Who here favors expanding the Supreme Court?

If RBG dies and McConnell rushes an appointment before the election in contradiction of the excuse he used in 2016 the first order of business should be to add two more justices.

Waiting to see what would happen if she dies after Trump has lost the election and Republicans lose the Senate.

I can see Republicans rushing a confirmation in 60 days in a lame duck Congress.

If it happens.......anything goes
Exactly. Hopefully democrats are finally getting the message that we need them to fight for democracy with the same zeal republicans that are trying to destroy it.

If Dems can pack the courts, why shouldn’t they do it?
What do they have to lose?
They were never moral people..............so they lose nothing......Liars think they win .....when they win by cheating...........nothing new here.......your side has always been a bunch of scum bags who piss on the Constitution for entertainment.
 
Nevertheless, the idea that taking a sledge to the coequality of the branches of government is a proportionate response to the fact that you didn't control the senate when it would have allowed a democrat president to fill a previously conservative supreme court seat?

Courts used to be outside of politics. That is no longer the case.

You are correct. Republicans held the Senate when Obama tried to nominate Garland. Too bad for Dems

Now, If Dems hold the Senate and want to add a few judges......Too bad for Republicans
 
Nevertheless, the idea that taking a sledge to the coequality of the branches of government is a proportionate response to the fact that you didn't control the senate when it would have allowed a democrat president to fill a previously conservative supreme court seat?

Courts used to be outside of politics. That is no longer the case.

You are correct. Republicans held the Senate when Obama tried to nominate Garland. Too bad for Dems

Now, If Dems hold the Senate and want to add a few judges......Too bad for Republicans
And too bad for the judicial branch. And too bad for the separation of powers.

Courts used to be outside of politics? Lol. Judges have always been appointed by politicians in this country. Also, they've always been human, and thus subject to human biases.

This is one of those good ol' days that never were concepts, just like "back when the news used to be honest".
 
Nevertheless, the idea that taking a sledge to the coequality of the branches of government is a proportionate response to the fact that you didn't control the senate when it would have allowed a democrat president to fill a previously conservative supreme court seat?

Courts used to be outside of politics. That is no longer the case.

You are correct. Republicans held the Senate when Obama tried to nominate Garland. Too bad for Dems

Now, If Dems hold the Senate and want to add a few judges......Too bad for Republicans
LOL.........hell they were political when we were kids.......if you are as old as I think you are.......you crusty old dem LSD bastard..........LOL
 
If RBG dies and McConnell rushes an appointment before the election in contradiction of the excuse he used in 2016 the first order of business should be to add two more justices.

Waiting to see what would happen if she dies after Trump has lost the election and Republicans lose the Senate.

I can see Republicans rushing a confirmation in 60 days in a lame duck Congress.

If it happens.......anything goes
Exactly. Hopefully democrats are finally getting the message that we need them to fight for democracy with the same zeal republicans that are trying to destroy it.

If Dems can pack the courts, why shouldn’t they do it?
What do they have to lose?
They were never moral people..............so they lose nothing......Liars think they win .....when they win by cheating...........nothing new here.......your side has always been a bunch of scum bags who piss on the Constitution for entertainment.

No cheating....Politics
The old days of respecting the courts are gone.

It is a new world
 
If RBG dies and McConnell rushes an appointment before the election in contradiction of the excuse he used in 2016 the first order of business should be to add two more justices.

Waiting to see what would happen if she dies after Trump has lost the election and Republicans lose the Senate.

I can see Republicans rushing a confirmation in 60 days in a lame duck Congress.

If it happens.......anything goes
Exactly. Hopefully democrats are finally getting the message that we need them to fight for democracy with the same zeal republicans that are trying to destroy it.

If Dems can pack the courts, why shouldn’t they do it?
What do they have to lose?
They were never moral people..............so they lose nothing......Liars think they win .....when they win by cheating...........nothing new here.......your side has always been a bunch of scum bags who piss on the Constitution for entertainment.

No cheating....Politics
The old days of respecting the courts are gone.

It is a new world
Yes it is.............brought to you by Socialist LSD Free love idiots who have grown up.........and infected this country with your disease..........will not end well.
 
And too bad for the judicial branch. And too bad for the separation of powers

You reap what you sow
Wow. You honestly believe that appointment games started with Garland not getting hearings?

Rewind a couple administrations, George W. Bush was the first president to have one of his judicial nominations blocked by filibuster. I'm pretty well certain that wasn't where the arms race started, either. I'm equally certain that you couldn't tell me where it did, and yet here you are telling me with all confidence that republicans started it. Lol.
 
And too bad for the judicial branch. And too bad for the separation of powers

You reap what you sow
Wow. You honestly believe that appointment games started with Garland not getting hearings?

