Who Is Occupying Who's Land?

Monte....no offense but every point you have made has been completely shot down. Okay if you want to defend the Arabs...but history is not on your side.

Btw....according to the Koran non-Muslims are only presented three options. 1. Convert. 2. Become a subjugated people and pay a jizya. 3. Or be killed.

None of those sound real appealing to me....how about to you?


Jizya - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

"every point you made has been completely shut down"

Exactly, I've been telling him this for a while now. Yet he still runs around spewing the same lies. It says a lot about someones agenda when they need to repeat the same lies that have been dismantled numerous times

I suspect the biggest problem with Monte is his lack of ability to think issues through rationally on his own. Any fool can find links to support any position on any issue. But unless one can think rationally to sort out the truth, he or she is worthless to any rational discussion.
 
Monte....no offense but every point you have made has been completely shot down. Okay if you want to defend the Arabs...but history is not on your side.

Btw....according to the Koran non-Muslims are only presented three options. 1. Convert. 2. Become a subjugated people and pay a jizya. 3. Or be killed.

None of those sound real appealing to me....how about to you?


Jizya - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

"every point you made has been completely shut down"

Exactly, I've been telling him this for a while now. Yet he still runs around spewing the same lies. It says a lot about someones agenda when they need to repeat the same lies that have been dismantled numerous times

I suspect the biggest problem with Monte is his lack of ability to think issues through rationally on his own. Any fool can find links to support any position on any issue. But unless one can think rationally to sort out the truth, he or she is worthless to any rational discussion.


The amount of propaganda that you Israel Firsters have succumbed to have made it impossible for you to recognize propaganda when it slams you in the face. Historical fact which negates every propaganda point you people present is ignored.

Even logic doesn't work. One wonders how the Reconquista was possible given that all Iberians were, according to you, forced to convert.

Taking parts of the Old Testament or the Koran and making sweeping generalizations based on those parts shows how certain minds can be molded through propaganda.

Anyway, as far as the Koran goes, parts seem to promote a live and let live position:

Say: O disbelievers!
I worship not that which ye worship;
Nor worship ye that which I worship.
And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.
Qur'an 109:1-6
 
Monte....no offense but every point you have made has been completely shot down. Okay if you want to defend the Arabs...but history is not on your side.

Btw....according to the Koran non-Muslims are only presented three options. 1. Convert. 2. Become a subjugated people and pay a jizya. 3. Or be killed.

None of those sound real appealing to me....how about to you?


Jizya - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

"every point you made has been completely shut down"

Exactly, I've been telling him this for a while now. Yet he still runs around spewing the same lies. It says a lot about someones agenda when they need to repeat the same lies that have been dismantled numerous times

I suspect the biggest problem with Monte is his lack of ability to think issues through rationally on his own. Any fool can find links to support any position on any issue. But unless one can think rationally to sort out the truth, he or she is worthless to any rational discussion.


The amount of propaganda that you Israel Firsters have succumbed to have made it impossible for you to recognize propaganda when it slams you in the face. Historical fact which negates every propaganda point you people present is ignored.

Even logic doesn't work. One wonders how the Reconquista was possible given that all Iberians were, according to you, forced to convert.

Taking parts of the Old Testament or the Koran and making sweeping generalizations based on those parts shows how certain minds can be molded through propaganda.

Anyway, as far as the Koran goes, parts seem to promote a live and let live position:

Say: O disbelievers!
I worship not that which ye worship;
Nor worship ye that which I worship.
And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.
Qur'an 109:1-6

Here we go again. The propaganda machine accusing others of posting propaganda.
BTW, Monti, you still never backed up your claim that Jews killed Arabs before Arabs killed Jews. I posted SPECIFIC incidents with links but you have yet to prove your point
 
Monte....no offense but every point you have made has been completely shot down. Okay if you want to defend the Arabs...but history is not on your side.

Btw....according to the Koran non-Muslims are only presented three options. 1. Convert. 2. Become a subjugated people and pay a jizya. 3. Or be killed.

