godsandmen
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And yet they call themselves "values voters". What a load of crap!
White Supremacist Evangelicals ban anti Trump pastor for life.
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And yet they call themselves "values voters". What a load of crap!
Stop being a dunce,....if you can.
American politics is binary.
Unless you can show the other candidate to represent "honesty, integrity, truthfulness, humility, etc. etc..," ....stop carping about what was clearly the correct decision.
In the last several day's we've learned
a. The Russians paid $145 million to the Clinton Crime Family, and in return appropriated a large portion of our uranium.
They have energy....so it in to be used for weapons......
Against whom?
Us.
b. Bill was slipped $500,000 to give a fake speech.
See a. above.
c. " Former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta exits after ... a company that received $35 million from the Russian government..."
http://nypost.com/2017/07/05/uncovering-the-russia-ties-of-hillarys-campaign-chief/
d. "WASHINGTON — Tony Podesta and the Podesta Group are now the subjects of a federal investigation being led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller,...violated the Foreign Agents Registration Act, known as FARA."
Mueller now investigating Democratic lobbyist Tony Podesta
Russian spies influencing the Obama/Clinton administration via bribes.
e. Bill's wife stole the nomination from Bernie Sander.s
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I do not know what another person's interpretation or their precepts when they make such a statement like godsandmen made; so I asked for clarification.
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Bernie’s a Democrat? Are you sure?
Cuz the last I heard, he said he wouldn’t raise money for Democrats and he wouldn’t support Democratic candidates. Yet we were supposed to vote for him.
That’s as ridiculous as voting for Trump and expecting good healthcare and higher taxes on the rich. No one seriously believes he will help his base. Not even his base.
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Trump Taking what Obama left as own was like when Obama said he would take down Bin Laden no matter where Bin Laden was and the GOP mocked him and called him inexperienced and naive. And then, when Obama did, Republicans tried to take credit for what they previously mocked.
So, so typical.
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Trump had nothing to do with this.
"Bernie’s a Democrat? Are you sure?"
1.
Bernie Sanders presidential campaign, 2016
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bernie Sanders for President
Campaign U.S. presidential election, 2016
Candidate Bernie Sanders
- U.S. Senator from Vermont
(2007–present)
(previously served as an Independent in Senate)
Status Announced: April 30, 2015
Formal launch: May 26, 2015
Endorsed Hillary Clinton: July 12, 2016[1]
Lost Nomination: July 26, 2016
Headquarters 131 Church Street, Suite 300
Burlington, Vermont
Key people
- Jeff Weaver (campaign manager)[2]
- Tad Devine (senior campaign strategist)[3]
- Symone D. Sanders[5] (press secretary)[6]
- The 2016 presidential campaign of Bernie Sanders, the junior United States Senator and former Representative from Vermont, began with an informal announcement on April 30, 2015,[8][9] and a formal announcement that he planned to seek the Democratic Party's nomination for President of the United States on May 26, 2015, in Burlington, Vermont. Sanders had been considered a potential candidate for president since at least September 2014.[10] Though he had previously run as an independent, he routinely caucused with the Democratic Party, as many of his views align with Democrats.[11] Bernie Sanders presidential campaign, 2016 - Wikipedia
a. Once again, no big surprise, but those who favor capitalism or socialism are divided in a partisan way as well. Republicans favor capitalism by an 11-1 margin, while democrats are much more divided on the issue; 39% say they favor capitalism while 30% favor socialism.
Rasmussen Poll Capitalism vs. Socialism 53 Prefer Capitalism Right Pundits
b. The most striking partisan differences come in reactions to the word "socialism." Just 15% of Republicans react positively to "socialism" while 77% react negatively. By more than two-to-one (64% to 26%), independents also have a negative impression of "socialism."
