Who is the Liar?

What I don't understand is why no Arab country will grant their Palestinians a right of return. And why they had to massacre their Palestinians by the tens of thousands & leave tens of thousands of others as refugees? Is it possible the Arab countries do not see their Palestinian brothers as friendly, peaceful & life loving?
I guess they just hate anybody in general that lives in the blood soaked "holy" land
 
When was the last time an Arab wanted to move to Israel from any Arab state?

How should I know? But they could if they wanted to. Right? Right?!

BTW, There are many who can move to Israel without being Jews. Israel has a large Russian non-Jewish community who are citizens of Israel.

Oh that's cool. So if a non-Jewish Russian wanted to move to Israel now, it would be the same process as for a Jewish person. Right? Right?!

What's with the "Right? Right?!" thing? it makes you sound weird.

And to answer truthfully, probably not. But that is not to be a mojor problem, because, again, there is a mass community of non-Jews. The exact process? I don't know it, I never had to go through it. But you realize now that you're grasping at straws, don't you? first you hint that living moving to Israel is nearly impossible if you're not Jews, now "Oh, it's possible, but very difficult".

Keep this rate, and you might actually come to the truth at some point.
You are completely dodging the question. This thread is about equal rights. Is the process for non-Jews the same for moving to Israel as it is for Jewish people? Yes or no.

Probably not because Israel was created as a haven for Jews. But I was talking more about day-to-day living rights, school and job opportunities, freedom of speech and worship, etc.
 
When was the last time an Arab wanted to move to Israel from any Arab state?

How should I know? But they could if they wanted to. Right? Right?!

BTW, There are many who can move to Israel without being Jews. Israel has a large Russian non-Jewish community who are citizens of Israel.

Oh that's cool. So if a non-Jewish Russian wanted to move to Israel now, it would be the same process as for a Jewish person. Right? Right?!

What's with the "Right? Right?!" thing? it makes you sound weird.

And to answer truthfully, probably not. But that is not to be a mojor problem, because, again, there is a mass community of non-Jews. The exact process? I don't know it, I never had to go through it. But you realize now that you're grasping at straws, don't you? first you hint that living moving to Israel is nearly impossible if you're not Jews, now "Oh, it's possible, but very difficult".

Keep this rate, and you might actually come to the truth at some point.
You are completely dodging the question. This thread is about equal rights. Is the process for non-Jews the same for moving to Israel as it is for Jewish people? Yes or no.
Equal rights do not apply to non citizens, dufus. A country has the right to decide who it wants to allow inside its borders and how many.
Yes Israel has chosen to be a pseudo-Jewish theocracy, and to live with the problems it brings. So in response to the OP, no, Arabs are not treated equally.

Israel is not a Theocracy, Pseudo or not.

The Arabs who live in Israel and chosen to become citizens of that country, and more and more of them are choosing to do so, are in total disagreement of what you are saying.

You seem to be suffering from the same illness as so many anti Israel posters do around here.

You know N-O-T-H-I-N-G about Israel. You come on the thread with
pre disposed assumptions and ideas about Jews and Israel, and that is basically what is coming out of all of your posts.

Do the right research, or GO to Israel and meet with Israeli Arab citizens and others.

But STOP slandering, defaming, delegitimizing Israel when you know nothing about her, except for what you have heard in church, read in your favorite non favorable to Israel books and sites, or any other source where you derives this total out of this world assumption you are definitely living under.

You do not seem to know what EQUAL RIGHTS means.

Be it about voting. Going to school. Getting a job. Being able to travel, et, etc which Jews in Europe and Muslim conquered areas always found themselves under.

Or for that matter, all the rights all the Muslim women, children and those who do not agree with their governments are under at this very moment..

Try not to smear Israel and Jews with your prejudices, and we shall arrive to a decent conversation.
 
What I don't understand is why no Arab country will grant their Palestinians a right of return. And why they had to massacre their Palestinians by the tens of thousands & leave tens of thousands of others as refugees? Is it possible the Arab countries do not see their Palestinian brothers as friendly, peaceful & life loving?
I guess they just hate anybody in general that lives in the blood soaked "holy" land

Israel has made a lasting peace with Egypt, Jordan & Saudi Arabia while the Palestinians have not made peace with any Arab nation.
 
