Who Are The Palestinians?

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P F Tinmore, et al,

No, I don't think that is correct.

The international boundaries are not proposed. Only the partition lines are proposed.
(COMMENT)

First, it is a moot point because the later conflicts, ending with a Peace Treaty, set the international boundaries.

Second --- the Partition Plan [GA/RES/181(II)] set the boundaries initially:
  • Part I --- Section A: 3. Independent Arab and Jewish States and the Special International Regime for the City of Jerusalem, set forth in part III of this plan, shall come into existence in Palestine two months after the evacuation of the armed forces of the mandatory Power has been completed but in any case not later than 1 October 1948. The boundaries of the Arab State, the Jewish State, and the City of Jerusalem shall be as described in parts II and III below.
  • Part I --- Section B: 3. On its arrival in Palestine the Commission shall proceed to carry out measures for the establishment of the frontiers of the Arab and Jewish States and the City of Jerusalem in accordance with the general lines of the recommendations of the General Assembly on the partition of Palestine. Nevertheless, the boundaries as described in part II of this plan are to be modified in such a way that village areas as a rule will not be divided by state boundaries unless pressing reasons make that necessary.
  • Part II --- Section A -- B -- Boundaries for: The Arab State, The Jewish State
  • End Note 5/ The boundary lines described in part II are indicated in Annex A. The base map used in marking and describing this boundary is "Palestine 1:250000" published by the Survey of Palestine, 1946.

(COMMENT)

The applicability of Resolution 2625 (XXV) of 24 October 1970, by which it affirmed, inter alia, the duty of every State to promote through joint and separate action the realization of the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, is noted and applied in the Status of Palestine in the United Nations (A/67/L.28
26 November 2012)
and the companion resolution --- A/RES/67/19 4 December 2012.

Contradictions noted in the Resolution A/RES/67/19 4 December 2012 are subjective (reading more into it than is actually there).

"Sixty-five years ago on this day, the United Nations General Assembly adopted resolution 181, which partitioned the land of historic Palestine into two states and became the birth certificate for Israel," Abbas told the 193-nation assembly after receiving a standing ovation.

"The General Assembly is called upon today to issue a birth certificate of the reality of the State of Palestine," he said.
.......................................................................................................................................... --- Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas

The 193-nation U.N. General Assembly on Thursday overwhelmingly approved the de facto recognition of a sovereign Palestinian state after Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas called on the world body to issue its long overdue "birth certificate."
.......................................................................................................................................... --- Reuters Palestinians win implicit U.N. recognition of sovereign state
It is accepted as the essential key --- documenting the recognition.

Most Respectfully,
R
Are you still pimping resolution 181. The resolution flopped and never happened.



The 193-nation U.N. General Assembly on Thursday overwhelmingly approved the de facto recognition of a sovereign Palestinian state after Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas called on the world body to issue its long overdue "birth certificate."​

This changes nothing. It was merely a political move.
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

I understand that you do not approve of the recognition for the State of Palestine. But, you are not the sole representative of the Palestinian people.

P F Tinmore, et al,

No, I don't think that is correct.

The international boundaries are not proposed. Only the partition lines are proposed.
(COMMENT)

First, it is a moot point because the later conflicts, ending with a Peace Treaty, set the international boundaries.

Second --- the Partition Plan [GA/RES/181(II)] set the boundaries initially:
  • Part I --- Section A: 3. Independent Arab and Jewish States and the Special International Regime for the City of Jerusalem, set forth in part III of this plan, shall come into existence in Palestine two months after the evacuation of the armed forces of the mandatory Power has been completed but in any case not later than 1 October 1948. The boundaries of the Arab State, the Jewish State, and the City of Jerusalem shall be as described in parts II and III below.
  • Part I --- Section B: 3. On its arrival in Palestine the Commission shall proceed to carry out measures for the establishment of the frontiers of the Arab and Jewish States and the City of Jerusalem in accordance with the general lines of the recommendations of the General Assembly on the partition of Palestine. Nevertheless, the boundaries as described in part II of this plan are to be modified in such a way that village areas as a rule will not be divided by state boundaries unless pressing reasons make that necessary.
  • Part II --- Section A -- B -- Boundaries for: The Arab State, The Jewish State
  • End Note 5/ The boundary lines described in part II are indicated in Annex A. The base map used in marking and describing this boundary is "Palestine 1:250000" published by the Survey of Palestine, 1946.