None of those sound real appealing to me....how about to you?


Jizya - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

"every point you made has been completely shut down"

Exactly, I've been telling him this for a while now. Yet he still runs around spewing the same lies. It says a lot about someones agenda when they need to repeat the same lies that have been dismantled numerous times

I suspect the biggest problem with Monte is his lack of ability to think issues through rationally on his own. Any fool can find links to support any position on any issue. But unless one can think rationally to sort out the truth, he or she is worthless to any rational discussion.

When a person needs to consistently lie, even after those lies have been dismantled with indisputable evidence, it sure says a lot about their agenda i.e Monti.

Lying, distorting history and posting non stop propaganda; it's the pro Palestinian way.
 
The amount of propaganda that you Israel Firsters have succumbed to have made it impossible for you to recognize propaganda when it slams you in the face. Historical fact which negates every propaganda point you people present is ignored.
Was it a joke?
 
Monte....no offense but every point you have made has been completely shot down. Okay if you want to defend the Arabs...but history is not on your side.

Btw....according to the Koran non-Muslims are only presented three options. 1. Convert. 2. Become a subjugated people and pay a jizya. 3. Or be killed.

None of those sound real appealing to me....how about to you?


Jizya - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

"every point you made has been completely shut down"

Exactly, I've been telling him this for a while now. Yet he still runs around spewing the same lies. It says a lot about someones agenda when they need to repeat the same lies that have been dismantled numerous times

I suspect the biggest problem with Monte is his lack of ability to think issues through rationally on his own. Any fool can find links to support any position on any issue. But unless one can think rationally to sort out the truth, he or she is worthless to any rational discussion.

Monte would be shot down in flames in a logical debate without using some biased links.
 
Monte....no offense but every point you have made has been completely shot down. Okay if you want to defend the Arabs...but history is not on your side.

Btw....according to the Koran non-Muslims are only presented three options. 1. Convert. 2. Become a subjugated people and pay a jizya. 3. Or be killed.

None of those sound real appealing to me....how about to you?


Jizya - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

"every point you made has been completely shut down"

Exactly, I've been telling him this for a while now. Yet he still runs around spewing the same lies. It says a lot about someones agenda when they need to repeat the same lies that have been dismantled numerous times

I suspect the biggest problem with Monte is his lack of ability to think issues through rationally on his own. Any fool can find links to support any position on any issue. But unless one can think rationally to sort out the truth, he or she is worthless to any rational discussion.


The amount of propaganda that you Israel Firsters have succumbed to have made it impossible for you to recognize propaganda when it slams you in the face. Historical fact which negates every propaganda point you people present is ignored.

Even logic doesn't work. One wonders how the Reconquista was possible given that all Iberians were, according to you, forced to convert.

Taking parts of the Old Testament or the Koran and making sweeping generalizations based on those parts shows how certain minds can be molded through propaganda.

Anyway, as far as the Koran goes, parts seem to promote a live and let live position:

Say: O disbelievers!
I worship not that which ye worship;
Nor worship ye that which I worship.
And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.
Qur'an 109:1-6

Here we go again. The propaganda machine accusing others of posting propaganda.
BTW, Monti, you still never backed up your claim that Jews killed Arabs before Arabs killed Jews. I posted SPECIFIC incidents with links but you have yet to prove your point

Oh, that's right.

Unfortunately it's from a book and probably not on the internet but I have scanned a page which discusses how the conflict began very early on with Jews walking around with guns.

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Monte....no offense but every point you have made has been completely shot down. Okay if you want to defend the Arabs...but history is not on your side.

Btw....according to the Koran non-Muslims are only presented three options. 1. Convert. 2. Become a subjugated people and pay a jizya. 3. Or be killed.

None of those sound real appealing to me....how about to you?


Jizya - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

"every point you made has been completely shut down"

Exactly, I've been telling him this for a while now. Yet he still runs around spewing the same lies. It says a lot about someones agenda when they need to repeat the same lies that have been dismantled numerous times

I suspect the biggest problem with Monte is his lack of ability to think issues through rationally on his own. Any fool can find links to support any position on any issue. But unless one can think rationally to sort out the truth, he or she is worthless to any rational discussion.


