P F Tinmore
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Not worth much.Before Israel they needed no aid. After Israel they do.Israel is the reason that the Palestinians need aid.That endlessly deep pit of want and need (the territories occupied by the so-called Pal’istanians), are as usual, unable to provide for themselves.
As usual, it falls to others to meet their perceived entitlements. A $30m-funding shortfall is just the latest disaster the rest of the planet is expected to resolve for the Pally’s.
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Palestinian vaccine drive faces funding shortfall: World Bank
Bank urges Israel, which has made the most progress globally on vaccination, to give Palestinians its surplus shots.www.aljazeera.com
The Palestinians’ COVID-19 vaccination plan faces a $30m-funding shortfall, even after factoring in support from a global vaccine scheme for poorer economies, the World Bank said in a report on Monday.
Israel, a world leader in terms of vaccination speed, should consider donating surplus doses to the Palestinians to help accelerate a vaccine roll-out in the occupied West Bank and Gaza, the bank said.
Pally incompetence is the reason the Pally welfare society needs aid.
Take that for what it is worth.
Oh, those poor, oppressed Pally's. No matter how much you give them, it's never enough to satisfy their presumed entitlement.
Palestinian Media Watch - A window to Palestinian society | PMW
No-win: Israeli free training, loans, and grants to Palestinians are an "attack” on young Palestinians, leading to “Israelization”
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No-win: Israeli free training, loans, and grants to Palestinians are an "attack” on young Palestinians, leading to “Israelization” | PMW Analysis
Training supervisor of YWCA lashed out at Israel for offering “free training, loans, and grants” to young Palestinians “like crazy.” She criticized the “competition from the Israeli institutions,” describing it as “an attack” that leads to “Israelization” of the young Palestinianspalwatch.org
Nan Jacques Zilberdik and Itamar Marcus | Feb 21, 2021
This is a textbook example of Israel's no-win predicament:
The PA’s standard libel is that Israel is deliberately trying to harm Palestinians and at other times Israel is criticized by the PA for allegedly not taking care of Palestinians.
But now when Israel has created a special program to create economic opportunities for Palestinians it is being criticized for its “attack” that is causing “Israelization” among Palestinian youth. For Israel it’s a tragic no-win.
For Israel it’s a tragic no-win.
(COMMENT)Before Israel they needed no aid. After Israel they do.
(COMMENT)Take that for what it is worth.
What was the poison pill? Every offer ever made to the Palestinians had a poison pill.For various excuses, the Arab Palestinians reject participation in self-governing institutions.
What was the poison pill? Every offer ever made to the Palestinians had a poison pill.For various excuses, the Arab Palestinians reject participation in self-governing institutions.
What was the poison pill? Every offer ever made to the Palestinians had a poison pill.For various excuses, the Arab Palestinians reject participation in self-governing institutions.
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Need for Aid •
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BLUF: Before the establishment of Israel, the ungrateful Arab Palestinians were under the Administration of the Mandate for Palestine.
(COMMENT)Before Israel they needed no aid. After Israel they do.
Prior to the establishment of Israel, the Territory subject to the Mandate and "inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves."
From 1922 until 1948, the High Commissioner governed Palestine with the aid of Councils consisting exclusively of British officials. For various excuses, the Arab Palestinians reject participation in self-governing institutions.
From November 1947 until May 1948, while the Jewish Agency and the National Council for the Jewish State worked tirelessly in the creation of self-governing institutions across the entire spectrum of government. In 1948 the National Council for the Jewish State applied for recognition of the Provisional Government. The Arab Palestinians did not lift a finger in the establishment of any aspect of government and did not have a functioning provisional government.
(COMMENT)Take that for what it is worth.
Well, I would say that it is not worth the Israeli Shekel, used by the Arab Palestinians as currency. But → that would be an insult to the value of the Shekel. So, in my opinion, it is not worth a single Donor Community Dollar used to prop-up the Ramallah Government and Gaza City Governments (such as they are).
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Most Respectfully,
R
Before Israel they needed no aid. After Israel they do.
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What does all that crapola have to do with aid?Prior to the establishment of Israel, the Territory subject to the Mandate and "inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves."
From 1922 until 1948, the High Commissioner governed Palestine with the aid of Councils consisting exclusively of British officials. For various excuses, the Arab Palestinians reject participation in self-governing institutions. Blah, blah, blah.
The Pally's have been getting welfare aid for decades. It appears they will forever be welfare dependent.What does all that crapola have to do with aid?
(COMMENT)What does all that crapola have to do with aid?
The Ottoman's collected 30% tax from the Palestinians and they required no aid. Palestine had a government (headed by British officials and staffed by Palestinians) and they collected taxes also.RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Need for Aid •
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
BLUF: The Mandatory Government covers budget costs and all debt. That is obvious from the A05 Series A: Collection of Judgments (1923-1930) | Permanent Court of International Justice (PCIJ • 1922-1946)
(COMMENT)What does all that crapola have to do with aid?
