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Who is the best GOP alternative to Trump in 2024?

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If you like him, you might want to check out the LP Mises Caucus (if you haven't already), they're starting to gain some serious traction within the LP. The LP has been fucked up for years but the Mises folks are really starting to clean things up ( Libertarian Party Mises Caucus ).

I would also recommend checking out some of Napolitano's lecturers at the Mises Institute, he's an excellent presenter, especially on Natural Law Theory (bunch of 'em available on YouTube, Odysee or at Mises Institute ).

Just to add to this, the 2021 Mises University live streams (July 18-24) have all been uploaded to YT now. 46 streams in total.

Recordings, of course, since they were carried by Odysee this year.

It was a full event, as usual.

View the full schedule here for listing of topical content.

YT uploads - https://www.youtube.com/c/misesmedia/videos

The required reading prior to attending - Mises University Schedule, Accommodations, Airport & Required Reading | Mises Institute (linked for informational purposes)


Anyway. Putting that aside, I fully agree with you thought there about how monumentally messed up the LP have been for so long. I've never been a fan of their leadership to be honest.

Glad to see so many of them becoming interested in the Mises Institute, though.
 
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Governor Kristi Noem.
 

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Pelosi needs to subpoena Kevin McCarthy and force him to testify under oath.

When you called Trump during the insurrection and demanded he do something, how did he respond?

What was discussed during your private meetings with Trump?
 

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Evan McMullen. He's smart, well-educated and is well qualified by his background and work history. He is also decent and self disciplined.
Of course. A career government bureaucrat guy saying he's a Republican that voted for Biden. Typical.
 

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Pelosi needs to subpoena Kevin McCarthy and force him to testify under oath.

When you called Trump during the insurrection and demanded he do something, how did he respond?

What was discussed during your private meetings with Trump?
Pelosi should be put up against a wall and shot.
 

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You are disgusting.. That's typical Trump talk. He's all about stupidity and violence too.
Lie. You Democrats are experts at lying.
 

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Worlds of difference between values and principles....right? LOL.
Yes, especially when we’re talking about STATED principles and the disparity between what’s stated and ACTIONS.

Now go back and read what I ACTUALLY WROTE instead of what the hyper-partisan voices in your head are telling you I wrote.
 

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Look at McMullen's career experience. Do you actually prefer a game show host who can't read?

Evan McMullin - Wikipedia
Big government leftist bureaucrat. Anyone that voted for a washed up demented politician isn't very smart.
 

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Lie. President Trump told them to be peaceful. Why do you lie?

He did?

Then why did he attack Mike Pence‘s patriotism while the mob was attacking the Capitol?

How did the TRUMP mob respond to Trumps tweet?
Hang Mike Pence
 

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Look at McMullen's career experience. Do you actually prefer a game show host who can't read?

Evan McMullin - Wikipedia


How does that qualify him for the office of Presidential Nominee of the Republican Party?

Traditionally, the position goes to someone with long service to the party like Good Old Bob Dole or McCain, and is content to run and lose with dignity.
 
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Pence has no interest in primarying in The Donald, just like Sleepy Joe had no interest in primarying Obama in 2012.

I need to explain that my "funny" emoji I marked on your post is nothing against what you wrote. It is just the result of my imagination running away and having a mental image of a Pence vs Biden election season leaving us all in a comatose state. Not a lot of energy there between these two.
 

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Yes, especially when we’re talking about STATED principles and the disparity between what’s stated and ACTIONS.

Now go back and read what I ACTUALLY WROTE instead of what the hyper-partisan voices in your head are telling you I wrote.

No need.

Trump is garbage.
1/2 of the GOP want the piece of garbage as their president (in a poll). That number gets up in to the high 90's if he's on the ballot in 2024.

What you're talking about aren't principles...they're hobbies if you're voting for someone who embodies none of the principles.
 

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He did?

Then why did he attack Mike Pence‘s patriotism while the mob was attacking the Capitol?

How did the TRUMP mob respond to Trumps tweet?
Hang Mike Pence
Show us President Trump's words on that day inciting violence and insurrection. Liar.
 

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Obviously you haven't been paying any attention to the big crowds at Trump's rallies.
A rabid and extreme fanbase of zealots does not translate into broad support. If anything, this cult will branch off from the GOP.
 

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No need.

Trump is garbage.
1/2 of the GOP want the piece of garbage as their president (in a poll). That number gets up in to the high 90's if he's on the ballot in 2024.

What you're talking about aren't principles...they're hobbies if you're voting for someone who embodies none of the principles.


What I don't get is people who say they are conservatives or Republicans that don't want to offer an alternative to the Trumpster.

Its fine that socialist Democrats hate Trump but instead support their man Sleepy Joe. But nevertrumper Republicans are a real zero. They have nothing to offer.
 

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I suspect that, assuming COVID doesn't wreck his state and he isn't able to blame it on someone else, DeSantis has the inside track right now, by far.

But it's getting tougher to believe Trump won't run. And DeSantis and the rest know that he'll ruin their careers if they run against him.
I don't think Trump will actually run again. He's doing his grievance tour raising money. And to me anyway he seems more irrationally unhinged than before. He actually said his grievance cost Ga two gop senators. (no shit! but he admits it as somehow vindicating him because gopers didn't show up to vote for gopers who had supported HIM)

But, imo, he'll demand the gop defer to him as the actual leader of the party, and to demand the nominee run on the platform of the election was stolen from him in 2020```
 

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