However, Democrats are evenly divided -- 44% have a positive reaction to "socialism" while 43% react negatively
Socialism Not So Negative Capitalism Not So Positive Pew Research Center
c. A 2012 Gallup poll found that 53 percent of Democrats and 39 percent of Americans more generally had a positive reaction to the wordsocialism. Democrats, Republicans Diverge on Capitalism, Federal Gov't
And, btw......difference between 'socialist' and 'communist' depends, largely, upon what day of the week it is.
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And now for the facts.
In which of Obama's 32 quarters did the economy reach or exceed 3% real GDP growth?
NONE.
Obama is the first President never to have had a year of 3% or better economic growth: "... annual growth during Obama’s “recovery” has never topped 3%. By comparison, it never fell below 3% during the Reagan recovery. And in the nine years following the 1990-91 recession, GDP grew faster than 3% in all but two. Heck, even Jimmy Carter had some strong growth years." President Obama's Growth Gap Hits $1.31 Trillion
a. "The years since 2007 have been a macroeconomic disaster for the United States of a magnitude unprecedented since the Great Depression." Obama: Always Wrong, Never In Doubt
b. ".... first president since Hoover to never have a single year above 3% GDP growth."Obama economy is 'amazing,' says hedge fund billionaire
Trump:
First reading on third-quarter GDP up 3.0%, vs 2.5% rise expected
The U.S. economy unexpectedly maintained a brisk pace of growth in the third quarter as an increase in inventory investment and a smaller trade deficit offset a hurricane-related slowdown in consumer spending and a decline in construction.
Gross domestic product increased at a 3.0 percent annual rate in the July-September period after expanding at a 3.1 percent pace in the second quarter, the Commerce Department said on Friday...
More:
US economy grows 3 percent in the third quarter on inventories, trade
DRUDGE REPORT 2017®
In which of Obama's 32 quarters did the economy reach or exceed 3% real GDP growth?
NONE.
Obama is the first President never to have had a year of 3% or better economic growth: "... annual growth during Obama’s “recovery” has never topped 3%. By comparison, it never fell below 3% during the Reagan recovery. And in the nine years following the 1990-91 recession, GDP grew faster than 3% in all but two. Heck, even Jimmy Carter had some strong growth years." President Obama's Growth Gap Hits $1.31 Trillion
a. "The years since 2007 have been a macroeconomic disaster for the United States of a magnitude unprecedented since the Great Depression." Obama: Always Wrong, Never In Doubt
b. ".... first president since Hoover to never have a single year above 3% GDP growth."Obama economy is 'amazing,' says hedge fund billionaire
Trump:
First reading on third-quarter GDP up 3.0%, vs 2.5% rise expected
The U.S. economy unexpectedly maintained a brisk pace of growth in the third quarter as an increase in inventory investment and a smaller trade deficit offset a hurricane-related slowdown in consumer spending and a decline in construction.
Gross domestic product increased at a 3.0 percent annual rate in the July-September period after expanding at a 3.1 percent pace in the second quarter, the Commerce Department said on Friday...
More:
US economy grows 3 percent in the third quarter on inventories, trade
DRUDGE REPORT 2017®
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White nationalism is the direct result of black nationalism. Since the goal of black nationalism seems to be putting down whites what does anyone expect the response to be?
How much is expected to be ignored by whites?
Affirmative action?
The black crime rate?
The congressional black caucus?
The NAACP?
BLM?
Kneeing at sports events protesting something Trump said?
The United Negro college fund?
The New Black Panthers?
All this from 13 percent of the population.
How much is expected to be ignored by whites?
Affirmative action?
The black crime rate?
The congressional black caucus?
The NAACP?
BLM?
Kneeing at sports events protesting something Trump said?
The United Negro college fund?
The New Black Panthers?
All this from 13 percent of the population.
An Open Letter to Liberty University to ‘Engage in Peaceful Debate’ – Red Letter Christians
It begins:
Dear Jerry Falwell, Jr.,
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Christian Writer Banned From Liberty University Campus After Criticizing Trump Ally
An evangelical Christian writer and pastor says he's been banned from the Liberty University campus for criticizing President Jerry Falwell, Jr., a longtime ally of President Donald Trump.
