Who are the Israelis?

[Challenger]

Golda Meir was a Christian. Worth mentioning.

New to me, care to elaborate?

 

[Challenger]

et al,

The State of Israel is a complex and diverse multi-ethnic, multi-racial, and multi-religious society. The simplified thumbnail perspective might be broken down like this:

Multi-ethnic considerations:

• Jewish;
• Arab
• Druze,
• Bedouin
• Circassians
• Samaritans
• Armenians

NOTE: Some Jewish Ethnic Differences may be seen:​

• • Ashkenazim (Jewish ethnic lines from mostly Germany and Eastern Europe)
  • Sephardim Jews (Jewish ethnic lines from mostly to Spain, Portugal, and Arab countries).

Multi-racial considerations:

• Caucasian,
• African,
• Mongoloid

Multi-religious considerations:

• Jewish
• Christian
• Muslim

NOTE: In addition there are religious differences among Jews,

• Ultra-Orthodox ("haredim"),
• Modern Orthodox ("dati-leumi"),
• Traditional ("masorati"),
• Secular ("hiloni").

Israel is, very much, a 21st Century country --- having the highest ratio of university degrees to its population in the world. Israel produces huge number of scientific papers ---- more than a 100 papers per 1000 researchers; which shows in the number of Nobel laureates (12: more than all the other Middle Eastern and North African Muslim countries combined) in Physics, Chemistry, Physiology, Medicine, and Literature. (By comparison: Egypt: 4 --- Lebanon: 0 --- Syria: 0 --- Jordan: 0 --- Saudi Arabia: 0 --- Turkey: 1) Israel is at the tip of the spear in terms of high technology developments and medial research advancements; particularly in the areas of microprocessor design and manufacturing; and as diverse as stem cell research --- and --- the treatment of neuro-degenerative diseases. Israel was the first to develop and install a large-scale, fully functional solar electricity generating plant. Of the 16 women in history that have been named Noble Laureates, among them is Ada Yonath, a protein crystallographer (Chemistry), for her studies of the structure and function of the ribosome.

Most Respectfully,
R

It's very impressive just what $billions of US investment can accomplish, I agree; wonder how many of the 47-50 million Americans currently living in poverty that level of investment would have helped?

 

[Challenger]

Israel was founded by European colonists and its founding and current leadership is still predominately made up of people of European origin. Much like other European colonial projects e.g. the U.S., Australia, many Latin American countries, Canada the former Rhodesia and the former White-ruled Republic of South Africa. N.B. In Latin America, where the indigenous people were not subject to successful genocide such as Bolivia and Ecuador, for example, the indigenous people have begun to regain rule.

WRONG Israel was founded by the British who decided to gather them all together and out of everyones hair. The Jewish nation of Israel was also founded by the LoN who granted the Jews of the world a homeland in the part of the world they originally came from. The majority of the Jews in 1948 came from the surrounding areas and not from Europe and it was them that declared independence. It was them that fought of the arab muslim invasion in 1948 - 1949 and died for their beliefs. The Jews did not invade or colonise as you claim falsely, they were invited by the lands legal owners to migrate and settle with a view to claiming the land under INTERNATIONAL LAW. Just as the arab muslims were offered their 78% of Palestine to make their homeland in, but being greedy and arrogant wanted everything, so decided to start a war and tell lies about the reality that is Israel.

Watch out, he's off his meds again...

 

[Phoenall]

Sounds like Otto the Nazirene, from Life of Brian:


BRIAN: Oh. Who are you?

OTTO: My name. Is. Otto.

BRIAN: Oh.

OTTO: Yes. Otto. It’s time, you know. . .

BRIAN: What?

OTTO: . . . Time that we Jews racially purified ourselves.

BRIAN: Oh.

OTTO: He’s right you know. The new leader. We need more living room. We must move into the traditionally Jewish areas of Samaria.

BRIAN: What about the Samaritans?

Maybe you should be asking "What about the Jews" who lived there for 4,000 before the arab muslims invaded again

Any people whose ancestors were Jews in the area of Palestine 4,000 years ago had converted to Christianity (under Byzantine law) and then Islam (most of the current Muslim and Christian Palestinians) or had left.

