Who Are The Palestinians?

[Challenger]

The Palestinian's home was Palestine. The Europeans are now living there. Send the Europeans back to Europe. LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

Then send the Syrians, Egyptians, Jordanians and Iranians back home as well. This would mean Israel would have about 6 million inhabitants and Palestine about 500,000 inhabitants. Are you serious about this Abdul, will you force the inhabitants to take DNA tests to determine their original homeland. What will you do when the Jews DNA shows they are related very closely to Jews from the surrounding areas. What islamomoron propaganda will you pull in that case, claim the Jews have transplanted DNA into their bodies. What about when the Palestinians are tested and found to be from other nations and recent arrivals, claim that because they are arab then they should stay.

How INSANE for you to mutter that Jews are related closely to Jews from surrounding areas...................which they are not for obvious reasons.....Your Posts Are Getting More BIZZARE by the day............................You crazy baldhead.www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uCkSGYOv8

I have posted the links showing just this from a non partisan source...............

Where?

 

[Challenger]

Don't be mistaken its known to all, some just deliberately deny it because they fear the truth, can't admit they were wrong or just a racists trying to justify their primitive emotional perspectives.
Palestinians are just Arabs, particularly hostile and stupid.

It is the Israelis that fear the truth. The whole Israeli propaganda machine is designed to counter the propagation of the facts. Calling Palestinians "just Arabs. particularly hostile and stupid", doesn't change the fact that you people are a colonial project which is well past its sale date. Any people would be hostile after being treated as you Jews have treated the Palestinians. Evicting them from their land, holding millions in outdoor prisons and murdering thousands of their women and children every 2 years or so.

As far as "stupid" well, you are a racist p.o.s. what else can said about you.

The truth is Israel is here to stay and the arab musilims are too stupid to realise this. Yes the arab muslims are stupid and extremely hostile to the point of getting themselves killed in their thousands. Still waiting for your link to the evidence that Israel was a colonial project, because it took a hell of a lot of years to get it going and of the ground. You have just described exactly what the arab muslims have done to the Jews and Christians over the last 1400 years. Why as recently as 1949 the arab muslim Palestinians evicted by force Jews from Jerusalem and the west bank stealing their homes, property and valuables. So where is the proof of these murders then Abdul, show the evidence that would stand up in court that the Israelis murder 1000's of women and children every 2 years. That means the deaths were all pre meditated and the individuals picked out beforehand by the Israelis. Killing terrorists and militia is not murder by the way it is one of the less savoury facts of war.

NOW STOP SPREADING YOUR RACIST LIES

Funny how the Palestinians kill some Israeli's & then after Israel retaliates the Pali's & their supporters ***** about how many more dead Palestinians there are than Israeli's. It's called Palestinian mentality.

No, it's called keeping a sense of proportion, of reason, of justice. Someone tries to kill you, fine. Kill them, but not their familly, their neighours, their friends and any innocent bystanders within range. Killing those who try to kill you is retaliation, killing anyone else is bestiality, otherwise called Zionist mentality.

Israel has no reason to intentionally kill innocent civilians. To think that Soldiers and pilots are sent on missions to kill non combatants is absurd. Gaza is a tiny place which is very dense. High casualties are expected.

I see the same repetitive scenario. Hamas launches rockets, Israel does no thing. Hamas launches rockets, Israel bombs one Hamas facility. Hamas increases it's rocket launching, Israel bombs another few Hamas facilities. Repeat the latter several more time. Hamas continues its rockets launching even after being warned by Israel that the will commit to a full scale assault of they don't stop.
Hamas CONTINUES launching rockets, Israel partakes in a full blown assault on Hamas and other militants, Palestinians and their supporters start whining to the world about Israeli 'aggression' claiming they started the war and all people can talk about is how many more Palestinian were killed than Israelis.
Now, I don't have a solution to the conflict, but I do have a solution that would save many many Palestinian lives; STOP LAUNCHING ROCKETS AT ISRAEL

FFS it's really simple !

Raise the sige of Gaza and the rockets will stop. Stop provoking rocket attacks by assassinating Hamas officials and the rockets will stop. Negotiate a settlement in good faith and the rockets will stop. It works both ways.