The amount of propaganda that you Israel Firsters have succumbed to have made it impossible for you to recognize propaganda when it slams you in the face. Historical fact which negates every propaganda point you people present is ignored.

Even logic doesn't work. One wonders how the Reconquista was possible given that all Iberians were, according to you, forced to convert.

Taking parts of the Old Testament or the Koran and making sweeping generalizations based on those parts shows how certain minds can be molded through propaganda.

Anyway, as far as the Koran goes, parts seem to promote a live and let live position:

Say: O disbelievers!
I worship not that which ye worship;
Nor worship ye that which I worship.
And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.
Qur'an 109:1-6

Here we go again. The propaganda machine accusing others of posting propaganda.
BTW, Monti, you still never backed up your claim that Jews killed Arabs before Arabs killed Jews. I posted SPECIFIC incidents with links but you have yet to prove your point

Oh, that's right.

Unfortunately it's from a book and probably not on the internet but I have scanned a page which discusses how the conflict began very early on with Jews walking around with guns.

View attachment 32653

Oh my goodness!! They were walking around with guns!! The horror!
There is zero evidence of any massacre/attacks by Jews against Arabs that predates Arab massacres of Jews . It's that simple.
 
Monte....no offense but every point you have made has been completely shot down. Okay if you want to defend the Arabs...but history is not on your side.

Btw....according to the Koran non-Muslims are only presented three options. 1. Convert. 2. Become a subjugated people and pay a jizya. 3. Or be killed.

None of those sound real appealing to me....how about to you?


Jizya - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

"every point you made has been completely shut down"

Exactly, I've been telling him this for a while now. Yet he still runs around spewing the same lies. It says a lot about someones agenda when they need to repeat the same lies that have been dismantled numerous times

I suspect the biggest problem with Monte is his lack of ability to think issues through rationally on his own. Any fool can find links to support any position on any issue. But unless one can think rationally to sort out the truth, he or she is worthless to any rational discussion.


The amount of propaganda that you Israel Firsters have succumbed to have made it impossible for you to recognize propaganda when it slams you in the face. Historical fact which negates every propaganda point you people present is ignored.

Even logic doesn't work. One wonders how the Reconquista was possible given that all Iberians were, according to you, forced to convert.

Taking parts of the Old Testament or the Koran and making sweeping generalizations based on those parts shows how certain minds can be molded through propaganda.

Anyway, as far as the Koran goes, parts seem to promote a live and let live position:

Say: O disbelievers!
I worship not that which ye worship;
Nor worship ye that which I worship.
And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.
Qur'an 109:1-6

Here we go again. The propaganda machine accusing others of posting propaganda.
BTW, Monti, you still never backed up your claim that Jews killed Arabs before Arabs killed Jews. I posted SPECIFIC incidents with links but you have yet to prove your point

Oh, that's right.

Unfortunately it's from a book and probably not on the internet but I have scanned a page which discusses how the conflict began very early on with Jews walking around with guns.

View attachment 32653

What's the name if this book BTW?
 
Ottoman Policy and Practice.
"every point you made has been completely shut down"

Exactly, I've been telling him this for a while now. Yet he still runs around spewing the same lies. It says a lot about someones agenda when they need to repeat the same lies that have been dismantled numerous times

I suspect the biggest problem with Monte is his lack of ability to think issues through rationally on his own. Any fool can find links to support any position on any issue. But unless one can think rationally to sort out the truth, he or she is worthless to any rational discussion.


The amount of propaganda that you Israel Firsters have succumbed to have made it impossible for you to recognize propaganda when it slams you in the face. Historical fact which negates every propaganda point you people present is ignored.

Even logic doesn't work. One wonders how the Reconquista was possible given that all Iberians were, according to you, forced to convert.

Taking parts of the Old Testament or the Koran and making sweeping generalizations based on those parts shows how certain minds can be molded through propaganda.

