Who Are The Palestinians?

[Kondor3]

...the indigenous Christians and Muslims resisted the imposition of foreign rule...

Classified Advertisement in the Tel-Aviv TImes, January 1, 1950...

"For Sale

10,000 Palestinian-owned Enfield rifles

Never fired, and only dropped once.

Interested parties may apply at the Ministry of Defence"

======================================================

The lesson of the Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948?

"He who pees his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

 

[theliq]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, I've seen this before.

montelatici, et al,

Their point of departure is of no consequence.

montelatici, et al,

European settlers did not take ANY LAND.

(COMMENT)

The Jewish immigrants under the Mandate, completed the "Steps Preparatory to Independence" as adopted by the General Assembly; --- and exercising their right to self determination.

Most Respectfully,
R

But, they came from another continent and did evict the local inhabitants through violent conquest. They certainly have a right to self determination, but not at the expense of the people already living in the area on another continent. It's like saying the Treaty of Tordesillas had any legal validity.

(COMMENT)

The same body that wrote all the other international laws, determined the solution. It was a basic objective in the original Mandate. It fulfilled the goal of establishing a Jewish National Home.

The Arab Palestinian rejected participation in the process that ultimately created the conditions that allowed the establishment of the State of Israel.

The decisions and path the Arab Palestinian took, the path that they embraced --- Jihad and Armed Struggle --- was the means of solving international disputes they chose; including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

The Arab Palestinian, as a matter of publish Policy objected to settlement of their international disputes by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, or other peaceful means of their choice IAW the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.

Most Respectfully,
R

Where in the treaties or in the mandate did anyone call for an exclusive Jewish state?

Israel is in Palestine. Where is the international dispute?

(COMMENT)

Nothing until the UNSCOP Recommendation adopted by the General Assembly calls for an exclusive state. However, nothing prohibited it either; as a possible solution.

Israel is in the territory former under the Mandate for Palestine.

The UN says: 4. Affirms its determination to contribute to the achievement of the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people and the attainment of a peaceful settlement in the Middle East that ends the occupation that began in 1967 and fulfils the vision of two States: an independent, sovereign, democratic, contiguous and viable State of Palestine living side by side in peace and security with Israel on the basis of the pre-1967 borders; 67/19. Status of Palestine in the United Nations

The international dispute is as previously stated.

The decisions and path the Arab Palestinian took, the path that they embraced --- Jihad and Armed Struggle --- was the means of solving international disputes they chose; including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

The Arab Palestinian, as a matter of publish Policy objected to settlement of their international disputes by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, or other peaceful means of their choice IAW the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.​

Most Respectfully,
R

The only fact Rocco, is that the indigenous Christians and Muslims resisted the imposition of foreign rule. It was not a Jihad, it was simply local people resisting European colonization. Your use of the word Jihad, demonstrates that you are simply a partisan. Just partisan BS.

Moreover to your comment Monti,ISIS,were formed out of the residue of disenfranchised people after Saddam was overthrown,the Americans and the Puppet Government the Americans put in,must be rueing the day they disenfranchise these people........America may be good at winning battles but bloody useless at winning Wars and leaving area's of combat they are in or have been in chaos and political basket cases........and in this instance we ended up with ISIS................well done America.. NOT steve

 

[theliq]

...the indigenous Christians and Muslims resisted the imposition of foreign rule...

Classified Advertisement in the Tel-Aviv TImes, January 1, 1950...

"For Sale

10,000 Palestinian-owned Enfield rifles

Never fired, and only dropped once.

Interested parties may apply at the Ministry of Defence"

======================================================

The lesson of the Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948?

"He who pees his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

Poor Taste Kondie........Naughty..steve...just sayin

 

[montelatici]

Don't ya'll just love it, how Monty tries to portray Palestinian Christians as lumped-in with Palestinian Muslims?

Who said anything about eliminating?

I think you are forgetting what you wrote.

I wrote:

They were able to eliminate the local people as a demographic threat from North to South America.

You wrote:

Which us exactly what Israel will do, for as long as they are threatened by them.

Oh, eliminate as a threat. I thought you meant eliminate as in kill. Never mind then

The Christian Palestinians may leave eventually, as they have the means and the support of Christians throughout the world, but the Muslim Palestinians will not and they will resist until,, and if, they are literally eliminated. That the same situation the French in Algeria found themselves in, and Algeria was a part of France. The colons immigration and their birthrate was not sufficient to overcome the local demographics and by 1962 after over a hundred years the French had to leave. Had they negotiated and compromised earlier, perhaps they could have remained. You know the story in Rhodesia and South Africa.