(COMMENT)

The applicability of Resolution 2625 (XXV) of 24 October 1970, by which it affirmed, inter alia, the duty of every State to promote through joint and separate action the realization of the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, is noted and applied in the Status of Palestine in the United Nations (A/67/L.28
26 November 2012)
and the companion resolution --- A/RES/67/19 4 December 2012.

Contradictions noted in the Resolution A/RES/67/19 4 December 2012 are subjective (reading more into it than is actually there).

"Sixty-five years ago on this day, the United Nations General Assembly adopted resolution 181, which partitioned the land of historic Palestine into two states and became the birth certificate for Israel," Abbas told the 193-nation assembly after receiving a standing ovation.

"The General Assembly is called upon today to issue a birth certificate of the reality of the State of Palestine," he said.
.......................................................................................................................................... --- Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas

The 193-nation U.N. General Assembly on Thursday overwhelmingly approved the de facto recognition of a sovereign Palestinian state after Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas called on the world body to issue its long overdue "birth certificate."
.......................................................................................................................................... --- Reuters Palestinians win implicit U.N. recognition of sovereign state
It is accepted as the essential key --- documenting the recognition.

Most Respectfully,
R
Are you still pimping resolution 181. The resolution flopped and never happened.

The 193-nation U.N. General Assembly on Thursday overwhelmingly approved the de facto recognition of a sovereign Palestinian state after Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas called on the world body to issue its long overdue "birth certificate."​

This changes nothing. It was merely a political move.
(COMMENT)

1988: Despite the historical injustice done to the Palestinian Arab people in its displacement and in being deprived of the right to self-determination following the adoption of General Assembly resolution 181 (II) of 1947, which partitioned Palestine into an Arab and a Jewish State, that resolution nevertheless continues to attach conditions to international legitimacy that guarantee the Palestinian Arab people the right to sovereignty and national independence. Palestinian Declaration of Independence

1988: Recalling its resolution 181 (II) of 29 November 1947, in which, inter alia, it called for the establishment of an Arab State and a Jewish State in Palestine,
UN Acknowledgement of Palestinian Declaration of Independence

1999: The Palestinian side adheres to international legitimacy and respects General Assembly resolution 181 (II), as well as Security Council resolution 242 (1967), the implementation of which is the aim of the current Middle East peace process. Letter dated 25 March 1999 from the Permanent Observer of Palestine to the United Nations addressed to the Secretary-General

2012: Recalling its resolution 181 (II) of 29 November 1947, UN Decides to accord to Palestine non-member observer State status in the United Nations

It seems that both the UN and the Palestinians acknowledge the international legitimacy of the Partition Plan, Resolution 181(II). You may not agree, but it "happened" and is both recognized and legitimate.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
50 years or so is not the definition of ancient. The fact is that when lands are taken over by colonizers, the colonizers must achieve demographic advantage, or else eventually they are either forced to blend in or are forced to leave. Algeria, Rhodesia, South Africa.
.........Algeria, Rhodesia, South Africa.........."Palestine".........Fixed that for ya.

Well, yes, you are right, the European colonizers of Palestine will end up in the same position as the European colonizers of Algeria, Rhodesia, and South Africa. Thanks.

Your hatred for the Jews is quite palpable. Did your imam teach you how to be a bigot, or did you read it in your holy book?

How does my statement, in any way, demonstrate "hatred of the Jews"?



