Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[Sixties Fan]

There is a phrase that is seen often in Palestinian Arabic media, especially around this time of year: "Under the pretext of Jewish holidays."

Ma'an wrote on Monday, "The Israeli occupation forces, on Monday evening, restricted Jerusalemites, especially those residing in and around the Old City, under the pretext of the Jewish holidays and to facilitate the settlers' storming of the Old City and the Al-Buraq Wall [Kotel]."

Al Wafd, Wafa and many others headlined, "On the pretext of Jewish holidays, Israel closes the Ibrahimi Mosque in Hebron to [Muslim] worshipers."

Al Quds, last week: "Gaza: Israel's closure of commercial crossings under the pretext of Jewish holidays worsens economic conditions."

El Balad: "On the pretext of days of repentance, settlers storm Al-Aqsa Mosque, instigated by 'temple groups.'"

They don't mention that Egypt and Jordan close crossings on holidays. They don't mention that for every day the Cave of the Patriarchs is closed to Muslims, there is one day it is closed to Jews for Muslim holidays.

The wording makes it appear that they think that Israel uses the holidays as an excuse to make Palestinians suffer.

Indeed, that is exactly what they think.

An Al Jazeera reporter interviewed Palestinians and "experts" about the fact that there are so many Jewish holidays during the week this month.

(full article online)

Palestinians think Jewish holidays are just an excuse for Jews to make their lives difficult for no reason

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[Sixties Fan]

There were actually two attempts. The more spectacular one was the Arab with the light shirt lighting and hurling the firebomb towards an unseen target - possibly to start a forest fire. His own clothes ignite as he rushes back into the getaway car, seemingly unaware that he is on fire.

His red-jacketed friend was driving with a tire as his companion. He rolls out the tire and pours gasoline on it, and tries to light it up as well, but without success.

The entire operation is amateurish but the brave Palestinians are clearly afraid of getting caught.

I particularly like how the getaway driver really wants to peel out and return to the village they came from before the arsonists can run back in and close their doors, and almost leaves the tire guy behind, but has to wait for traffic to allow the U-turn.

(full article online)

Palestinian Molotov cocktail attack goes wrong (video)

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[Sixties Fan]

A man was stabbed and seriously wounded in Jaffa outside Tel Aviv on Wednesday afternoon, police and medics said.

The circumstances of the assault and the identity of the victim were not immediately clear.

Police said the assailant was a Palestinian man who had illegally entered Israel and he had been arrested. Police said the motive was apparently a terror attack and identified the victim as a resident of Jaffa.

(full article online)

Man stabbed, seriously wounded in Jaffa suspected terror attack

Police say suspect, a Palestinian who illegally entered country, has been arrested; victim hospitalized in serious condition; conflicting reports on circumstances of attack

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Sixties Fan]

While four of the six escaped Palestinian terrorists are back behind bars, the PA, PLO, and Fatah continue to highlight the “victory” of the six “heroes” and “revolutionaries who succeeded in liberating themselves,” while praising all the imprisoned terrorists as “the best of us and a crown on the head of the Palestinian people.” Moreover, Fatah describes “everyone who resists this occupation” as “a freedom fighter,” while PLO calls the prison break “a mighty victory” and “heroic event”:

“The Fatah Movement said that ‘the prisoners are the best of us and a crown on the head of the Palestinian people, and we and the masses of our people will not stand idly by if our heroic prisoners are harmed in any one of the Israeli occupation’s prisons.’ … Fatah warned the occupation authorities against the consequences of harming the lives of the six heroic Palestinian prisoners who carried out their sacred right to freedom. It emphasized that the Palestinian people’s struggle against the occupation is a legal right and that the occupation itself is the one that is invalid according to international law, and everyone who resists this occupation is a freedom fighter…
Head of the PLO Department of Expatriate Affairs Rawhi Fattouh… mentioned the six prisoners’ liberation operation from the Israeli Gilboa Prison by saying: ‘Our heroic prisoners in the Israeli occupation prisons recorded a mighty victory, which is added to the list of their victories and legendary resolve, after six of them escaped through a tunnel they dug at Gilboa Prison.’
He described what happened as a great victory and a heroic event.”
[Official PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Sept. 10, 2021]

The term “resist” is a term the PA uses for violence and terror. Even Palestinian terrorists who murder civilians are said to be legitimately "resisting."