They will resist until they've been evicted, anyway...

Kondor they will always support the Palestinian cause...steve Christian or not.

Well, do you support the oppression of the non-Jews in Palestine? Is it ok with you? Most of us neutrals see millions of people being oppressed. We would like to see that change. Am I missing something?

 

[theliq]

montelatici, et al,

Their point of departure is of no consequence.

montelatici, et al,

European settlers did not take ANY LAND.

How did the European settlers take the land from the Christians and Muslims Rocco?

(COMMENT)

The Jewish immigrants under the Mandate, completed the "Steps Preparatory to Independence" as adopted by the General Assembly; --- and exercising their right to self determination.

Most Respectfully,
R

But, they came from another continent and did evict the local inhabitants through violent conquest. They certainly have a right to self determination, but not at the expense of the people already living in the area on another continent. It's like saying the Treaty of Tordesillas had any legal validity.

(COMMENT)

The same body that wrote all the other international laws, determined the solution. It was a basic objective in the original Mandate. It fulfilled the goal of establishing a Jewish National Home.

The Arab Palestinian rejected participation in the process that ultimately created the conditions that allowed the establishment of the State of Israel.

The decisions and path the Arab Palestinian took, the path that they embraced --- Jihad and Armed Struggle --- was the means of solving international disputes they chose; including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

The Arab Palestinian, as a matter of publish Policy objected to settlement of their international disputes by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, or other peaceful means of their choice IAW the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.

Most Respectfully,
R

Where in the treaties or in the mandate did anyone call for an exclusive Jewish state?

Israel is in Palestine. Where is the international dispute?

Tinmore, you're pissin' me off.

Really Hoss.....totally uncalled for...steve

 

[Kondor3]

...the indigenous Christians and Muslims resisted the imposition of foreign rule...

Classified Advertisement in the Tel-Aviv TImes, January 1, 1950...

"For Sale

10,000 Palestinian-owned Enfield rifles

Never fired, and only dropped once.

Interested parties may apply at the Ministry of Defence"

======================================================

The lesson of the Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948?

"He who pees his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

Poor Taste Kondie........Naughty..steve...just sayin

Indeed...

 

[Kondor3]

Don't ya'll just love it, how Monty tries to portray Palestinian Christians as lumped-in with Palestinian Muslims?

I think you are forgetting what you wrote.

I wrote:

They were able to eliminate the local people as a demographic threat from North to South America.

You wrote:

Which us exactly what Israel will do, for as long as they are threatened by them.

Oh, eliminate as a threat. I thought you meant eliminate as in kill. Never mind then

The Christian Palestinians may leave eventually, as they have the means and the support of Christians throughout the world, but the Muslim Palestinians will not and they will resist until,, and if, they are literally eliminated. That the same situation the French in Algeria found themselves in, and Algeria was a part of France. The colons immigration and their birthrate was not sufficient to overcome the local demographics and by 1962 after over a hundred years the French had to leave. Had they negotiated and compromised earlier, perhaps they could have remained. You know the story in Rhodesia and South Africa.

They will resist until they've been evicted, anyway...

Kondor they will always support the Palestinian cause...steve Christian or not.

Well, do you support the oppression of the non-Jews in Palestine? Is it ok with you? Most of us neutrals see millions of people being oppressed. We would like to see that change. Am I missing something?

Neutral?

Hell, Monty, and here I was beginning to think that you had no sense of humour...

 

[montelatici]

...the indigenous Christians and Muslims resisted the imposition of foreign rule...

Classified Advertisement in the Tel-Aviv TImes, January 1, 1950...

"For Sale

10,000 Palestinian-owned Enfield rifles

Never fired, and only dropped once.

Interested parties may apply at the Ministry of Defence"

======================================================

The lesson of the Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948?

"He who pees his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

Yes, the Europeans were better armed, better trained and better killers. They were better at violent conquest. So what? The defeated people are still resisting. That's the point.

 

[theliq]

Don't ya'll just love it, how Monty tries to portray Palestinian Christians as lumped-in with Palestinian Muslims?

I think you are forgetting what you wrote.

I wrote:

They were able to eliminate the local people as a demographic threat from North to South America.

You wrote:

Which us exactly what Israel will do, for as long as they are threatened by them.

