Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[Sixties Fan]

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: One Possible Historic Scenario
※→ Dusty, et al,

BLUF: You don't need to drag "Religion" into the discussion, especially in an argumentative tone.

Sorry kid the jews believe that all humans are descended from adam and eve, so get over it, you can not wipe out the book of genesis to usher in your wet dream vision of reality. So again jews teach that all jews and arabs have the same mother who was eve.

(COMMENT)

Genetically speaking, we are all (Probably) related from the distant past. Well, just 50,000 years ago, the human population was all in Africa (the point of origin for humanity). They numbered 10,000 (San Bushman). I think that humanity migrated through the Middle East and Arabia. (I can't explain Australia). I'm not a Hebrew, but I probably have a common genetic marker for Early Man for Africa.

I can't explain it all. But there are clearly genetic markers. The Hebrew and the Palestinian are related. They come from the same heritage coming out of Africa. Every time I hear the pro-Arab Palestinians use ancient history to call the Hebrew a foreign invader, I just have to chuckle.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Sixties Fan]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: One Possible Historic Scenario
※→ Dusty, et al,

BLUF: You don't need to drag "Religion" into the discussion, especially in an argumentative tone.

Sorry kid the jews believe that all humans are descended from adam and eve, so get over it, you can not wipe out the book of genesis to usher in your wet dream vision of reality. So again jews teach that all jews and arabs have the same mother who was eve.

(COMMENT)

Genetically speaking, we are all (Probably) related from the distant past. Well, just 50,000 years ago, the human population was all in Africa (the point of origin for humanity). They numbered 10,000 (San Bushman). I think that humanity migrated through the Middle East and Arabia. (I can't explain Australia). I'm not a Hebrew, but I probably have a common genetic marker for Early Man for Africa.

I can't explain it all. But there are clearly genetic markers. The Hebrew and the Palestinian are related. They come from the same heritage coming out of Africa. Every time I hear the pro-Arab Palestinians use ancient history to call the Hebrew a foreign invader, I just have to chuckle.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco, with all due respect, the Hebrews, Jews, are not directly related to the Arabs, Palestinians, anymore than they are to the ancient Babylonians, modern Assyrians, Iranians, Lebanese, Phoenicians, Philistines, etc

Humanity may have come out of Africa, but it was a much longer time ago then 50,000 years ago.

All the continents being attached to each other at one time explains some of the human movement to anywhere. The Ice age explains the other.


The alleged relation between Jews and ONLY Palestinians only occured once the Arabs lost all the wars against Israel . It is a political tool. There is no scientific, archeological or any other evidence which would show that this allegation could be true.

 

[Hollie]

Hey, no reason to let a $417 million dollar deficit in the first half of 2021 slow down those payments to your Islamic terrorists. It's all just fun money that is thrown into the bottomless pit of the endless welfare fraud that is Pally Arabism.

Palestinian Authority Introduces New Way for Terrorists, Families to Get Cash

Those receiving funds will receive cards for withdrawing money from the P.A. postal bank using ATM machines.

www.jewishpress.com

Palestinian Authority Introduces New Way for Terrorists, Families to Get Cash​

https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?te...ilies-to-get-cash/2021/07/09/&via=JewishPress

Photo Credit: Courtesy of Palestinian Media Watch.
A schedule of payments made by the Palestinian Authority to terrorists jailed in Israeli prisons.

The Palestinian Authority announced a new mechanism on Tuesday for disbursing payments to terrorists and their families by using ATMs at P.A. post offices, according to a report by MEMRI.

Those receiving funds will receive cards for withdrawing money from the P.A. postal bank using ATM machines.

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[Hollie]

I tend to whince when I hear "Pal'istanian activist". These activists find common cause with hyper-religious psychopaths who are as willing to kill their own as they are Israelis.

Solidarity with ‘Palestine’ Means Kalashnikovs for Kids | National Review

Today’s uncritical supporters of ‘Palestine’ should worry that they are lending tacit support to the indoctrination and weaponization of child warriors.