An editorial in the official PA daily made light of the arrests, pointing out that the escape is a “magnificent example” that has “entered history”:

(full article online)

“The freedom tunnel knights” – A full review of PA reactions to the escape and capture of the terrorist prisoners | PMW Analysis

“The six revolutionaries who shook the world”

www.palwatch.org

 

[Hollie]

These retrogrades spend their lives immersed in the most lurid conspiracy theories.

Israeli Merchants Harvest Organs From The Bodies Of Palestinian Martyrs, Sell Their Skeletons To Israeli Medical Schools​

Fatah Official Nashat Al-Wahidi On Palestine TV: Israeli Merchants Harvest Organs From The Bodies Of Palestinian Martyrs, Sell Their Skeletons To Israeli Medical Schools

Nashat Al-Wahidi, the spokesman for Fatah's Commission for Martyrs, Prisoners and Wounded, said that Israeli merchants h...

www.memri.org

 

[Hollie]

It looks like Israeli security forces are preparing for Islamic activity of the gee-had kind.


Pallys always have excuses for riots, destruction and mayhem. The ability to form a working, civil society never materializes.

Israel braces for escalation, with major attack said foiled in recent days

Public security minister warns country in 'a very sensitive situation' and anything could set off the area; police on high alert with 2,000 officers deployed in Jerusalem

www.timesofisrael.com

Israeli security forces foiled a major attack this week, as Palestinian terror groups sought to step up violence in solidarity with six escaped prisoners, Hebrew media reported Monday.

The Shin Bet security service and police foiled a number of attacks, Channel 12 and 13 reported, without giving details on the major attack prevented. Meanwhile, police were going on high alert, fearing further violence over the Yom Kippur holiday, particularly in Jerusalem.

 

[Hollie]

Hate the kuffar- love that kuffar welfare money.

Misuse of Gaza aid is likely to continue - opinion

Hamas likely objects to the new Qatari funding mechanism because it would make it more difficult for its officials to take a major share, or to divert the resources to resupply its rocket arsenal.

m.jpost.com

Misuse of Gaza aid is likely to continue - opinion​

By EITAN FISCHBERGER
SEPTEMBER 15, 2021 08:17

Hamas likely objects to the new Qatari funding mechanism because it would make it more difficult for its officials to take a major share, or to divert the resources to resupply its rocket arsenal.

 

[Hollie]

Being linked to Islamic terrorists is probably a bad business call.

Discover Card Cuts Ties With Terror-Linked Organization

A major credit card company severed ties late last month with an organization accused of abetting Palestinian terrorism and backing economic boycotts against Israel.

freebeacon.com

Discover Card Cuts Ties With Palestinian Terror-Linked Organization

Will no longer process donations to left-wing advocacy group that works to free Palestinians from Israeli jails.

A major credit card company severed ties late last month with an organization accused of abetting Palestinian terrorism and backing economic boycotts against Israel

 

[Hollie]

Interesting article in jpost with some considerations about a potential collapse of the corrupt PA and how Hamas (and others), might try to capitalize. There are a number of valid comparisons between the competing Taliban tribes and the various Islamic terrorist franchises in the territories occupied by Iranian backed Hamas, PIJ, and a host of other sunni backed groups. It would be expected that these warring tribes would quickly be at each other’s throats if the opportunity presented itself.

Don’t allow Israel's West Bank to become Afghanistan - opinion

The PA, just like the Afghan government, is already fragile for several reasons, such as corruption, mismanagement and lack of public trust.

m.jpost.com

 

[Hollie]

P F Tinmore said:



Life’s tough for the lad when he can’t find a YouTube video.