If you don't know then ask your wife to explain it to you
 
50 years or so is not the definition of ancient. The fact is that when lands are taken over by colonizers, the colonizers must achieve demographic advantage, or else eventually they are either forced to blend in or are forced to leave. Algeria, Rhodesia, South Africa.
.........Algeria, Rhodesia, South Africa.........."Palestine".........Fixed that for ya.

Well, yes, you are right, the European colonizers of Palestine will end up in the same position as the European colonizers of Algeria, Rhodesia, and South Africa. Thanks.

What happened to the European colonizers of America?

They were able to eliminate the local people as a demographic threat from North to South America.



So there are no First Nation people left alive in the whole world. Want to try this one again
 
I have no interest in your dopey crusade little SJW. Take your mawkish outrage at another entirely unrelated subject to your homeopathic, pony-kin, drum circle where it can get traction with other bong-smoke militants.

I see you have no answer to the basic fact, which is, if Europeans had not facilitated the colonization of another continent by Europeans of a particular religion, the current problem between colonizer and colonized in Palestine would not exist.

As far as your characterization of me. leave it at home. You couldn't be more deluded.
Little Pumpkin, there's just no reason for me to answer to your fact regarding European colonization... your "fact" is simply not relevant to the point I made.

It is literally irrelevant to the situation. Israel was a recognized nation, it was invaded, certain Israelis sided with the invaders, and the invaders lost. Those are facts not in dispute.

I refuse to be drawn into your retarded rationalizations regarding who chucked the first rock at whom so many generations in the past. Such stories from both sides are full of lies, and the lies weigh equally against each other. Peddle your dopey crusade to someone who will share in your mawkish outrage--I'm not a buyer.

But if you want to dispute the conclusions drawn from the indisputable facts presented, I'm an eager audience. But if you're just going to catalog all the crimes you perceive that were committed against your preferred people, then I'm telling you now I will not be persuaded by such bullshit emotional manipulations.

The indisputable fact is that Europeans went to another continent, expelled the people living there and created a nation.

Ancient history. The fact is that MOST lands were taken over by one group or another.
That is true. However, about a hundred years ago or so conquest became illegal.

Israel came in late in that game.




Wrong again as it was not illegal until 1945, and the arab muslims ignored the law in regards to invasion. The UN should have sent troops in then and sent the arab muslims packing back to their own lands.
 
.........Algeria, Rhodesia, South Africa.........."Palestine".........Fixed that for ya.

Well, yes, you are right, the European colonizers of Palestine will end up in the same position as the European colonizers of Algeria, Rhodesia, and South Africa. Thanks.

What happened to the European colonizers of America?

They were able to eliminate the local people as a demographic threat from North to South America.
Which us exactly what Israel will do, for as long as they are threatened by them.

Well, there are many millions to eliminate a population many times larger than the Jewish population in the general area.. It did not prove feasible in Algeria, Rhodesia or South Africa. Maybe the Jews will be able to to eliminate those millions, maybe not.




They did not have the weapons or technology that Israel has, and the arab muslims have always had the same demographic numbers and not been able to do anything with them. They lost in 1948 and have no chance of gaining any advantage now.
 
Well, yes, you are right, the European colonizers of Palestine will end up in the same position as the European colonizers of Algeria, Rhodesia, and South Africa. Thanks.

What happened to the European colonizers of America?

They were able to eliminate the local people as a demographic threat from North to South America.
Which us exactly what Israel will do, for as long as they are threatened by them.

Well, there are many millions to eliminate a population many times larger than the Jewish population in the general area.. It did not prove feasible in Algeria, Rhodesia or South Africa. Maybe the Jews will be able to to eliminate those millions, maybe not.




They did not have the weapons or technology that Israel has, and the arab muslims have always had the same demographic numbers and not been able to do anything with them. They lost in 1948 and have no chance of gaining any advantage now.

The United States and others would never allow that to happen. Of course, we would help Israel.
 
I see you have no answer to the basic fact, which is, if Europeans had not facilitated the colonization of another continent by Europeans of a particular religion, the current problem between colonizer and colonized in Palestine would not exist.