Anyway, as far as the Koran goes, parts seem to promote a live and let live position:

Say: O disbelievers!
I worship not that which ye worship;
Nor worship ye that which I worship.
And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.
Qur'an 109:1-6

Here we go again. The propaganda machine accusing others of posting propaganda.
BTW, Monti, you still never backed up your claim that Jews killed Arabs before Arabs killed Jews. I posted SPECIFIC incidents with links but you have yet to prove your point

Oh, that's right.

Unfortunately it's from a book and probably not on the internet but I have scanned a page which discusses how the conflict began very early on with Jews walking around with guns.

View attachment 32653

Oh my goodness!! They were walking around with guns!! The horror!
There is zero evidence of any massacre/attacks by Jews against Arabs that predates Arab massacres of Jews . It's that simple.


Yes, to shoot Fellain shepherds.
 
Ottoman Policy and Practice.
I suspect the biggest problem with Monte is his lack of ability to think issues through rationally on his own. Any fool can find links to support any position on any issue. But unless one can think rationally to sort out the truth, he or she is worthless to any rational discussion.


The amount of propaganda that you Israel Firsters have succumbed to have made it impossible for you to recognize propaganda when it slams you in the face. Historical fact which negates every propaganda point you people present is ignored.

Even logic doesn't work. One wonders how the Reconquista was possible given that all Iberians were, according to you, forced to convert.

Taking parts of the Old Testament or the Koran and making sweeping generalizations based on those parts shows how certain minds can be molded through propaganda.

Anyway, as far as the Koran goes, parts seem to promote a live and let live position:

Say: O disbelievers!
I worship not that which ye worship;
Nor worship ye that which I worship.
And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.
Qur'an 109:1-6

Here we go again. The propaganda machine accusing others of posting propaganda.
BTW, Monti, you still never backed up your claim that Jews killed Arabs before Arabs killed Jews. I posted SPECIFIC incidents with links but you have yet to prove your point

Oh, that's right.

Unfortunately it's from a book and probably not on the internet but I have scanned a page which discusses how the conflict began very early on with Jews walking around with guns.

View attachment 32653

Oh my goodness!! They were walking around with guns!! The horror!
There is zero evidence of any massacre/attacks by Jews against Arabs that predates Arab massacres of Jews . It's that simple.


Yes, to shoot Fellain shepherds.

Except you have t posted and links to any massacres against Arabs that precede the attacks against Jews.
 
The critically injured Arab subsequently died, But it really doesn't matter as the Zionist's intentions were clear:

"Vladimir Jabotinsky, a journalist, militant nationalist and father of right-wing Zionism, insisted on Jewish sovereignty over all of Palestine and Transjordan, a position known as “Revisionism.” In 1923, he produced a plan titled “The Iron Wall” which called for the submission of Palestinians through force.

Jabotsinky wrote: “Every indigenous people will resist alien settlers as long as they see any hope of ridding themselves of the danger of foreign settlement. This is how the Arabs will behave and go on behaving so long as they possess a gleam of hope that they can prevent ‘Palestine’ from becoming the Land of Israel … nothing in the world can cause them to relinquish this hope, precisely because they are not a rabble but a living people … All colonization must continue in defiance of the will of the native population. Therefore, it can continue and develop only under the shield of force…”

Article Details
 
"every point you made has been completely shut down"

Exactly, I've been telling him this for a while now. Yet he still runs around spewing the same lies. It says a lot about someones agenda when they need to repeat the same lies that have been dismantled numerous times

I suspect the biggest problem with Monte is his lack of ability to think issues through rationally on his own. Any fool can find links to support any position on any issue. But unless one can think rationally to sort out the truth, he or she is worthless to any rational discussion.


The amount of propaganda that you Israel Firsters have succumbed to have made it impossible for you to recognize propaganda when it slams you in the face. Historical fact which negates every propaganda point you people present is ignored.

Even logic doesn't work. One wonders how the Reconquista was possible given that all Iberians were, according to you, forced to convert.