Zionist Israel has the means to launch guided precision weaponry against launch sites in Gaza, that's indisputable. Carpet bombing neighbourhoods and launching artillery barrages into suburbs demonstates an intent to kill civillians, or at the very least, a reckless disregard for the safety of civillians, both of which are war crimes.

Zionist Israel has the much vaunted Iron Dome system, so why should it need to murder 1,000's of Palestinians in order to "defend itself"?

 

[toastman]

It is the Israelis that fear the truth. The whole Israeli propaganda machine is designed to counter the propagation of the facts. Calling Palestinians "just Arabs. particularly hostile and stupid", doesn't change the fact that you people are a colonial project which is well past its sale date. Any people would be hostile after being treated as you Jews have treated the Palestinians. Evicting them from their land, holding millions in outdoor prisons and murdering thousands of their women and children every 2 years or so.

As far as "stupid" well, you are a racist p.o.s. what else can said about you.

The truth is Israel is here to stay and the arab musilims are too stupid to realise this. Yes the arab muslims are stupid and extremely hostile to the point of getting themselves killed in their thousands. Still waiting for your link to the evidence that Israel was a colonial project, because it took a hell of a lot of years to get it going and of the ground. You have just described exactly what the arab muslims have done to the Jews and Christians over the last 1400 years. Why as recently as 1949 the arab muslim Palestinians evicted by force Jews from Jerusalem and the west bank stealing their homes, property and valuables. So where is the proof of these murders then Abdul, show the evidence that would stand up in court that the Israelis murder 1000's of women and children every 2 years. That means the deaths were all pre meditated and the individuals picked out beforehand by the Israelis. Killing terrorists and militia is not murder by the way it is one of the less savoury facts of war.

NOW STOP SPREADING YOUR RACIST LIES

Funny how the Palestinians kill some Israeli's & then after Israel retaliates the Pali's & their supporters ***** about how many more dead Palestinians there are than Israeli's. It's called Palestinian mentality.

No, it's called keeping a sense of proportion, of reason, of justice. Someone tries to kill you, fine. Kill them, but not their familly, their neighours, their friends and any innocent bystanders within range. Killing those who try to kill you is retaliation, killing anyone else is bestiality, otherwise called Zionist mentality.

Israel has no reason to intentionally kill innocent civilians. To think that Soldiers and pilots are sent on missions to kill non combatants is absurd. Gaza is a tiny place which is very dense. High casualties are expected.

I see the same repetitive scenario. Hamas launches rockets, Israel does no thing. Hamas launches rockets, Israel bombs one Hamas facility. Hamas increases it's rocket launching, Israel bombs another few Hamas facilities. Repeat the latter several more time. Hamas continues its rockets launching even after being warned by Israel that the will commit to a full scale assault of they don't stop.
Hamas CONTINUES launching rockets, Israel partakes in a full blown assault on Hamas and other militants, Palestinians and their supporters start whining to the world about Israeli 'aggression' claiming they started the war and all people can talk about is how many more Palestinian were killed than Israelis.
Now, I don't have a solution to the conflict, but I do have a solution that would save many many Palestinian lives; STOP LAUNCHING ROCKETS AT ISRAEL

FFS it's really simple !

Raise the sige of Gaza and the rockets will stop. Stop provoking rocket attacks by assassinating Hamas officials and the rockets will stop. Negotiate a settlement in good faith and the rockets will stop. It works both ways.

Zionist Israel has the means to launch guided precision weaponry against launch sites in Gaza, that's indisputable. Carpet bombing neighbourhoods and launching artillery barrages into suburbs demonstates an intent to kill civillians, or at the very least, a reckless disregard for the safety of civillians, both of which are war crimes.

Zionist Israel has the much vaunted Iron Dome system, so why should it need to murder 1,000's of Palestinians in order to "defend itself"?

Ya ya ya, same excuses. Don't launch rockets, and don't provoke Israel. That simple.

 

[MJB12741]

It is the Israelis that fear the truth. The whole Israeli propaganda machine is designed to counter the propagation of the facts. Calling Palestinians "just Arabs. particularly hostile and stupid", doesn't change the fact that you people are a colonial project which is well past its sale date. Any people would be hostile after being treated as you Jews have treated the Palestinians. Evicting them from their land, holding millions in outdoor prisons and murdering thousands of their women and children every 2 years or so.