As far as your characterization of me. leave it at home. You couldn't be more deluded.
Little Pumpkin, there's just no reason for me to answer to your fact regarding European colonization... your "fact" is simply not relevant to the point I made.

It is literally irrelevant to the situation. Israel was a recognized nation, it was invaded, certain Israelis sided with the invaders, and the invaders lost. Those are facts not in dispute.

I refuse to be drawn into your retarded rationalizations regarding who chucked the first rock at whom so many generations in the past. Such stories from both sides are full of lies, and the lies weigh equally against each other. Peddle your dopey crusade to someone who will share in your mawkish outrage--I'm not a buyer.

But if you want to dispute the conclusions drawn from the indisputable facts presented, I'm an eager audience. But if you're just going to catalog all the crimes you perceive that were committed against your preferred people, then I'm telling you now I will not be persuaded by such bullshit emotional manipulations.

The indisputable fact is that Europeans went to another continent, expelled the people living there and created a nation.

Ancient history. The fact is that MOST lands were taken over by one group or another.
That is true. However, about a hundred years ago or so conquest became illegal.

Israel came in late in that game.




Wrong again as it was not illegal until 1945, and the arab muslims ignored the law in regards to invasion. The UN should have sent troops in then and sent the arab muslims packing back to their own lands.

Israel was established as a national Jewish homeland ehtically & legally by a vote of the then member nations of the UN. All Muslim lands are stolen lands conqured by force whereby the indigenous populations were forced to convert,leave or be killed.
 
"As is well known, the Arabs made no attempt to impose their faith on their new subjects, and at first in fact discouraged conversions on the part of non-Arabs."


BBC - Religions - Islam
"As is well known, the Arabs made no attempt to impose their faith on their new subjects, and at first in fact discouraged conversions on the part of non-Arabs."


[URL='http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/earlyrise_1.shtml']BBC - Religions - Islam Early rise of Islam 632-700

Early rise of Islam 632-700 [/URL]

Non Arab Muslims sure did.
 
50 years or so is not the definition of ancient. The fact is that when lands are taken over by colonizers, the colonizers must achieve demographic advantage, or else eventually they are either forced to blend in or are forced to leave. Algeria, Rhodesia, South Africa.
.........Algeria, Rhodesia, South Africa.........."Palestine".........Fixed that for ya.

Well, yes, you are right, the European colonizers of Palestine will end up in the same position as the European colonizers of Algeria, Rhodesia, and South Africa. Thanks.

Your hatred for the Jews is quite palpable. Did your imam teach you how to be a bigot, or did you read it in your holy book?

How does my statement, in any way, demonstrate "hatred of the Jews"?


That tactic is so old.
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

I understand that you do not approve of the recognition for the State of Palestine. But, you are not the sole representative of the Palestinian people.

P F Tinmore, et al,

No, I don't think that is correct.

The international boundaries are not proposed. Only the partition lines are proposed.
(COMMENT)

First, it is a moot point because the later conflicts, ending with a Peace Treaty, set the international boundaries.

Second --- the Partition Plan [GA/RES/181(II)] set the boundaries initially:
  • Part I --- Section A: 3. Independent Arab and Jewish States and the Special International Regime for the City of Jerusalem, set forth in part III of this plan, shall come into existence in Palestine two months after the evacuation of the armed forces of the mandatory Power has been completed but in any case not later than 1 October 1948. The boundaries of the Arab State, the Jewish State, and the City of Jerusalem shall be as described in parts II and III below.
  • Part I --- Section B: 3. On its arrival in Palestine the Commission shall proceed to carry out measures for the establishment of the frontiers of the Arab and Jewish States and the City of Jerusalem in accordance with the general lines of the recommendations of the General Assembly on the partition of Palestine. Nevertheless, the boundaries as described in part II of this plan are to be modified in such a way that village areas as a rule will not be divided by state boundaries unless pressing reasons make that necessary.
  • Part II --- Section A -- B -- Boundaries for: The Arab State, The Jewish State
  • End Note 5/ The boundary lines described in part II are indicated in Annex A. The base map used in marking and describing this boundary is "Palestine 1:250000" published by the Survey of Palestine, 1946.