When a Mandatory Government provides for the entire cost of the Administration, especially when the Staff of the High Commissioner is entirely British (Arab Palestinians rejected all efforts to include them in government), that is essentially the same as "donor contributions" (ie "aid"; what is called (today) → UK Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office, Direct Aid supports small and medium-sized civil society organizations to deliver the Global Goals).
You do this quite often. You intentionally act as if the • dots • are impossible to connect. Just who in the hell do you think was picking up the tab for the cost of the British Administration of Palestine with the aid of Councils consisting exclusively of British officials?
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Most Respectfully,
R
How do you know Britain overspent on time and security by choice?The Ottoman's collected 30% tax from the Palestinians and they required no aid. Palestine had a government (headed by British officials and staffed by Palestinians) and they collected taxes also.RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Need for Aid •
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
BLUF: The Mandatory Government covers budget costs and all debt. That is obvious from the A05 Series A: Collection of Judgments (1923-1930) | Permanent Court of International Justice (PCIJ • 1922-1946)
(COMMENT)What does all that crapola have to do with aid?
When a Mandatory Government provides for the entire cost of the Administration, especially when the Staff of the High Commissioner is entirely British (Arab Palestinians rejected all efforts to include them in government), that is essentially the same as "donor contributions" (ie "aid"; what is called (today) → UK Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office, Direct Aid supports small and medium-sized civil society organizations to deliver the Global Goals).
You do this quite often. You intentionally act as if the • dots • are impossible to connect. Just who in the hell do you think was picking up the tab for the cost of the British Administration of Palestine with the aid of Councils consisting exclusively of British officials?
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Most Respectfully,
R
Britain overspent on time and security by choice.
(COMMENT)The Ottoman's collected 30% tax from the Palestinians and they required no aid. Palestine had a government (headed by British officials and staffed by Palestinians) and they collected taxes also.
Britain overspent on time and security by choice.
Says the guy who does not know how regional economies work.RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Need for Aid •
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
BLUF: The British Administration did not have to put out a general call for donations between 1922-1948. The Jordanians did not have to put out a general call for donations between 1948 - 1967. The Egyptians did not have to put out a general call for donations between 1948-1967. The Israelis did not have to put out a general call for donations for Area "C" since the Oslo accords. The international donor program for the Arab Palestinian governments in Ramallah and Gaza only started after the Arab Palestinians demanded recognition as a state under the Montevideo Convention (Article 1) and the Right of Self-Determination.
(COMMENT)The Ottoman's collected 30% tax from the Palestinians and they required no aid. Palestine had a government (headed by British officials and staffed by Palestinians) and they collected taxes also.
Britain overspent on time and security by choice.
We are not talking exclusively about the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine quasi-Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) Appeals (11 February 2021) for US$ 806 million (plus) to support core services (education, health, relief, social services, protection, infrastructure and camp improvements). It appears that the new Administration will resume some funding, but the amount is not immediately understood.
Either the Arab Palestinians have an actual government that is not dependent on International Donations to support its budget, - OR - the Arag Palestinians do not have an Article 22 Stand-alone Government.
Currently, the Ramallah and Gaza Governments cannot provide the necessary medical services for COVID-19 Vaccination programs. The International Community is placing the blame on the Israelis since the Arab Palestinian Governments cannot functionally adapt and provides their own standalone services.
The Jewish Voice for Peace Health Advisory Council (JVP-HAC) calls on Israel to assume its responsibility to distribute vaccines to Palestinians (22 FEB 2021) in the occupied territory.
Israel provides COVID-19 vaccine doses for Palestinian health-care workers
Israel transferred today 2,000 coronavirus vaccine doses to the Palestinian Authority (PA).
The Pfizer-made vaccine doses were delivered through the Betunia trade crossing point in
the southwest of Ramallah in the West Bank. A second delivery of 3,000 doses is expected
in the coming days, with both deliveries destined for Palestinian health-care workers.
It was the first time Israel handed over to the Palestinians significant coronavirus
vaccines from its own supply.
The question is, who is overspending and on what?
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Most Respectfully,
R
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Need for Aid •
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
BLUF: The British Administration did not have to put out a general call for donations between 1922-1948. The Jordanians did not have to put out a general call for donations between 1948 - 1967. The Egyptians did not have to put out a general call for donations between 1948-1967. The Israelis did not have to put out a general call for donations for Area "C" since the Oslo accords. The international donor program for the Arab Palestinian governments in Ramallah and Gaza only started after the Arab Palestinians demanded recognition as a state under the Montevideo Convention (Article 1) and the Right of Self-Determination.
(COMMENT)The Ottoman's collected 30% tax from the Palestinians and they required no aid. Palestine had a government (headed by British officials and staffed by Palestinians) and they collected taxes also.
Britain overspent on time and security by choice.