How should I know? But they could if they wanted to. Right? Right?!

Oh that's cool. So if a non-Jewish Russian wanted to move to Israel now, it would be the same process as for a Jewish person. Right? Right?!

What's with the "Right? Right?!" thing? it makes you sound weird.

And to answer truthfully, probably not. But that is not to be a mojor problem, because, again, there is a mass community of non-Jews. The exact process? I don't know it, I never had to go through it. But you realize now that you're grasping at straws, don't you? first you hint that living moving to Israel is nearly impossible if you're not Jews, now "Oh, it's possible, but very difficult".

Keep this rate, and you might actually come to the truth at some point.
You are completely dodging the question. This thread is about equal rights. Is the process for non-Jews the same for moving to Israel as it is for Jewish people? Yes or no.
Equal rights do not apply to non citizens, dufus. A country has the right to decide who it wants to allow inside its borders and how many.
Yes Israel has chosen to be a pseudo-Jewish theocracy, and to live with the problems it brings. So in response to the OP, no, Arabs are not treated equally.

Israel is not a Theocracy, Pseudo or not.

The Arabs who live in Israel and chosen to become citizens of that country, and more and more of them are choosing to do so, are in total disagreement of what you are saying.

You seem to be suffering from the same illness as so many anti Israel posters do around here.

You know N-O-T-H-I-N-G about Israel. You come on the thread with
pre disposed assumptions and ideas about Jews and Israel, and that is basically what is coming out of all of your posts.

Do the right research, or GO to Israel and meet with Israeli Arab citizens and others.

But STOP slandering, defaming, delegitimizing Israel when you know nothing about her, except for what you have heard in church, read in your favorite non favorable to Israel books and sites, or any other source where you derives this total out of this world assumption you are definitely living under.

You do not seem to know what EQUAL RIGHTS means.

Be it about voting. Going to school. Getting a job. Being able to travel, et, etc which Jews in Europe and Muslim conquered areas always found themselves under.

Or for that matter, all the rights all the Muslim women, children and those who do not agree with their governments are under at this very moment..

Try not to smear Israel and Jews with your prejudices, and we shall arrive to a decent conversation.
You do not seem to know what EQUAL RIGHTS means. it means all people have the same rights, as in EQUAL
An israel Arab is not free to bring a spouse into israel, while a jew, any jew, can bring in a foreign born spouse in
 
When was the last time an Arab wanted to move to Israel from any Arab state?

How should I know? But they could if they wanted to. Right? Right?!

BTW, There are many who can move to Israel without being Jews. Israel has a large Russian non-Jewish community who are citizens of Israel.

Oh that's cool. So if a non-Jewish Russian wanted to move to Israel now, it would be the same process as for a Jewish person. Right? Right?!

What's with the "Right? Right?!" thing? it makes you sound weird.

And to answer truthfully, probably not. But that is not to be a mojor problem, because, again, there is a mass community of non-Jews. The exact process? I don't know it, I never had to go through it. But you realize now that you're grasping at straws, don't you? first you hint that living moving to Israel is nearly impossible if you're not Jews, now "Oh, it's possible, but very difficult".

Keep this rate, and you might actually come to the truth at some point.
You are completely dodging the question. This thread is about equal rights. Is the process for non-Jews the same for moving to Israel as it is for Jewish people? Yes or no.

Probably not. And I answered that. You just keep coming back to the same issue. Read my posts.

And if we're pointing out "descriminations" as you so much love them, I will only mention that my yearly college payments, originally, were about 40% more expansive than the Arab yearly costs. Why? because college for Arabs in my college was cheaper. For no logical reason.

Oy, those horrible Jews.
 
What I don't understand is why no Arab country will grant their Palestinians a right of return. And why they had to massacre their Palestinians by the tens of thousands & leave tens of thousands of others as refugees? Is it possible the Arab countries do not see their Palestinian brothers as friendly, peaceful & life loving?
I guess they just hate anybody in general that lives in the blood soaked "holy" land

Israel has made a lasting peace with Egypt, Jordan & Saudi Arabia while the Palestinians have not made peace with any Arab nation.
What Arab nation is Palestine at war with?
 
When was the last time an Arab wanted to move to Israel from any Arab state?