(COMMENT)

The applicability of Resolution 2625 (XXV) of 24 October 1970, by which it affirmed, inter alia, the duty of every State to promote through joint and separate action the realization of the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, is noted and applied in the Status of Palestine in the United Nations (A/67/L.28
26 November 2012)
and the companion resolution --- A/RES/67/19 4 December 2012.

Contradictions noted in the Resolution A/RES/67/19 4 December 2012 are subjective (reading more into it than is actually there).

"Sixty-five years ago on this day, the United Nations General Assembly adopted resolution 181, which partitioned the land of historic Palestine into two states and became the birth certificate for Israel," Abbas told the 193-nation assembly after receiving a standing ovation.

"The General Assembly is called upon today to issue a birth certificate of the reality of the State of Palestine," he said.
.......................................................................................................................................... --- Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas

The 193-nation U.N. General Assembly on Thursday overwhelmingly approved the de facto recognition of a sovereign Palestinian state after Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas called on the world body to issue its long overdue "birth certificate."
.......................................................................................................................................... --- Reuters Palestinians win implicit U.N. recognition of sovereign state
It is accepted as the essential key --- documenting the recognition.

Most Respectfully,
R
Are you still pimping resolution 181. The resolution flopped and never happened.

The 193-nation U.N. General Assembly on Thursday overwhelmingly approved the de facto recognition of a sovereign Palestinian state after Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas called on the world body to issue its long overdue "birth certificate."​

This changes nothing. It was merely a political move.
(COMMENT)

1988: Despite the historical injustice done to the Palestinian Arab people in its displacement and in being deprived of the right to self-determination following the adoption of General Assembly resolution 181 (II) of 1947, which partitioned Palestine into an Arab and a Jewish State, that resolution nevertheless continues to attach conditions to international legitimacy that guarantee the Palestinian Arab people the right to sovereignty and national independence. Palestinian Declaration of Independence

1988: Recalling its resolution 181 (II) of 29 November 1947, in which, inter alia, it called for the establishment of an Arab State and a Jewish State in Palestine,
UN Acknowledgement of Palestinian Declaration of Independence

1999: The Palestinian side adheres to international legitimacy and respects General Assembly resolution 181 (II), as well as Security Council resolution 242 (1967), the implementation of which is the aim of the current Middle East peace process. Letter dated 25 March 1999 from the Permanent Observer of Palestine to the United Nations addressed to the Secretary-General

2012: Recalling its resolution 181 (II) of 29 November 1947, UN Decides to accord to Palestine non-member observer State status in the United Nations

It seems that both the UN and the Palestinians acknowledge the international legitimacy of the Partition Plan, Resolution 181(II). You may not agree, but it "happened" and is both recognized and legitimate.

Most Respectfully,
R

181. The original shovel to start digging a hole for the Palestinians. And to this day the Palestinians still have not learned the first law of the hole. When you're already in one --- Stop digging.
 
I can't understand why some people sympathize with those savage terrorists. They are a people who have been taught to do nothing but spread hatred and violence. What ELSE do they do?
 
You know what? I can name MANY great contributions that the Israelis have given to the world. I can't name really ONE from the palestinians, aside from hatred and terror.
 
ChrisL, et al,

There is no single right answer to this. It is a summation of a number of different factors that alter the attraction to terrorism and criminal political behaviors.