So where did the Jews in the Ottoman census come from then, if as you state there were no Jews in Palestine until the "Europeans invaded and stole the land" Even your own alleged religion says that the Jews outnumbered the arab muslims

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Jerusalem (After 1291)
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Jerusalem After 1291

"...Present condition of the City: (1907 edition)

Jerusalem (El Quds) is the capital of a sanjak and the seat of a mutasarrif directly dependent on the Sublime Porte. In the administration of the sanjak the mutasarrif is assisted by a council called majlis ida ra; the city has a municipal government (majlis baladiye) presided over by a mayor. The total population is estimated at 66,000. The Turkish census of 1905, which counts only Ottoman subjects, gives these figures:
Jews, 45,000; Moslems, 8,000; Orthodox Christians, 6000; Latins, 2500; Armenians, 950; Protestants, 800; Melkites, 250; Copts, 150; Abyssinians, 100; Jacobites, 100; Catholic Syrians, 50. During the Nineteenth century large suburbs to the north and east have grown up, chiefly for the use of the Jewish colony. These suburbs contain nearly Half the present population...""

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Growth of Jerusalem 1838-Present

....... Jews Muslims Christians Total
1838 6,000 5,000 3,000 14,000
1844 7,120 5,760 3,390 16,270 ..... ..The First Official Ottoman Census
1876 12,000 7,560 5,470 25,030 .... .....Second """"""""""
1905 40,000 8,000 10,900 58,900 ....... Third/last, detailed in CathEncyc above
1948 99,320 36,680 31,300 167,300
1990 353,200 124,200 14,000 491,400
1992 385,000 150,000 15,000 550,000



And that was only in Jerusalem

And, they were almost all European colonists, as stated:

"During the Nineteenth century large suburbs to the north and east have grown up, chiefly for the use of the Jewish colony. These suburbs contain nearly Half the present population..."

And, we have the actual numbers for all of Palestine in 1921 through a more accurate British census where we see that there were more Christians than Jews.

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

No it does not, it only says for the Jewish colony. Which is just the same as the muslim colony 8 miles away from me


And as you have been told this report6 is a pack of LIES, and was rejected by the British government as such. The Foreign minister stood up and gave a detailed report on what he had seen and stated that the land was being flooded by illegal arab muslim immigrants.

 

[Phoenall]

et al,

The State of Israel is a complex and diverse multi-ethnic, multi-racial, and multi-religious society. The simplified thumbnail perspective might be broken down like this:

Multi-ethnic considerations:

• Jewish;
• Arab
• Druze,
• Bedouin
• Circassians
• Samaritans
• Armenians

NOTE: Some Jewish Ethnic Differences may be seen:​

• • Ashkenazim (Jewish ethnic lines from mostly Germany and Eastern Europe)
  • Sephardim Jews (Jewish ethnic lines from mostly to Spain, Portugal, and Arab countries).

Multi-racial considerations:

• Caucasian,
• African,
• Mongoloid

Multi-religious considerations:

• Jewish
• Christian
• Muslim

NOTE: In addition there are religious differences among Jews,

• Ultra-Orthodox ("haredim"),
• Modern Orthodox ("dati-leumi"),
• Traditional ("masorati"),
• Secular ("hiloni").

Israel is, very much, a 21st Century country --- having the highest ratio of university degrees to its population in the world. Israel produces huge number of scientific papers ---- more than a 100 papers per 1000 researchers; which shows in the number of Nobel laureates (12: more than all the other Middle Eastern and North African Muslim countries combined) in Physics, Chemistry, Physiology, Medicine, and Literature. (By comparison: Egypt: 4 --- Lebanon: 0 --- Syria: 0 --- Jordan: 0 --- Saudi Arabia: 0 --- Turkey: 1) Israel is at the tip of the spear in terms of high technology developments and medial research advancements; particularly in the areas of microprocessor design and manufacturing; and as diverse as stem cell research --- and --- the treatment of neuro-degenerative diseases. Israel was the first to develop and install a large-scale, fully functional solar electricity generating plant. Of the 16 women in history that have been named Noble Laureates, among them is Ada Yonath, a protein crystallographer (Chemistry), for her studies of the structure and function of the ribosome.

Most Respectfully,
R

It's very impressive just what $billions of US investment can accomplish, I agree; wonder how many of the 47-50 million Americans currently living in poverty that level of investment would have helped?