How should I know? But they could if they wanted to. Right? Right?!

BTW, There are many who can move to Israel without being Jews. Israel has a large Russian non-Jewish community who are citizens of Israel.

Oh that's cool. So if a non-Jewish Russian wanted to move to Israel now, it would be the same process as for a Jewish person. Right? Right?!

What's with the "Right? Right?!" thing? it makes you sound weird.

And to answer truthfully, probably not. But that is not to be a mojor problem, because, again, there is a mass community of non-Jews. The exact process? I don't know it, I never had to go through it. But you realize now that you're grasping at straws, don't you? first you hint that living moving to Israel is nearly impossible if you're not Jews, now "Oh, it's possible, but very difficult".

Keep this rate, and you might actually come to the truth at some point.
You are completely dodging the question. This thread is about equal rights. Is the process for non-Jews the same for moving to Israel as it is for Jewish people? Yes or no.
Equal rights do not apply to non citizens, dufus. A country has the right to decide who it wants to allow inside its borders and how many.
Yes Israel has chosen to be a pseudo-Jewish theocracy, and to live with the problems it brings. So in response to the OP, no, Arabs are not treated equally.

You don't just throw "theocracy" into the argument without even realizing what it means.

As an Israeli, I can trash Judaism every day and night in newspapers, TV and radio, and I won't get arrested.

As and Israeli, I can go undercover, with "the girls" out, with a "do me" skirt, out in public, and I won't get arrested.

As an Israeli girl, I can kiss another girl in public, and I won't get arrested. Or tossed off a roof.

As an Israeli non-religious person, I can argue for hours with an Ultra-Orthodox person about weather God exists or not, and nobody will think "blasphemy!" on me, because it's ok to have open discussions.

As an Israeli, I can say all religious people are idiots, and nobody will give a ****.

So don't talk about "theocracy"! you know nothing about it.
 
What I don't understand is why no Arab country will grant their Palestinians a right of return. And why they had to massacre their Palestinians by the tens of thousands & leave tens of thousands of others as refugees? Is it possible the Arab countries do not see their Palestinian brothers as friendly, peaceful & life loving?
I guess they just hate anybody in general that lives in the blood soaked "holy" land

Israel has made a lasting peace with Egypt, Jordan & Saudi Arabia while the Palestinians have not made peace with any Arab nation.
What Arab nation is Palestine at war with?

Don't mind MJB.
 
When was the last time an Arab wanted to move to Israel from any Arab state?

How should I know? But they could if they wanted to. Right? Right?!

BTW, There are many who can move to Israel without being Jews. Israel has a large Russian non-Jewish community who are citizens of Israel.

Oh that's cool. So if a non-Jewish Russian wanted to move to Israel now, it would be the same process as for a Jewish person. Right? Right?!

What's with the "Right? Right?!" thing? it makes you sound weird.

And to answer truthfully, probably not. But that is not to be a mojor problem, because, again, there is a mass community of non-Jews. The exact process? I don't know it, I never had to go through it. But you realize now that you're grasping at straws, don't you? first you hint that living moving to Israel is nearly impossible if you're not Jews, now "Oh, it's possible, but very difficult".

Keep this rate, and you might actually come to the truth at some point.
You are completely dodging the question. This thread is about equal rights. Is the process for non-Jews the same for moving to Israel as it is for Jewish people? Yes or no.

Probably not. And I answered that. You just keep coming back to the same issue. Read my posts.

And if we're pointing out "descriminations" as you so much love them, I will only mention that my yearly college payments, originally, were about 40% more expansive than the Arab yearly costs. Why? because college for Arabs in my college was cheaper. For no logical reason.

Oy, those horrible Jews.
Off topic. I don't know anyhing about your college.

Your answer "probably not," is incorrect. The correct answer is "no."
 
When was the last time an Arab wanted to move to Israel from any Arab state?

How should I know? But they could if they wanted to. Right? Right?!

BTW, There are many who can move to Israel without being Jews. Israel has a large Russian non-Jewish community who are citizens of Israel.

Oh that's cool. So if a non-Jewish Russian wanted to move to Israel now, it would be the same process as for a Jewish person. Right? Right?!

What's with the "Right? Right?!" thing? it makes you sound weird.