I can't understand why some people sympathize with those savage terrorists. They are a people who have been taught to do nothing but spread hatred and violence. What ELSE do they do?
(OBSERVATIONs)

Resolution adopted by the General Assembly: Resolution A/RES/2/110 (II) (1947). Measures to be taken against propaganda and the inciters of a new war:

1.
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Condemns all forms of propaganda, in whatsoever country conducted, which is either designed or likely to provoke or encourage and threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression;

2.
clear.gif
Requests the Government of each Member to take appropriate steps within its constitutional limits:
  • To promote, by all means of publicity and propaganda available to them, friendly relations among nations based upon the Purposes and Principles of the Charter;

  • To encourage the dissemination of all information designed to give expression to the undoubted desire of all peoples for peace;
Resolution adopted by the General Assembly: Resolution A/RES/60/288 (2006). The United Nations Global Counter-Terrorism Strategy

I. Measures to address the conditions conducive to the spread of terrorism

4. To continue to work to adopt such measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with our respective obligations under international law to prohibit by law incitement to commit a terrorist act or acts and prevent such conduct;​

(COMMENT)

The single most recurring observation you can make along these lines is the "glorification" of the criminal act themselves. This is done on three levels: the Religious Level (as Martyrs' -- 70 Virgins as compensation), and the Political Recognition Level (Public Acknowledgement of the Heroic act); and the phenomenon of violent crime motivated by a craving for notoriety or self-glorification.

The message to incite young people to rally is essentially the same, whether it barbaric and deviant nature of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), or indeed the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) --- the objective is to replenish the terrorist group so it can continue spreading destruction and devastation.

Example:

“Izzat Risheq, a senior Hamas official, praised the stabbing attack.​

Speaking from Qatar, he described it as “a natural response to the crimes of the occupation and terrorism against the Palestinian people”.”

Risheq was not the only Hamas official to condone the attack:

“The event was deemed a “natural response to Israeli terrorism,” by Hamas Spokesperson Sami Abu Zuhri, who issued an official statement as events unfolded in Tel Aviv.

The incident, the statement said, was a response to ongoing “Israeli crimes” against the Palestinian people. “

End of Example

It is the nature of the environment and generation of being told --- Jihad is the solution.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
ChrisL, et al,

There is no single right answer to this. It is a summation of a number of different factors that alter the attraction to terrorism and criminal political behaviors.

I can't understand why some people sympathize with those savage terrorists. They are a people who have been taught to do nothing but spread hatred and violence. What ELSE do they do?
(OBSERVATIONs)

Resolution adopted by the General Assembly: Resolution A/RES/2/110 (II) (1947). Measures to be taken against propaganda and the inciters of a new war:

1.
clear.gif
Condemns all forms of propaganda, in whatsoever country conducted, which is either designed or likely to provoke or encourage and threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression;

2.
clear.gif
Requests the Government of each Member to take appropriate steps within its constitutional limits:
  • To promote, by all means of publicity and propaganda available to them, friendly relations among nations based upon the Purposes and Principles of the Charter;

  • To encourage the dissemination of all information designed to give expression to the undoubted desire of all peoples for peace;
Resolution adopted by the General Assembly: Resolution A/RES/60/288 (2006). The United Nations Global Counter-Terrorism Strategy

I. Measures to address the conditions conducive to the spread of terrorism

4. To continue to work to adopt such measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with our respective obligations under international law to prohibit by law incitement to commit a terrorist act or acts and prevent such conduct;​

(COMMENT)

The single most recurring observation you can make along these lines is the "glorification" of the criminal act themselves. This is done on three levels: the Religious Level (as Martyrs' -- 70 Virgins as compensation), and the Political Recognition Level (Public Acknowledgement of the Heroic act); and the phenomenon of violent crime motivated by a craving for notoriety or self-glorification.

The message to incite young people to rally is essentially the same, whether it barbaric and deviant nature of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), or indeed the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) --- the objective is to replenish the terrorist group so it can continue spreading destruction and devastation.

Example:

“Izzat Risheq, a senior Hamas official, praised the stabbing attack.​

Speaking from Qatar, he described it as “a natural response to the crimes of the occupation and terrorism against the Palestinian people”.”

Risheq was not the only Hamas official to condone the attack:

“The event was deemed a “natural response to Israeli terrorism,” by Hamas Spokesperson Sami Abu Zuhri, who issued an official statement as events unfolded in Tel Aviv.