Oh, eliminate as a threat. I thought you meant eliminate as in kill. Never mind then

The Christian Palestinians may leave eventually, as they have the means and the support of Christians throughout the world, but the Muslim Palestinians will not and they will resist until,, and if, they are literally eliminated. That the same situation the French in Algeria found themselves in, and Algeria was a part of France. The colons immigration and their birthrate was not sufficient to overcome the local demographics and by 1962 after over a hundred years the French had to leave. Had they negotiated and compromised earlier, perhaps they could have remained. You know the story in Rhodesia and South Africa.

They will resist until they've been evicted, anyway...

Kondor they will always support the Palestinian cause...steve Christian or not.

Well, do you support the oppression of the non-Jews in Palestine? Is it ok with you? Most of us neutrals see millions of people being oppressed. We would like to see that change. Am I missing something?

Maybe I'm missing something here......I don't believe ANYONE SHOULD BE OPPRESSED..steve

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, I've seen this before.

montelatici, et al,

Their point of departure is of no consequence.

montelatici, et al,

European settlers did not take ANY LAND.

How did the European settlers take the land from the Christians and Muslims Rocco?

(COMMENT)

The Jewish immigrants under the Mandate, completed the "Steps Preparatory to Independence" as adopted by the General Assembly; --- and exercising their right to self determination.

Most Respectfully,
R

But, they came from another continent and did evict the local inhabitants through violent conquest. They certainly have a right to self determination, but not at the expense of the people already living in the area on another continent. It's like saying the Treaty of Tordesillas had any legal validity.

(COMMENT)

The same body that wrote all the other international laws, determined the solution. It was a basic objective in the original Mandate. It fulfilled the goal of establishing a Jewish National Home.

The Arab Palestinian rejected participation in the process that ultimately created the conditions that allowed the establishment of the State of Israel.

The decisions and path the Arab Palestinian took, the path that they embraced --- Jihad and Armed Struggle --- was the means of solving international disputes they chose; including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

The Arab Palestinian, as a matter of publish Policy objected to settlement of their international disputes by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, or other peaceful means of their choice IAW the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.

Most Respectfully,
R

Where in the treaties or in the mandate did anyone call for an exclusive Jewish state?

Israel is in Palestine. Where is the international dispute?

(COMMENT)

Nothing until the UNSCOP Recommendation adopted by the General Assembly calls for an exclusive state. However, nothing prohibited it either; as a possible solution.

Israel is in the territory former under the Mandate for Palestine.

The UN says: 4. Affirms its determination to contribute to the achievement of the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people and the attainment of a peaceful settlement in the Middle East that ends the occupation that began in 1967 and fulfils the vision of two States: an independent, sovereign, democratic, contiguous and viable State of Palestine living side by side in peace and security with Israel on the basis of the pre-1967 borders; 67/19. Status of Palestine in the United Nations

The international dispute is as previously stated.

The decisions and path the Arab Palestinian took, the path that they embraced --- Jihad and Armed Struggle --- was the means of solving international disputes they chose; including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

The Arab Palestinian, as a matter of publish Policy objected to settlement of their international disputes by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, or other peaceful means of their choice IAW the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.​

Most Respectfully,
R

WOW, the UN contradicts itself in several places in this resolution.

A RES 67 19 of 4 December 2012

And you have not shown me where this applies to I/P.

A RES 25 2625 - Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations - UN Documents Gathering a body of global agreements

 

[toastman]

montelatici, et al,

Their point of departure is of no consequence.

montelatici, et al,

European settlers did not take ANY LAND.

How did the European settlers take the land from the Christians and Muslims Rocco?

(COMMENT)

The Jewish immigrants under the Mandate, completed the "Steps Preparatory to Independence" as adopted by the General Assembly; --- and exercising their right to self determination.

Most Respectfully,
R

But, they came from another continent and did evict the local inhabitants through violent conquest. They certainly have a right to self determination, but not at the expense of the people already living in the area on another continent. It's like saying the Treaty of Tordesillas had any legal validity.

(COMMENT)

The same body that wrote all the other international laws, determined the solution. It was a basic objective in the original Mandate. It fulfilled the goal of establishing a Jewish National Home.

The Arab Palestinian rejected participation in the process that ultimately created the conditions that allowed the establishment of the State of Israel.