We are not talking exclusively about the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine quasi-Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) Appeals (11 February 2021) for US$ 806 million (plus) to support core services (education, health, relief, social services, protection, infrastructure and camp improvements). It appears that the new Administration will resume some funding, but the amount is not immediately understood.
Either the Arab Palestinians have an actual government that is not dependent on International Donations to support its budget, - OR - the Arag Palestinians do not have an Article 22 Stand-alone Government.
Currently, the Ramallah and Gaza Governments cannot provide the necessary medical services for COVID-19 Vaccination programs. The International Community is placing the blame on the Israelis since the Arab Palestinian Governments cannot functionally adapt and provides their own standalone services.
The Jewish Voice for Peace Health Advisory Council (JVP-HAC) calls on Israel to assume its responsibility to distribute vaccines to Palestinians (22 FEB 2021) in the occupied territory.
Israel provides COVID-19 vaccine doses for Palestinian health-care workers
Israel transferred today 2,000 coronavirus vaccine doses to the Palestinian Authority (PA).
The Pfizer-made vaccine doses were delivered through the Betunia trade crossing point in
the southwest of Ramallah in the West Bank. A second delivery of 3,000 doses is expected
in the coming days, with both deliveries destined for Palestinian health-care workers.
It was the first time Israel handed over to the Palestinians significant coronavirus
vaccines from its own supply.
The question is, who is overspending and on what?
![]()
Most Respectfully,
R
The answer is:The question is, who is overspending and on what?
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Need for Aid •
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
BLUF: The British Administration did not have to put out a general call for donations between 1922-1948. The Jordanians did not have to put out a general call for donations between 1948 - 1967. The Egyptians did not have to put out a general call for donations between 1948-1967. The Israelis did not have to put out a general call for donations for Area "C" since the Oslo accords. The international donor program for the Arab Palestinian governments in Ramallah and Gaza only started after the Arab Palestinians demanded recognition as a state under the Montevideo Convention (Article 1) and the Right of Self-Determination.
(COMMENT)The Ottoman's collected 30% tax from the Palestinians and they required no aid. Palestine had a government (headed by British officials and staffed by Palestinians) and they collected taxes also.
Britain overspent on time and security by choice.
We are not talking exclusively about the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine quasi-Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) Appeals (11 February 2021) for US$ 806 million (plus) to support core services (education, health, relief, social services, protection, infrastructure and camp improvements). It appears that the new Administration will resume some funding, but the amount is not immediately understood.
Either the Arab Palestinians have an actual government that is not dependent on International Donations to support its budget, - OR - the Arag Palestinians do not have an Article 22 Stand-alone Government.
Currently, the Ramallah and Gaza Governments cannot provide the necessary medical services for COVID-19 Vaccination programs. The International Community is placing the blame on the Israelis since the Arab Palestinian Governments cannot functionally adapt and provides their own standalone services.
The Jewish Voice for Peace Health Advisory Council (JVP-HAC) calls on Israel to assume its responsibility to distribute vaccines to Palestinians (22 FEB 2021) in the occupied territory.
Israel provides COVID-19 vaccine doses for Palestinian health-care workers
Israel transferred today 2,000 coronavirus vaccine doses to the Palestinian Authority (PA).
The Pfizer-made vaccine doses were delivered through the Betunia trade crossing point in
the southwest of Ramallah in the West Bank. A second delivery of 3,000 doses is expected
in the coming days, with both deliveries destined for Palestinian health-care workers.
It was the first time Israel handed over to the Palestinians significant coronavirus
vaccines from its own supply.
The question is, who is overspending and on what?
![]()
Most Respectfully,
RThe answer is:The question is, who is overspending and on what?
Britain overspent on time and security by choice.
According to Article 22 of the LoN Covenant, the Mandates were to render administrative assistance and advice until the people could stand alone. Palestine already had a functioning society, economy, and local governments. (class A Mandate)They needed very little. With a handful of advisors, Britain could have been in and out of there in ten years or so.
Instead, Britain maintained a full military presence for 30 years and still did not develop a few national institutions. What was the problem? Were they just stupid?
(COMMENT)Says the guy who does not know how regional economies work.
(COMMENT)Britain overspent on time and security by choice.
(COMMENT)According to Article 22 of the LoN Covenant, the Mandates were to render administrative assistance and advice until the people could stand alone. Palestine already had a functioning society, economy, and local governments. (class A Mandate)They needed very little. With a handful of advisors, Britain could have been in and out of there in ten years or so.
(COMMENT)Instead, Britain maintained a full military presence for 30 years and still did not develop a few national institutions. What was the problem? Were they just stupid?
Israel has had wealth and power shoveled in its direction for over a hundred years while the surrounding countries have suffered under hostile foreign intervention. Palestine has suffered the most under hostile foreign intervention.can see a very marked difference between the development of Israel (a very positive outcome) and the development (a less successful outcome) of the surrounding Arab-related nations