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Solidarity with ‘Palestine’ Means Kalashnikovs for Kids
By A. J. CASCHETTA
July 13, 2021 6:30 AM



Palestinian youths hold weapons during a military-style graduation ceremony after being trained at one of the Hamas-run Liberation Camps in Gaza City in 2015. (Suhaib Salem/Reuters)
Islamist groups run summer terrorism camps for children.

All the academics who sign statements of solidarity with “Palestine” claim to have done so out of a deep respect for human rights. Their advocacy for Palestinians and refusal to acknowledge Israel’s right to exist received a great deal of attention in June, but their silence regarding the villains who train, equip, and brainwash Palestinian children into becoming child warriors has gone mostly unnoticed for many years. Since these academics don’t seem to care about the human rights of Israelis, they should consider what role they play in denying the rights of Palestinian children.

 

[Hollie]

It's important to understand that the hate oozing out of the Pally enclaves represents an ideology. The ideology is a brutish, unreformed, politico-religious ideology that has been largely static since the 7th century.

There's a reason why we don't see heavily armed groups of Episcopalians committing suicide bombings and attacks on civilians.

Want peace? Stop hateful incitement of Palestinian youth

Almost every facet of Palestinian life has been engaged to spread hateful messages against Jews and Israel—including the indoctrination of Palestinian children.

www.jns.org

Almost every facet of Palestinian life has been engaged to spread hateful messages against Jews and Israel—including the indoctrination of Palestinian children.

 

[Hollie]

Oh, dear. The PIJ franchise of Islamic Terrorism Intl. Inc., is in a snit. The Pally squatters have insisted on constructing buildings without permits - the Pally colonial squatter project.

Very odd, though. With the billions of welfare dollars amassed by Hamas, they never seem to come forward and provide assistance for the “poor, oppressed Pal’istanians”.

Palestinian terror group calls for 'resistance' after Jerusalem demolitions

"These crimes and terrorism targeting Jerusalemites require action to activate all required measures to protect and rescue them."

m.jpost.com

"These crimes and terrorism targeting Jerusalemites require action to activate all required measures to protect and rescue them, and to strengthen their steadfastness in the face of ethnic cleansing policies and all the crimes committed by the terrorist occupation against them," said Salmi, calling for the activation of the "resistance in all its forms" in response.

Salmi's comments come just hours after Muhammad Nassar Al-Husseini was forced to demolish his home in the Silwan neighborhood of east Jerusalem on Tuesday morning due to the fact that he lacked a permit when he built the building. After the demolition, three families are now left without a home to live in, according to Palestinian reports.

 

[Hollie]

Head Of Indoctrination At Palestinian Islamic Jihad On Upcoming Summer Camps For 14-17 Year-Olds​

It must be so rewarding for Pally parents when their little darlings graduate from the Hamas Hitler Youth summer camp and eventually go on to die in a failed gee-had attack.

 

[Hollie]

Huh! While Saddham Hussein, Yassir Arafat or Ahmed Yassin are not heroes in any traditional western norm, dictators and Islamic terrorists are so often heroes in the Arab world.
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Saddam Hussein among Fatah’s role models for kids - What did you learn in summer camp today? #2​

Nan Jacques Zilberdik | Jul 13, 2021

Saddam Hussein among Fatahâs role models for kids - What did you learn in summer camp today? #2 | PMW Analysis

“We do not forget to remind our children of those who brought us glory” – text on images of Arafat, Hamas founder Ahmed Yassin, and ex-Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein

www.palwatch.org

• “We do not forget to remind our children of those who brought us glory” – text on images of Arafat, Hamas founder Ahmed Yassin, and ex-Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein​

In a Fatah summer camp, Palestinian children were taught that arch-terrorist Abu Jihad, Hamas founder Ahmed Yassin, and ex-Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein are role models.
In a video posted by Fatah showing part of the activities at the camp, kids are seen holding pictures of former Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat standing with former Iraqi President and dictator Saddam Hussein, while another child is holding a picture of Arafat and Hamas founder Ahmed Yassin. As these images are shown the following text appears on the edited video:

“We do not forget to remind our children of those who brought us glory”

 

[Sixties Fan]

Palestinian human rights group Al Haq issued a report in 2018 about how poorly the Palestinian governments were following the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW.)