The decisions and path the Arab Palestinian took, the path that they embraced --- Jihad and Armed Struggle --- was the means of solving international disputes they chose; including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

The Arab Palestinian, as a matter of publish Policy objected to settlement of their international disputes by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, or other peaceful means of their choice IAW the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.

Most Respectfully,
R

Where in the treaties or in the mandate did anyone call for an exclusive Jewish state?

Israel is in Palestine. Where is the international dispute?

Israel is in Palestine? Where do you come up with this garbage?
Show me a legit map showing Israel inside of Palestine.

 

[montelatici]

Don't ya'll just love it, how Monty tries to portray Palestinian Christians as lumped-in with Palestinian Muslims?

Oh, eliminate as a threat. I thought you meant eliminate as in kill. Never mind then

The Christian Palestinians may leave eventually, as they have the means and the support of Christians throughout the world, but the Muslim Palestinians will not and they will resist until,, and if, they are literally eliminated. That the same situation the French in Algeria found themselves in, and Algeria was a part of France. The colons immigration and their birthrate was not sufficient to overcome the local demographics and by 1962 after over a hundred years the French had to leave. Had they negotiated and compromised earlier, perhaps they could have remained. You know the story in Rhodesia and South Africa.

They will resist until they've been evicted, anyway...

Kondor they will always support the Palestinian cause...steve Christian or not.

Well, do you support the oppression of the non-Jews in Palestine? Is it ok with you? Most of us neutrals see millions of people being oppressed. We would like to see that change. Am I missing something?

Neutral?

Hell, Monty, and here I was beginning to think that you had no sense of humour...

Of course. A neutral that looks at the dynamic from a neitral point of view. Much like many viewed Apartheid South Africa. Of course, there were racists like yourself that supported Apartheid, as you support Israeli oppression and occupation.

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, I've seen this before.

montelatici, et al,

Their point of departure is of no consequence.

montelatici, et al,

European settlers did not take ANY LAND.

(COMMENT)

The Jewish immigrants under the Mandate, completed the "Steps Preparatory to Independence" as adopted by the General Assembly; --- and exercising their right to self determination.

Most Respectfully,
R

But, they came from another continent and did evict the local inhabitants through violent conquest. They certainly have a right to self determination, but not at the expense of the people already living in the area on another continent. It's like saying the Treaty of Tordesillas had any legal validity.

(COMMENT)

The same body that wrote all the other international laws, determined the solution. It was a basic objective in the original Mandate. It fulfilled the goal of establishing a Jewish National Home.

The Arab Palestinian rejected participation in the process that ultimately created the conditions that allowed the establishment of the State of Israel.

The decisions and path the Arab Palestinian took, the path that they embraced --- Jihad and Armed Struggle --- was the means of solving international disputes they chose; including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

The Arab Palestinian, as a matter of publish Policy objected to settlement of their international disputes by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, or other peaceful means of their choice IAW the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.

Most Respectfully,
R

Where in the treaties or in the mandate did anyone call for an exclusive Jewish state?

Israel is in Palestine. Where is the international dispute?

(COMMENT)

Nothing until the UNSCOP Recommendation adopted by the General Assembly calls for an exclusive state. However, nothing prohibited it either; as a possible solution.

Israel is in the territory former under the Mandate for Palestine.

The UN says: 4. Affirms its determination to contribute to the achievement of the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people and the attainment of a peaceful settlement in the Middle East that ends the occupation that began in 1967 and fulfils the vision of two States: an independent, sovereign, democratic, contiguous and viable State of Palestine living side by side in peace and security with Israel on the basis of the pre-1967 borders; 67/19. Status of Palestine in the United Nations

The international dispute is as previously stated.

The decisions and path the Arab Palestinian took, the path that they embraced --- Jihad and Armed Struggle --- was the means of solving international disputes they chose; including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

The Arab Palestinian, as a matter of publish Policy objected to settlement of their international disputes by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, or other peaceful means of their choice IAW the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.​

Most Respectfully,
R

WOW, the UN contradicts itself in several places in this resolution.

A RES 67 19 of 4 December 2012

And you have not shown me where this applies to I/P.

A RES 25 2625 - Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations - UN Documents Gathering a body of global agreements

Did you miss the part where Rocco clearly showed you where the dispute is?

 

[montelatici]

montelatici, et al,

Their point of departure is of no consequence.

montelatici, et al,

European settlers did not take ANY LAND.

How did the European settlers take the land from the Christians and Muslims Rocco?