And to answer truthfully, probably not. But that is not to be a mojor problem, because, again, there is a mass community of non-Jews. The exact process? I don't know it, I never had to go through it. But you realize now that you're grasping at straws, don't you? first you hint that living moving to Israel is nearly impossible if you're not Jews, now "Oh, it's possible, but very difficult".

Keep this rate, and you might actually come to the truth at some point.
You are completely dodging the question. This thread is about equal rights. Is the process for non-Jews the same for moving to Israel as it is for Jewish people? Yes or no.
Equal rights do not apply to non citizens, dufus. A country has the right to decide who it wants to allow inside its borders and how many.
Yes Israel has chosen to be a pseudo-Jewish theocracy, and to live with the problems it brings. So in response to the OP, no, Arabs are not treated equally.

Can you bring an actual proof to that, or immigration policies is the best you can offer?
 
When was the last time an Arab wanted to move to Israel from any Arab state?

How should I know? But they could if they wanted to. Right? Right?!

BTW, There are many who can move to Israel without being Jews. Israel has a large Russian non-Jewish community who are citizens of Israel.

Oh that's cool. So if a non-Jewish Russian wanted to move to Israel now, it would be the same process as for a Jewish person. Right? Right?!

What's with the "Right? Right?!" thing? it makes you sound weird.

And to answer truthfully, probably not. But that is not to be a mojor problem, because, again, there is a mass community of non-Jews. The exact process? I don't know it, I never had to go through it. But you realize now that you're grasping at straws, don't you? first you hint that living moving to Israel is nearly impossible if you're not Jews, now "Oh, it's possible, but very difficult".

Keep this rate, and you might actually come to the truth at some point.
You are completely dodging the question. This thread is about equal rights. Is the process for non-Jews the same for moving to Israel as it is for Jewish people? Yes or no.

Probably not. And I answered that. You just keep coming back to the same issue. Read my posts.

And if we're pointing out "descriminations" as you so much love them, I will only mention that my yearly college payments, originally, were about 40% more expansive than the Arab yearly costs. Why? because college for Arabs in my college was cheaper. For no logical reason.

Oy, those horrible Jews.
Off topic. I don't know anyhing about your college.

Not really off topic. We were discussing descrimination and that's actually a classic example. But ok, It's not something I can really prove, so we will leave it. I'm still waiting for you to being any actual ground to your claims.
 
How should I know? But they could if they wanted to. Right? Right?!

Oh that's cool. So if a non-Jewish Russian wanted to move to Israel now, it would be the same process as for a Jewish person. Right? Right?!

What's with the "Right? Right?!" thing? it makes you sound weird.

And to answer truthfully, probably not. But that is not to be a mojor problem, because, again, there is a mass community of non-Jews. The exact process? I don't know it, I never had to go through it. But you realize now that you're grasping at straws, don't you? first you hint that living moving to Israel is nearly impossible if you're not Jews, now "Oh, it's possible, but very difficult".

Keep this rate, and you might actually come to the truth at some point.
You are completely dodging the question. This thread is about equal rights. Is the process for non-Jews the same for moving to Israel as it is for Jewish people? Yes or no.
Equal rights do not apply to non citizens, dufus. A country has the right to decide who it wants to allow inside its borders and how many.
Yes Israel has chosen to be a pseudo-Jewish theocracy, and to live with the problems it brings. So in response to the OP, no, Arabs are not treated equally.

You don't just throw "theocracy" into the argument without even realizing what it means.

As an Israeli, I can trash Judaism every day and night in newspapers, TV and radio, and I won't get arrested.

As and Israeli, I can go undercover, with "the girls" out, with a "do me" skirt, out in public, and I won't get arrested.

As an Israeli girl, I can kiss another girl in public, and I won't get arrested. Or tossed off a roof.

As an Israeli non-religious person, I can argue for hours with an Ultra-Orthodox person about weather God exists or not, and nobody will think "blasphemy!" on me, because it's ok to have open discussions.

As an Israeli, I can say all religious people are idiots, and nobody will give a ****.

So don't talk about "theocracy"! you know nothing about it.
I said "pseudo" Theocracy, considering that Israel labels itself a Jewish state and actively discourages non-Jews from living there
 
What's with the "Right? Right?!" thing? it makes you sound weird.