As far as "stupid" well, you are a racist p.o.s. what else can said about you.

The truth is Israel is here to stay and the arab musilims are too stupid to realise this. Yes the arab muslims are stupid and extremely hostile to the point of getting themselves killed in their thousands. Still waiting for your link to the evidence that Israel was a colonial project, because it took a hell of a lot of years to get it going and of the ground. You have just described exactly what the arab muslims have done to the Jews and Christians over the last 1400 years. Why as recently as 1949 the arab muslim Palestinians evicted by force Jews from Jerusalem and the west bank stealing their homes, property and valuables. So where is the proof of these murders then Abdul, show the evidence that would stand up in court that the Israelis murder 1000's of women and children every 2 years. That means the deaths were all pre meditated and the individuals picked out beforehand by the Israelis. Killing terrorists and militia is not murder by the way it is one of the less savoury facts of war.

NOW STOP SPREADING YOUR RACIST LIES

Funny how the Palestinians kill some Israeli's & then after Israel retaliates the Pali's & their supporters ***** about how many more dead Palestinians there are than Israeli's. It's called Palestinian mentality.

No, it's called keeping a sense of proportion, of reason, of justice. Someone tries to kill you, fine. Kill them, but not their familly, their neighours, their friends and any innocent bystanders within range. Killing those who try to kill you is retaliation, killing anyone else is bestiality, otherwise called Zionist mentality.

Israel has no reason to intentionally kill innocent civilians. To think that Soldiers and pilots are sent on missions to kill non combatants is absurd. Gaza is a tiny place which is very dense. High casualties are expected.

I see the same repetitive scenario. Hamas launches rockets, Israel does no thing. Hamas launches rockets, Israel bombs one Hamas facility. Hamas increases it's rocket launching, Israel bombs another few Hamas facilities. Repeat the latter several more time. Hamas continues its rockets launching even after being warned by Israel that the will commit to a full scale assault of they don't stop.
Hamas CONTINUES launching rockets, Israel partakes in a full blown assault on Hamas and other militants, Palestinians and their supporters start whining to the world about Israeli 'aggression' claiming they started the war and all people can talk about is how many more Palestinian were killed than Israelis.
Now, I don't have a solution to the conflict, but I do have a solution that would save many many Palestinian lives; STOP LAUNCHING ROCKETS AT ISRAEL

FFS it's really simple !

Raise the sige of Gaza and the rockets will stop. Stop provoking rocket attacks by assassinating Hamas officials and the rockets will stop. Negotiate a settlement in good faith and the rockets will stop. It works both ways.

Zionist Israel has the means to launch guided precision weaponry against launch sites in Gaza, that's indisputable. Carpet bombing neighbourhoods and launching artillery barrages into suburbs demonstates an intent to kill civillians, or at the very least, a reckless disregard for the safety of civillians, both of which are war crimes.

Zionist Israel has the much vaunted Iron Dome system, so why should it need to murder 1,000's of Palestinians in order to "defend itself"?

Regretfully it took Jordan near 20,000 dead or evicted Palestinians during Black September to communicate a lasting peace from them. This according to their PLO leader Yassar Arafat himself. Let us all join togetrher & hope the Palestinians learned their lesson well so Israel won't have to do the same to establish a lasting peace from them. LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!.

Jordan Expels the PLO in 1970

 

[montelatici]

There goes MJB, cheering on mass murder. What a guy.

 

[aris2chat]

It is the Israelis that fear the truth. The whole Israeli propaganda machine is designed to counter the propagation of the facts. Calling Palestinians "just Arabs. particularly hostile and stupid", doesn't change the fact that you people are a colonial project which is well past its sale date. Any people would be hostile after being treated as you Jews have treated the Palestinians. Evicting them from their land, holding millions in outdoor prisons and murdering thousands of their women and children every 2 years or so.

As far as "stupid" well, you are a racist p.o.s. what else can said about you.