The incident, the statement said, was a response to ongoing “Israeli crimes” against the Palestinian people. “

End of Example

It is the nature of the environment and generation of being told --- Jihad is the solution.

Most Respectfully,
R
Example:

“Izzat Risheq, a senior Hamas official, praised the stabbing attack.

Speaking from Qatar, he described it as “a natural response to the crimes of the occupation and terrorism against the Palestinian people”.”

Risheq was not the only Hamas official to condone the attack:

“The event was deemed a “natural response to Israeli terrorism,” by Hamas Spokesperson Sami Abu Zuhri, who issued an official statement as events unfolded in Tel Aviv.

The incident, the statement said, was a response to ongoing “Israeli crimes” against the Palestinian people. “

End of Example​

What part of this is not true?
 
15th post
ChrisL, et al,

There is no single right answer to this. It is a summation of a number of different factors that alter the attraction to terrorism and criminal political behaviors.

I can't understand why some people sympathize with those savage terrorists. They are a people who have been taught to do nothing but spread hatred and violence. What ELSE do they do?
(OBSERVATIONs)

Resolution adopted by the General Assembly: Resolution A/RES/2/110 (II) (1947). Measures to be taken against propaganda and the inciters of a new war:

1.
clear.gif
Condemns all forms of propaganda, in whatsoever country conducted, which is either designed or likely to provoke or encourage and threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression;

2.
clear.gif
Requests the Government of each Member to take appropriate steps within its constitutional limits:
  • To promote, by all means of publicity and propaganda available to them, friendly relations among nations based upon the Purposes and Principles of the Charter;

  • To encourage the dissemination of all information designed to give expression to the undoubted desire of all peoples for peace;
Resolution adopted by the General Assembly: Resolution A/RES/60/288 (2006). The United Nations Global Counter-Terrorism Strategy

I. Measures to address the conditions conducive to the spread of terrorism

4. To continue to work to adopt such measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with our respective obligations under international law to prohibit by law incitement to commit a terrorist act or acts and prevent such conduct;​

(COMMENT)

The single most recurring observation you can make along these lines is the "glorification" of the criminal act themselves. This is done on three levels: the Religious Level (as Martyrs' -- 70 Virgins as compensation), and the Political Recognition Level (Public Acknowledgement of the Heroic act); and the phenomenon of violent crime motivated by a craving for notoriety or self-glorification.

The message to incite young people to rally is essentially the same, whether it barbaric and deviant nature of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), or indeed the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) --- the objective is to replenish the terrorist group so it can continue spreading destruction and devastation.

Example:

“Izzat Risheq, a senior Hamas official, praised the stabbing attack.​

Speaking from Qatar, he described it as “a natural response to the crimes of the occupation and terrorism against the Palestinian people”.”

Risheq was not the only Hamas official to condone the attack:

“The event was deemed a “natural response to Israeli terrorism,” by Hamas Spokesperson Sami Abu Zuhri, who issued an official statement as events unfolded in Tel Aviv.

The incident, the statement said, was a response to ongoing “Israeli crimes” against the Palestinian people. “

End of Example

It is the nature of the environment and generation of being told --- Jihad is the solution.

Most Respectfully,
R
Example:

“Izzat Risheq, a senior Hamas official, praised the stabbing attack.

Speaking from Qatar, he described it as “a natural response to the crimes of the occupation and terrorism against the Palestinian people”.”

Risheq was not the only Hamas official to condone the attack:

“The event was deemed a “natural response to Israeli terrorism,” by Hamas Spokesperson Sami Abu Zuhri, who issued an official statement as events unfolded in Tel Aviv.

The incident, the statement said, was a response to ongoing “Israeli crimes” against the Palestinian people. “

End of Example​

What part of this is not true?




If you need to ask then you have been brainwashed
 
ChrisL, et al,

There is no single right answer to this. It is a summation of a number of different factors that alter the attraction to terrorism and criminal political behaviors.