I wonder how many more Americans would be in abject poverty if that money was not spent, and then recovered with interest.
And the achievments of Jewish people have nothing to do with US money, if that was the case then muslims would be world leaders in every field or science, medicine and technology.

 

[Phoenall]

Israel was founded by European colonists and its founding and current leadership is still predominately made up of people of European origin. Much like other European colonial projects e.g. the U.S., Australia, many Latin American countries, Canada the former Rhodesia and the former White-ruled Republic of South Africa. N.B. In Latin America, where the indigenous people were not subject to successful genocide such as Bolivia and Ecuador, for example, the indigenous people have begun to regain rule.

WRONG Israel was founded by the British who decided to gather them all together and out of everyones hair. The Jewish nation of Israel was also founded by the LoN who granted the Jews of the world a homeland in the part of the world they originally came from. The majority of the Jews in 1948 came from the surrounding areas and not from Europe and it was them that declared independence. It was them that fought of the arab muslim invasion in 1948 - 1949 and died for their beliefs. The Jews did not invade or colonise as you claim falsely, they were invited by the lands legal owners to migrate and settle with a view to claiming the land under INTERNATIONAL LAW. Just as the arab muslims were offered their 78% of Palestine to make their homeland in, but being greedy and arrogant wanted everything, so decided to start a war and tell lies about the reality that is Israel.

Watch out, he's off his meds again...

No answers to the points raised so like a good little neo Marxist stooge you use health and medication to get a point. Looks like you have just lost a lot of points by being such a cyber bully

 

[Roudy]

Sounds like Otto the Nazirene, from Life of Brian:


BRIAN: Oh. Who are you?

OTTO: My name. Is. Otto.

BRIAN: Oh.

OTTO: Yes. Otto. It’s time, you know. . .

BRIAN: What?

OTTO: . . . Time that we Jews racially purified ourselves.

BRIAN: Oh.

OTTO: He’s right you know. The new leader. We need more living room. We must move into the traditionally Jewish areas of Samaria.

BRIAN: What about the Samaritans?

Maybe you should be asking "What about the Jews" who lived there for 4,000 before the arab muslims invaded again

Any people whose ancestors were Jews in the area of Palestine 4,000 years ago had converted to Christianity (under Byzantine law) and then Islam (most of the current Muslim and Christian Palestinians) or had left.

Buuuuullshit.

 

[Roudy]

Sounds like Otto the Nazirene, from Life of Brian:


BRIAN: Oh. Who are you?

OTTO: My name. Is. Otto.

BRIAN: Oh.

OTTO: Yes. Otto. It’s time, you know. . .

BRIAN: What?

OTTO: . . . Time that we Jews racially purified ourselves.

BRIAN: Oh.

OTTO: He’s right you know. The new leader. We need more living room. We must move into the traditionally Jewish areas of Samaria.

BRIAN: What about the Samaritans?

Maybe you should be asking "What about the Jews" who lived there for 4,000 before the arab muslims invaded again

Any people whose ancestors were Jews in the area of Palestine 4,000 years ago had converted to Christianity (under Byzantine law) and then Islam (most of the current Muslim and Christian Palestinians) or had left.

Let us hear what other Arabs have said:

"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".

- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -


"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".

- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -


"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".

- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -


Concerning the Holy Land, the chairman of the Syrian Delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in February 1919 stated:

"The only Arab domination since the Conquest in 635 c.e. hardly lasted, as such, 22 years".

 

[montelatici]

Let's hear what other Jews have said:

"The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more".... Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000.
* " (The Palestinians are) beasts walking on two legs." Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982.
* "The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls." " Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988.
* "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle." Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.
* "How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to." Golda Maier, March 8, 1969.
* "There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed." Golda Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969.
* "The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war." Israeli General Matityahu Peled, Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972.
* Ben Gurion also warned in 1948 : "We must do everything to insure they ( the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes. "The old will die and the young will forget."
* "We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours." Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.
* "We must do everything to ensure they (the Palestinian refugees) never do return" David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.
* "We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai." David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.
* "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum."
* "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist... There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969.
* "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'" Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.
* Rabin's description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet. "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters" Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas.
* "There are some who believe that the non-Jewish population, even in a high percentage, within our borders will be more effectively under our surveillance; and there are some who believe the contrary, i.e., that it is easier to carry out surveillance over the activities of a neighbor than over those of a tenant. tend to support the latter view and have an additional argument:...the need to sustain the character of the state which will henceforth be Jewish...with a non-Jewish minority limited to 15 percent. I had already reached this fundamental position as early as 1940 [and] it is entered in my diary." Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department. From Israel: an Apartheid State by Uri Davis, p.5.
* "Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours... Everything we don't grab will go to them." Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.
* "It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism,colonialization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands." Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.
* "Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly." Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine,Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.
* "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 (Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1).
* "We will establish ourselves in Palestine whether you like it or not...You can hasten our arrival or you can equally retard it. It is however better for you to help us so as to avoid our constructive powers being turned into a destructive power which will overthrow the world." (Chaim Weizmann, Published in "Judische Rundschau," No. 4, 1920).
Arie Dayan: "The Debate over Zionism and Racism: An Israeli View"; Haaretz, 27 December 1991; translated in Journal of Palestine Studies, Vol. 22, No. 3. (Spring, 1993), pp. 96-105.
Michael Adams: "Israel's Treatment of the Arabs in the Occupied Territories"; Journal of Palestine Studies, Vol. 6, No. 2. (Winter, 1977), pp. 19-40.
Janice J. Terry: "Zionist Attitudes toward Arabs; Journal of Palestine Studies", Vol. 6, No. 1. (Autumn, 1976), pp. 67-78.
Roselle Tekiner: "Race and the Issue of National Identity in Israel"; International Journal of Middle East Studies, Vol. 23, No. 1. (Feb., 1991), pp. 39-55.

 

[Roudy]

^^^^^
So pathetic he can't deny those quotes so he posts irrelevant lies and bullshit.

Truth from yet another "Palestinian':

“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
“We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.
“When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.

 

[RoccoR]

Roudy, et al,

I've seen this question before over the years.

“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
“We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule.

(OBSERVATION)

The Conflict of 1970

The partnership with the Palestinians desired by King Hussein fell apart in September, 1970. The pervasive and chaotic presence of armed Palestinian fedayeen groups who expected immunity from Jordan’s laws was leading to a state of virtual anarchy throughout the Kingdom. Moderate Palestinian leaders were unable to reign in extremist elements, who ambushed the king’s motorcade twice and perpetrated a series of spectacular hijackings. Forced to respond decisively in order to preserve his country from anarchy, King Hussein ordered the army into action.

The situation prompted different reactions throughout the Arab world. While most leaders privately expressed sympathy with the position of King Hussein, many took a public stance in favor of the fedayeen in order to embellish their credentials as “Arab nationalists.” The conflict reached a crisis point in September when some 200 Syrian tanks, camouflaged rather unconvincingly as Palestinian Liberation Army tanks, crossed into Jordan. The Syrians were bereft of air cover, however, and Jordanian aircraft forced a Syrian retreat within three days. In a brief yet intense campaign ending in July 1971, the Jordanian army put an end to the chaotic actions of these Palestinians guerrillas in Amman.​

Disengagement from the West Bank

On July 28, 1988, King Hussein announced the cessation of a $1.3 billion development program for the West Bank, explaining that the measure was designed to allow the PLO more responsibility for the area. Two days later, he formally dissolved Parliament, ending West Bank representation in the legislature. Finally, on July 31 King Hussein announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank. Accordingly, electoral districts were redrawn to represent East Bank constituencies only. This disengagement decision marks the turning point that launched the current democratic process, and began a new stage in Jordan’s relationship with West Bank Palestinians.​

(COMMENT)

There is a another side to this timeline.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Phoenall]

Let's hear what other Jews have said:

"The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more".... Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000.
* " (The Palestinians are) beasts walking on two legs." Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982.
* "The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls." " Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988.
* "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle." Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.
* "How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to." Golda Maier, March 8, 1969.
* "There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed." Golda Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969.
* "The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war." Israeli General Matityahu Peled, Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972.
* Ben Gurion also warned in 1948 : "We must do everything to insure they ( the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes. "The old will die and the young will forget."
* "We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours." Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.
* "We must do everything to ensure they (the Palestinian refugees) never do return" David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.
* "We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai." David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.
* "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum."
* "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist... There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969.
* "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'" Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.
* Rabin's description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet. "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters" Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas.
* "There are some who believe that the non-Jewish population, even in a high percentage, within our borders will be more effectively under our surveillance; and there are some who believe the contrary, i.e., that it is easier to carry out surveillance over the activities of a neighbor than over those of a tenant. tend to support the latter view and have an additional argument:...the need to sustain the character of the state which will henceforth be Jewish...with a non-Jewish minority limited to 15 percent. I had already reached this fundamental position as early as 1940 [and] it is entered in my diary." Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department. From Israel: an Apartheid State by Uri Davis, p.5.
* "Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours... Everything we don't grab will go to them." Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.
* "It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism,colonialization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands." Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.
* "Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly." Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine,Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.
* "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 (Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1).
* "We will establish ourselves in Palestine whether you like it or not...You can hasten our arrival or you can equally retard it. It is however better for you to help us so as to avoid our constructive powers being turned into a destructive power which will overthrow the world." (Chaim Weizmann, Published in "Judische Rundschau," No. 4, 1920).
Arie Dayan: "The Debate over Zionism and Racism: An Israeli View"; Haaretz, 27 December 1991; translated in Journal of Palestine Studies, Vol. 22, No. 3. (Spring, 1993), pp. 96-105.
Michael Adams: "Israel's Treatment of the Arabs in the Occupied Territories"; Journal of Palestine Studies, Vol. 6, No. 2. (Winter, 1977), pp. 19-40.
Janice J. Terry: "Zionist Attitudes toward Arabs; Journal of Palestine Studies", Vol. 6, No. 1. (Autumn, 1976), pp. 67-78.
Roselle Tekiner: "Race and the Issue of National Identity in Israel"; International Journal of Middle East Studies, Vol. 23, No. 1. (Feb., 1991), pp. 39-55.

And every single one of those comments has been proven true over the last 15 years alone, so thanks for showing the world just how evil, vile and twisted the psychopathic Palestinian arab muslims really are.

 

[Billo_Really]

Israeli's are bullshit liars.

The question is, who do they lie to more?

a) themselves
b) the world​

 

[Phoenall]

Israeli's are bullshit liars.

The question is, who do they lie to more?

a) themselves
b) the world​

The bigger question why do the Palestinians and their stooges have to LIE more than anyone else to demonise Israel

 

[P F Tinmore]

Not Israeli, but...

 

[P F Tinmore]

Interesting that nobody has posted Israelis that they admire.

 

[toastman]

Interesting that nobody has posted Israelis that they admire.

Where in this thread has anyone been asked to do so, besides your post ?

 

[toastman]

Israeli's are bullshit liars.

The question is, who do they lie to more?

a) themselves
b) the world​

It never gets old hearing a Palestinian ass kisser calling Israelis liars

No matter how much you deny it, Palestinians are the kings of lies, deception and propaganda.

 

[Phoenall]

Not Israeli, but...

Extremist pack of lunatics, no different to hamas.

 

[Yarddog]

Sounds like Otto the Nazirene, from Life of Brian:


BRIAN: Oh. Who are you?

OTTO: My name. Is. Otto.

BRIAN: Oh.

OTTO: Yes. Otto. It’s time, you know. . .

BRIAN: What?

OTTO: . . . Time that we Jews racially purified ourselves.

BRIAN: Oh.

OTTO: He’s right you know. The new leader. We need more living room. We must move into the traditionally Jewish areas of Samaria.

BRIAN: What about the Samaritans?

Maybe you should be asking "What about the Jews" who lived there for 4,000 before the arab muslims invaded again

Any people whose ancestors were Jews in the area of Palestine 4,000 years ago had converted to Christianity (under Byzantine law) and then Islam (most of the current Muslim and Christian Palestinians) or had left.

There were over a million jews displaced from there homes in Algeria, Lybia and the other Arab countrys after the war. They were Jews not Zionists, but many of them ended up going to Israel. i would say they have a right to be there as Arabs took there land. The entire ME is an Arab land, theres only one Jewish state in the world and its maybe half the size of w. Virginia. Its still to much for the world to accept.