The truth is Israel is here to stay and the arab musilims are too stupid to realise this. Yes the arab muslims are stupid and extremely hostile to the point of getting themselves killed in their thousands. Still waiting for your link to the evidence that Israel was a colonial project, because it took a hell of a lot of years to get it going and of the ground. You have just described exactly what the arab muslims have done to the Jews and Christians over the last 1400 years. Why as recently as 1949 the arab muslim Palestinians evicted by force Jews from Jerusalem and the west bank stealing their homes, property and valuables. So where is the proof of these murders then Abdul, show the evidence that would stand up in court that the Israelis murder 1000's of women and children every 2 years. That means the deaths were all pre meditated and the individuals picked out beforehand by the Israelis. Killing terrorists and militia is not murder by the way it is one of the less savoury facts of war.

NOW STOP SPREADING YOUR RACIST LIES

Funny how the Palestinians kill some Israeli's & then after Israel retaliates the Pali's & their supporters ***** about how many more dead Palestinians there are than Israeli's. It's called Palestinian mentality.

No, it's called keeping a sense of proportion, of reason, of justice. Someone tries to kill you, fine. Kill them, but not their familly, their neighours, their friends and any innocent bystanders within range. Killing those who try to kill you is retaliation, killing anyone else is bestiality, otherwise called Zionist mentality.

Israel has no reason to intentionally kill innocent civilians. To think that Soldiers and pilots are sent on missions to kill non combatants is absurd. Gaza is a tiny place which is very dense. High casualties are expected.

I see the same repetitive scenario. Hamas launches rockets, Israel does no thing. Hamas launches rockets, Israel bombs one Hamas facility. Hamas increases it's rocket launching, Israel bombs another few Hamas facilities. Repeat the latter several more time. Hamas continues its rockets launching even after being warned by Israel that the will commit to a full scale assault of they don't stop.
Hamas CONTINUES launching rockets, Israel partakes in a full blown assault on Hamas and other militants, Palestinians and their supporters start whining to the world about Israeli 'aggression' claiming they started the war and all people can talk about is how many more Palestinian were killed than Israelis.
Now, I don't have a solution to the conflict, but I do have a solution that would save many many Palestinian lives; STOP LAUNCHING ROCKETS AT ISRAEL

FFS it's really simple !

Raise the sige of Gaza and the rockets will stop. Stop provoking rocket attacks by assassinating Hamas officials and the rockets will stop. Negotiate a settlement in good faith and the rockets will stop. It works both ways.

Zionist Israel has the means to launch guided precision weaponry against launch sites in Gaza, that's indisputable. Carpet bombing neighbourhoods and launching artillery barrages into suburbs demonstates an intent to kill civillians, or at the very least, a reckless disregard for the safety of civillians, both of which are war crimes.

Zionist Israel has the much vaunted Iron Dome system, so why should it need to murder 1,000's of Palestinians in order to "defend itself"?

A few days ago there were 1400 tons of building supplies delivered to gaza. Yesterday there were around 700 trucks of goods delivered. So what siege?
Israel moved back the fishing limit. One crossing for trucks and one for people are open.
PA is not paying hamas fighters. Most arab states have stopped money promised to gaza. Most palestinians in gaza want to leave. Protest by anti-hamas and unions were shut down by hamas this last week. PA have arrested hamas members for terrorist activity. Israel
Egypt is still closed mot days and when it is open it for people to reenter gaza not to enter egypt.
Why should Israel of Egypt be anymore accessible when soldiers in the sinai are being killed, tunnels are still being build and gaza fired in Israel the other day?
Why should Israel or egypt allow hamas the ability to get more funds and weapons from Iran to carry on their attacks?
By what logic do you give a homicidal maniac an automatic and let him kill civilians?



Even the ICC BOI found violation by gaza in the last conflict.

 

[montelatici]

You sure are a wonderful mouthpiece for Zionist propaganda.

"The UN is supervising the flow of material. Just one tightly controlled crossing from Israel into Gaza allows commercial goods. Only a tenth of the 5m tonnes of materials required has so far been let in, says the UN. At this rate, it would take 20 years to rebuild the territory, says Mr Sarhan. To buy on the black market you need a lot of cash. Most Gazans are poor. Half have no job."

http://www.economist.com/news/middl...test-war-recovery-distant-prospect-bleak-ever

 

[toastman]

You sure are a wonderful mouthpiece for Zionist propaganda.