The writer, Jonathan Martin, said in a Twitter thread that he was on the campus of Liberty, a private Christian college in Lynchburg, Va., Monday night for a concert by the duo Johnnyswim when he was escorted away by armed campus police.
Martin, who describes himself as an evangelical, said he believes Falwell is "uniquely complicit" in aligning evangelical Christianity with ideologies like white nationalism through his support for Trump and Bannon. He said he was particularly distressed by Trump's equivocal response to the recent violence in Charlottesville, Va., during a neo-Nazi rally.
"It often feels to me like a whole new religion," he said. "... It seems like with Falwell there's no boundaries."
Falwell was one of the first prominent evangelical leaders to support Trump's candidacy during the 2016 Republican primary. He's urged evangelicals to look beyond Trump's history of multiple marriages and vulgar language – including a 2005 recording where he brags about touching women's genitals without consent. In an interview with NPR in May, Falwell said no leader is without flaws.
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Must be pretty awful for followers of Jesus to have their religion taken over and turned into a political tool for wealthy white supremacists.
In a way, it's probably how many Muslims feel when Isis perverts Islam.
Extreme right wing Muslims kill people.
Extreme right wing Christians only want to. How do we know? They tell us. You can watch their sermons on Youtube. Sermons of hate and death and torture.
Here are just a few:
Pastor Roger Jimenez
Pastor Steven Anderson
Pastor Kevin Swanson
Pastor Jesse Price
Pastor Charles L. Worley
Pastor Bert Farias
Pastor Jeffrey S. Smith
Pastor Curtis Napp
Pastor James David Manning
Pastor Jim Beech
You might be the most dishonest member of USMB liberal posters and with losers like Rightwinger and Lakota, that is saying a lot.
This guy was banned, justifiably, because of this outrageous delusional views and slander.
He is trying to equate Evangelical Christianity to white supremacy. This is despite the fact Evangelical Christianity is fast growing religion in Latin America and is spreading quickly in Africa. Evangelicals are some of the best, kindest, charitable and tolerant people on the planet. The mirror opposite of the death cult known as Islam.
This scumbag should be banned.
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dean, you've shown us long ago that your links aren't worth the paper they are printed on.
Would 'White Supremacists' allow that many blacks to attend their school?
The criticism, of course, is that Falwell's actions are allowing evangelicals as a bloc to be undermined and subverted into aligning with a lot of nasty alt right ideology. In other words, they become legion for a lot of ideas they do not and should not support. Your chart kind of supports that point.
Also, I'm sure Falwell is happy to take your money, no matter what type of person you are. He has pretty much made a career of that.
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"White nationalism is the direct result of black nationalism. "
This is easily the dumbest, most intellectually vile thing i will read today. All of you other wingnut idiots can stop trying now, because you are not going to top this.
1. I know that you Leftists love to toss around 'Nazis' at your opponents....but, for clarity....Nazis were Leftists.....National Socialist Worker's Party....
. ... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?"
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian
2. They were collectivists, as you are, and espoused every Liberal welfare policy that you Liberals do...
The Nationalsozialistische Volkswohlfahrt (NSV), meaning "National Socialist People's Welfare", was a social welfare organization during the Third Reich. The NSV was established in 1933,.... The NSV became established as the single Nazi Party welfare organ in May 1933.[1] .... the programme was massively expanded, so that the régime deemed it worthy to be called the "greatest social institution in the world." One method of expansion was to absorb, or in NSDAP parlance coordinate, already existing but non-Nazi charity organizations. NSV was the second largest Nazi group organization by 1939, second only to the German Labor Front.