The first few pages blames Israel as the primary reason Palestinian women are discriminated against, which is what one expects from any and every human rights report that comes out from Palestinian organizations. But finally, in paragraph 10, we see that Al Haq accuses Mahmoud Abbas of prety much being a dictator, without saying it directly:

The on-going internal Palestinian political divide has had adverse consequences on the human rights situation. With the PLC ceasing to function, the executive branch of government has monopolised both legislative and executive functions. Transparency and public dialogue are largely absent in the law and policy-making processes. The justice system is also compromised by executive interference, leading to an absence of accountability and redress for victims. The executive has further placed increasing restrictions on civil society organisations, (CSO) such as restrictions on financial transactions, including where the salaries of CSO employees are only transferred following the approval of the Ministry of Interior. These restrictions are imposed without any legal basis.

Then it goes into details on the misogynist laws and practices of the Palestinian Authority, and how it made practically no progress in adhering to the convention that it signed, a point I have made in the past.

The body of Palestinian legislation in force in the West Bank and Gaza Strip do not contain a definition of “discrimination against women” as found under Article 1 of CEDAW. Operative Palestinian legislation also does not include any provisions to the effect of criminalising any form of discrimination specifically against women.

(full article online)

2018 Al Haq report details how women are mistreated in Palestinian territories

Blogging about Israel and the Arab world since, oh, forever.

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[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

Difficult times for the Hamas welfare fraud syndicate. There is a lot of Qatari cash stuffed in suitcases that Hamas wants delivered to Gaza without any accountability for its distribution.

"Money for nothin'"

https://www.israelhayom.com/2021/07/14/egyptian-mediators-optimistic-over-hamas-israel-prisoner-swap-deal/

Eyeing Qatari cash, Hamas says 'time not playing in Israel's favor'
The Gaza Strip-based terrorist group threatens to renew attacks against Israel unless it receives influx of donor cash free of any preconditions.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Most public figures would suffer a loss of credibility after shilling for Hamas in such an obtuse manner, but not Awad — for one simple reason: he has no credibility left to lose. At the 2018 Christ at the Checkpoint Conference, Awad, a former Methodist missionary, revealed his animus toward Jews who dare work at the White House. During the conference, Awad displayed a slide with the picture of three White House officials surrounding a headshot of Donald Trump: Jason Greenblatt, Trump’s special representative for international negotiations; David Friedman, US ambassador to Israel; and Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and senior advisor. The images were accompanied by the words, “Foul! A Recipe for Failure.”

Awad then told his audience to look at the picture.

“Anything wrong?” he asked. “What’s wrong?”

One audience member said, “They’re all Jews!” And another said, “They’re all Jewish.”

Awad then drove the point home.

“They’re all Jewish,” he said. “Millionaires or billionaires.”

Maybe this helps explain why Awad is willing to shill for Hamas, because they have something in common — a contempt for Jews.

Article 22 of the original Hamas covenant declared that its enemies (the Jews, of course) “have been scheming for a long time […] and have accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With their money, they took control of the world media … With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the globe [….] There is no war going on anywhere without them having their finger in it.”

As it turns out, Hamas has updated its covenant, declaring now that its problem isn’t with Judaism as a religion, but with Jews who insist on maintaining their self-determination (AKA, “Zionists”).

(full article online)

The Palestinian Christians Defending Hamas - Algemeiner.com

Most would-be "peacemakers" in the Middle East know better than to shill for Hamas, a jihadist organization whose leaders have repeatedly called for Israel’s destruction and regularly exhort their supporters to murder Jews. And most peacemakers, Christians especially, would understand that...

www.algemeiner.com

 

[P F Tinmore]

Most public figures would suffer a loss of credibility after shilling for Hamas in such an obtuse manner, but not Awad — for one simple reason: he has no credibility left to lose. At the 2018 Christ at the Checkpoint Conference, Awad, a former Methodist missionary, revealed his animus toward Jews who dare work at the White House. During the conference, Awad displayed a slide with the picture of three White House officials surrounding a headshot of Donald Trump: Jason Greenblatt, Trump’s special representative for international negotiations; David Friedman, US ambassador to Israel; and Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and senior advisor. The images were accompanied by the words, “Foul! A Recipe for Failure.”