"The UN is supervising the flow of material. Just one tightly controlled crossing from Israel into Gaza allows commercial goods. Only a tenth of the 5m tonnes of materials required has so far been let in, says the UN. At this rate, it would take 20 years to rebuild the territory, says Mr Sarhan. To buy on the black market you need a lot of cash. Most Gazans are poor. Half have no job."

http://www.economist.com/news/middl...test-war-recovery-distant-prospect-bleak-ever

How is it that someone like you, who spews non stop Palestinian propaganda, has the right to accuse someone else of posting propaganda ? Do you not see the hypocrisy?

 

[montelatici]

You sure are a wonderful mouthpiece for Zionist propaganda.

"The UN is supervising the flow of material. Just one tightly controlled crossing from Israel into Gaza allows commercial goods. Only a tenth of the 5m tonnes of materials required has so far been let in, says the UN. At this rate, it would take 20 years to rebuild the territory, says Mr Sarhan. To buy on the black market you need a lot of cash. Most Gazans are poor. Half have no job."

http://www.economist.com/news/middl...test-war-recovery-distant-prospect-bleak-ever

How is it that someone like you, who spews non stop Palestinian propaganda, has the right to accuse someone else of posting propaganda ? Do you not see the hypocrisy?

I have never posted propaganda, just fact. Everything I post is fact backed by neutral sources. You have been so brainwashed by Zionist/Israeli propaganda you are unable to discern fact from fiction.

 

[toastman]

You sure are a wonderful mouthpiece for Zionist propaganda.

"The UN is supervising the flow of material. Just one tightly controlled crossing from Israel into Gaza allows commercial goods. Only a tenth of the 5m tonnes of materials required has so far been let in, says the UN. At this rate, it would take 20 years to rebuild the territory, says Mr Sarhan. To buy on the black market you need a lot of cash. Most Gazans are poor. Half have no job."

http://www.economist.com/news/middl...test-war-recovery-distant-prospect-bleak-ever

How is it that someone like you, who spews non stop Palestinian propaganda, has the right to accuse someone else of posting propaganda ? Do you not see the hypocrisy?

I have never posted propaganda, just fact. Everything I post is fact backed by neutral sources. You have been so brainwashed by Zionist/Israeli propaganda you are unable to discern fact from fiction.

Oh please Monti. Who do you think you are kidding ? You're so brainwashed that you don't even realize that the crap you spew on a daily basis is Palestinian propaganda. You think that because you post a bit of factual information that it makes up for the other lies and propaganda?

 

[montelatici]

None of what I post is propaganda, it is fact. I may have been brainwashed through high school by Zionist/Israeli propaganda, as most Americans are, but university and the study of reality changed my position.

I have never posted a lie, unlike you and your friends. Even your attempt at claiming that the local people attacked the Europeans first was disproven. Even if the locals had every right to attack Europeans planning to evict them and take their lands.

 

[toastman]

w

None of what I post is propaganda, it is fact. I may have been brainwashed through high school by Zionist/Israeli propaganda, as most Americans are, but university and the study of reality changed my position.

I have never posted a lie, unlike you and your friends. Even your attempt at claiming that the local people attacked the Europeans first was disproven. Even if the locals had every right to attack Europeans planning to evict them and take their lands.

NO, it wasn't. Nice try. Arabs were the first ones to kill Jews. The first documented massacre was against Jews.

"Even if the locals had every right to attack Europeans planning to evict them and take their lands"
That's just another bullshit excuse. You ALWAYS excuse Arabs killing Jews/Israelis, but when it's the other war around, you condemn it.
No one was taking over nothing when Jews were massacred. That's more of your Palestinian propaganda.
Geez, you truly are one brainwashed sheep.

 

[montelatici]

w

None of what I post is propaganda, it is fact. I may have been brainwashed through high school by Zionist/Israeli propaganda, as most Americans are, but university and the study of reality changed my position.

I have never posted a lie, unlike you and your friends. Even your attempt at claiming that the local people attacked the Europeans first was disproven. Even if the locals had every right to attack Europeans planning to evict them and take their lands.