 

[Hollie]

It’s difficult to know if the judgement against the Islamic terrorist franchise is anything more than symbolic. The syndicates of Islamic terrorist organizations operate outside of international law and unless Israeli authorities are going to seize property or individuals, there’s no reason to expect Hamas will accept any judgement.

Hamas ordered by court to pay NIS 38 million to victims of terrorism

Since the district court's ruling is subject to the Supreme Court's ruling, the victims' families have announced that they will appeal the ruling to bring the matter before the Supreme Court again.

m.jpost.com

The families of the three teenage yeshiva students who were abducted and murdered by terrorists in 2014 – Naftali Fraenkel, Gilad Shaer, and Eyal Yifrah – are to be awarded NIS 38 million compensation by Hamas, the Jerusalem District Court ruled on Tuesday.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It’s difficult to know if the judgement against the Islamic terrorist franchise is anything more than symbolic. The syndicates of Islamic terrorist organizations operate outside of international law and unless Israeli authorities are going to seize property or individuals, there’s no reason to expect Hamas will accept any judgement.

Hamas ordered by court to pay NIS 38 million to victims of terrorism

Since the district court's ruling is subject to the Supreme Court's ruling, the victims' families have announced that they will appeal the ruling to bring the matter before the Supreme Court again.

m.jpost.com

The families of the three teenage yeshiva students who were abducted and murdered by terrorists in 2014 – Naftali Fraenkel, Gilad Shaer, and Eyal Yifrah – are to be awarded NIS 38 million compensation by Hamas, the Jerusalem District Court ruled on Tuesday.

What authority does a foreign court have to make that decision?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Jurisdiction
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Careful, the implication and answer to your question cut both ways. It is a matter of reciprocity. If the foreign jurisdiction.

It’s difficult to know if the judgment against the Islamic terrorist franchise is anything more than symbolic. The syndicates of Islamic terrorist organizations operate outside of international law and unless Israeli authorities are going to seize property or individuals, there’s no reason to expect Hamas will accept any judgment.

What authority does a foreign court have to make that decision?

(THOUGHT)
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PERSPECTIVE #1: It is a matter of both an exchange of recognition and the concept that neither the claimant in a case nor the defendant in the case can be allowed to enact laws in their own favor that prevents the enforcement of the court after a suit is filed.

PERSPECTIVE #2: IF the judgment of a foreign court has no recognition in one direct, THEN it has no recognition in the reverse direction.
.
(COMMENT)
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This is a case of "what is in the best interest" in the relationship between the jurisdictions.

This could have some very far-reaching implications. This means that ANY judgment in favor of the claimant (the Palestinians) has no recognition (enforceable impact) on any Israeli entity. And it may go even further beyond that. IF the idea that Israeli Courts are foreign courts without recognition THEN does any judgment by any other court have validity when the third party judgment renders in favor of the Palestinians against the Israelis.

IF for example, the Palestinians find themselves in a good position to file against Israel for War Reparations, Restitution, Compensation, or Indemnification → THEN Israel would have no duty to honor such judgments.
.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

Continuing a pattern we have seen for decades, so-called ''aid money'' to the Islamic terrorist franchises in Gaza and the West Bank is money used to further islamic terrorism.

Hamas's meddling in Gaza charities is a massive moral failure | Al Bawaba

Hamas’s shenanigans have severely jeopardized the future of the very people it claims to serve.

www.albawaba.com

Last week, allegations arose that Hamas, the Islamist group that rules the Gaza Strip, had diverted tens of millions of dollars from three major humanitarian organizations to support their own ends. For many this kind of behavior reminded them of Hamas’s rival Palestinian faction, Fatah, which was known for corruption, bribe-taking and nepotism.


On Aug. 4, the Gaza director of World Vision, one of the biggest NGOs in the world, was indicted for siphoning $7.2 million to Hamas annually over the course of five years. The World Vision official, named as Mohammad Al Halabi, allegedly funneled construction materials and food and medical aid packages to Hamas rather than to Gaza’s impoverished civilians.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The US Palestinian Affairs Unit works out of the US Embassy in Jerusalem.