Taking parts of the Old Testament or the Koran and making sweeping generalizations based on those parts shows how certain minds can be molded through propaganda.

Anyway, as far as the Koran goes, parts seem to promote a live and let live position:

Say: O disbelievers!
I worship not that which ye worship;
Nor worship ye that which I worship.
And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.
Qur'an 109:1-6

Here we go again. The propaganda machine accusing others of posting propaganda.
BTW, Monti, you still never backed up your claim that Jews killed Arabs before Arabs killed Jews. I posted SPECIFIC incidents with links but you have yet to prove your point

Oh, that's right.

Unfortunately it's from a book and probably not on the internet but I have scanned a page which discusses how the conflict began very early on with Jews walking around with guns.

View attachment 32653

Oh my goodness!! They were walking around with guns!! The horror!
There is zero evidence of any massacre/attacks by Jews against Arabs that predates Arab massacres of Jews . It's that simple.


Good point. The first DOCUMENTED massacre was that of Hebron in 1929. But don't let Monte know that. He can't deal with documented facts & I fear if he learns them he will leave us. Then where would we go for fun & laughs?
 
I suspect the biggest problem with Monte is his lack of ability to think issues through rationally on his own. Any fool can find links to support any position on any issue. But unless one can think rationally to sort out the truth, he or she is worthless to any rational discussion.


The amount of propaganda that you Israel Firsters have succumbed to have made it impossible for you to recognize propaganda when it slams you in the face. Historical fact which negates every propaganda point you people present is ignored.

Even logic doesn't work. One wonders how the Reconquista was possible given that all Iberians were, according to you, forced to convert.

Taking parts of the Old Testament or the Koran and making sweeping generalizations based on those parts shows how certain minds can be molded through propaganda.

Anyway, as far as the Koran goes, parts seem to promote a live and let live position:

Say: O disbelievers!
I worship not that which ye worship;
Nor worship ye that which I worship.
And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.
Qur'an 109:1-6

Here we go again. The propaganda machine accusing others of posting propaganda.
BTW, Monti, you still never backed up your claim that Jews killed Arabs before Arabs killed Jews. I posted SPECIFIC incidents with links but you have yet to prove your point

Oh, that's right.

Unfortunately it's from a book and probably not on the internet but I have scanned a page which discusses how the conflict began very early on with Jews walking around with guns.

View attachment 32653

Oh my goodness!! They were walking around with guns!! The horror!
There is zero evidence of any massacre/attacks by Jews against Arabs that predates Arab massacres of Jews . It's that simple.


Good point. The first DOCUMENTED massacre was that of Hebron in 1929. But don't let Monte know that. He can't deal with documented facts & I fear if he learns them he will leave us. Then where would we go for fun & laughs?

Of course, if you neglect the Ottoman period, before the Mandate, you would come to that conclusion.
 
The amount of propaganda that you Israel Firsters have succumbed to have made it impossible for you to recognize propaganda when it slams you in the face. Historical fact which negates every propaganda point you people present is ignored.

Even logic doesn't work. One wonders how the Reconquista was possible given that all Iberians were, according to you, forced to convert.

Taking parts of the Old Testament or the Koran and making sweeping generalizations based on those parts shows how certain minds can be molded through propaganda.

Anyway, as far as the Koran goes, parts seem to promote a live and let live position:

Say: O disbelievers!
I worship not that which ye worship;
Nor worship ye that which I worship.
And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.
Qur'an 109:1-6

Here we go again. The propaganda machine accusing others of posting propaganda.
BTW, Monti, you still never backed up your claim that Jews killed Arabs before Arabs killed Jews. I posted SPECIFIC incidents with links but you have yet to prove your point

Oh, that's right.

Unfortunately it's from a book and probably not on the internet but I have scanned a page which discusses how the conflict began very early on with Jews walking around with guns.

View attachment 32653

Oh my goodness!! They were walking around with guns!! The horror!
There is zero evidence of any massacre/attacks by Jews against Arabs that predates Arab massacres of Jews . It's that simple.