NO, it wasn't. Nice try. Arabs were the first ones to kill Jews. The first documented massacre was against Jews.

"Even if the locals had every right to attack Europeans planning to evict them and take their lands"
That's just another bullshit excuse. You ALWAYS excuse Arabs killing Jews/Israelis, but when it's the other war around, you condemn it.
No one was taking over nothing when Jews were massacred. That's more of your Palestinian propaganda.
Geez, you truly are one brainwashed sheep.

The first recorded (by a governmental agency) attacks were Europeans attacking and killing locals. I posted the article several times. The alleged attacks on the Europeans were claims by the Europeans. Hardly a neutral source. But, it doesn't really matter as the locals had every right to try to prevent their dispossession.

The Europeans were planning to take over from the beginning. Early Zionists made that clear. There is plenty of source material.

"There is a difficulty from which the Zionist dares not avert his eyes, though he rarely likes to face it. Palestine proper has already its inhabitants. The pashalik [province] of Jerusalem is already twice as thickly populated as the United States, having 52 souls to every square mile, and not 25 percent of them Jews; so we must be prepared either to drive out by the sword the tribes in possession as our forefathers did, or to grapple with the problem of a large alien population, mostly Mohammedan."

Israel Zangwill recalling his 1904 speech in his book, "The Voice of Jerusalem".

The voice of Jerusalem Zangwill Israel 1864-1926 Free Download Streaming Internet Archive

You see Toast, in academia, bullshit doesn't normally fly. Books like these were part of reading lists in college.

 

[toastman]

w

None of what I post is propaganda, it is fact. I may have been brainwashed through high school by Zionist/Israeli propaganda, as most Americans are, but university and the study of reality changed my position.

I have never posted a lie, unlike you and your friends. Even your attempt at claiming that the local people attacked the Europeans first was disproven. Even if the locals had every right to attack Europeans planning to evict them and take their lands.

NO, it wasn't. Nice try. Arabs were the first ones to kill Jews. The first documented massacre was against Jews.

"Even if the locals had every right to attack Europeans planning to evict them and take their lands"
That's just another bullshit excuse. You ALWAYS excuse Arabs killing Jews/Israelis, but when it's the other war around, you condemn it.
No one was taking over nothing when Jews were massacred. That's more of your Palestinian propaganda.
Geez, you truly are one brainwashed sheep.

The first recorded (by a governmental agency) attacks were Europeans attacking and killing locals. I posted the article several times. The alleged attacks on the Europeans were claims by the Europeans. Hardly a neutral source. But, it doesn't really matter as the locals had every right to try to prevent their dispossession.

The Europeans were planning to take over from the beginning. Early Zionists made that clear. There is plenty of source material.

"There is a difficulty from which the Zionist dares not avert his eyes, though he rarely likes to face it. Palestine proper has already its inhabitants. The pashalik [province] of Jerusalem is already twice as thickly populated as the United States, having 52 souls to every square mile, and not 25 percent of them Jews; so we must be prepared either to drive out by the sword the tribes in possession as our forefathers did, or to grapple with the problem of a large alien population, mostly Mohammedan."

Israel Zangwill recalling his 1904 speech in his book, "The Voice of Jerusalem".

The voice of Jerusalem Zangwill Israel 1864-1926 Free Download Streaming Internet Archive

You see Toast, in academia, bullshit doesn't normally fly. Books like these were part of reading lists in college.

Where in your post does it say anything about a documented massacre?? Geez, you're really desperate I see.

Just proved how much trouble you are having to accept the truth. Arabs started killing Jews first, and there's nothing you can do to change that.

 

[toastman]

w

None of what I post is propaganda, it is fact. I may have been brainwashed through high school by Zionist/Israeli propaganda, as most Americans are, but university and the study of reality changed my position.

I have never posted a lie, unlike you and your friends. Even your attempt at claiming that the local people attacked the Europeans first was disproven. Even if the locals had every right to attack Europeans planning to evict them and take their lands.

NO, it wasn't. Nice try. Arabs were the first ones to kill Jews. The first documented massacre was against Jews.