I can't understand why some people sympathize with those savage terrorists. They are a people who have been taught to do nothing but spread hatred and violence. What ELSE do they do?
(OBSERVATIONs)

Resolution adopted by the General Assembly: Resolution A/RES/2/110 (II) (1947). Measures to be taken against propaganda and the inciters of a new war:

1.
clear.gif
Condemns all forms of propaganda, in whatsoever country conducted, which is either designed or likely to provoke or encourage and threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression;

2.
clear.gif
Requests the Government of each Member to take appropriate steps within its constitutional limits:
  • To promote, by all means of publicity and propaganda available to them, friendly relations among nations based upon the Purposes and Principles of the Charter;

  • To encourage the dissemination of all information designed to give expression to the undoubted desire of all peoples for peace;
Resolution adopted by the General Assembly: Resolution A/RES/60/288 (2006). The United Nations Global Counter-Terrorism Strategy

I. Measures to address the conditions conducive to the spread of terrorism

4. To continue to work to adopt such measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with our respective obligations under international law to prohibit by law incitement to commit a terrorist act or acts and prevent such conduct;​

(COMMENT)

The single most recurring observation you can make along these lines is the "glorification" of the criminal act themselves. This is done on three levels: the Religious Level (as Martyrs' -- 70 Virgins as compensation), and the Political Recognition Level (Public Acknowledgement of the Heroic act); and the phenomenon of violent crime motivated by a craving for notoriety or self-glorification.

The message to incite young people to rally is essentially the same, whether it barbaric and deviant nature of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), or indeed the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) --- the objective is to replenish the terrorist group so it can continue spreading destruction and devastation.

Example:

“Izzat Risheq, a senior Hamas official, praised the stabbing attack.​

Speaking from Qatar, he described it as “a natural response to the crimes of the occupation and terrorism against the Palestinian people”.”

Risheq was not the only Hamas official to condone the attack:

“The event was deemed a “natural response to Israeli terrorism,” by Hamas Spokesperson Sami Abu Zuhri, who issued an official statement as events unfolded in Tel Aviv.

The incident, the statement said, was a response to ongoing “Israeli crimes” against the Palestinian people. “

End of Example

It is the nature of the environment and generation of being told --- Jihad is the solution.

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Example:

“Izzat Risheq, a senior Hamas official, praised the stabbing attack.

Speaking from Qatar, he described it as “a natural response to the crimes of the occupation and terrorism against the Palestinian people”.”

Risheq was not the only Hamas official to condone the attack:

“The event was deemed a “natural response to Israeli terrorism,” by Hamas Spokesperson Sami Abu Zuhri, who issued an official statement as events unfolded in Tel Aviv.

The incident, the statement said, was a response to ongoing “Israeli crimes” against the Palestinian people. “

End of Example​

What part of this is not true?




If you need to ask then you have been brainwashed
You don't refute anything.

Understandable.
 
You know what? I can name MANY great contributions that the Israelis have given to the world. I can't name really ONE from the palestinians, aside from hatred and terror.

There were not many Jewish contributions while they were holed up in places like the Warsaw Ghetto.
 
I can't understand why some people sympathize with those savage terrorists. They are a people who have been taught to do nothing but spread hatred and violence. What ELSE do they do?

I don't understand why some people, mostly Americans, support savage Israeli Jewish terrorists who go on child killing sprees ever year or two, killing 500 children just this past summer. Israeli Jews have been taught to do nothing but hate and periodically murder by the thousands, the people they stole the land from. Luckily most of the world supports Palestine. especially the people of the EU.

PRESS RELEASE - 12 February 2015
"EU releases €212 million to support the Palestinian people"

"The European Union has released the first tranche of its 2015 financial support to the Palestinian Authority and to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA), totalling €212 million. This new funding will help provide vital basic services such as education, healthcare and social services to the Palestinian people."

EU releases 212 million to support the Palestinian people - European Commission
 
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