(COMMENT)

The Jewish immigrants under the Mandate, completed the "Steps Preparatory to Independence" as adopted by the General Assembly; --- and exercising their right to self determination.

Most Respectfully,
R

But, they came from another continent and did evict the local inhabitants through violent conquest. They certainly have a right to self determination, but not at the expense of the people already living in the area on another continent. It's like saying the Treaty of Tordesillas had any legal validity.

(COMMENT)

The same body that wrote all the other international laws, determined the solution. It was a basic objective in the original Mandate. It fulfilled the goal of establishing a Jewish National Home.

The Arab Palestinian rejected participation in the process that ultimately created the conditions that allowed the establishment of the State of Israel.

The decisions and path the Arab Palestinian took, the path that they embraced --- Jihad and Armed Struggle --- was the means of solving international disputes they chose; including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

The Arab Palestinian, as a matter of publish Policy objected to settlement of their international disputes by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, or other peaceful means of their choice IAW the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.

Most Respectfully,
R

Where in the treaties or in the mandate did anyone call for an exclusive Jewish state?

Israel is in Palestine. Where is the international dispute?

Israel is in Palestine? Where do you come up with this garbage?
Show me a legit map showing Israel inside of Palestine.

 

[Kondor3]

...the indigenous Christians and Muslims resisted the imposition of foreign rule...

Classified Advertisement in the Tel-Aviv TImes, January 1, 1950...

"For Sale

10,000 Palestinian-owned Enfield rifles

Never fired, and only dropped once.

Interested parties may apply at the Ministry of Defence"

======================================================

The lesson of the Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948?

"He who pees his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

Yes, the Europeans were better armed, better trained and better killers. They were better at violent conquest. So what? The defeated people are still resisting. That's the point.

Or, alternatively, the defeated people haven't got the sense God gave an ant, to pack up and leave, while they can, rather than engage in pointless further bloodshed...

 

[P F Tinmore]

montelatici, et al,

Their point of departure is of no consequence.

montelatici, et al,

European settlers did not take ANY LAND.

How did the European settlers take the land from the Christians and Muslims Rocco?

(COMMENT)

The Jewish immigrants under the Mandate, completed the "Steps Preparatory to Independence" as adopted by the General Assembly; --- and exercising their right to self determination.

Most Respectfully,
R

But, they came from another continent and did evict the local inhabitants through violent conquest. They certainly have a right to self determination, but not at the expense of the people already living in the area on another continent. It's like saying the Treaty of Tordesillas had any legal validity.

(COMMENT)

The same body that wrote all the other international laws, determined the solution. It was a basic objective in the original Mandate. It fulfilled the goal of establishing a Jewish National Home.

The Arab Palestinian rejected participation in the process that ultimately created the conditions that allowed the establishment of the State of Israel.

The decisions and path the Arab Palestinian took, the path that they embraced --- Jihad and Armed Struggle --- was the means of solving international disputes they chose; including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

The Arab Palestinian, as a matter of publish Policy objected to settlement of their international disputes by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, or other peaceful means of their choice IAW the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.

Most Respectfully,
R

Where in the treaties or in the mandate did anyone call for an exclusive Jewish state?

Israel is in Palestine. Where is the international dispute?

Israel is in Palestine? Where do you come up with this garbage?
Show me a legit map showing Israel inside of Palestine.

There are no legitimate maps. (At least not in the "west") They are all political. Even the UN map of Israel has a disclaimer on legitimacy.

 

[P F Tinmore]

montelatici, et al,

Their point of departure is of no consequence.

montelatici, et al,

European settlers did not take ANY LAND.

(COMMENT)

The Jewish immigrants under the Mandate, completed the "Steps Preparatory to Independence" as adopted by the General Assembly; --- and exercising their right to self determination.

Most Respectfully,
R

But, they came from another continent and did evict the local inhabitants through violent conquest. They certainly have a right to self determination, but not at the expense of the people already living in the area on another continent. It's like saying the Treaty of Tordesillas had any legal validity.

(COMMENT)

The same body that wrote all the other international laws, determined the solution. It was a basic objective in the original Mandate. It fulfilled the goal of establishing a Jewish National Home.

The Arab Palestinian rejected participation in the process that ultimately created the conditions that allowed the establishment of the State of Israel.

The decisions and path the Arab Palestinian took, the path that they embraced --- Jihad and Armed Struggle --- was the means of solving international disputes they chose; including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

The Arab Palestinian, as a matter of publish Policy objected to settlement of their international disputes by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, or other peaceful means of their choice IAW the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.

