Blaming China is a BS issue. Humans and animals make these killer virus bloom.
Or to fully save face for MAGA Morons, it was made by god.
If China wanted to help themselves. Let it freely spread in China. 40% loses would be helpful
the stay in power. This planet has 8B plus. It's too many.
 
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