The National Socialists provided a plethora of social welfare programs under the Nazi concept of Volksgemeinschaft which promoted the collectivity of a “people’s community” where citizens would sacrifice themselves for the greater good. The NSV operated “8,000 day-nurseries” by 1939, and funded holiday homes for mothers, distributed additional food for large families, and was involved with a “wide variety of other facilities.”[4]
The Nazi social welfare provisions included old age insurance, rent supplements, unemployment and disability benefits, old-age homes, interest-free loans for married couples, along with healthcare insurance, which was not decreed mandatory until 1941[5] One of the NSV branches, the Office of Institutional and Special Welfare, was responsible “for travellers’ aid at railway stations; relief for ex-convicts; ‘support’ for re-migrants from abroad; assistance for the physically disabled, hard-of-hearing, deaf, mute, and blind; relief for the elderly, homeless and alcoholics; and the fight against illicit drugs and epidemics.”
These social welfare programs represented a Hitlerian endeavor to lift the community above the individual while promoting the wellbeing of all bona fide citizens. As Hitler told a reporter in 1934, he was determined to give Germans “the highest possible standard of living.” National Socialist People's Welfare - Wikipedia
3. They singled out particular groups to be impaled on immoral laws and statutes
. "DISCRIMINATION AGAINST WHITE PEOPLE: IT'S REAL
As real as the discrimination against black people was under segregation."
...only one racial group in America is subject to a system of codes, regulations and laws discriminating against members of its race when it comes to employment and education.
Affirmative action is an inescapably real and racist as segregated water fountains.
Affirmative action is racial discrimination, not as a matter of opinion, but as a hard objective fact. Racial preferences reward and punish people based on their race. These preferences, no matter how they are disguised, pervade not just one region, the way that segregation did, but much of the country. Diversity is a mandate on campuses and in corporations across the country. And it’s the very definition of racism.
Defenders of affirmative action claim that such measures are necessary. And we can have that debate. But it’s really a debate defending racial discrimination by the government, by the educational system and by many of the country’s biggest corporations. And so before we have that debate, we should clarify that we are debating whether racial discrimination is sometimes justified.
And the side arguing for racial discrimination should not be allowed to legitimize its racism through weasel words like “reverse racism”. Racism is racism. No matter who the perpetrators and victims are." Discrimination Against White People: It's Real
4. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism.
“Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.”
This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin, ...."
Progressive Support for Italian and German Fascism - Discover the Networks
5. QED.....the only comparison with the Nazis is with the Left, not the Right.
Any questions?
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This poster is exactly what Coulter was mocking when she wrote:
"Thrilled with their role as ‘white friend-of-the-blacks,’ many found that they could actually make a living at it! The part requires sneering at nonexistent racists, and memorizing one line:
“Goddam it, this may cost me my career but I’m going to speak up for racial equality and let the chips fall where they may!”
I still get a kick out of these chest-thumpers.
Let's remember, when fighting for racial equality was important, the Democrats were on the wrong side.
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Wow, what a hair trigger you have.
Triggered much?
Only an intellectually lacking hack doesn't realize what I am saying. Do you disagree that the rise of white nationalism is a result of the threat perceived or otherwise by the rise of black nationalism? Is it just the terms used that bother you so much? Someone who is not intellectually challenged will realize that admitting the truth and agreeing with that truth are way two different things.
Interesting though, you have no problem with condemning white nationalism but when applied to black nationalism that triggers you, interesting indeed.
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I realize what you are saying. It is not complicated. And it is purely idiotic. "Black nationalism"? Made up bullshit. White Nationalism? Been around since your ancestor bought a slave. You argument is embarrassingly idiotic, and pretending it is some how too "high brow" for anyone with an IQ above 7 is the height of delusion.
"Triggered"...is that what you have been telling yourself your entire life, as you get scorned and laughed out of the room for the idiotic shit you say? It is, of course. That's why a guy like you has to retreat to the safety of an anonymous message board to vomit your embarrassing bullshit.
Here's some free advice: The programs for minorities that you whine like a little ***** about exist BECAUSE OF YOU. You really need to get that through your head. The next time you feel like assigning blame for the existence of these programs, find a mirror.
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