Naturally, the Embassy is closed for Jewish holidays as well as national holidays.

But the PAU tweeted something unusual on Thursday:


The "local holiday"? Are they afraid their Palestinian clients will throw firebombs if they mention "Yom Kippur"?

I checked if they announced they were closed for Rosh Hashanah as well. Sure enough, they tweeted they were closed for Labor Day and "local holidays."



The Holiday Calendar is published by the US Embassy and naturally mentions the names of the Jewish (and Islamic and American) holidays that it closes for.

(full article online)

US Palestinian Affairs Unit can't say "Rosh Hashanah" or "Yom Kippur"

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[Toddsterpatriot]

The US Palestinian Affairs Unit works out of the US Embassy in Jerusalem.

Naturally, the Embassy is closed for Jewish holidays as well as national holidays.

But the PAU tweeted something unusual on Thursday:


The "local holiday"? Are they afraid their Palestinian clients will throw firebombs if they mention "Yom Kippur"?

I checked if they announced they were closed for Rosh Hashanah as well. Sure enough, they tweeted they were closed for Labor Day and "local holidays."



The Holiday Calendar is published by the US Embassy and naturally mentions the names of the Jewish (and Islamic and American) holidays that it closes for.

(full article online)

US Palestinian Affairs Unit can't say "Rosh Hashanah" or "Yom Kippur"

Blogging about Israel and the Arab world since, oh, forever.

elderofziyon.blogspot.com

Biden administration......buncha pussies.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Jurisdiction
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Careful, the implication and answer to your question cut both ways. It is a matter of reciprocity. If the foreign jurisdiction.




(THOUGHT)
.
PERSPECTIVE #1: It is a matter of both an exchange of recognition and the concept that neither the claimant in a case nor the defendant in the case can be allowed to enact laws in their own favor that prevents the enforcement of the court after a suit is filed.

PERSPECTIVE #2: IF the judgment of a foreign court has no recognition in one direct, THEN it has no recognition in the reverse direction.
.
(COMMENT)
.
This is a case of "what is in the best interest" in the relationship between the jurisdictions.

This could have some very far-reaching implications. This means that ANY judgment in favor of the claimant (the Palestinians) has no recognition (enforceable impact) on any Israeli entity. And it may go even further beyond that. IF the idea that Israeli Courts are foreign courts without recognition THEN does any judgment by any other court have validity when the third party judgment renders in favor of the Palestinians against the Israelis.

IF for example, the Palestinians find themselves in a good position to file against Israel for War Reparations, Restitution, Compensation, or Indemnification → THEN Israel would have no duty to honor such judgments.
.

Most Respectfully,
R

Israel doesn't recognize anything.

This sidesteps my question.

 

[Hollie]

Israel doesn't recognize anything.

This sidesteps my question.

So predictable.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Continuing a pattern we have seen for decades, so-called ''aid money'' to the Islamic terrorist franchises in Gaza and the West Bank is money used to further islamic terrorism.

Hamas's meddling in Gaza charities is a massive moral failure | Al Bawaba

Hamas’s shenanigans have severely jeopardized the future of the very people it claims to serve.

www.albawaba.com

Last week, allegations arose that Hamas, the Islamist group that rules the Gaza Strip, had diverted tens of millions of dollars from three major humanitarian organizations to support their own ends. For many this kind of behavior reminded them of Hamas’s rival Palestinian faction, Fatah, which was known for corruption, bribe-taking and nepotism.


On Aug. 4, the Gaza director of World Vision, one of the biggest NGOs in the world, was indicted for siphoning $7.2 million to Hamas annually over the course of five years. The World Vision official, named as Mohammad Al Halabi, allegedly funneled construction materials and food and medical aid packages to Hamas rather than to Gaza’s impoverished civilians.

By the same group of assholes who sit around all day playing terrorist and anti Semite cards.

 

[P F Tinmore]

So predictable.

Indeed it is. Rocco has been ducking my questions for years.