"Even if the locals had every right to attack Europeans planning to evict them and take their lands"
That's just another bullshit excuse. You ALWAYS excuse Arabs killing Jews/Israelis, but when it's the other war around, you condemn it.
No one was taking over nothing when Jews were massacred. That's more of your Palestinian propaganda.
Geez, you truly are one brainwashed sheep.

The first recorded (by a governmental agency) attacks were Europeans attacking and killing locals. I posted the article several times. The alleged attacks on the Europeans were claims by the Europeans. Hardly a neutral source. But, it doesn't really matter as the locals had every right to try to prevent their dispossession.

The Europeans were planning to take over from the beginning. Early Zionists made that clear. There is plenty of source material.

"There is a difficulty from which the Zionist dares not avert his eyes, though he rarely likes to face it. Palestine proper has already its inhabitants. The pashalik [province] of Jerusalem is already twice as thickly populated as the United States, having 52 souls to every square mile, and not 25 percent of them Jews; so we must be prepared either to drive out by the sword the tribes in possession as our forefathers did, or to grapple with the problem of a large alien population, mostly Mohammedan."

Israel Zangwill recalling his 1904 speech in his book, "The Voice of Jerusalem".

The voice of Jerusalem Zangwill Israel 1864-1926 Free Download Streaming Internet Archive

You see Toast, in academia, bullshit doesn't normally fly. Books like these were part of reading lists in college.

"locals had every right to try to prevent their dispossession"

No they didn't. Show me where in the massacres that I posted does it day anything about them killing Jews because Jews were taking over, and so they had the right.
The Hebron massacre for example took place because of FALSE reports passing through Arab villages.

But I always knew you were a disgusting bigot who condones murder. You're just as bad as Palestinian extremist scum and you should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[montelatici]

It is you that can't accept the truth.

"As in so many incidents that enfolded in the early years of Zionism, often researchers have only had access to the version of events written by the Jewish side......one could find another narrative – the official account of events as recorded by the local Ottoman administration...."We, the residents of villages neighboring with the Jewish colonies of Daran [Rehovot] and Lun Kara (Rishon Leztion)," and complain that the Jews "wanted to strip the camel owner of their clothes, money and camels, but these men refused to give their camels and escaped from Lun Kara with their camels, protecting each other [to seek refuge with] men of the law… The above mentioned Jews attacked our villages, robbed and looted our property, killed and even damaged the family honor, all this in a manner we find hard to put in words."


New documents reveal early Palestinian attitudes toward Zionist settlements - Israel News Haaretz

 

[montelatici]

w

None of what I post is propaganda, it is fact. I may have been brainwashed through high school by Zionist/Israeli propaganda, as most Americans are, but university and the study of reality changed my position.

I have never posted a lie, unlike you and your friends. Even your attempt at claiming that the local people attacked the Europeans first was disproven. Even if the locals had every right to attack Europeans planning to evict them and take their lands.

NO, it wasn't. Nice try. Arabs were the first ones to kill Jews. The first documented massacre was against Jews.

"Even if the locals had every right to attack Europeans planning to evict them and take their lands"
That's just another bullshit excuse. You ALWAYS excuse Arabs killing Jews/Israelis, but when it's the other war around, you condemn it.
No one was taking over nothing when Jews were massacred. That's more of your Palestinian propaganda.
Geez, you truly are one brainwashed sheep.

The first recorded (by a governmental agency) attacks were Europeans attacking and killing locals. I posted the article several times. The alleged attacks on the Europeans were claims by the Europeans. Hardly a neutral source. But, it doesn't really matter as the locals had every right to try to prevent their dispossession.

The Europeans were planning to take over from the beginning. Early Zionists made that clear. There is plenty of source material.

"There is a difficulty from which the Zionist dares not avert his eyes, though he rarely likes to face it. Palestine proper has already its inhabitants. The pashalik [province] of Jerusalem is already twice as thickly populated as the United States, having 52 souls to every square mile, and not 25 percent of them Jews; so we must be prepared either to drive out by the sword the tribes in possession as our forefathers did, or to grapple with the problem of a large alien population, mostly Mohammedan."

Israel Zangwill recalling his 1904 speech in his book, "The Voice of Jerusalem".