Awad then told his audience to look at the picture.

“Anything wrong?” he asked. “What’s wrong?”

One audience member said, “They’re all Jews!” And another said, “They’re all Jewish.”

Awad then drove the point home.

“They’re all Jewish,” he said. “Millionaires or billionaires.”

Maybe this helps explain why Awad is willing to shill for Hamas, because they have something in common — a contempt for Jews.

Article 22 of the original Hamas covenant declared that its enemies (the Jews, of course) “have been scheming for a long time […] and have accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With their money, they took control of the world media … With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the globe [….] There is no war going on anywhere without them having their finger in it.”

As it turns out, Hamas has updated its covenant, declaring now that its problem isn’t with Judaism as a religion, but with Jews who insist on maintaining their self-determination (AKA, “Zionists”).

(full article online)

The Palestinian Christians Defending Hamas - Algemeiner.com

Most would-be "peacemakers" in the Middle East know better than to shill for Hamas, a jihadist organization whose leaders have repeatedly called for Israel’s destruction and regularly exhort their supporters to murder Jews. And most peacemakers, Christians especially, would understand that...

www.algemeiner.com

“They’re all Jewish,” he said. “Millionaires or billionaires.”

So, what is not true?

 

[rylah]

Most public figures would suffer a loss of credibility after shilling for Hamas in such an obtuse manner, but not Awad — for one simple reason: he has no credibility left to lose. At the 2018 Christ at the Checkpoint Conference, Awad, a former Methodist missionary, revealed his animus toward Jews who dare work at the White House. During the conference, Awad displayed a slide with the picture of three White House officials surrounding a headshot of Donald Trump: Jason Greenblatt, Trump’s special representative for international negotiations; David Friedman, US ambassador to Israel; and Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and senior advisor. The images were accompanied by the words, “Foul! A Recipe for Failure.”

Awad then told his audience to look at the picture.

“Anything wrong?” he asked. “What’s wrong?”

One audience member said, “They’re all Jews!” And another said, “They’re all Jewish.”

Awad then drove the point home.

“They’re all Jewish,” he said. “Millionaires or billionaires.”

Maybe this helps explain why Awad is willing to shill for Hamas, because they have something in common — a contempt for Jews.

Article 22 of the original Hamas covenant declared that its enemies (the Jews, of course) “have been scheming for a long time […] and have accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With their money, they took control of the world media … With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the globe [….] There is no war going on anywhere without them having their finger in it.”

As it turns out, Hamas has updated its covenant, declaring now that its problem isn’t with Judaism as a religion, but with Jews who insist on maintaining their self-determination (AKA, “Zionists”).

(full article online)

The Palestinian Christians Defending Hamas - Algemeiner.com

Most would-be "peacemakers" in the Middle East know better than to shill for Hamas, a jihadist organization whose leaders have repeatedly called for Israel’s destruction and regularly exhort their supporters to murder Jews. And most peacemakers, Christians especially, would understand that...

www.algemeiner.com

“They’re all Jewish,” he said. “Millionaires or billionaires.”

So, what is not true?

That being Jewish or rich
somehow makes one 'wrong'.

Apparently you don't think so.

 

[Hollie]

Shocking!

Who knew Islamic terrorists were financed by the UN?

UN funds millions to Palestinian groups with terror ties - Im Tirtzu

In a new report, Im Tirtzu expressed the need for increased transparency in funding reporting, citing their advocacy for a UN-equivalent of Taylor Force Act.

www.jpost.com

A newly released report by the Israeli right-wing watchdog group Im Tirtzu divulged that the United Nations has allegedly funneled millions to radical Palestinian groups that are linked to terrorist organizations and the BDS anti-Israel movement.