And to answer truthfully, probably not. But that is not to be a mojor problem, because, again, there is a mass community of non-Jews. The exact process? I don't know it, I never had to go through it. But you realize now that you're grasping at straws, don't you? first you hint that living moving to Israel is nearly impossible if you're not Jews, now "Oh, it's possible, but very difficult".

Keep this rate, and you might actually come to the truth at some point.
You are completely dodging the question. This thread is about equal rights. Is the process for non-Jews the same for moving to Israel as it is for Jewish people? Yes or no.
Equal rights do not apply to non citizens, dufus. A country has the right to decide who it wants to allow inside its borders and how many.
Yes Israel has chosen to be a pseudo-Jewish theocracy, and to live with the problems it brings. So in response to the OP, no, Arabs are not treated equally.

Israel is not a Theocracy, Pseudo or not.

The Arabs who live in Israel and chosen to become citizens of that country, and more and more of them are choosing to do so, are in total disagreement of what you are saying.

You seem to be suffering from the same illness as so many anti Israel posters do around here.

You know N-O-T-H-I-N-G about Israel. You come on the thread with
pre disposed assumptions and ideas about Jews and Israel, and that is basically what is coming out of all of your posts.

Do the right research, or GO to Israel and meet with Israeli Arab citizens and others.

But STOP slandering, defaming, delegitimizing Israel when you know nothing about her, except for what you have heard in church, read in your favorite non favorable to Israel books and sites, or any other source where you derives this total out of this world assumption you are definitely living under.

You do not seem to know what EQUAL RIGHTS means.

Be it about voting. Going to school. Getting a job. Being able to travel, et, etc which Jews in Europe and Muslim conquered areas always found themselves under.

Or for that matter, all the rights all the Muslim women, children and those who do not agree with their governments are under at this very moment..

Try not to smear Israel and Jews with your prejudices, and we shall arrive to a decent conversation.
You do not seem to know what EQUAL RIGHTS means. it means all people have the same rights, as in EQUAL
An israel Arab is not free to bring a spouse into israel, while a jew, any jew, can bring in a foreign born spouse in

More than one Palestinians who were "united" in this "equal" way you refer to, were behind terror attacks. So their allowences stopped. A natural response to terrorism.
 
How should I know? But they could if they wanted to. Right? Right?!

Oh that's cool. So if a non-Jewish Russian wanted to move to Israel now, it would be the same process as for a Jewish person. Right? Right?!

What's with the "Right? Right?!" thing? it makes you sound weird.

And to answer truthfully, probably not. But that is not to be a mojor problem, because, again, there is a mass community of non-Jews. The exact process? I don't know it, I never had to go through it. But you realize now that you're grasping at straws, don't you? first you hint that living moving to Israel is nearly impossible if you're not Jews, now "Oh, it's possible, but very difficult".

Keep this rate, and you might actually come to the truth at some point.
You are completely dodging the question. This thread is about equal rights. Is the process for non-Jews the same for moving to Israel as it is for Jewish people? Yes or no.

Probably not. And I answered that. You just keep coming back to the same issue. Read my posts.

And if we're pointing out "descriminations" as you so much love them, I will only mention that my yearly college payments, originally, were about 40% more expansive than the Arab yearly costs. Why? because college for Arabs in my college was cheaper. For no logical reason.

Oy, those horrible Jews.
Off topic. I don't know anyhing about your college.

Not really off topic. We were discussing descrimination and that's actually a classic example. But ok, It's not something I can really prove, so we will leave it. I'm still waiting for you to being any actual ground to your claims.
Are you arguing now that a non-Jewish person undergoes the same process as a Jewish person when trying to move into Israel to obtain citizenship?
 
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What's with the "Right? Right?!" thing? it makes you sound weird.

And to answer truthfully, probably not. But that is not to be a mojor problem, because, again, there is a mass community of non-Jews. The exact process? I don't know it, I never had to go through it. But you realize now that you're grasping at straws, don't you? first you hint that living moving to Israel is nearly impossible if you're not Jews, now "Oh, it's possible, but very difficult".