Rewind a couple administrations, George W. Bush was the first president to have one of his judicial nominations blocked by filibuster. I'm pretty well certain that wasn't where the arms race started, either. I'm equally certain that you couldn't tell me where it did, and yet here you are telling me with all confidence that republicans started it. Lol.
Bush’s appointment received a hearing and was voted down. Bush was allowed to appoint a replacement.

Obama was not

You reap what you sow. Pack the court
 
You all cheered when Obama reminded conservatives that "elections have consequences". Yet as soon as YOU don't like the consequences, you turn the game board over and scatter the checkers all over the floor.

The difference is, Trump didn't get the most votes in the election. The people said no. Loudly. Clearly.

So, yeah, maybe it's time to scatter the checkers all over the floor when you realize the other side has been cheating all along.
 
under the Constitution, the number of Supreme Court Justices is not fixed, and Congress can change it by passing an act that is then signed by the President. Article III, Section 1, starts with a broad direction to Congress to establish the court system: “The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish.”



No reason Dems shouldn’t pack the Courts if they can.
 

Long ago during the reign of FDR the nation experienced the Progressive attack on Constitutional law known as the Court Packing Scheme. Many of you probably have never even heard of it in school because schools only cast a favorable light on Progressives such as FDR, but it happened nonetheless. Essentially, SCOTUS had just struck down FDR's New Deal in many regards and he was pissed out of his mind, so he came up with a scheme to add Supreme Court Justices who would pass his legislation. Luckily, no one else wanted to go along with this blatant attempt to subvert the checks and balances set up by the Founders that stood in FDR's way. And Americans were overwhelmingly against the idea as well. This sort of corruption is what later prompted Congress to act to limit the terms of the President, with FDR who had just achieved his third term.

However, FDR is a Progressive god to Progressives today, and they are wanting to follow in his footsteps by trying to do what he tried to do long ago. The difference today is that you have about half the populace ready to follow the DNC no matter what it does or says, as opposed to Americans back in the 1040's who were aghast at the corruption of FDR and his Court Packing Scheme. Mark my words, once back in power they will attempt this because their agenda is so radical, they will need to rewrite the Constitution with the help of their Supreme Court Justice stooges.

So who here agrees with it?

The reasoning in the article was this:

“We can’t go on like this where every time there’s a vacancy, there’s this apocalyptic ideological battle,” he added.

But how would the ideological battle change with more Supreme Court justices? It makes not sense. Essentially, the battles would rage even more as more and more would need to be appointed.


This sort of thing is what we have to look forward to with a Biden win
/----/ There would be no end to it. The USSC could end up with a hundred justices.
 
And too bad for the judicial branch. And too bad for the separation of powers

You reap what you sow
Wow. You honestly believe that appointment games started with Garland not getting hearings?

Rewind a couple administrations, George W. Bush was the first president to have one of his judicial nominations blocked by filibuster. I'm pretty well certain that wasn't where the arms race started, either. I'm equally certain that you couldn't tell me where it did, and yet here you are telling me with all confidence that republicans started it. Lol.
Bush’s appointment received a hearing and was voted down. Bush was allowed to appoint a replacement.

Obama was not

You reap what you sow. Pack the court
Yes, but it was still an unprecedented method, and a case of a senate minority preventing a nomination that actually had the votes, if not for the filibuster.

That latter distinction makes it, IMO, more significant than disallowing hearings for Garland, because with Garland it was a majority doing so AND because Garland didn't have the votes locked up. In order to paint this as even being an equally egregious break from tradition, you have to assume that Garland's hearing would definitely have swayed enough opposing party members to his cause to drive him to victory. That's a stretch and a half.
 
You all cheered when Obama reminded conservatives that "elections have consequences". Yet as soon as YOU don't like the consequences, you turn the game board over and scatter the checkers all over the floor.

The difference is, Trump didn't get the most votes in the election. The people said no. Loudly. Clearly.

So, yeah, maybe it's time to scatter the checkers all over the floor when you realize the other side has been cheating all along.
/----/ "Trump didn't get the most votes in the election. "
Hey dummy, the popular vote is a meaningless statistic when it comes to voting for president.
 
Wow. You honestly believe that appointment games started with Garland not getting hearings?

Rewind a couple administrations, George W. Bush was the first president to have one of his judicial nominations blocked by filibuster. I'm pretty well certain that wasn't where the arms race started, either. I'm equally certain that you couldn't tell me where it did, and yet here you are telling me with all confidence that republicans started it. Lol.

I'm sorry, when did this happen?

There wasn't a filibuster for Alito. That motion was defeated 72-25. What DID happen was before Bush appointed Alito, he tried to appoint a sensible moderate in Harriet Meyers, and the Flying Monkey Right lost their fucking minds...
 

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