Zone1 Who created all things?

[Paradoxical#1]

Do quicksand and riptides punish you if cautions are not heeded?

Those who believe in God know he wants us to succeed. We put God first, we love others, we honor our parents, on through the rest of the Commandments and teachings. We do not see God as a threat.

It appears it is those who hate God who see him as a threat. Have you taken any time to learn and to follow the Laws of God? How has that worked if you have?

I don't hate Thor or Ra. I don't have any evidence they exist. You saying nonbelievers hate your god assumes that we really do believe he exists. It is a nonsense argument.

 

[BS Filter]

C. S. Lewis's lie. It's like making up a story about monsters skinning you alive for eternity if you don't believe an obviously made-up story but if you force yourself to believe you get candy and ice cream as much as you want.

Good luck.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Good luck.

I don't believe in any kind of luck, either. There is only cause and effect. Would you believe something because you were told that you would be tortured if you didn't believe? That's a crazy ass way to live. Someone makes up a story about something and a crazy-ass writer named C S Lewis says he believes it and you should too or else and THAT is a good way to live your life? Really?

 

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I don't believe in any kind of luck, either. There is only cause and effect. Would you believe something because you were told that you would be tortured if you didn't believe? That's a crazy ass way to live. Someone makes up a story about something and a crazy-ass writer named C S Lewis says he believes it and you should too or else and THAT is a good way to live your life? Really?

Like you have ever read anything by C.S. Lewis.

 

[BS Filter]

I don't believe in any kind of luck, either. There is only cause and effect. Would you believe something because you were told that you would be tortured if you didn't believe? That's a crazy ass way to live. Someone makes up a story about something and a crazy-ass writer named C S Lewis says he believes it and you should too or else and THAT is a good way to live your life? Really?

I've said..."your choice". I also said "good luck". What else do you need? I'm not arguing with you.

 

[Meriweather]

I don't hate Thor or Ra. I don't have any evidence they exist. You saying nonbelievers hate your god assumes that we really do believe he exists. It is a nonsense argument.

Exactly. You are not on a Thor or Ra website which points to you being indifferent to them. You are not indifferent to God. I have family and friends who are atheists. They are so indifferent to God and religion, they cannot be found on a website discussing religion or God.

You have already expressed anger about hell. Because it scared you so badly, you developed the idea that it scares everyone else, too. It seems never to have crossed your mind that people of faith have very little fear of hell. Respect, yes--but fear, no. We are more in tune with what God has done for the world, for mankind, for us.

Something about God/religion bothers you. Indifferent, you are not. That leaves hate.

 

[onefour1]

Please show the Scripture that says Jesus is the seed of the Father.

John 1:14
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

 

[BS Filter]

John 1:14
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Your reading that verse in the light of your Mormon doctrine, not Scripture. See, this is why mormonism is false. It's called "Scripture Twisting". Scripture is clear, the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary.

 

[kjw47]

Way off the mark.

What are you talking about?

 

[kjw47]

Firstborn doesn't mean created. You've been lied to. Exodus 4:22 God says Israel is His Firstborn son. Explain that.

Jesus speak the words at Prov 8:22-Possessed( created) me as the beginning of your way. Those in darkness, when exposed twist it into oblivion and the blind believe them.

 

[kjw47]

I see no response to any link. In any event, scholars say that this was not written 200 years before. This is why you cannot rely on ancient writings. No one knows who wrote them or when. The book of Isiah was believed to have been written far earlier than it really was. Since it is not dated and no one was around to confirm when it was written, religious people at that time period wanted to create a "prophet" in order to justify their contrived beliefs and did so.

Thats pure bull. God wrote his bible through righteous men via holy spirit=100% guarantee.

 

[BS Filter]

Jesus speak the words at Prov 8:22-Possessed( created) me as the beginning of your way. Those in darkness, when exposed twist it into oblivion and the blind believe them.

You didn't answer my question. Scripture says God calls Israel His Firstborn. Explain that.

 

[onefour1]

Your reading that verse in the light of your Mormon doctrine, not Scripture. See, this is why mormonism is false. It's called "Scripture Twisting". Scripture is clear, the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary.

Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF THE FATHER IN THE FLESH. Jesus is the son of the Father and not the Holy Spirit. If the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, it was by artificial insemination using the seed of the Father. Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER:

John 1:14
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

What don't you understand about "only begotten of the Father"? It is you who is twisting scripture.

 

[BS Filter]

Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF THE FATHER IN THE FLESH. Jesus is the son of the Father and not the Holy Spirit. If the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, it was by artificial insemination using the seed of the Father. Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER:

John 1:14
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

What don't you understand about "only begotten of the Father"? It is you who is twisting scripture.

Scripture says that the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary. Is that true or false?

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Exactly. You are not on a Thor or Ra website which points to you being indifferent to them. You are not indifferent to God. I have family and friends who are atheists. They are so indifferent to God and religion, they cannot be found on a website discussing religion or God.

You have already expressed anger about hell. Because it scared you so badly, you developed the idea that it scares everyone else, too. It seems never to have crossed your mind that people of faith have very little fear of hell. Respect, yes--but fear, no. We are more in tune with what God has done for the world, for mankind, for us.

Something about God/religion bothers you. Indifferent, you are not. That leaves hate.

It makes people believe stupid things because they are afraid.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Thats pure bull. God wrote his bible through righteous men via holy spirit=100% guarantee.

I asked you before for your proof of this. A third grader could have written a book better and more logical than the Bible.

 

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A third grader could have written a book better and more logical than the Bible.

You must not be very well educated if you believe that.

The Bible is widely regarded as a literary masterpiece by many literary critics, regardless of their personal religious beliefs. While some may focus on its religious significance, many scholars recognize its literary qualities, including diverse narrative styles, poetry, and compelling stories.

Here's why the Bible is often considered a literary masterpiece:

• Influence:
  The Bible has had a profound and lasting impact on literature, art, and culture worldwide.
  
  
• Diverse Literary Forms:
  It encompasses various literary forms, such as narrative, poetry, and legal texts, showcasing a wide range of writing styles.
  
  
• Timeless Themes:
  The Bible explores universal themes of love, loss, faith, morality, and the human condition, which resonate with readers across time and cultures.
  
  
• Compelling Stories:
  Many biblical stories, like those in Genesis and Exodus, are widely recognized and retold in various forms of art.
  
  
• Linguistic Beauty:
  The King James Version (KJV) of the Bible, in particular, is celebrated for its poetic prose and powerful language.

 

[Meriweather]

What don't you understand about "only begotten of the Father"? It is you who is twisting scripture.

What definition are you using for "only begotten son"? Catholic teaching is eternally generated by the Father--i.e., not a creation of the Father.

 

[Meriweather]

It makes people believe stupid things because they are afraid.

As I have mentioned before, while that may have been true for you, it is not true for others. Also, do you see what I mean by "hate".... (your use of the word 'stupid').

 

[ding]

It makes people believe stupid things because they are afraid.

Stupid things like believing a third grader could have written a book better and more logical than the Bible?