The voice of Jerusalem Zangwill Israel 1864-1926 Free Download Streaming Internet Archive

You see Toast, in academia, bullshit doesn't normally fly. Books like these were part of reading lists in college.

Where in your post does it say anything about a documented massacre?? Geez, you're really desperate I see.

Just proved how much trouble you are having to accept the truth. Arabs started killing Jews first, and there's nothing you can do to change that.

The point was that the Europeans had every intention of evicting the locals. I provided source material to prove it. Your brainwashing makes it impossible for you to accept the truth. Above you will see that the Europeans started the massacres, as was the case in all European colonial projects.

 

[montelatici]

You lose Toast. You always lose.

 

[toastman]

It is you that can't accept the truth.

"As in so many incidents that enfolded in the early years of Zionism, often researchers have only had access to the version of events written by the Jewish side......one could find another narrative – the official account of events as recorded by the local Ottoman administration...."We, the residents of villages neighboring with the Jewish colonies of Daran [Rehovot] and Lun Kara (Rishon Leztion)," and complain that the Jews "wanted to strip the camel owner of their clothes, money and camels, but these men refused to give their camels and escaped from Lun Kara with their camels, protecting each other [to seek refuge with] men of the law… The above mentioned Jews attacked our villages, robbed and looted our property, killed and even damaged the family honor, all this in a manner we find hard to put in words."


New documents reveal early Palestinian attitudes toward Zionist settlements - Israel News Haaretz

:Your link is just say so from some Arabs. What day did these 'killings' take place? What is the name of the events?

Imagine I was in your situation, trying to prove the same thing you are, and my evidence was say so by a local Jew. I know, and YOU know, EXACTLY what your response would be.

Either way, you failed again. Arabs started with the killings and the aggression. It;s not my fault you cannot accept the truth.

 

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None of what I post is propaganda, it is fact. I may have been brainwashed through high school by Zionist/Israeli propaganda, as most Americans are, but university and the study of reality changed my position.

I have never posted a lie, unlike you and your friends. Even your attempt at claiming that the local people attacked the Europeans first was disproven. Even if the locals had every right to attack Europeans planning to evict them and take their lands.

NO, it wasn't. Nice try. Arabs were the first ones to kill Jews. The first documented massacre was against Jews.

"Even if the locals had every right to attack Europeans planning to evict them and take their lands"
That's just another bullshit excuse. You ALWAYS excuse Arabs killing Jews/Israelis, but when it's the other war around, you condemn it.
No one was taking over nothing when Jews were massacred. That's more of your Palestinian propaganda.
Geez, you truly are one brainwashed sheep.

The first recorded (by a governmental agency) attacks were Europeans attacking and killing locals. I posted the article several times. The alleged attacks on the Europeans were claims by the Europeans. Hardly a neutral source. But, it doesn't really matter as the locals had every right to try to prevent their dispossession.

The Europeans were planning to take over from the beginning. Early Zionists made that clear. There is plenty of source material.

"There is a difficulty from which the Zionist dares not avert his eyes, though he rarely likes to face it. Palestine proper has already its inhabitants. The pashalik [province] of Jerusalem is already twice as thickly populated as the United States, having 52 souls to every square mile, and not 25 percent of them Jews; so we must be prepared either to drive out by the sword the tribes in possession as our forefathers did, or to grapple with the problem of a large alien population, mostly Mohammedan."

Israel Zangwill recalling his 1904 speech in his book, "The Voice of Jerusalem".

The voice of Jerusalem Zangwill Israel 1864-1926 Free Download Streaming Internet Archive

You see Toast, in academia, bullshit doesn't normally fly. Books like these were part of reading lists in college.

Where in your post does it say anything about a documented massacre?? Geez, you're really desperate I see.

Just proved how much trouble you are having to accept the truth. Arabs started killing Jews first, and there's nothing you can do to change that.

The point was that the Europeans had every intention of evicting the locals. I provided source material to prove it. Your brainwashing makes it impossible for you to accept the truth. Above you will see that the Europeans started the massacres, as was the case in all European colonial projects.

You proved nothing, You failed again Monti. The massacres were started by the Arabs. You STILL have not proven otherwise.

You realize that you have lost basically every single debate with me ? Loser !