The report found that between 2016 to 2020, the UN contributed at least $40 million to 19 Palestinian NGOs, nearly all of which support BDS and almost half have ties to Hamas or the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine terror groups, an Im Tirtzu press release announced on Tuesday.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Shocking!

Who knew Islamic terrorists were financed by the UN?

UN funds millions to Palestinian groups with terror ties - Im Tirtzu

In a new report, Im Tirtzu expressed the need for increased transparency in funding reporting, citing their advocacy for a UN-equivalent of Taylor Force Act.

www.jpost.com

A newly released report by the Israeli right-wing watchdog group Im Tirtzu divulged that the United Nations has allegedly funneled millions to radical Palestinian groups that are linked to terrorist organizations and the BDS anti-Israel movement.

The report found that between 2016 to 2020, the UN contributed at least $40 million to 19 Palestinian NGOs, nearly all of which support BDS and almost half have ties to Hamas or the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine terror groups, an Im Tirtzu press release announced on Tuesday.

They do not use our name calling list.

 

[Hollie]

Shocking!

Who knew Islamic terrorists were financed by the UN?

UN funds millions to Palestinian groups with terror ties - Im Tirtzu

In a new report, Im Tirtzu expressed the need for increased transparency in funding reporting, citing their advocacy for a UN-equivalent of Taylor Force Act.

www.jpost.com

A newly released report by the Israeli right-wing watchdog group Im Tirtzu divulged that the United Nations has allegedly funneled millions to radical Palestinian groups that are linked to terrorist organizations and the BDS anti-Israel movement.

The report found that between 2016 to 2020, the UN contributed at least $40 million to 19 Palestinian NGOs, nearly all of which support BDS and almost half have ties to Hamas or the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine terror groups, an Im Tirtzu press release announced on Tuesday.

They do not use our name calling list.

Oh, dear. Your feelings are hurt.

 

[Hollie]

Senior Hamas Official in Rally for Hamas ‘Martyrs’: There Can Be No Peace with the Treacherous Jews​

Golly. This complicates the “peace partner” thing.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Naming Convention
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Denying the definition of "Terrorism" or "Terrorist" is just as wrong as denying the name of "Palestinians." We call them "terrorist" because that is what they are by definition. [Convention for the Prevention and Punishment of Terrorism (1938)]

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Shocking!

Who knew Islamic terrorists were financed by the UN?
A newly released report by the Israeli right-wing watchdog group Im Tirtzu divulged that the United Nations has allegedly funneled millions to radical Palestinian groups that are linked to terrorist organizations and the BDS anti-Israel movement.

The report found that between 2016 to 2020, the UN contributed at least $40 million to 19 Palestinian NGOs, nearly all of which support BDS and almost half have ties to Hamas or the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine terror groups, an Im Tirtzu press release announced on Tuesday.

They do not use our name calling list.

(COMMENT)

Yes: "Name-calling, typical used by children is the act of applying a negative term or label to describe a person or their actions."
But when an adult uses the term "name-calling" while participating in a mature discussion group → it is a backhanded ad Hominen. It is a fallacy in the family of "Red Herrings."

◈ Ad hominem – attacking the arguer instead of the argument.​

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✦ Poisoning the well – a subtype of ad hominem presenting adverse information about a target person with the intention of discrediting everything that the target person says.​

I assume your level of education meets or exceeds mine. I also assume you want to participate in the discussion in a mature and honest fashion.

(ADDITIONALLY)

By denying that the Arab Palestinian hostile actions are "terrorists" - you are saying that the Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) is something other than "criminals" directing hostile acts against Israel with the intention of → or calculated to →

◈ Cause death or serious bodily injury to the civilian population, or ​

◈ Against persons not taking an active part in the hostilities, ​

◈ To intimidate a population​

◈ To compel some act that furthers the criminal objective.​

Beyond that context, I assume you know that any HoAP who commit an offence which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power or damage the property of the occupying forces or administration or the installations used by them, shall be liable to internment or imprisonment, appropriate to the offence committed.

The HoAP are observed engaging repeatedly in criminal and antisocial behavior without remorse or empathy for those victimized or acting in a morally irresponsible fashion.

Most Respectfully,
R