Most Respectfully,
R

Where in the treaties or in the mandate did anyone call for an exclusive Jewish state?

Israel is in Palestine. Where is the international dispute?

Israel is in Palestine? Where do you come up with this garbage?
Show me a legit map showing Israel inside of Palestine.

Look up "International Boundaries" in the legend then find them on the map.

 

[toastman]

montelatici, et al,

Their point of departure is of no consequence.

montelatici, et al,

European settlers did not take ANY LAND.

(COMMENT)

The Jewish immigrants under the Mandate, completed the "Steps Preparatory to Independence" as adopted by the General Assembly; --- and exercising their right to self determination.

Most Respectfully,
R

But, they came from another continent and did evict the local inhabitants through violent conquest. They certainly have a right to self determination, but not at the expense of the people already living in the area on another continent. It's like saying the Treaty of Tordesillas had any legal validity.

(COMMENT)

The same body that wrote all the other international laws, determined the solution. It was a basic objective in the original Mandate. It fulfilled the goal of establishing a Jewish National Home.

The Arab Palestinian rejected participation in the process that ultimately created the conditions that allowed the establishment of the State of Israel.

The decisions and path the Arab Palestinian took, the path that they embraced --- Jihad and Armed Struggle --- was the means of solving international disputes they chose; including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

The Arab Palestinian, as a matter of publish Policy objected to settlement of their international disputes by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, or other peaceful means of their choice IAW the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.

Most Respectfully,
R

Where in the treaties or in the mandate did anyone call for an exclusive Jewish state?

Israel is in Palestine. Where is the international dispute?

Israel is in Palestine? Where do you come up with this garbage?
Show me a legit map showing Israel inside of Palestine.

There are no legitimate maps. (At least not in the "west") They are all political. Even the UN map of Israel has a disclaimer on legitimacy.[/QUOTE
Translation: i don't have a map to back up my lie so I come up with this ridiculous claim.

What UN map are you talking about? The map of Israel on the UN page clearly shows Israel inside her international borders. Yet I can never find Palestine inside her 'borders'

You're wrong. Again.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, I've seen this before.

montelatici, et al,

Their point of departure is of no consequence.

But, they came from another continent and did evict the local inhabitants through violent conquest. They certainly have a right to self determination, but not at the expense of the people already living in the area on another continent. It's like saying the Treaty of Tordesillas had any legal validity.

(COMMENT)

The same body that wrote all the other international laws, determined the solution. It was a basic objective in the original Mandate. It fulfilled the goal of establishing a Jewish National Home.

The Arab Palestinian rejected participation in the process that ultimately created the conditions that allowed the establishment of the State of Israel.

The decisions and path the Arab Palestinian took, the path that they embraced --- Jihad and Armed Struggle --- was the means of solving international disputes they chose; including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

The Arab Palestinian, as a matter of publish Policy objected to settlement of their international disputes by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, or other peaceful means of their choice IAW the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.

Most Respectfully,
R

Where in the treaties or in the mandate did anyone call for an exclusive Jewish state?

Israel is in Palestine. Where is the international dispute?

(COMMENT)

Nothing until the UNSCOP Recommendation adopted by the General Assembly calls for an exclusive state. However, nothing prohibited it either; as a possible solution.

Israel is in the territory former under the Mandate for Palestine.

The UN says: 4. Affirms its determination to contribute to the achievement of the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people and the attainment of a peaceful settlement in the Middle East that ends the occupation that began in 1967 and fulfils the vision of two States: an independent, sovereign, democratic, contiguous and viable State of Palestine living side by side in peace and security with Israel on the basis of the pre-1967 borders; 67/19. Status of Palestine in the United Nations

The international dispute is as previously stated.

The decisions and path the Arab Palestinian took, the path that they embraced --- Jihad and Armed Struggle --- was the means of solving international disputes they chose; including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

The Arab Palestinian, as a matter of publish Policy objected to settlement of their international disputes by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, or other peaceful means of their choice IAW the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.​

Most Respectfully,
R

WOW, the UN contradicts itself in several places in this resolution.

A RES 67 19 of 4 December 2012

And you have not shown me where this applies to I/P.

A RES 25 2625 - Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations - UN Documents Gathering a body of global agreements

Did you miss the part where Rocco clearly showed you where the dispute is?

I didn't miss it. It is not there.

 

[Vigilante]