Keep this rate, and you might actually come to the truth at some point.
You are completely dodging the question. This thread is about equal rights. Is the process for non-Jews the same for moving to Israel as it is for Jewish people? Yes or no.
Equal rights do not apply to non citizens, dufus. A country has the right to decide who it wants to allow inside its borders and how many.
Yes Israel has chosen to be a pseudo-Jewish theocracy, and to live with the problems it brings. So in response to the OP, no, Arabs are not treated equally.

You don't just throw "theocracy" into the argument without even realizing what it means.

As an Israeli, I can trash Judaism every day and night in newspapers, TV and radio, and I won't get arrested.

As and Israeli, I can go undercover, with "the girls" out, with a "do me" skirt, out in public, and I won't get arrested.

As an Israeli girl, I can kiss another girl in public, and I won't get arrested. Or tossed off a roof.

As an Israeli non-religious person, I can argue for hours with an Ultra-Orthodox person about weather God exists or not, and nobody will think "blasphemy!" on me, because it's ok to have open discussions.

As an Israeli, I can say all religious people are idiots, and nobody will give a ****.

So don't talk about "theocracy"! you know nothing about it.
I said "pseudo" Theocracy, considering that Israel labels itself a Jewish state and actively discourages non-Jews from living there

What is wrong with the term of Jewish state?
 
What's with the "Right? Right?!" thing? it makes you sound weird.

And to answer truthfully, probably not. But that is not to be a mojor problem, because, again, there is a mass community of non-Jews. The exact process? I don't know it, I never had to go through it. But you realize now that you're grasping at straws, don't you? first you hint that living moving to Israel is nearly impossible if you're not Jews, now "Oh, it's possible, but very difficult".

Keep this rate, and you might actually come to the truth at some point.
You are completely dodging the question. This thread is about equal rights. Is the process for non-Jews the same for moving to Israel as it is for Jewish people? Yes or no.

Probably not. And I answered that. You just keep coming back to the same issue. Read my posts.

And if we're pointing out "descriminations" as you so much love them, I will only mention that my yearly college payments, originally, were about 40% more expansive than the Arab yearly costs. Why? because college for Arabs in my college was cheaper. For no logical reason.

Oy, those horrible Jews.
Off topic. I don't know anyhing about your college.

Not really off topic. We were discussing descrimination and that's actually a classic example. But ok, It's not something I can really prove, so we will leave it. I'm still waiting for you to being any actual ground to your claims.
Are you arguing now that a non-Jewish person undergoes the same process as a Jewish person when trying to move into Israel to obtain citizenship?

Didn't I asnwer that question already? Pretty sure I did.
 
When was the last time an Arab wanted to move to Israel from any Arab state?

How should I know? But they could if they wanted to. Right? Right?!

BTW, There are many who can move to Israel without being Jews. Israel has a large Russian non-Jewish community who are citizens of Israel.

Oh that's cool. So if a non-Jewish Russian wanted to move to Israel now, it would be the same process as for a Jewish person. Right? Right?!

What's with the "Right? Right?!" thing? it makes you sound weird.

And to answer truthfully, probably not. But that is not to be a mojor problem, because, again, there is a mass community of non-Jews. The exact process? I don't know it, I never had to go through it. But you realize now that you're grasping at straws, don't you? first you hint that living moving to Israel is nearly impossible if you're not Jews, now "Oh, it's possible, but very difficult".

Keep this rate, and you might actually come to the truth at some point.
You are completely dodging the question. This thread is about equal rights. Is the process for non-Jews the same for moving to Israel as it is for Jewish people? Yes or no.

Probably not. And I answered that. You just keep coming back to the same issue. Read my posts.

And if we're pointing out "descriminations" as you so much love them, I will only mention that my yearly college payments, originally, were about 40% more expansive than the Arab yearly costs. Why? because college for Arabs in my college was cheaper. For no logical reason.

Oy, those horrible Jews.
Off topic. I don't know anyhing about your college.

Your answer "probably not," is incorrect. The correct answer is "no."

The topic is equal rights so why is college or job opportunities or health care off-topic? You don't make any sense. But at least you admitted that you know nothing about Life in Israel.
 
There are dozens and dozens of nations which have preferential immigration policies for people with ancestry from that nation. It's exceedingly common and accepted practice. Yet no one ever sees a problem with it except when it's the Jooooooos.
 

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