Good point. The first DOCUMENTED massacre was that of Hebron in 1929. But don't let Monte know that. He can't deal with documented facts & I fear if he learns them he will leave us. Then where would we go for fun & laughs?

Of course, if you neglect the Ottoman period, before the Mandate, you would come to that conclusion.

Actually, Arab massacred Jews even before the British Mandate:

1834 Safed pogrom - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

1834 Hebron massacre - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia (This was Egyptians killing Jews)

1838 Druze attack on Safed - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
 
Israel has the capability to kill all the Palestinians but lack the desire. The Palestinians have the desire to kill all the Israeli's but lack the capability. So on & on the conflict goes with Palestinians now squatting on Israel's land for generations.
 
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Israel has the capability to kill all the Palestinians but lack the desire. The Palestinians have the desire to kill all the Israeli's but lack the capability. So on & on the conflict goes with Palestinians now squatting on Israel's land for generations.

Israel wants to kill or ethnically cleanse all the non-Jews, and would if they thought they could get away with it without the world sanctioning the place back to the stone age. It's the Jews that are squatting on the land of the Christians and Muslims.
 
Here we go again. The propaganda machine accusing others of posting propaganda.
BTW, Monti, you still never backed up your claim that Jews killed Arabs before Arabs killed Jews. I posted SPECIFIC incidents with links but you have yet to prove your point

Oh, that's right.

Unfortunately it's from a book and probably not on the internet but I have scanned a page which discusses how the conflict began very early on with Jews walking around with guns.

View attachment 32653

Oh my goodness!! They were walking around with guns!! The horror!
There is zero evidence of any massacre/attacks by Jews against Arabs that predates Arab massacres of Jews . It's that simple.


Good point. The first DOCUMENTED massacre was that of Hebron in 1929. But don't let Monte know that. He can't deal with documented facts & I fear if he learns them he will leave us. Then where would we go for fun & laughs?

Of course, if you neglect the Ottoman period, before the Mandate, you would come to that conclusion.

Actually, Arab massacred Jews even before the British Mandate:

1834 Safed pogrom - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

1834 Hebron massacre - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia (This was Egyptians killing Jews)

1838 Druze attack on Safed - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

All Hasbara or CAMERA edits. Good move.
 
Here we go again. The propaganda machine accusing others of posting propaganda.
BTW, Monti, you still never backed up your claim that Jews killed Arabs before Arabs killed Jews. I posted SPECIFIC incidents with links but you have yet to prove your point

Oh, that's right.

Unfortunately it's from a book and probably not on the internet but I have scanned a page which discusses how the conflict began very early on with Jews walking around with guns.

View attachment 32653

Oh my goodness!! They were walking around with guns!! The horror!
There is zero evidence of any massacre/attacks by Jews against Arabs that predates Arab massacres of Jews . It's that simple.


Good point. The first DOCUMENTED massacre was that of Hebron in 1929. But don't let Monte know that. He can't deal with documented facts & I fear if he learns them he will leave us. Then where would we go for fun & laughs?

Of course, if you neglect the Ottoman period, before the Mandate, you would come to that conclusion.

Actually, Arab massacred Jews even before the British Mandate:

1834 Safed pogrom - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

1834 Hebron massacre - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia (This was Egyptians killing Jews)

1838 Druze attack on Safed - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


Are those Hasbara or CAMERA edits? Don't send me Wiki links related to Jews or Israel, they are all tainted.

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Israel has the capability to kill all the Palestinians but lack the desire. The Palestinians have the desire to kill all the Israeli's but lack the capability. So on & on the conflict goes with Palestinians now squatting on Israel's land for generations.

Israel wants to kill or ethnically cleanse all the non-Jews, and would if they thought they could get away with it without the world sanctioning the place back to the stone age. It's the Jews that are squatting on the land of the Christians and Muslims.


Funny....but you have roughly 5,000 years of history and religious text which completely obliterates your conclusions. But nice try anyway. :)
 
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